Special Aircraft Service
the SAS Hangar => The Lounge => Topic started by: SAS~Storebror on September 01, 2015, 08:31:58 AM
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"Rules" of the Quest:
- Only airplane or airplane parts pics please.
- The "winner" is the one who solves a quest first.
- The winner has the right to continue the quest.
- If the winner doesn't want to continue, he can declare an "open round" so anyone who feels like can continue with the next quest.
First come first serve. - If the winner doesn't continue the quest within 24 hours, it's "open round" automatically.
Hi folks,
Try it: What type of aircraft is this? (Click for full size image)
(http://s7.postimg.cc/dkkl25wmz/IMG_1803.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/jxop6gm0l/full/)
Best regards - Mike
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Yak-11 ?
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Despite a few odd modifications, doesn't the Yak-11 have a 2-blade prop?
No, that's no moose.
Best regards - Mike
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Yak-9R?
I dunno. :-X
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OH GOD YES!! It COULD be a LA-7 OR 5!! How'd I forget that one?? ???
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Yakovlev YAK-3U
Hersteller: OKB Yakovlev - Besatzung: 2 Pilot - Triebwerk: Schwezow ASch-21 - Art: 7-Zylinder-Sternmotor - Leistung: 700 PS Startleistung bei 2300 U/min - Geschwindigkeit: 380 Km/h max. - Landegeschwindigkeit: 127 Km/h - Steigleistung: 9 m/sec. - Gipfelhöhe: 7.980 m - Reichweite: 800 bis 1.000 Km je nach Beladung - Aktionsradius: 500 Km - Startstrecke: 395 m - Landestrecke: 500 m - Spannweite: 9,40 m - Länge: 8,50 m - Höhe: 3,28 m - Tragfläche: 15,40 m² - Leermasse: 1.960 Kg - Startmasse: 2.440 Kg - Kraftstoff: 230 Kg - Bewaffnung: 1 MG UBS (12,7 mm), 250 Kg Bomben
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Hersteller: OKB Yakovlev - Besatzung: 2 Pilot - Triebwerk: Schwezow ASch-21 - Art: 7-Zylinder-Sternmotor - Leistung: 700 PS Startleistung bei 2300 U/min - Geschwindigkeit: 380 Km/h max. - Landegeschwindigkeit: 127 Km/h - Steigleistung: 9 m/sec. - Gipfelhöhe: 7.980 m - Reichweite: 800 bis 1.000 Km je nach Beladung - Aktionsradius: 500 Km - Startstrecke: 395 m - Landestrecke: 500 m - Spannweite: 9,40 m - Länge: 8,50 m - Höhe: 3,28 m - Tragfläche: 15,40 m² - Leermasse: 1.960 Kg - Startmasse: 2.440 Kg - Kraftstoff: 230 Kg - Bewaffnung: 1 MG UBS (12,7 mm), 250 Kg Bomben
That's the Yak-3UTI and that's wrong.
Best regards - Mike
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That's the Yak-3UTI and that's wrong.
:D :D :D :D
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That's the Yak-3UTI and that's wrong.
:D :D :D :D
Nothing to laugh about, no kidding, it's not the Yak-3UTI.
Yak-9R?
No.
LA-7 OR 5!!
What now? 7 or 5?
Otherwise your bet could as well be "it's a russian aircraft" :D
Best regards - Mike
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LA-5 i think
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Yak-3UA Replica with a P&W R-1830 Radial, hence the Hamilton Standard prop, you don't see those often on original soviet warplanes :P
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Jak-3U.jpg?download)
You beat me to it FMJ ;)
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Yak-3UA Replica with a P&W R-1830 Radial, hence the Hamilton Standard prop, you don't see those often on original soviet warplanes :P
Absolutely right and thanks for the picture.
It's called "Yak-3UPW" and indeed is a Yak-3U repowered by an R-1830 radial engine.
Well done.
Next quest, what's this? (Precise answer please, click to enlarge):
(http://s3.postimg.cc/62z5q1t5v/IMG_1793.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/kv0wmlyv5/full/)
Best regards - Mike
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what we see here is a Turbojet engine, what we are looking at here is the first stage compressor, do note the stator vanes in between the rotor vanes, and also evident by the damage to the rotor blades, it might have suffered from FOD damage in the way of sand, small rocks or dust, OR its and old engine and thats the Alluminium corroding, what make it is however, i do not know, too little to go by
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I think even Sherlock would struggle with this one......any chance of another clue??
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any chance of another clue??
Not yet.
Thom already tried to get close to it, that's a good way.
It is possible to rule out a couple of engine types by taking a close look on this one, that should get you closer.
Best regards - Mike
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Rolls Royce Spey possibly
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a good shot but i don't think thats it, the intake guide vanes on the Spey are ofset on the central hub:
(http://i.imgur.com/qNeWNtI.jpg)
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The Spey is pretty close, albeit not correct.
Actually the engine in question exists in different versions, the more common ones have offset stator vanes on first stage as well. They (the offset vanes) had been developed during the lifetime of the engine in question and became a registered patent of the manufacturer.
I must admit that the quest is hard.
If there's no one guessing the right type, I'll give another hint later today.
Best regards - Mike
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i'm starting to suspect an RR Avon actually
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RR Olympus?
No, take a closer look at Olympus LP compressors and you will see they differ by dimensions.
i'm starting to suspect an RR Avon actually
No, same thing: Very different first stage actors.
Time for some hint.
Same engine, different part (no larger size available):
(http://s1.postimg.cc/h4y2wtqin/IMG_1795_part.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Rolls Royce Conway??
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aye, we have a winner!
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Rolls_Royce_Conway_Mk_508_used_in_Boeing_707-420_at_Flugausstellung_Hermeskeil.JPG)
this is the very same engine
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Bingo! Well done Ont_R!
Here is another, more prominent view of the same stunning early jet engine (click for full size):
(http://s14.postimg.cc/kqzgnjcld/IMG_1797.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/6zdtwo3uj/full/)
Time for the next quest, this time it shall be a little easier.
Guess the plane (click for full size):
(http://s1.postimg.cc/5egxntn5r/IMG_1773.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/tra177fb9/full/)
Best regards - Mike
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that engine is a P&W J75 isn't it?
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Nope, it's still the same Conway from behind, mounted on a Lufthansa 707-430, S/N 17720.
Best regards - Mike
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I see. That was too easy.
A little bit harder. Guess this one:
(http://s10.postimg.cc/n961k0ua1/vlcsnap_2015_09_02_14h05m19s95.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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that must be a gas-turbine engine, evident by the centrifugal compressor, i think the 3-pronged inlet guide vane is also a characteristic feature of this engine, but again, this one is a mystery to me
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this one is a mystery to me
That gives me a few more hours to find the next quest image.
Nevertheless, this one is famous :D
Best regards - Mike
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I would think that from the internal shape it is either British or German designed.
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I want to say that it's British, but I have a sneaking suspicion it's not.
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Mike, could it be a Heinkle HeS 8?
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Ohain_USAF_He_S-8A_page68.jpg/300px-Ohain_USAF_He_S-8A_page68.jpg)
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close but no cigar, i think its a HeS 3B turbojet
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No, the HeS 3B has the wrong intake as well as the first stage portion of the compressor
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I'm pretty sure the forward inner duct is also a bit bigger and the first set of blades is not the consistent number. (I.e. 14)
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i think its a HeS 3B turbojet
The cigar goes to Thom, congratulations!
Next quest. Guess the aircraft (click for full size):
(http://s2.postimg.cc/8d19lq395/IMG_0705.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/4sxmuvt3v/full/)
Best regards - Mike
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Hawker Hunter
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I see, you know your business ;)
Well done Ont_R, it's indeed the Hawker Hunter T.8C "N-321" (click for full size):
(http://s4.postimg.cc/xc492edi5/IMG_0699.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/wzf0rdktf/full/)
Next quest, click for full size as always:
(http://s10.postimg.cc/5xs8zus8p/IMG_0722.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Best regards - Mike
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Thanks Mike. ;D
I actually came across a lot of pics of the Hawker Hunter. When I was looking up reference pics for the Hawker Sea hawk.
That is a nice pic of the Hunter by the way and I'm stumped as to what your next challenge could be. ;)
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Dornier Do 24 ?
... restored and re-engined...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Dornier_Do_24_ATT_vl_2.jpg)
......... and in the background of the Hunter pic ..... :-[
G;
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Correct, congratulations Glynn!
It's the Iren Dornier Do-24ATT (http://www.do-24.com/index.php?home):
(http://s11.postimg.cc/6b5vlrz4z/IMG_0758.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/dlguolaqz/full/)
Looks like the quests are too easy 8)
Next quest...
(http://s21.postimg.cc/486xuw6fb/IMG_0759.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Too hard to find?
Maybe if you see more of it...
The quest still is "guess the aircraft type", click for full size:
(http://s7.postimg.cc/mowkxg4cr/IMG_0759_2.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/r9otbedrr/full/)
Best regards - Mike
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E-3A or F sentry??
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7336/8725520677_5d361ac473_k.jpg)
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yes! i knew it was some sort of missile/radar warning equipment
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Don't lie Thom. I know for a fact that you were overly convinced it was some sort of heli. We had this same conversation this morning.
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hope you don't mind... But let them try this one :
I'm glad if others carry on the quest, that's very welcome.
I even know what you depicted there, but in order not to spoil the fun, I'll tell you by PM :D
Best regards - Mike
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Hmmmm, if this is a quest, perhaps the question should be 'European or African swallow?!?' :) :)
(http://i0.wp.com/moviemezzanine.com/wp-content/uploads/troll-bridge.jpg?fit=1050%2C9999)
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Zachtan... your proposal is a Northrop F-5E Tiger, no ?
And I like the idea of a quizz ! You give the right answer ? you ask the next question !
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So... do I do the next proposal, or is my answer considered as wrong ?
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Usual rule in most of the quizz I know...
OK. Something older, if you want.
In which plane is this man :
(http://s24.postimg.cc/3pubyuvid/9846_Enigme78.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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Is it a B-25 Mitchell as viewed from inside?
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No. Wrong plane... and wrong nationality too (this one is to help you...) !
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Looks a little like one of the half-open german top gunner stations, he-111 or fw-200.
If I would have to guess I'd say Fw-200, since the fuselage isn't as round shaped as it should be on a He-111.
Best regards - Mike
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Not German. So... no He-111 or FW-200 !
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God damn :D if it isn't Amiot 143!!!
(http://www.umt.fme.vutbr.cz/~ruja/modely/podklady/Amiot/Amiot143M/amiot-143m-guns.jpg)
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Not French too so... not Amiot !
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SM.79 top gunner?
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Not SM-79, but you come in the right nationality !
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.... maybe SM 81?
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Not a SM...
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.......Ba88 M2 ? ???
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Z.506 top gunner?
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Not a Breda.
Not a Z.506. But... same company !
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CANT Z.1007 bis
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And... we have a winner ! It is the Alcione !
Your turn, Blaubaer !
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Here you are. May be not too difficult:
(http://www.team-kehr.de/link_dateien/plane0.jpg)
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Me-109 with a Jumo OR a Me-209
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Plain to see, that's a Spitfire modified with a few captured german parts, like fuselage, wings, engine, tail section...
Best regards - Mike
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Descriptions don't count. Tell us the denotation. - No modded Spitfire.
Edit: No Avia.
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Avia S-99?
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Bf-109H-3
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Bf-109H-3
Not too bad, but ...
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Okay, Bf 109H-2.
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Okay, Bf 109H-2.
That's it! The armament made the difference.
Your turn again, Mike.
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Okay, something difficult again.
Guess the loadout:
(http://s27.postimg.cc/hi5t5ztar/IMG_0616.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Thats a big-un, and on a militarised mini/midi-business jet too, size wise I'd say its some sort of anti-material/ground munition, 'Brimstone' ?
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No, not quite.
Maybe it's easier to guess the plane type first, at least you've been on a good way there.
Best regards - Mike
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anti-tank/anti-bunker munitions maybe? or a rocket propelled canoo? :P
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Is it the FR aviation Dassault Falcon??
(http://img1.jetphotos.net:8080/img/1/1/1/0/21641_1043671011.jpg)
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anti-tank/anti-bunker munitions maybe? or a rocket propelled canoo? :P
A rocket propelled what? No.
It's not the FR aviation Falcon 20 either, but that's already a good way to fully solving the quest.
Best regards - Mike
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I reckon its some sort of threat simulation/countermeasures pod. We used to see the FR Falcon over our way a lot......until they closed the local airbase (Leuchars).
The only other threat simulation aircraft I can think of is the L3 Learjet:
(http://www2.l-3com.com/fi/images/lear_stores_4_level_cropped_sm.jpg)
So possibly an ALQ-170 missile threat simulator??
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Learjet fits, even though it's not from L3.
Now the loadout... ALQ-170 is wrong.
Best regards - Mike
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Learjet 35 with laser hygrometer
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Learjet 35 is right (to be precise, it's a 35A), laser hygrometer is wrong.
Quest partially solved ;)
Best regards - Mike
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RM30A Towable target system with a TDK39A1 air-to-air gunnery target
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No sorry, neither RM30A (looks completely different) nor TDK39A1 (similar look, but different thing).
Best regards - Mike
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*bump*
Since nobody developed an idea for the loadout yet, let's try it with the full plane revealed.
This should make things much easier.
The quest still is: What's hanging there underneath the left wing?
(http://s17.postimg.cc/mpqca44pr/IMG_0616_large.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/ktxhnlewh/full/)
Best regards - Mike
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A big ass rocket... Jokes aside it looks like a Tiny Tim... Don't hate, I mean it's what I saw on IL-2 :'(
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Rocket powered torpedo?
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Laser Target Designator with ECM pod for training FAC's Possibly at JAWTEX 2014
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No Tiny Tim, no Torpedo, no LTD, no ECM, I'm sorry.
One more hint: Ont_R, your latest guess from September 8 was already aiming in the right direction.
Best regards - Mike
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Do-SK6 Forward Scattering Spectrometer Probe (FSSP), up- and downward looking radiation sensors, and a LAser Backscatter Sonde (LABS)
(http://s18.postimg.cc/m5o4lycux/airtoss_dosk6_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
(http://s18.postimg.cc/hxtcd7bfd/airtoss_proposal.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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Unguided Rocket, I think.
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Do-SK6
We have a winner.
Congratulations Ont_R, your turn ;)
Best regards - Mike
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Thanks Mike ;D
Alrighty This may be too easy but name the aircraft this belongs to.
(http://s29.postimg.cc/ggxhe6tyf/Untitled_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/b5ikth7vn/full/)
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Hm... canadian, right?
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Early Neptun ??
Cheers
Doc
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If it's canadian, it could be a Canuck.
Best regards - Mike
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You are correct Mike. It is in fact the CF-100 Canuck. ;D
(http://s22.postimg.cc/83u4poab5/12971621473_597a4f80e9_b.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/mn19r33fx/full/)
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Okay guys, something easy for the casual quest friend.
Guess the plane type, click for full size:
(http://s17.postimg.cc/j4covqqsf/IMG_0606.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/nr9ddpjmp/full/)
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Ehh.. Something with a Turbo Prop Engine on both wings, I'm not sure what it is but maybe a Embraer 120 Brasilia..?
Something near or along those lines?
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No Embraer.
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Rear Exhaust From the Turboprop Plane.
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the Turboprop Plane
Ah, asking for the "plane type" was a little misleading. When asking for a "type", I meant something like "F-18" rather than "Jet".
Best regards - Mike
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A Canadair 215T/415?
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No, not quite.
Hint: The aircraft in question has been as a "side dish" on an image of this quest thread, not so long ago...
Best regards - Mike
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haha now I got it.
P-3 Orion/CP-140 Aurora!
https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7782/18002777828_2344e11399_b.jpg (https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7782/18002777828_2344e11399_b.jpg)
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And we have a winner :)
Congratulations HotelAlpha.
It's in fact the Lockheed P-3C Orion 60+01 "Friedrichshafen", German Navy MFG 3 "Graf Zeppelin", depicted in the background of my previous quest pic here:
(http://s17.postimg.cc/mpqca44pr/IMG_0616_large.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/ktxhnlewh/full/)
Your turn ;)
Best regards - Mike
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Thank you Storebror (and good detail too!)
Here is mine, a bit difficult...... no hints for now, let's see what people come up with. ;D
Here go...
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/hotelalpha200/1cf32f63-0e35-48d8-a1eb-2b5185190175_zpswg8rob86.jpg) (http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/hotelalpha200/media/1cf32f63-0e35-48d8-a1eb-2b5185190175_zpswg8rob86.jpg.html)
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That looks similar to the common british jet intakes inside a wing's leading edge, like they did it in the 50s.
Can't find a matching aircraft though...
Best regards - Mike
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a DH Comet perhaps?
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Nope, not a jet..... and it is not British.
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Convair B-36 ?
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Not a Convair.
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Hm... let me ask you this first:
Are we searching for an aircraft at all?
Best regards - Mike
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Hm... let me ask you this first:
Are we searching for an aircraft at all?
Best regards - Mike
Yep it is definitely an aircraft. The picture is of an american one.... hint.... ;)
The specific aircraft in the photo is in the game, and it fought in WW2 as well.
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my guess is a P61 Black Widow
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radiator intake of a corsair?
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my guess is a P61 Black Widow
Nope, the "mystery plane" has 2 engines but it is not a Black Widow.
radiator intake of a corsair?
Yep it is an intake but for a twin engine prop aircraft
As a matter of fact, the P61 and F4U have the same engine as the mystery plane.
I'll give a hint: The plane in question was a strike aircraft that fought later after WWII in Korea and Vietnam :)
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Douglas A26 :)
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Douglas A26 :)
I knew the Korea and Vietnam detail was good enough... way to go CirX! Lucky guess!
Here is the original photo, my grandfather (Spanish Air Force radio/navigator) took a photo of one of his friends in front of a (captured?) Invader at (presumably) Torrejón Air Base outside of Madrid, Spain. Obviously the resolution is not great but it can be made out as an invader... Does anybody know what that Invader was doing in Spain? Obviously it came from the USAAF; maybe captured from WWII when it maybe landed on Spanish territory in southern Spain or Morocco?
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/hotelalpha200/_DSC1576%20copy%202_zpsia9srzud.jpg) (http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/hotelalpha200/media/_DSC1576%20copy%202_zpsia9srzud.jpg.html)
Your turn CirX ;D
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Wow, great photo and story, thank you for sharing it. I knew it was either the Tigercat, the black widow or the 26, since they are the only ones I know of on the allied side that had leading edge intakes that were shaped and enlarged. The Tigercat ones were too oval, but I was pretty sold on the Widow, although I could not figure out what angle they took the picture from. Your clue about the engines settled it :)
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Oh, I only saw the korea clue now....damn, :D Could have gotten there 3 seconds faster.
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Oh, I only saw the korea clue now....damn, :D Could have gotten there 3 seconds faster.
I intended that clue as a dead giveaway lol!
Apparently (after some investigation), the Invader in the picture may very well be the one in this photo!
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/hotelalpha200/Douglas%20A26%20B%20en%20Traba%20Galicia%2022-10-44_zpsb9x00xbj.jpg) (http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/hotelalpha200/media/Douglas%20A26%20B%20en%20Traba%20Galicia%2022-10-44_zpsb9x00xbj.jpg.html)
"On October 22, 1944, the aircraft Douglas A-26B-15-DT Invader (43-22342), piloted by Eugene L. Casale and John Jr. as the only crew member Hurek, returned to their base in England after a trip to Morocco, when the aircraft began to have problems; around half past eleven (am) the Invader flew and rolled over several times to try to land at Laxe beach but seeing that it was impossible to change course and headed to the Traba´s beach where they landed on it´s belly. Quickly began to reach people and two crew members refused to descend until the authorities had arrived; then they burned all documentation (it is clear that the Americans did not trust the Spanish authorities knew that these documents come to the Germans). Later the aircraft was dismantled, leaving only the structure was then scrapped and taken to Santiago."
But the picture was taken in the mid 1950's.... had 10 years really passed since its accident on the beach? Did it take that long to get it scrapped or was it in the process of dismantling in the photo (missing prop as evidence)? Maybe the photo was taken at Santiago? Who knows.
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So OK, give me a sec, I have a wicked one for you :)
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here we go:
(http://cerakote.co.za/remoteimages/sas/mysterycirx.jpg)
no clues for now. If there in an expert out there they should get this immediately.
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Oh yes, to clarify, this is a plane.
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Ok... hmmm... Looks like a bomber type from the 1930's.... probably two engined. Based on that nose turret and cockpit, maybe a Potez 540?
If not a DB3/Il-4
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neither :)
Clue 1: (beware, it is misleading!) This type flew for the allies and also the axis, from the beginning of the war until 1944.
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Amiot 143? It is definitely a french aircraft you speak of...
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yes! Amiot 143!
(http://cerakote.co.za/remoteimages/sas/amiot_143.jpeg)
Well done!
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it was simple after narrowing it down to a french bomber with a nose turret that wasn't the 540 :D
Here's my go, it is far easier and this time the pic is of decent quality....
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/hotelalpha200/1752be42-5512-4224-86a7-f7ea0dc6b7fc_zpsgie39enn.jpg) (http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/hotelalpha200/media/1752be42-5512-4224-86a7-f7ea0dc6b7fc_zpsgie39enn.jpg.html)
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Ooooooooooooh... the picture is too small for my poor eyes...
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A bigger picture of the same plane
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/hotelalpha200/d405d924-01fb-45d0-8d6a-84b35dbf0802_zpszltgaagi.jpg) (http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/hotelalpha200/media/d405d924-01fb-45d0-8d6a-84b35dbf0802_zpszltgaagi.jpg.html)
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I know Something, Its a Avro 679 Manchester
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Avro_Manchester_ExCC.jpg)
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Close but no cigar.
Looks very much like an Avro Lincoln to me.
Best regards - Mike
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Lancaster then, But I got Confused.
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lancaster without a nose turret, modified to carry the grand slam bomb
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Whitley?
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Short Stirling
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Ju-86
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Armstrong-Witworth Albermarle ?
British ?
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All so far have been wrong, it is not British but it is a bomber. Also not a Ju 86...
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Piaggio P.108B, probably Serie II with "dolphin nose" (front turrett removed)...
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Piaggio P.108B, probably Serie II with "dolphin nose" (front turrett removed)...
Very good! It is a P.108B indeed! 8) The photo was taken in Murcia in 1946.
Here is the original photo:
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/hotelalpha200/avc_00009319%201_zpshumm7xpv.jpg) (http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/hotelalpha200/media/avc_00009319%201_zpshumm7xpv.jpg.html)
"The Italian bomber Piaggio P.108B military registration MM22005 of Regia Aeronautica’s 274th Squadriglia BGR (Bombardamento Grande Raggio/Long Range Bombardment) landed on Los Alcazares airfield, Murcia, Spain, on 28 June 1942 during the first night mission against Gibraltar. Slightly damaged during the night landing, the plane was interned. After the repair was transferred at San Javier and tested by the Spanish Air Force. Finished the test, the plane was stored at San Javier until the war’s end when was scrapped. In the photo this P.108B is in San Javier with two Spanish servicemen. In the same attack, carried out by five P.108B took off from Decimomannu, Sardinia, other two P.108B landed in Spain, all for engine troubles and excessive fuel consumption during the return. The aircraft MM22001, crashed while attempting a forced landing on a beach in Valencia and was heavily damaged. The other (MM.22007) landed in Majorca and thanks to the Spanish pro-Axis policy was refueled and cleared to took off from Palma de Majorca for Decimomannu. Victor Sierra"
from: http://www.ww2incolor.com/italian-forces/P108-INTERNED-SPAIN.html (http://www.ww2incolor.com/italian-forces/P108-INTERNED-SPAIN.html)
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If Spitwulf doesn't want to continue, I take the liberty to do so.
Guess the aircraft:
(http://s15.postimg.cc/ma1fg6zsr/Quest_15_09_20.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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BAC TSR 2
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Correct, your turn :)
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Thanks Mike ;D
Name this plane :D
(http://s21.postimg.cc/733t8y4xj/Quest.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/y0xqaopkj/full/)
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I name her "Sarah" :D
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Close. "Sarah" is her twin sister. Try again :D
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Eric. ?
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If Spitwulf doesn't want to continue, I take the liberty to do so.
Sorry Sorebror :-[
Ok, it's my turn...
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/f9e2/utpxxjl9l984urt6g.jpg)
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Macchi MC-200
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Close, but no cigar :P
Let me try to solve it, and if I see it right, to solve the quest this time it's required to guess both aircraft since we have two quests running in parallel.
First one: Sarah's Twin Sister could be a Buhl CA-6 Air Sedan.
The alleged MC.200 should in fact be a Caproni-Vizzola F.5.
Best regards - Mike
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Looks like we're down to the one quest now. 8)
"Sarah's" twin Sister is indeed a Buhl CA-6 Air Sedan. Nicely done Mike. ;)
Cheers,
Ont_R
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If Spitwulf doesn't want to continue, I take the liberty to do so.
Sorry Sorebror :-[
Ok, it's my turn...
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/f9e2/utpxxjl9l984urt6g.jpg)
Caproni-Vizzola F. 5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caproni_Vizzola_F.5
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Correct Storebror and Dataman! :D
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May I give one?
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Try this one out for size?
Only the diehard aviation geeks will know this one by heart.
(http://www.edwards.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/061026-F-1234S-001.jpg)
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XB-51
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CORRECT!!!! But how did you guess correctly so fast?
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I had a model of it when I was a wee lad. ;D
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One of my favourite cold war aircraft, thanks James for making a quest of it.
This one is absolutely mean!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QISo7sIPZzw
Best regards - Mike
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Looks like it's time for another quest?
(http://s11.postimg.cc/a9lmoaco3/Quest_15_09_26.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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The "gutless" F7U Cutlass.
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Correct, your turn :)
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No new quest?
So how about this one, guess the aircraft again:
(http://s14.postimg.cc/hw88ucjyp/Quest_15_10_03.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Could that be a Canadair Northstar?
Cheers Dakpilot
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That's right, your turn :)
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This very easy, but limited with time now
(http://s16.postimg.cc/ty5qr0hl1/IMG.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Cheers Dakpilot
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am i mistaken or is that the right wing of a gorgeous Douglas DC-4?
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Certainly is ;)
I was checking the oil leak on No.4 engine 8) pic was taken over Somalia, never got a chance to fly a Merlin engine one like in Storebror's nice pic unfortunately
okay, over to you
Cheers Dakpilot
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lets try a a more unorthodox shape ;)
(http://i.imgur.com/WFmOECZ.jpg)
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(http://cdn.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2009/8/18/58306.jpg)
De haviland Sea vixen vixen
this pic might be better
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/De_Havilland_(later_Hawker_Siddeley)_Sea_Vixen.jpg)
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we have a winner! 8)
your turn mate
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All right this is a easy one
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Warplane/hs126-cowling.jpg)
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Mmmmmh... makes me think about the Henschel Hs-126...
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yes it is
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So I suppose it is my turn...
(http://s9.postimg.cc/bwqqnr3pr/Enigme119.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
What is this plane we are sitting in ?
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F+W C-3603
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What is this plane we are sitting in ?
Mirrored :P
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Right, SAS FMJ. Your turn !
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something a bit harder ;)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ap0fQUX.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Ap0fQUX)
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I'll keep my mouth shut since using google is cheating, but I must admit that bird is somewhat... strange.
Best regards - Mike
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something a bit harder.........to see at all!
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it seems i have killed it, shame that
have an easy one to get this fun game started up again 8)
(http://i.imgur.com/bVscu84.jpg)
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So I'll reveal the previous one first:
something a bit harder ;)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ap0fQUX.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Ap0fQUX)
"D-1" mixed engine (one piston engine, two jet engines) by Alexey Borovkov and Ilya Florentevicha Florova.
(http://s28.postimg.cc/e9dghs7q5/0_15c60e_9a49d40e_orig.jpg)
Good luck to all others with the current quest ;)
Best regards - Mike
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too easy - X-29, Grumman experimental plane, early 80's
@ lol at the previous, harder one - you might as well have posted a pic of a single rivet, lol :D
what's my prize now, again?
oh, i get to do the next puzzle.....
well, i need to wait for confirmation before i do, lol - can't just go ahead and do as i like, after all... ;D
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told you it was easy , Eugene, your turn mate ;) ;D
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okay, this one might be easy for some.....
(http://i.imgur.com/U9rSFPp.jpg)
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Easy, Avro Shackleton
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yep, thought it might be too easy for some of our expertens.... :D
(http://i.imgur.com/SJ2hGEJ.jpg)
indeed, this is a pic of the last active Shackleton in service, based at Ysterplaat AFB, Cape Town.
She has since been decommisioned, so this bird is no longer in the air anywhere in the world. ::(
I hope to one day see her in the IL-2 skies, as she has now officially joined the list of 'forgotten' aircraft. ;) (no offense to the Franken version, but i strongly feel this one deserves a proper model. call me biased, lol.
FMJ, back to you, mate... ;D
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a real ugly one
(http://i.imgur.com/LtvrJ3x.jpg)
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Blackburn B-88.
Next one:
(http://s30.postimg.cc/arcqr2i7l/quest2016020501.jpg)
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TO-2/TV-2 ?
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Congratulations, your turn!
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Okay. So :
(http://s18.postimg.cc/9bxrb6e95/Guess.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
What bird is this ?
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DC 2?
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No. There is a trap...
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Looks like a captured airplane to me, maybe japanese, and the photo has been reversed... Could be a Tachikawa Ki-54 ?
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Mmmmmh... I think we have a winner ! You are perfectly right, Gatrasz ! That's it !
Your turn now...
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This one, as the picture was taken not far away from my birthplace and made me wonder a long time as a kid :
(http://s9.postimg.cc/a1i773tzz/wtf.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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Mmmmmh... looks very much like a Reggiane Re.2000...
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Not exactly but...you're close !
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Maybe a Re 2002? If that is what you mean by close....
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Or maybe MÁVAG Héja I...
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Maybe a Re 2002?
I'd say that's the winner answer (see http://www.ww2incolor.com/german-air-force/RE2002LW.html), your turn HA :)
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Maybe a Re 2002 ?
I'd say that's the winner answer (see http://www.ww2incolor.com/german-air-force/RE2002LW.html), your turn HA :)
That's it ! (Thank you for the link, SAS~Storebror !) More recent pictures can be found of this particular plane, by the way.
(http://s7.postimg.cc/d0770c2uj/re2002.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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Youhou ! HotelAlpha ! We wait for your question !
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Ooops... sorry guys...
Here it is; if you know pre-world war 2 aircraft, you will get it rather quickly...
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/hotelalpha200/2503e96f-d6a1-4c66-804a-be6525685ac2_zpsklifld1e.jpg) (http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/hotelalpha200/media/2503e96f-d6a1-4c66-804a-be6525685ac2_zpsklifld1e.jpg.html)
You are looking at a wing.
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Junkers Ju-52 ?
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Why pre-war?
The Ju-86 was in use way into WWII.
Best regards - Mike
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It IS very Junkers-ish...
My guess is the Ju50
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Even maybe an early Ju-87A...
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Yes Mike, it is a Ju 86. Specifically a Hungarian one. Your go! :)
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/hotelalpha200/fortepan_18994_zpsqb082m2b.jpg) (http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/hotelalpha200/media/fortepan_18994_zpsqb082m2b.jpg.html)
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Nice picture HA, I love the Ju-86, particularly the later high altitude versions are very fascinating, including their engines.
Okay gents, guess this one...
(http://s17.postimg.cc/ihls3nhan/quest_2016_02_27_07.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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s.
Okay gents, guess this one...
-- http://s17.postimg.cc/ihls3nhan/quest_2016_02_27_07.jpg
Best regards - Mike
AH! A WW2 German secret weapon! ;D ... BUT with Soviet Red Stars under the wings!
It is actually the Russian built OKB-1 EF-140 – A Russian built German Junkers EF-131 with 2 RR Nene jet engines
(flown in 1948) it has forward swept wings. It is also known as the LL-3.
History:
The forward swept wings concept was actually first proposed by the Germans during WWII (around 1936).
A first prototype was created and flown in 1944. The designation was the Junkers JU-287, which was basically
created by scraps from other JU planes.
http://aviationweek.com/blog/junkers-ju287-technology-surprise-1945-style
This Ju-287 design was to be a turbo-jet Bomber. The main reason for the forward-swept wings was to provide extra lift
during low speeds, and provide extra wingtip stability at transonic speeds (Mach 0.8 - 1.2).
An improved second prototype was being created, but the Junkers factory was sacked by the Soviet Union.
After the war, The Soviets continued working on the JU-287 and other German aircraft designs, and ended up creating
the "OKB-1 EF 140".
This design transformed into a scout design rather than a bomber. After the first prototype was created, it seems
the entire project was canceled.
http://weaponsandwarfare.com/2015/10/25/okb-1-ef-131/
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That was fast :)
You're absolutely correct Max, thanks for the background information about that plane.
Your turn ;)
Best regards - Mike
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Thanks Storebror.
Ok guys and gals, guess the name of this airplane . . .
(http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/OS/OS-1/2-1.jpg)
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Handley Page H.P.42
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Guess it is the "Tarrant Tabor".
Designed at the end of WWI, by W. G. Tarrant Ltd.
Only one was built, but crashed on its first flight...
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https://youtu.be/Mcnj7M0odwI
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Thanks guys, But What If Project Aircraft, Hutter Hu 324 Bomber,
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Thanks guys, But What If Project Aircraft, Hutter Hu 324 Bomber,
Please stand by gentlemen, our decryption department is working hard on getting the message behind already...
(http://s11.postimg.cc/hwqhkgt4j/bombe.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/b6a0b15yn/full/)
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You Better Hurry up Storebror, My Clock is Ticking,
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There's several ways to get my attraction, trying to scare me away for sure isn't one of them :))
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Whose turn is it?
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Sorry for the delay guys. I was buying a new PC for my father :)
The old man deserves a present for his birthday too.
It is a little bit smaller than what Storebror posted an image of. :D AAAAHAHAHAHAHA
You are correct Oscarito 8)
It is the giant and incredibly terrible Tarrant-Tabor! BRAVO!
(http://palmflying.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Tarrant-Tabor.jpg)
Its your turn dude
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GJE's.
...do I win?
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Times up storebror, you don't know the bomber hu 324
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzyfugu/7357676404/in/photostream/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzyfugu/7357676404/in/photostream/)
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Thanks Max!
Well, let's see then...
What is this "low flying" bird?
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/xxx.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/xxx.jpg.html)
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Caproni Ca.335 Maestrale, aka SABCA S.47.
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D'oh!
Not even a minute... :-[
Yes, that's right!
Your turn mate.
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;D
Ok, my turn now.
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a5fd/19uqqa0e2rnrv5x6g.jpg)
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Caproni Ca.331 Raffica ?
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Caproni Ca.331 Raffica ?
Yes GJE52, it's a Ca.331!
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Caproni_Ca.331_O.A.jpg)
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Ok, this is an easy one......
(http://s21.postimg.cc/e05fobsxz/010316.jpg)
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Fairey Delta I, I suppose... :)
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I'm siding with Spitwulf.
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Yep Fairy Delta 1 it is ... over to you ;)
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It's time for "heavy metal" ;D
(http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag255/Spitwulf84/Il-2%20Screenshoots/4_zpsnctldyss.jpg)
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Mmmmmh... I think it has a common point with the Lancaster : it was a twin-engined plane first, right ?
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No Gaston, sorry... This plane was ab initio a four-engine bomber. :)
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It is Italiano... PIAGGIO P.50
(http://www.giemmesesto.org/Documentazione/Aerei/fotoaerei/p-50/PiaggioP50II_2.jpg)
http://www.giemmesesto.org/Documentazione/Aerei/PIAGGIO_P-50.html
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Piaggio, P.50-II prototype designated MM371 .. the P50 was the twin engine version IIRC right picture but wrong designation ..... ;)
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OK, GJE52 ;D You win !
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... only by splitting hairs though.... I've had my turn Max, you can choose the next one ... :D :D
G;
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Piaggio, P.50-II prototype designated MM371 .. the P50 was the twin engine version IIRC right picture but wrong designation ..... ;)
Yes a P.50-II.
Actually also the P.50-I was a four engine bomber, but in push-pull configuration (two nacelles and four in-line engines). ;)
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/bww2/piaggiop50/piaggiop50-5.jpg)
(http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag255/Spitwulf84/Piaggio_P50_I_zpshar4ujec.jpg)
EDIT: Image added
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So... my mistake !
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Go ahead G , you choose another aircraft next.
I like your style.
Great choice to Spitwulf. Cheers dude. It was interesting to research about this Piaggio *2 thumbs up*
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Ok, if you insist ..... ;)
(http://s21.postimg.cc/82wiaffs7/Guess_Me2.jpg)
G;
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Very small glider... Might be something they built to escape from the fortress prison Colditz.
The "Colditz Cock" (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing014.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
(http://res.cloudinary.com/uktv/image/upload/v1424085217/sfps1rnv2xlptuq7fest.jpg)
Yes, the RAF prisoners built an airplane in secret, inside one of the rooftops, so they could escape
the German guards!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colditz_Cock :D
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LOL .. but sadly no ..... :P
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Looks like a Tailorcraft glider trainer, model H?
Best regards - Mike
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Give that man a cigar ... spot on. :D :D
Yes, it was a converted Taylorcraft Auster, used to train glider pilots by the UK and US .. and dam ugly to boot .... :P
Your turn Mike..
G;
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Thanks for the cigar 8)
Time for a nicer plane:
(http://s10.postimg.cc/kxd7jqzuh/q05.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Gloster Ace?
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;)
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Gloster Ace?
Your cigar (sorry, it's chewed a little already), your turn :)
Best regards - Mike
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Thanks for the cigar! ;D
This is easy ;)
(http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag255/Spitwulf84/MM_zps5rbb1l9x.jpg)
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I.Ae 27 Pulqui ? Argentina - just post war I think ...
G;
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Those four guys put a big pillow inside that airplane nose ! :D
When the engines starts... feathers will be coming out of the rear ! PUFFF!
AAAAAHAAHAHAHAH
Well, the way its painted, it looks like a big pillow.
But yeah, its a Pulpui
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I.Ae 27 Pulqui ? Argentina - just post war I think ...
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Yes a Pulqui GJE52, your turn now (and yes, this plane had a really strange air intake :) )
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(http://s20.postimg.cc/l1ip2m5q5/Guess3.jpg)
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salmson 2?
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Yep, a Salmson 2 A2 .. well spotted. :D
G;
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This seems to have stalled, let's get it back to life.
What plane is shown here?
(http://s32.postimg.cc/uxwe80ppx/2016_05_22_01.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/ea4w5iuy9/full/)
I know it's a tad hard so let me give a hint:
This picture has been taken right before the plane's maiden flight.
Best regards - Mike
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Fieseler Fi-156 "Storch". 8)
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Close, but no cigar.
Try again ;)
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Fi-256 maybe ? I don't know which one of the 6 (or 9) prototypes built...
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... yep, looks like a Fi256 ... :P
https://cernunninsel.wordpress.com/2014/08/15/fieseler-fi-256-keine-chance-fur-den-super-storch/
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A cigar to Gatrasz!
It's indeed the "Superstorch" and as mentioned before, it's before the maiden flight of that type, it's actually the V-1.
Your turn Gatrasz.
Best regards - Mike
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Hmm...this one ? Maybe easy...
(http://s32.postimg.cc/ig2me81o5/0000.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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I am probably wrong, but it looks very similar to the Arsenal VB.10. :-|
G;
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... Fieseler Fi-356 ...? ;D
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I am probably wrong, but it looks very similar to the Arsenal VB.10. :-|
G;
... it sure is, second prototype VB 10-02 under construction ... ;)
I hope you're a cigar smoker ... :P
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... Fieseler Fi-356 ...?
Hahahahaha ! :D
I am probably wrong, but it looks very similar to the Arsenal VB.10. :-|
You aren't wrong, it is the Arsenal VB.10 ! On most of the other known photos, you can clearly see the name 'Arsenal' on the plane ; on this one we can't, but the (heavy) wing armament and engines are most visible...
Your turn ! ;)
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Ok,
Here is a fairly easy one to keep the ball rolling....
(http://s20.postimg.cc/u68q70459/00_Test1.jpg)
G;
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Ah, those fancy jets of my favourite era.
Republic XP-91, easy thing :P
Best regards - Mike
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Republic XP-91
Yep, :D
The old "Thunderceptor"
Your turn Mike.
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I know it's too easy, but nevertheless:
(http://s33.postimg.cc/e1j3lyven/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Easy? What the hell is that..? ;~;
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Looks like an aircraft, doesn't it?
Let me give you a hint: It's the supersonic version of an airplane you know.
Best regards - Mike
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Supersonic Supersaber..?
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I found the model but in my opinnion this is not an easy one :D
Anyways I won't say unless Mike wantss me to say because I found it by cheating and I don't want to spoil the fun.
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... I found it by cheating and I don't want to spoil the fun...
Anyone can do that Bizu.. :'(
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Looks a bit like a mix of F-86 and F-100...
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I don't mind when someone solves the quest with Google's help.
Either way you learn something new and that's the key point of all of this.
If I think I need to put up a quest without google "cheating", I can easily use images that are not available there ;)
Best regards - Mike
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It looks sort of like a Dassault Mystère, But I cant place it.
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It looks sort of like a Dassault Mystère, But I cant place it.
It's not even a Super-Mystère ;)
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can we at least get a hint on the nationality? Because this is actually bugging me. I have gone through almost every book of mine and cannot find anything that seem close.
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might as well post again for the first time in quite a while...
gentlemen what you have here before you is a supermarine 545 serial XA181
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The picture has been taken at 5PM and nobody's around.
Tea time obviously.
Best regards - Mike
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Thom beat me to it.
Yes, it's indeed XA181, the famous Supermarine Type 545 which was intended to be the supersonic Swift.
Your turn Thom!
Best regards - Mike
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just as I was posting the answer Thom decides to steal the show
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i love weird ugly ducklings :D
(http://i.imgur.com/wbOnEB0.jpg)
what happens when you combine an aircraft with a piece of sewer plumbing?
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https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipa-Caproni
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I think it's a Stipa-Caproni.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipa-Caproni
Edit : damned! one minute too late!
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you know how I feel Ivan
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willy wins! your turn lad
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(http://i68.tinypic.com/2zy8z74.gif)
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Dassault Mystere
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Dassault Mystere
Correct!
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I guess it's my turn then...
Hmmm what should I choose?
How about this:
(http://s33.postimg.cc/me8a9fosf/modify.jpg)
Have fun...
Sincerely,
James
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Looking at the odd wings, is it the Tellier T-3 ?
G;
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Don't think so, but Tellier was a good hint.
The T.3 would look like this:
(http://s33.postimg.cc/x0jy54yvz/13_Tellier_T3_001.jpg)
It becomes obvious that the wings of the plane in question are wider and the wing floats' position is different.
During these early days of seaplanes and for a rather small manufacturer like Tellier, it becomes a bit hard to give evidence for the precise type of flying boat.
Here I'm gonna resort to rule out a couple of types:
The T.1 was a racing seaplane, it's out of question.
The T.2 more or less looked the same like the T.3, it's been like the prototype of it.
The T.5 was twin engined (in tandem, pull/push config), so it doesn't fit either.
The T.6 used the same wing like the T.3 with a lengthened fuselage, but since the wings don't fit, it isn't the T.6 either.
The T.7 had three engines, no fit again.
What we're left with is the T.4.
Some of the T.4's differences to the T.3 are:
- Wider wing span (75ft 5in instead of 51ft 1in)
- Sixteen metal struts to support the upper wing, T.3 had way less (count it on the pic, it fits)
Source: https://books.google.de/books?id=n2KoAwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT325&ots=Oksmm8J2AE&dq=tellier%20t.6&hl=de&pg=PT322#v=onepage&q&f=false
Result for my bet: Tellier T.4
Best regards - Mike
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I think Mike's got it.......
It's not a T3
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/alfienoakes2013/tellier_zps4z0pgipc.jpg)
Curiously I've found it listed as a T200
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/alfienoakes2013/Tellier_200_zpsffb2zak4.jpg)
Cheers
Alfie
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I think you got that "T.200" notation from this site Alfie:
http://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Crafts/Craft25746.htm
The notation "200" however would refer to the engine's horsepowers.
On the sitelink given above, you will find James' image as second last in the list, described as
"A Tellier Flying-Boat (350 h.p. Sunbeam-Coatalen "Maori" Engine) about to take off."
This would, according to the book "British and Allied Aircraft Manufacturers of the First World War" (unfortunately the google books link i gave in my previous post only shows one page now for me), match the T.4 again.
Best regards - Mike
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http://flyingmachines.ru/....... excellent website :)
Incidentally, wouldn't mind a go in this.......... o_O
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/alfienoakes2013/Maori%202%20-%203._zpssbntboar.jpg)
Cheers
Alfie
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Mike,
You got it! I thought it would be more challenging, but the knowledge of the SAS community is mind boggling.
Your turn.
Sincerely,
James
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Okay, here we go.
Not sure if this will be easy... it seems like to me, but I know the solution ;)
(http://s33.postimg.cc/nxjit0uan/quest.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/biwqsp2sb/full/)
Best regards - Mike
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Can we get a country of origin?
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Seriously, isn't that obvious?
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Well.. if I had to guess I would put it down to one of Northrop's offerings .. beyond that I am at a loss :-[
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Wait a second.....is that a Horton?
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;D
(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/53240592.jpg)
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No way!
It cant be.
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Okay I see, it's not as obvious as I thought it would be.
Hint:
The plane is of German origin.
It's not alien technology.
It's not a "what if" fake.
The picture is a real photography of an actually flying German aircraft.
Best regards - Mike
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Horton H0-2 1935
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This is so right and so wrong at the same time, but let's allow this to count as "solved" for now.
Wrong parts of the answer are marked red:
Horton H0-2 1935
Let me tell the full story:
The picture shows the Horten Ho 2 (or Ho II) L "Habicht" Serial No. 6, Reg. No. D-10-125 in the year 1944.
The plane was manufactured in 1937 and was originally planned to be a motor glider.
It was flown on many air shows and competitions.
In 1943, when the Horten brothers have been commissioned for development of flying wings for the Luftwaffe, the D-10-125 was used as an experimental aircraft.
In 1944, during the development of the Ho 9 (or H 9 or Ho IX or Ho 229), which was later to become the Gotha Go 229, the D-10-125 was modified with the central leading edge transparencies being reduced to two separate panels on either side of ply skinning and was flown as a "wind-tunnel substitute" for the Ho 9 V-6, with its extended, pointed nose, dummy air-intakes and exhausts, and later twin small fins.
The picture shows a test flight before the fins were attached, it was taken from the book "Jet Planes of the Third Reich, The Secret Projects" Vol. 1 by Manfred Griehl, published by Monogram in 1998.
Your turn cmnderbob.
Best regards - Mike
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and was flown as a "wind-tunnel substitute" for the Ho 9 V-6, with its extended, pointed nose, dummy air-intakes and exhausts, and later twin small fins.
The picture shows a test flight before the fins were attached
Okay, thank you for the explanation ! I would have bet on the Horten III, one of the early motorized versions during some drag test for jet or classical engines, but I would have been wrong ;)
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Man, that gave me a wicked headache. Also apologies for misspelling Horton.
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Sorry about the misspellings, I was just so happy to finally get one. Saw a film of it being pulled by a biplane and gliding once, I remember thinking Wow so early.
Cheers, Bob
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No problem with the misspelling, it's your turn.
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OK I'll have to post something tonight when I'm off work but I doubt I'll be able to stump you guys, Cheers, Bob
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Take all the time you need :)
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(http://s33.postimg.cc/3xmutwb0f/Picture3.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Ok I Know you guys will devourer this quickly, So here goes.
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ZEKE! 8)
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Yes Ghost129er, I thought the P&W might throw you off. It is A6m3 type22 cn3869 owned by Commemorative Air Force based in Camarillo, Calif. I took this picture at Chino Ca. The plane was being overhauled and repainted.
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(http://i.imgur.com/YA2oqB1.jpg)
Derp.
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..... HAL Tejas .... ?
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..... HAL Tejas .... ?
(http://i.imgur.com/aMiaP3J.gif)
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Haha, that one looks as if someone bought two "snap'n'glue" assembly kits from IKEA, one for a Mirage III and one for a Mirage 2000, and then accidentally threw all parts together and lost the construction plan.
5 Minutes Glynn, holy mackerel 8)
Best regards - Mike
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Just timing and pure luck.
I saw a news article on the Indian Defence military/industrial sector ( well effectively HAL ... ( http://www.hal-india.com/Aircraft%20Division%20Bangalore/M__95 (http://www.hal-india.com/Aircraft%20Division%20Bangalore/M__95) - a company that previously had mostly built aircraft under licence) and the issues surrounding the acceptance of this aircraft ... and suddenly I popped in to see it in this thread .... o_O
From what I read, this aircraft was a big step in in both design/technology and manufacturing for them .. and I agree it does look a bit like they had photocopied several sets of plans and got them mixed up. :D :D
I will put up the next pic when I get home tonight.
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Yes, Mirage III parts, Mirage 2000 parts - and plan for Saab Draaken...
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Ok ....
(http://s20.postimg.cc/gy9sxfnjx/00_Test2.jpg)
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Northrop and a Green letter
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a Green letter
Priceless :P
Many would say this is a Northrop Gamma 2E or even a 2F, but that's wrong.
This is a Northrop YA-16, based on the YA-13 which in turn was a Gamma 2C, but equipped with a Pratt & Whitney R-1830-9 engine.
Some sources call this plane "XA-16", but since the photo originates from the National Museum of the USAF website where it's called "YA-16", I prefer that notation.
Image source here: http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Upcoming/Photos.aspx?igphoto=2000571500
Best regards - Mike
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You can't argue with that as an answer... :P. Your turn Mike....
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I ment greek. Damn corrector.
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Something easy, yet strange for the casual airplane identifiers :)
(http://s33.postimg.cc/uivu30kcv/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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This is the Lavochkin La-138
Basically model La-9 equipped with ramjet engines... :P
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Absolutely correct Oscarito, your turn.
To add some more information, the story behind was this:
Developed from the La-7, the La-126 added new laminar-flow wings, a new all metal stressed skin fuselage, new canopy, better armament and many other changes.
The follow-on development of the La-126, the La-130, was the basis for the La-9.
One La-126 was equipped with 2xPVRD-430 subsonic ramjet engines to become the La-126PVRD and one La-130 was equipped with 2xPVRD-450 to become the La-138, both with a boost in top speed of more than 100 km/h being obtained however at the expense of high fuel consumption and severe drag when the engines were not in use.
Best regards - Mike
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A La-9 equipped with ramjet engines!! WOW!!!
;D I never saw this airplane version before.
Very cool !!!!
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OK, here I go...
What plane is this?
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/doh-2.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/doh-2.jpg.html)
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Not quite my era of interest, all I can say is that it somewhat looks like a 20's Dornier design, but it could as well be one of the early all-metal Junkers ones.
No clue...
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Perhaps an Albatross?
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It looks similar to a early Wright design, is it the Wright WP-1
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/401078596371-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)
Which was I think was based on the Dornier Do H Falke ... :-| so I guess Mike was on the right track.
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That's right!
Dornier Do H Falke single seat fighter from 1922 (first flight).
Only five were built.
One of them was converted to a floatplane, renamed "Seefalke", and sent to USA where it was designated Wright WP-1 and evaluated by the Navy.
Your turn 8)
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There are a couple clues that should give this away ....... ;)
(http://s20.postimg.cc/jbnlu2tj1/00_Test3.jpg)
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It´s a WW2 Beaufighter.
It is sunk about half a mile off the Cape Kouroupas at the Cyclades island Naxos, Greece.
According to divers, its firing apparatus is still loaded with ammunition.
I love sunken treasures - http://www.greece-is.com/wreck-diving-greece-top-10-wrecks-dive/
Doing some more research on this treasure,
someone discovered it is Listed as Beaufighter TF X LX998 of 603 Squadron which crash landed in 1943.
That is very interesting to know.
- https://plus.google.com/+KasparSzymanski/posts/ie6wrGfoZ8f
I would love to track down an original photo of it when it was still in flying condition, but searching
for the 603 squadron aircraft, not much was found, just other Beaufighters.
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Well done Max ... One final thing, it is reported that both of the crew members were rescued :D
.......over to you :-*
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That is correct. The crew survived this amazing crash land into the ocean.
Unfortunately, as much as I tried to search for a photo of the original aircraft, I am unable to find it.
At least we know the serial numbers of it and a cool skin can be painted for our game, if anyone would
like to paint one.
Now,
I went deep into my aircraft files to dig up this rare bird for you.
It is very rare and probably the aircraft responsible for people seeing "ufos" in the sky back in the old days :D
(http://i.imgur.com/JpiuEQ0.jpg)
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Oh, the Umbrella Plane... Nemuth Parasol, right ?
I saw it in another quizz a few weeks ago...
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FANTASTIC! 8) You guessed correct, Gaston!
Congrats good buddy!!
Your turn ...
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No congrats, please... as I told in my post, I saw it in a quizz a few times ago... and it has such an unforgettable look !
OK. Next guess :
(http://s33.postimg.cc/u6dijpgjj/Enigme170.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
What plane is it ?
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The airplane is the Gasuden Koken. It was a Japanese long-range research aircraft of the 1930s. It was built by the Tokyo Gas and Electric Industry (also known as Gasuden), to break the world record for longest flight, setting a closed circuit world record of 11,651 km (7,240 mi) in March 1938.
Sincerely,
James
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Perfect, James ! You got it !
Your turn now !
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This one is going to be tricky......the aircraft is currently under restoration. I must warn you though, it may cause bouts of uncontrollable frustration.
This is your last chance to turn back!
Click to enlarge:
(http://s33.postimg.cc/4vs7bwcfz/New_Object.jpg)
Good luck!
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Oh I remember you linking this ugly thing here earlier a few months ago.
It's still ugly. Lol. ;D
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No cheating Ricky!
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Come on guys, it's not that hard!
I'll give you a hint if it is that hard.
Only one was built.........there is your hint.
once again, Good Luck!
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I'm cheating :P
No I'm not :P
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No congrats, please... as I told in my post, I saw it in a quizz a few times ago... and it has such an unforgettable look !
I think that Gasuden Koken has a quite unforgettable look too. ;) What a beautiful machine !
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To get back on topic......Yes it does. It's like a Japanese ANT-25. I would love to see one soaring over my head!
Sincerely,
James
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James, you know...
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/7233/27277042812_f36a2f2cf2_o.png)
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HA HA HA! Very funny Mike
Very funny indeed.
Just don't give it away please.
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I'm afraid that I made it too hard this time!
I'll post this picture to make it easier:
(http://s33.postimg.cc/6ygmp39tb/0633683.jpg)
Once again.....Good luck!
James
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Time for me to tell it?
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Give it a little more time.
I just put up the new Photo.
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This sadly only gets number two in my Top 5 ugly aircraft list. :-X
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.................. The story behind this "one of a kind" aircraft is very interesting ... but shhhhh... ;)
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I know this one but...urgh...impossible to remember the name :P (but I love this one already !)
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You'll get it...............................eventually! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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I wonder how culd this fly :))
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6316939308_f9b1e1a75c_b.jpg)
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Oh I remember you linking this ugly thing here earlier a few months ago.
It's still ugly. Lol. ;D
Not quite.
P51vsFw190 posted it two and a half years ago already. :D
Oh, and I am not gonna tell the name of the plane.
And beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :D
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P51vsFw190 posted it two and a half years ago already. :D
Close enough... But I WAS correct when I did see it here.. :-X
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should I give it up?
Should I give the answer?
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Oh and Bizu,
We started restoration on it and it is due to be done in around 5 years.
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So you got to see this unique plane? nicee 8)
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Is the quest stalled now?
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A Burnelli CB-3 (?), without the tail booms. Very unique aircraft
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:D :D :D :D :D ................ yes ......... finally a new face steps up to the plate..... :P
.... you had better make the next one worth the wait .... ;)
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A Burnelli CB-3 (?), without the tail booms. Very unique aircraft
Despite the fact that it's called CBY-3 this is right.
On behalf of James and in order not to lose much more time on this interesting aircraft, I'd like to say "congratulations" and "your turn!".
Best regards - Mike
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Cool, I never saw this aircraft before. Looks amazing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnelli_CBY-3
Did some research on it and there was only 1 built.
Cool design.
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Thanks y'all. Knew it was designated something like that.
Try this one:
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/mexchiwa/conniecrop_zpsyn55d1c8.jpg)
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Searching for "Connie II" on Google I've found this is the Curtiss XP-60E... :P
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Yep. Durn, that it'd be harder than that. You're up
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(http://www.aero-web.org/database/aircraft/showimage.php?id=12460)
(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/1043/pics/65_7_b3.jpg)
... Hmm, I see a link between the two, they do look a bit similar no? :o
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Maybe they were designed to answer more or less the same non-official requirement for a low-wing monoplane fighter aircraft with radial engine and turbo-supercharger, maximum speed over 650 Km/h and a service ceiling over 37,000ft... :D
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Same questions... similar solutions ! simply logical (and also the reason why many modern planes look quite the same...).
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Connie II is a later development version of the XP-60 though, featuring a bubble top canopy and enhanced aerodynamics;
nevertheless, with all the P-47s around, there was no need for another high altitude fighter so it got trashed and merely contributed to the downfall of Curtiss as an aircraft producing company...
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Perhaps this fine looking two seat biplane reconnaissance bomber could deserve it's place in game.
Do you know what plane is it?
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/K.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/K.jpg.html)
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That's my age of planes again.
On our sunday FAC sessions on the SAS Gameserver, when Gubi asks "what type of mission would you like to play next?" my answer always comes immediately:
BIPLANES!
This one's a rather successful yet little know plane of the 30s, the romanian SET 7K, the armed recon version of the SET 7.
"SET" is the "Societatea Pentru Exploatari Tehnice" ( = Technical Development Society), the second biggest Romanian pre-war aircraft manufacturer after IAR.
Nice plane.
Best regards - Mike
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Not easy to deal with a live databank on aircraft history... :D
Yes, that's right! Your turn...
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Thanks Oscarito :)
Guess this one:
(http://s33.postimg.cc/q8hhm1vhb/quest1.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Way to go Mike!
I hope I can guess the next one, I've been trying to guess the planes for some days straight hoping to get my turn for some unique planes 8)
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It's got the front of a Stork.. Ish, at least the engine cowlings.. So is it by Fieseler?
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I guess no-one realized the obvious when they registered it .....
(http://s20.postimg.cc/uiej2libh/00_Test4.jpg)
:D :D :D
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Very funny G.
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what is this?
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/CzechTexan/China%20Theater%20of%20War/ROC_Air_Force.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/CzechTexan/media/China%20Theater%20of%20War/ROC_Air_Force.jpg.html)
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It seems a Ki-55 Japanese plane with Chinese symbols.
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So is it by Fieseler?
Nope.
what is this?
Not your turn CT.
I guess no-one realized the obvious when they registered it
Actually I think they did realize it.
Congratulations for solving the quest by the way ;)
Some more information about the plane:
It's the "Berlin B9" built by the "Flugtechnische Fachgruppe" (aeronautical expert group) of the "Akademischen Fliegergruppe" (academic flying group) of the "Technischen Hochschule Berlin-Charlottenburg" (Berlin-Charlottenburg Technical College).
The purpose of the plane was to check the feasibility of flights with up to 22g accelleration.
The article from which I took the picture has been translated here:
http://www.luft46.com/prototyp/berlin9.html
Your turn G :)
Best regards - Mike
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I have had a few turns lately, let's run wifh Czech Texan's sugestion.
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That's a captured Tachikawa Ki-55 being serviced by ROC engineers....
Cheers
Alfie
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LOL excuse me for breaking into the line and not waiting my turn ;D
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Looks like Mr Noakes gets to tease us now..
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In that case it'd rather be PA_Willy to tease us, he mentioned the Ki-55 first.
To go a little more into detail about this plane, it's a Ki-55 type 99, serial No. 2 (not seen here since the cowling is opened for maintenance) and tail no. 107, of Communist flying school in Tunhua, in 1946.
These planes have been scraped together by maintenance crews and were barely airworthy, but the PLA had no other choice.
You can read more details of that time in the book "Red Wings Over the Yalu: China, the Soviet Union, and the Air War in Korea" by Xiaoming Zhang (Texas A&M University Press).
Best regards - Mike
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Thank you.
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/30849356/Image2.jpg)
Not easy, I think.
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Holy, that's not my age of planes again.
Good luck to all others, I had to cheat on this one.
Best regards - Mike
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I believe that is the Bristol B.R.7
Sincerely,
James
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It certainly is......bit of a flop for Henri Coanda
What you want in an a/c is good sturdy four square undercarriage.......a bit of lift generated by the wings helps as well :D :D :D
Mind you, couple of years earlier he came up with this.......
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e4/Coanda_1910-Antoniu_Collection.jpg/1920px-Coanda_1910-Antoniu_Collection.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Coanda_1911_patent.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Coand%C4%83_replica.jpg/800px-Coand%C4%83_replica.jpg)
He said he flew it 8) ......I think he was fibbin' ;)
Cheers
Alfie
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I believe that is the Bristol B.R.7
Sincerely,
James
Absolutely correct.
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Unfortunate it wasn't more successful... It's a rather attractive design.
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Try this one on for size:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b4/86/f0/b486f0ca975df48ad22117493d62234b.jpg)
It's another tough one
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no cheating either
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It was too easy. I searched: "first vstol jet" and I got:
Bell VTOL Experimental Vehicle 1954. Derived from Bell ATV (Air Test Vehicle). Model 65.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Model_65
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Good job Willy.
Your turn
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(http://s33.postimg.cc/xdenwftvz/Image1.jpg)
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Oh my! That plane looks like it's about to give birth. ;)
Cloyd
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Oh my! That plane looks like it's about to give birth. ;)
Cloyd
The Pregnant Plane, very good, your turn. 8)
Nah, it's a joke. ;D
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That's my age of planes again.
Another famous one, Andrei Nikolayevich Tupolev's early attempt to build the first all-metal Tupolev Aircraft: The ANT-2.
It's been constructed from a VVS request in 1923 for a light personnel transport and reconnaissance aircraft, could hold two passengers plus the pilot.
The aircraft turned out to be a dead end but it paved the way for the ANT-3, better known as R-3, the first successful Andrei Tupolev design for the Tupolev OKB.
Best regards - Mike
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That's my age of planes again.
Another famous one, Andrei Nikolayevich Tupolev's early attempt to build the first all-metal Tupolev Aircraft: The ANT-2.
It's been constructed from a VVS request in 1923 for a light personnel transport and reconnaissance aircraft, could hold two passengers plus the pilot.
The aircraft turned out to be a dead end but it paved the way for the ANT-3, better known as R-3, the first successful Andrei Tupolev design for the Tupolev OKB.
Best regards - Mike
More than perfect answer.
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Thanks Willy ;)
Next quest, I'm curious whether this will turn out to be tough or not:
(http://s33.postimg.cc/ek4g3dftb/quest1.jpg)
For obvious reasons just naming the base type doesn't qualify as the correct answer, you have to be a little more specific.
Best regards - Mike
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He 111 V6?
Nope, that's probably wrong. A 111 with 88 engines, though
111H-23?
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The nacelle and radiator structure does not really seem like its from a Ju 88. After all, they had the same engine...
Maybe it is an experiment to incorporate annular radiators into the He 111?
This one really does stump me.
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I knew a He-111A with Wright-Cyclone engines in China, the Spanish version with Rolls-Royce Merlins, even the jet-assisted testbed Heinkel-111 in Czechoslovakia, but... I would suggest a post-WWII frankenplane experiment with parts of german airplanes produced in France during the war...or a joke from some Rechlin test center groundcrew :D
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He-111-H-20 ?
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Let me give you a few hints because this one seems to be quite hard to guess.
First of all: Cheating is allowed ;)
Use google if you like, I don't mind.
The plane is no joke.
It's based on an "H" version of the 111 as some of you have already guessed correctly.
In particular, this much I can reveal, it's based on a He 111H-6, the bomb racks give it away.
Apparently this is no plane that entered mass production.
And most obviously, the engines are what makes it special.
Initially the engine installation was planned to look like this:
(http://s33.postimg.cc/ijpt5qulr/quest_hint_1.jpg)
But it ended up like shown on the quest picture, the regarding drawing is this:
(http://s33.postimg.cc/l22rybii7/quest_hint_2.jpg)
Good luck guessing ;)
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Is that a Jumo 211J engine with a inter cooler ?
Cheers
Alfie
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No.
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Okay... Is it the Heinkel He-111 V-32, high-altitude bomber prototype (for He-111 R) with two Daimler-Benz DB 601U and turbocharger TK 9 AC ? I have to say that the DB-601 on the second image helped a lot ! My guess for the cowling changes was for turbocharger, but hard to find anyway...if it's really the V32 :D
A link to check :
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234953388-different-he-111/
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Absolutely right Gatrasz, well done!
Thanks for the link, I always thought that only that single image of the plane exists.
For the german readers, a detailed description of the plane can be found in "Luftfahrt International", issue 21/1977, page 3337-3346 (Original "Baubeschreibung" of Weser Flugzeugbau GmbH).
Your turn Gatrasz :)
Best regards - Mike
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Okay, let's go with this one :
(http://s32.postimg.cc/5r9y1sjn9/quest.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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Ha..
Cunning ...... using those markings ....... :P
.. sorry Mike, just a "quick and dirty", but I could not resist the idea .. :-[ ... That said the stock He-111 is a very, very poor model indeed..
(http://s20.postimg.cc/yyckikum5/00_Test5.jpg)
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Yes, I feel a little bad but...it's the only one I know for this plane actually ;) (if needed I could add an image of the prototype when still unfinished but in low quality)
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This one is an SM. 93, a one-of-a-kind dive bomber. Its really unique in its looks, with the one DB-605 neatly tucked away in the forward fuselage.
But it is strange to see it in German markings.
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But it is strange to see it in German markings.
It's beacuse the prototype was completed and made the first flight in '44, during Nazi occupation of Northen Italy.
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That's right, I've always been a fan of this plane's very smooth design, and even more of the Savoia-Marchetti SM.92 ! Front view photos are more easy to identify, with well known Daimler-Benz DB 605A looking much like Macchi C.205. The SM.93 had the pilot lying in a prone position above the rear of the engine, and it happened to be an uncomfortable and restricting position, leading the project to an end despite mostly good performance. The idea to post the plane here came to me from the Berlin B.9 on previous page ;)
HotelAlpha, your turn !
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It's been a few days, so I thought I'd post this one:
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/mexchiwa/mysplane_zpsuek3urxm.jpg)
And no points for the Ju-52 in the background ;)
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Looks a little like Potez 62/65 but...it's obviously not this o_O
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Let me put it that way:
If that plane should represent the plane I think it does, then this is no real plane at all but a dummy target, because to the right there's a neighbour of the same kind, but the real plane I'm thinking of has only been built once.
Best regards - Mike
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It is French, and parts of it are a mockup. Storebror, what do you think it's supposed to be?
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Storebror, what do you think it's supposed to be?
SAB AB-80 would be my bet.
Best regards - Mike
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Ok, time to come clean
I have no idea what it is, and neither does anybody else. This pic did the rounds on some other forums a while back, and though it seems to be a French aircraft/mockup taken during the Occupation, nobody really knows. I always thought it looked very much like a Bristol Bombay/HP Harrow, but it isn't either of those. It does have the tail of the AB-80, it seems, but as to what's going on with the forward fuselage, nobody knows. I don't think it's a turret, but don't know what it is
if anybody figures it out, let us know
Open house
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It looks to me like I could be some sort of heavy duty assault glider. The shape seems to fit the bill and from the limited view I have, the wing roots don't seem to show any sort of fuel lines or control cables. The super thick airfoil also leads me to believe that this was never intended to be powered. But what do I know, I just work in a museum.
Sincerely,
James
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I would be agree with Storebor : SAB turret bomber.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3898444
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Right out of my comfort zone here....it's a bomber and I don't speak French, but after a little digging I found a piece about the same photo........
It would appear that the main bet is on a heavily modified Farman F 224 or even a F2234
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/alfienoakes2013/image_zpsm8oa989a.jpg)
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/alfienoakes2013/5266L_zpsc4dyrubr.jpg)
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/alfienoakes2013/f2234_3_zpsovdcmptm.jpg)
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/alfienoakes2013/21_2_b2_a1_zpsqkqcclks.jpg)
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/alfienoakes2013/Aerovac%20F224_zps9cy8qwrc.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farman_F.220
" A variant NC 223.4 Jules Verne of Naval Aviation French was the first Allied bomber to raid Berlin: on the night of 7 June 1940 aircraft of this variant dropped eight bombs of 250 kg and 80 of 10 kg weight on the German capital.[4] This operation, which was of a primarily psychological-warfare nature, was repeated three days later."
:o Wow, never new that
Also it's been put forward that the gun turret has 3 HS 9 20mm cannon.....
A possible early " Spooky " gunship ?
Apparently the French tried it with 75mm in a Dyle et Bacalan 70
All guesswork I'm afraid :D
Cheers
Alfie
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Whatever it is, it would make a nice looking tilt rotor craft.... ;D
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I think that is pretty attractive for French aircraft standards. Could someone make a request out of this? It would help to fill in the missing places for the French. Also, I would have a blast flying this thing.
Sincerely,
James
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I think that is pretty attractive for French aircraft standards.
:)) Aircrafts.. Women.. - same thing. That rating goes for the women too you know? 8)
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I think I have found some info : http://www.39-45.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&p=289275
Translation of the post of Marc-91 :
If I am not mistaken, this is fuselages AB SAB-80 (Air Bordelaise Company, a short-lived compagny born by the problems of Chantiers aéro-maritime Dyle & Bacalan, circa 30, which was quickly incorporated to SNCASO 1936), captured by the Germans at the Chantiers de Bacalan or in hangars at Bordeaux-Merignac ...
About their presence in Belgium, and the construction of a fake nose and fake turret, I think it is a hoax from the Luftwaffe, the same type He-100/He-113 or the Bf-209 during the Battle of France, or the Fw-198 on the basis of the De Schelde S.21 during the Battle of Britain.
Finally, the fact that these carcasses were not melted down to be recycled makes me suppose that this photo was taken in 1940, 41 or early 1942 at the latest.
Now I can't wait to see if we finally fount the right answer!
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Stalled again as it seems, so I take the baton.
What's this?
(https://s31.postimg.cc/4wbw6tz0b/quest2.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Looks quite old ! early jet of the late '40s ? American, I would say...
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What's this?
A jet! 8)
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Ghost, don't you see that figure by the gear?
it's a HUGE jet!
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Convair XB-46 experimental medium jet bomber from 1947. Only one built...
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Go Oscarito shoot something 8)
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Well done Oscarito, your turn ;)
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Another biplane for you to guess what it is! Sorry, I really love these archaic machines... :-[
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/xxx-1.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/xxx-1.jpg.html)
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Curtiss A-3 Falcon?
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Yay ! Lets hear it for Canadian Avionics....... :D
That there is a Reid Rambler...or rather a Curtiss- Reid Rambler
Vaguely reminiscent of a R-5 don'tcha think ?
Cheers
Alfie
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Exactly!
The Curtiss Reid-Rambler was a Canadian built two seat trainer that served well into the WWII era. Some thirty were built.
Your turn... :)
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I really love these archaic machines... :-[
You and me both Oscarito :D
OK .....one for the older members.....
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/alfienoakes2013/AlbatrosIIJean-MarieLeBris1868_zps71ln93bx.png)
One Horse Power ;)
Cheers
Alfie
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OK .....one for the older members.....
Well, even those under 160 years old would not yet have been born ..... :D :D :D :D :D
G;
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F-35D. My turn?
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Close, but no cigar I'm afraid Mike :(
......and no, it's not a prototype Me 163 either :D
Cheers
Alfie
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It looks like an Etrich 'Taube' had a baby...or should I say an egg ? :D
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French... Le Bris... and the name of the plane became famous during WW1 as a german one had the same name (a bird too...)...
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(http://www.ex-voto-marins.net/images/photos22/22EtablesNDEsperance09.jpg)
.... 1856 ..... as I said, 160 years ago ...... ;)
:D
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Yep, that's right....... Jean Marie Le Bris Albatros No II photographed by Nadar Jan 1st 1868
When I first saw this photo I thought Jean Marie had just nailed a pair of wings to a boat o_O
On closer inspection he's built a timber framed canvas covered FUSELAGE with a rudimentary EMPENNAGE and some form of wing warping/ weight shifting STEERING
Not bad for an a/c built 53 years after Waterloo..... 8)
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/alfienoakes2013/1024px-JM_Le_Bris_-_Barque_Aileacutee_zpsoijglzbb.jpg)
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/alfienoakes2013/la-barque-ailee-de-Jean-Marie-Le-Bris_zpsawsrxiqv.jpg)
Balls of Steel :D
Looks like Gaston Got It.......over to you :)
Cheers
Alfie
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Ok, si if you consider I got it... which plane is this :
(https://s32.postimg.cc/9t54f5v9x/Quizz.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gjllolifl/)
Have a good night !
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Blackburn Botha
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Yep. Your turn now !
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Here's one for y'all
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/mexchiwa/x1_zpsynxstdzv.jpg?1467910568193&1467910570159&1467910577447&1467910577966)
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Too easy :P
That's a YC-122C isn't it?
In particular, this aircraft is N122S after undergoing several modifications, including the engine replacement from original Wright R-1820-101 (1425 hp each) to R-2600-20 (1700 hp each) in 1958.
See http://www.john2031.com/chase/yc-122c_n122s/337_r2600.pdf
Best regards - Mike
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Got it. You're up
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Thanks ;)
This is the next one to guess:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/p16z2zl6j/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Junkers Ju 47 dive bomber. Chinese?
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At that time Junkers planes weren't called "Ju", but you're totally right, this is a Junkers K47 in chinese service.
Can't tell much more about it unfortunately.
Your turn ;)
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BTW I found it's wingman 8)
(http://www.histaviation.com/Ju_K47_chinese_P-3.jpg)
:))
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Who is next?
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Maybe scroll up and read a few of the previous posts and you'll figure out who it is.
PS, if you still can't, it's Dreamk
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Dreamk would have been next but it looks like he forgot about it.
In order not to let this quest stall again and again, let us agree on the following "rule":
Whenever someone's guess is accepted as the right answer by the questioner, the one who scored the correct answer either starts a new quest within 48 hours or the quest turns into an "open round" where the first one to come after this 48 hours period can simply kick off a new quest, whoever it is.
In that sense: Open Round!
Best regards - Mike
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(https://s32.postimg.cc/sf7h3w5cl/20160718_202354.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oiu57wkcx/)
(https://s32.postimg.cc/rs8ked8gl/20160718_202342.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rfh686q6p/)
Okay then, I take my first turn
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Whatever the hell that is, it NEEDS to be in IL-2.
Brb
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BRB??? You gonna knock one up for us Ghost129er? ;)
I'd like mine in red.
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I'd like mine in red.
Red was it's base colour xD
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Monomail or something similar?
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Same period, but different continet and made only for aerobatics
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BRB??? You gonna knock one up for us Ghost129er? ;)
I'd like mine in red.
Had enough of a fright the last time - not going without protection :))
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Dreamk would have been next but it looks like he forgot about it.
In order not to let this quest stall again and again, let us agree on the following "rule":
Whenever someone's guess is accepted as the right answer by the questioner, the one who scored the correct answer either starts a new quest within 48 hours or the quest turns into an "open round" where the first one to come after this 48 hours period can simply kick off a new quest, whoever it is.
In that sense: Open Round!
Best regards - Mike
Can the winner choose to host an open round?
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I have my Google airplane-guide and
I am prepared for any airplane you post! ;D
(https://lh6.ggpht.com/BcP6Pd4GAfMxSS0Il1jCVIZoKj22f2TQVRVXLdahWGrLqmwioLjQwBAsiWRi_7pUog=h900)
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Can the winner choose to host an open round?
Sure, that makes sense when the winner doesn't have a new quest at hands.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Best regards - Mike
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Hints?
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The registration gives it away as a romanian aircraft, but without google I'm lost now.
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ICAR Universal Acrobatic. Where's my beer? ;D
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I was going to say the fuselage derrived from the messerschmitt m23b
But you're right Kilo
Noroc 8)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/jj0zabbsr/86684752_1_644x461_vand_bere_timisoreana_la_stic.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fmnnebqt3/)
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Open round! ;)
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Try this out for size!
(https://s31.postimg.cc/6x1avotor/image.jpg)
James
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A beaufort?
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nope
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Whatever it is , it looks like another glorious failure ... possibly Armstrong Whitworth Albemarle ?
(Shortly to feature in the request section I expect :D :D )
G;
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You got it!
We really need one of these for glider towing and pathfinder missions.
Hmmm..... I think I hear a request approaching.
your turn!
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(Shortly to feature in the request section I expect :D :D )
I just pissed my pants for laughing when I saw it becoming real.
Priceless Glynn & James, absolutely priceless.
Best regards - Mike
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I will be out of town for a few days so I will throw this open to the firsat person who steps up with the next idea, good luck...
;)
G;
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Okay, let's do something different this time.
Now you have to guess two planes!
Take care, if you guess just one right, you will give away that information to others who will gratefully complete the quest :P
Which planes are depicted here?
(https://s31.postimg.cc/7ho6r2p0r/quest.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/5edrjep7v/quest2.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Hm, i fail to see any connection between these two photos?
The first one is an Abrams Explorer, one-off civilian aerial survey plane from the 1930's, the second one is a parachute divebrake as fitted on some Do 217s.
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Absolutely right, your turn :)
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So, was there a connection between the two or not? o_O
And, what's this?
(http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Auliard/10794.jpg)
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Nobody?
Hint: it is not a Soviet-produced plane.
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was there a connection between the two or not?
They were taken from the same issue of "Luftfahrt International", that's the connection ;)
what's this?
(...)
not a Soviet-produced plane
Your national pride gives it away :)
This should be an Ikarus type 522 (often referred to as "Soko 522"), which funny enough (if I'm not totally wrong here) depicted an Fw 190 in the movie "Kelly's Heroes", some might call that a B-Movie but at least actors like Clint Eastwood, Telly Savalas and Donald Sutherland were part of it.
If that's right I'd like to give the next round free as "open round" for everyone!
Best regards - Mike
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Yes, it is a Soko type 522. :)
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So we've got an open round again.
C'mon guys, show us your old plane pics from the attic :D
Best regards - Mike
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OK... name that "thing" :D
(http://i.imgur.com/V5iGKNN.jpg)
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I name it "cuckoo" 8)
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Oh an F-35 :D
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Oh an F-35 :D
:D :D :D
Imagine if Mr Geary had 1.2 trillion dollars to spend on his baby in 1911....VTOL, Stealth etc...no problem.... :D
Looks like it gave a good haircut though......
Forget about that circular triplane nonsense.......what you want for powered flight is STEAM
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/alfienoakes2013/frost_ornithopter_zps2o0diyrk.jpg)
What year & who's the LOONY trying to get it off the ground ?
Cheers
Alfie
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Aright Alfie! You got it correct.
It is the Geary 1911 "thing".
No sure if it ever flew, because there only exists one photo of it :D It is an interesting design, which would later be copied
in the 1920s and 1930s with similar circular wing-shaped wing designs on other aircraft.
As for that "steam machine" from your post,
it looks kind of like the first "aerial drone", judging from its size.
That is a 1890 creation by a guy named E.P. Frost , It weighted 650 pounds and used steam-power to flap a set of goose-feathered wings.
Flop...Flop...Flop...Flop... :D
It did not fly. AAAAHAHAHAH
---- Here are some of his other inventions with much better photos - http://www.oakingtonplane.co.uk/olm_e_p_frost.php
It has been written by some people, that in 1884, Alexander Mozhaisky, a captain in the Russian Imperial Navy,
launched a steam-powered monoplane down a ramp near St. Petersburg, Russia. With success in flying.
- http://www.wright-brothers.org/History_Wing/History_of_the_Airplane/Who_Was_First/Who_Was_First_Intro/Who_Was_First_Intro.htm
Ok, someone else post the next photo
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Ok, someone else post the next photo
Something easy:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/vfbeu52y3/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Fw 44 Stieglitz with an Argus inline engine perhaps?
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Argus inline engine
That much is right, the rest is wrong.
Best regards - Mike
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Ar 66? Go 145?
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Neither nor.
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Okay, a total shot in the dark here - He 72A?
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Udet's Flamingo?
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Okay, a total shot in the dark here - He 72A?
Bingo!
Your turn ;)
Best regards - Mike
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Ok what's this?
(http://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7138/7586071162_772f33aceb_h.jpg)
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Looks like a race plane of the 1920s, but frankly without asking Dr. Google I think I'm lost here, I strongly doubt that any of my books knows that plane.
Best regards - Mike
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That is the Letov S-8.
High performance aircraft.
What queued me into this is the Czech flag on the tail of the nearby aircraft and if you zoom in on the mid fuselage you can see an "Š-8".
Cheers
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Pretty amazing looking aircraft 8)
I love those classic 1920s aircraft designs.
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My turn I guess....
(https://s31.postimg.cc/d30otadgr/Nope.jpg)
Here you go!
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That is the Letov S-8.
Correct! :)
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Can't help myself but it looks like one of those french epic mistakes of the 30s.
Farman?
Best regards - Mike
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Yes Mike, but what kind?
;)
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No clue.
My self discipline forbids to use Dr. Google and among all those epic Farman fails this could be literally any...
Best regards - Mike
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Take an educated guess
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222?
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CORRECT!!!!!!
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Credit goes to Mike for pointing me to the right direction by guessing correctly it was a Farman. After that it was easy. :)
OK, what is this?
(http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/FT/FT1932/08/844-1.jpg)
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Whatever it is, I want one!
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It looks terrible.
The stretched cowling and laid back cabin makes it look like a raceplane.
On the other hand with two seats, it's rather some kind of planes designed for those infamous roundtrip competitions of the 1930s.
The emblem looks odd, the "C8" on the cowling isn't helpful at all.
1930s crap with wings, Dr. Google surely knows it.
Best regards - Mike
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Yes, it is a raceplane.
This is the upgraded version with an Argus As 8 engine, the original came with open cockpit and a Cirrus II engine.
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OK time for the next hint: the plane was built in Germany.
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Still no takers?
Last hint - the plane was named for a region of Germany.
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It looks alot like the Folkerts SK-2
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/law1/folkertssk2.html
but that is not it
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Okay, one more hint - the original version flew in 1928, this particular one (closed cockpit, Argus engine) in 1932.
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I'm officially lost on this and resorted to ask Dr. Google.
He knows it, but let me say that without Google it's absolutely impossible to know about this aircraft.
I'm even sure nobody ever heard of the manufacturer before.
Best regards - Mike
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Well yes, it is a bit obscure one, the manufacturer, it didn't last for too long, however it has one great distinction in giving Gerhard Fieseler his first chance to work on aircraft design.
The mystery plane is an 'Erka' 25/32, or officially Raab-Katzenstein RK.25/32 Ruhrland, an upgraded version of 'Erka' 25 (open cockpit, Cirrus engine) race plane. The photo was taken in Berlin, during the 1932 Circuit of Europe race.
This particular machine was not designed by Gerhard Fieseler, but RK.26 Tigerschwalbe aerobatic plane was. After Raab-Katzensteni went bust, Fieseler founded his own company and continued to build this plane as Fieseler F.1, as well as an improved variant F.2 which he used to win many aerobatic competitions. Later, of course, Fieseler's company went on to design many important and well known aircraft.
If anyone has the next question prepared, please go ahead an post it, i got nothing at the moment. :)
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Very interesting plane and story.
Never knew of that early engagement of Mr. Fieseler.
The honour of having found the first feasible, nevertheless unresolved quest, goes to you.
My regards!
If anyone has the next question prepared, please go ahead an post it, i got nothing at the moment. :)
I take the opportunity to post something easier ;)
What's this?
(https://s31.postimg.cc/5in2hsabv/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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OK it's official - i am confused! :D
the engine nacelles with the chin radiator look like Jumo, it has flame dampeners so it is a night ops plane, 4-blade prop would indicate it is not an early war bird, but it seems to have spatted fixed landing gear???
It almost looks like a two-engined Stuka.
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High altitude x plane, German. A Henschel?
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Let's see...
the engine nacelles with the chin radiator look like Jumo
The chin radiator makes it look a little like a Jumo, but it isn't.
The funny thing about this is that only two planes of this type existed and the other one indeed had Jumo engines ;)
it has flame dampeners so it is a night ops plane
Those are no flame dampeners.
4-blade prop would indicate it is not an early war bird
No that's misleading.
This bird's maiden flight was in 1939.
it seems to have spatted fixed landing gear???
Yes because for development purpose, speed wasn't the main concern and drag didn't play such a big role in the desired flight regime.
High altitude x plane, German. A Henschel?
Absolutely true.
Which one?
Best regards - Mike
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That is how far I can go without Google.
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Hs 130 V1? (Just piggybacking on everyone else's guesses)
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Henschel 128 prototype?
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dpimborough you got it, congratulations!
Your turn ;)
Best regards - Mike
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I won? Woo Hoo! ;D
OK no cheating now ;)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18559850/5685091882_4be9c836ff_b.jpg)
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Henschel 128 prototype?
Cool, i don't think i ever saw a photo of this before. Interesting plane! :)
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That's an amazing plane. How many AA batteries does it take to get it airborne? ;)
Cloyd
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Batteries? No the guy at the back is winding up the huge rubber band :D
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How many AA batteries does it take to get it airborne? ;)
None at all.
The engine is inside the fuselage, you can clearly see how all the fuselage behind the wings is just the turboshaft engine and the exhaust pipe.
Talking about wings, the left one on this image is missing half of it's surface, actually the most important part of it.
Best regards - Mike
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Me thinks its Polish?
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No it's not Polish :)
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Ryan, Vought or something like that.
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That is the Ryan VZ-3RY Vertiplane C.
Cheers!
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That is the Ryan VZ-3RY Vertiplane C.
Cheers!
(https://www.namepros.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fc7z9UFz.gif&hash=b293a6e4c0ad8e501d1fc4a2ecc26f06)
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That is the Ryan VZ-3RY Vertiplane C.
Cheers!
Congratulations! Your turn now P51 :D
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Hmmmmmmm.......what should I pick?
It must be something odd, but also possibly recognizable.
(https://s32.postimg.cc/r4k9a93ad/Unknown.png)
Not the most clear or descriptive picture, but at least it's something.
Good Luck!
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Ah that's easy, that's a Sukhoi Su-1.
Best regards - Mike
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Correct Mike!
Your turn.
Cheers
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72 hours passed, I guess it's my turn then :D
(https://s7.postimg.cc/7s0scs6kb/13939531_10206743819496676_553866325750595532_n.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/72i00f60n/)
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French?
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IRIAF :D
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But that roundel is blue, white, and red, not green, white, and red.
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But that roundel is blue, white, and red, not green, white, and red.
May want to add colorblind to your list of perks. :))
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But that roundel is blue, white, and red, not green, white, and red.
Do you think the man in the picture is French? :)
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F-35 again?
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To me, That roundel on the fuselage is blue, white, and red.
I see where you are coming from. I confused myself.
Is it British?
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Also, the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force insignia is not blue, white, and red, so I'm not entirely sure why that was the answer I got.
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God damn it, I'll just do it - it's a Hawk isn't it? Or an offspring of that? Or something... Hawkey.
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It's an Iranian trainer with Iranian air force insignia, the quality of the photo isn't the best as you can see but I assure you it's not French or something else.
Do you guys give up or you want more time to think?
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Is it indigenous? I.E.....Designed, built, and constructed in Iran?
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Either a BAE Hawk (or own of those) or a Aermacchi MB-339 or something. Al Fursan uses them here in UAE if I'm correct. :-X
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Tazarv Jet trainer
(https://s9.postimg.cc/557hqfo0v/jet.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6k92f5p3v/)
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(https://media.giphy.com/media/13ZHjidRzoi7n2/giphy.gif)
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Correct Ont_R, your turn :)
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Thanks Bogdan,
Try this one. ;)
(https://s10.postimg.cc/700ozxxjt/Quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fia54a42d/)
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Funny bird.
The engines and the biplane design make it look like a 30s design (not 20s because there are no wired braces between the wings apparently).
Since it's snowy around, the plane could very well be from russia, northern europe or canada.
Best regards - Mike
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That has to be one of the most comical photos I have ever seen :D Very funny!
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That is a Fleet 50 Freighter.
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Nice going PvF :)
This is indeed the Fleet 50 Freighter in Northern Canada.
Your turn. ;D
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BEHOLD!
(https://s10.postimg.cc/aaifug3sp/Mystery.jpg)
Good luck
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Göppingen Gö-9, test plane used for Do-335 development.
Best regards - Mike
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Damn you Mike
Your turn.
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Two excellent choices !
A couple of questions........
1. Anyone know how the Go-9 lands ? does it have a skid or wheel (s) ?
2. What is the lad loading into the Fleet 50 ?........a consignment of telegraph poles ? o_O
Cheers
Alfie
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Anyone know how the Go-9 lands ?
Yes:
(https://s10.postimg.cc/k5abgyep5/go9_3.jpg)
does it have a skid or wheel (s) ?
What is the lad loading into the Fleet 50 ?
Looks like a box for one of Gubi's winner cigars :P
Next quest. What's this?
(https://s10.postimg.cc/rvha2aydl/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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I've made a habit of being very wrong, but this is a Loening, HL?
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Loening yes but HL no.
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Loening C-2C
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Wait, hold on.
OL-8A
That was almost bad
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Right James, exactly that's it.
Your turn!
Best regards - Mike
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Hmmmmmmm...........I wonder
(https://s9.postimg.cc/f1sgtugi7/Guess.jpg)
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Holy cow what a funny flying boat.
Can't believe I've never seen that before.
Definitely french.
Can't help myself, but the engines remind be of the Henschel's Gnome-Rhône:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/nk8hlvj33/hs129_knack.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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WOW! I don't recall ever seeing that flying boat type either.
What a lovely design. Very cool and sleek looking.
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French kite. Breguet something. Can't remember which one exactly
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Breguet 731 maritime patrol flying boat, post-war development of the 1930's Breguet 730.
I'll pass this turn, if anyone else has a quest prepared please go ahead.
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OOOOoooo; me! me! as I nearly got it right :)
Slightly different tack as I don't know the answer.
Some bomb racks snagged by a trawler in Lyme Bay; presumed to be Luftwaffe from many that ditched in that area during the Battle of Britain. The sea aquarium owner's Dad brought them up in the 1960's, but they never bothered to identify them.
(http://i.imgur.com/qJNpKID.jpg)
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BD.
Your turn
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I seem to have stalled this with my unseemly interruption . My apologies. Carry on chaps.
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I'll try with another rare bird :
(http://www.jonbius.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/P_66_BW209_01_large.jpg)
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Like his look of a mini-Corsair... more than 66 built...
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Yeah, she looks like a hybrid Brewster Buffalo with C-V. Corsair, but she isn't a Corsair sub-type.
More than 140 built and saw combat on WW2. ( not just training duties, real combat).
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saw combat on WW2
Poor pilots :-|
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I seem to have stalled this with my unseemly interruption.
The left bomb rack cannot be identified unless we see it in full.
The lower one is a bit hard to guess since the picture allows no conclusion on the dimensions.
It's not aerodynamically shaped or covered in any way which means that it's not one of the standard "ETC" bomb racks used by the Luftwaffe on "outer" bomb pylons.
If it was an inner bomb rack, it would have had to be one of a Do-17 since the He-111 had the bombs mounted vertically in the inner racks, at least at the time of BoB.
The Do-17 bomb racks however looked much different to the lower one in the picture.
This bomb rack rather looks like a "field improvisation" mounting.
My bet is that it's a cluster bomb rack wing mount of a Ju-87B, something similar to the BdC10 racks (5x SC 10 or 5x SD 10A per cluster) like depicted here:
(https://s4.postimg.cc/kjdu1dvvh/4ersc50.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Royal Air Force Vultee Vanguard BW209
http://www.aviationphotocompany.com/p954703391/h2AAE4016#h2aae4016
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Stainless got it, the Vultee P-66 Vanguard : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vultee_P-66_Vanguard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vultee_P-66_Vanguard)
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Looks like we stalled again.
Did we have this one already?
If not, which plane is it:
(https://s11.postimg.cc/q0smpoqvn/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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A pusher-type kite, with a right undercarriage "flat tyre". :D :D
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Apparently right but I'm not sure whether this qualifies for the answer :D
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The general plane design scheme reminds me of the Fokker D.XXIII, but this plane is smaller and lacks the forward engine.
The two-blade prop and the fixed landing gear, together with the engine cowling (hiding a Bristol Pegasus perhaps?), hint at the early 30s.
I have not the faintest idea what it could be, but possibly a study aircraft never going into serial production in the form as we see it here.
Don't torture me, please, reveal the truth ;)
Edit: Skoda-Kauba V6?
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It looks like an experimental/'proof-of-concept' of a Saab 21 or a dutch de Schelde S.21 planes.
What a coincidence, different builders but the same serial number.
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This is not skoda i think this is raf aircraft just said xd
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Looks like it's time for a hint.
The plane's origin is Austria.
(https://s9.postimg.cc/fo51y51fz/hint1.jpg)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/s41rrvurz/hint2.jpg)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/mtwt0laj3/hint3.jpg)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/ghhnqr7gv/hint4.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Ach so, also WNF Wn 16.
My first (second) guess was not that bad. Otto Kauba was an Austrian too, and his design for the SK V-6 may have been inspired by this fairly unique arrangement: twin-boom structure, two-blade pusher prop, non-retractable tricycle arrangement landing gear.
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You got it sniperton, congratulations!
Your turn.
Best regards - Mike
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I don't have any quests in the attick, so this only because it's so big and beautiful (and easy).
(https://s16.postimg.cc/i1jl5uuvp/11797.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/o2ha2xhht/)
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An F-35 on the Bodensee 8)
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A. Exactly. The photo reveals what the F-35 really looks like when the 'public demo view' mod is disabled in its software.
B. Not exactly. This gadget was a lot cheaper. :P
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Guess it is the Dornier Do X airliner flying boat from 1929.
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Great, the picture was taken by a Hungarian guy in 1932, probably before the embarkation in Berlin, as the plane never made to Budapest due to a harsh landing in Passau. (How this monster would have landed in Budapest between two bridges on the Danube is another question.) Anyway, your turn. (And also congrats to Mike.)
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Thanks! And here it is the next, a nice tiny bird...
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/v.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/v.jpg.html)
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Optically it reminds you of a Morane and/or Dewoitine.
No clue what exactly it is, but I'd put $5 on the frogs 8)
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Indeed, it smells like cheese...
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Latecoere, maybe?
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Caudron C.600?
(Probably not but am I close???)
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This is french aircraft Nieuport Ni-160
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Correct! The Nieuport Ni-160 was one of the first products of Loire-Nieuport factory after being merged with Breguet, and nationalized into SNCAO. It was the forerunner of Ni-161 fighter prototype that competed with Morane-Saulnier MS.405 for a government contract to supply Armée de l'Air with mass produced front line fighters. The ball is now with King_109
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Okey :) Too easy xd
(http://www.aviationpics.de/myst/mystery0341.jpg)
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Never seen it before
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Dunno whether the info on the net is correct, but theoretically it's the Curtiss XP-40 prototype model aircraft.
http://christophe.arribat.pagesperso-orange.fr/stofp40.html
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Thats Right XP-40 a prototype for a single-engine pursuit plane the U.S. Army Air Corps. your move Sniperton
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg85/Norman_Rockwell/WW2%20in%20color/xp-46_00010_usa.jpg)
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That's a P-46
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Mexchiva is right IMHO. The second photo depicts another Curtiss plane. Anyway.
This is the tail section of another big bird. (The wing upstairs belongs to another plane.) You can simply look up its registry code, but that would be cheating ;)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/4k9yc8ehr/54185.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/71lpjhye3/)
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AW Ensign?
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Excellent! Armstrong Whitworth A.W.27, photographed at Croydon Airfield in 1938. Your turn
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I don't have a good one. Open house
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After a little stall:
(https://s12.postimg.cc/fpmh6mbv1/Pic.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/a1g6fq7ih/)
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Despite the fact that the image has been heavily edited, I'd say the engine looks like a japanese design, so this would be one of the many crazy 1930's biplane designs served in the japanese Army/Navy.
No closer idea what it is yet, would have to read a couple of books now...
Best regards - Mike
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Yokusaka K5Y?
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/sww2/k5y.html
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I know this plane this is Ki-9 (i hope) :D
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In fact the quest photo is only a detail and of such a low quality one that both airplanes fit.
Here's a better pic of the K5Y. Note the shape and position of the marked brace, I think it's closer to the one on the quest photo than in case of the Ki-9:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/4ymzpxi5t/k5y.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3wct7dzcd/)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/jopm7krbz/kurita18.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wsv6k9jdn/)
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Sniperton snipes at it. :D
the Yokosuka Ki-5.
The ball was thrown to you. Go to the Endzone now.
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Here the good Wikipedia entry : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokosuka_K5Y (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokosuka_K5Y)
More than 5000 Ki-5 built.
From the entry : "A K5Y of the Kamikaze Special Attack Corps 3rd Ryuko Squadron was credited with sinking the destroyer USS Callaghan on July 29, 1945, the last US warship lost to kamikaze attack during the war."
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No magic (or knowledge) here, I simply googled for 'japanese biplane' and found a candidate among the pics within 2 minutes. It took another 2 minutes to verify my hypothesis. The credit goes to Storebror who hinted me/us in the right direction ('Japanese'). So if Mike has another nasty quest (as was the WNF Wn 16), let it come!
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Sorry to butt in, but i got one:
(http://www.diseno-art.com/news_content/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Payen-PA49-Katy-5.jpg)
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F-35G :D
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Export version maybe...
Either that or the worlds' most aerodynamic shopping trolley.
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Too easy Pa-49 a french aircraft
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Correct, your turn!
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Easy xd
(http://i.hizliresim.com/NkZDRL.jpg)
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A better photo would help a lot. It's pretty much like a Goéland.
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Yak-6?
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mexchiwa
Perfect you are next
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Open house
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This one shouldn't be hard
(https://s16.postimg.cc/iw5zsz3qd/1403133_10202199462976494_1779002561_o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/sgpmfut29/)
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Soko J-22 Orao
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Try again :D
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MiG-23?
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Hmm...OK! IAR -93 Vultur?
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Yes Oscarito, your turn 8)
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Good! I propose this one now:
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/x.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/x.jpg.html)
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Westland Wapiti?
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Nope! 8)
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Gasuden Kr-1, an unlicenced Japanese derivation from the DH.83 Fox Moth.
(https://s10.postimg.cc/kswuelgvd/kr1_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4uo4ogmn9/)
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Yes! Essentially the same biplane passenger aircraft, from 1932 vintage, with 120 hp de Havilland Gipsy III engine being replaced by 150 hp Gasuden Jimpu 3 radial.
Your turn.
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Calvinists and Roman Catholics pray together to make this plane appear an F-35. This should be fairly easy for Mike, but others are also welcome ;)
(https://s11.postimg.cc/h9yp72h0j/52474.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j1ro1z0db/)
(https://s11.postimg.cc/4jugtz92b/52475.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bztqfrwrj/)
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He70K (or A) - the Hungarian license-produced Heinkel 70, fitted with WM-K-14 radial piston engine of 1,000 horsepower. Why calvinists? because of the the cap of the priest? Hungarian do like fancy clothes...... this includes priests and military
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Correct! And yes, the black robe and the characteristic cap speak undoubtedly for a Calvinist priest on the first photo.
Your turn
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(https://s17.postimg.cc/lni08ksrz/A_6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h1lw0878r/)
What's your guess?
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Lioré et Olivier LeO H-246, 6 built but the Luftwaffe operated 4 aircraft captured in Vichy France.
A transport and maritime reconnaissance flying boat.
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Right! Used mainly by the Germans for clandestine missions in the Baltic area. The Hispano-Suiza engine cowling are characteristics of French heavy seaplanes, The "reactors" under the wings were as a matter if fact air radiators.
(https://s3.postimg.cc/vc1cp3hoz/H_246.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h5lltv6tr/)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/r46kgcg9f/H246_1018_26_2_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i95q5trgv/)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/459uxfk9f/H_246_8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4i193m2j3/)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/bmj2cn9sj/H_246_10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fvnsetd1r/)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/8gygmfr6b/H_246_11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/k62gaei4v/)
Your turn, Cafs!
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Stalled again?
Guess this one:
(http://s18.postimg.cc/6dtt9xmi1/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Info on the net seems to be unreliable, this aircraft is either a Junkers EF-150, or a Baade 152. Please enlighten us.
(http://s22.postimg.cc/livxou2ht/Baade39.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/m8eq17319/)
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Wow i never seen this before
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Info on the net seems to be unreliable, this aircraft is either a Junkers EF-150, or a Baade 152. Please enlighten us.
Close enough to accept this as a solution this time.
But mind you: The Baade 152 is a passenger plane, this one here is a bomber.
This one is the "OKB-1 RB-2" (Reaktivnyy Bombardirovshchik - jet bomber), later just referred to as model "150" designed by Dr. Brunolf Baade:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OKB-1_150
More images of this plane:
(http://s22.postimg.cc/os3voein5/150_01.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/pj177xae9/150_02.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/5pp3f7x0h/150_03.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/o6ji61cyp/150_04.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/aqwhgl4gx/150_05.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/ikx31zc9t/150_06.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/das4aos0x/150_07.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/4h17tl529/150_08.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/6a44hwq8x/150_09.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/akisdhvc1/150_10.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/g9z0xt1i9/150_11.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/du1sxp8td/150_12.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/itz95neg1/150_13.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/7657b3pb5/150_14.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/9oqwbsb1d/150_15.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/4elxkhqsh/150_16.jpg)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/za34bmy8x/150_17.jpg)
Congratulations, your turn sniperton :)
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Yep, you're right, it could have struck my eye that the 152 is a passanger aircraft. I've never seen this plane before, I simply identified one of its photos, but I was confused by what I read about it. :(
As to my turn, open house for today :-|
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So here it is:
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/x-1.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/x-1.jpg.html)
Don't know about you, but I think this is a very beautiful bird.
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Bristol M1C?
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No way! :D
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Blast, well that's the best guess I have, I'll let the professionals take over...
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This is another pic of him. I knew it was painted blue all over. Also, it was ahead of its time, and a fighter prototype was developed. Perhaps that distinctive rudder shape can help...
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/y.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/y.jpg.html)
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Deperdussin 1912 racing monoplane? :D
(nope, the 1912 had wing warp...)
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looks to me like a Magni PM.1 / PM.2 Vittoria.
i am not entirely sure though
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@Full Metal, I think you're right. I would opt for the PM.2 (the PM.1 still had auxiliary wings).
(http://s14.postimg.cc/kn8rzkw69/pm_2.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/xemy635y5/)
Info and more pictures:
http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft33601.htm
http://www.giemmesesto.org/Documentazione/Aerei/MagniPM.html
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Wow what a beautiful a/c......mind you Storebror's jet bomber wasn't baad either :-[ :D
Cheers
Alfie
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Piero Magni PM.1 Vitoria.
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/15862_rd.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/15862_rd.jpg.html)
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/567-1.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/567-1.jpg.html)
An italian sport plane designed by Ingegnere Piero Magni, and flown in 1924. As we can see in the links provided by Sniperton, it was not only a graceful machine, but also very innovative.
Wing bracing incorporated control surfaces that could act both as flaps and air brakes.
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/7241552078_531a817bb6.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/7241552078_531a817bb6.jpg.html)
Cowling resembles Kurt Tank FW 190 V1 prototype, more than a decade later.
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/2PM1disegnocarenaturamagni.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/2PM1disegnocarenaturamagni.jpg.html)
I know this is not the proper place for requests, but I wonder if we could have this beauty in game some day... :)
Full Metal Jacket has the baton.
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(http://i.imgur.com/vApBSbB.jpg)
here ya go gents :D
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percival_Prentice
I advise everyone to have a closer look at this aircraft and compare it to the Me-108 and the Fi-97. It would be interesting to know how these designs evolved by seeing each other's planes. ;)
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Nice choice, funny plane 8)
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Another one inspired by the Me-108/Fi-97 general design, the Rubik M-19 from 1937:
(http://s16.postimg.cc/6narqndw5/Rubik_M_19.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/cbh2hji8h/)
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You're on the ball sniperton ;) have at it mate
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BTW, can anyone tell me about the Me-108/Fi-97 relationship?
Anyway, our next quest item 8)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/4zln1c4z5/quest2.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/cfkwn4sod/)
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The Egyptian Bu-181 - the Gomhouria? Unless it's a double fake and they're actual Bu-181s...
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Yep, they are supposed to be the first batch of Bücker/Goumhourias produced already in Heliopolis, Egypt.
http://www.buecker-museum.de/geschichte/fotogalerie/flugzeuge/bue181/gal01/005.htm
Your turn
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Just dropping to say that the IAR 823 was also inspired from the Taifun
(https://rumaniamilitary.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/1a-be-50-iar-823.jpg)
It's still mexchiwa turn, not mine, sorry for off topic.
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So we've got an open round from stall again.
Guess this one:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/cv97yi22p/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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I thought originally they where Handley Page Hinaidi's..... but the engines are wrong
I'm going with Hyderabads
Cheers
Alfie
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Full score Alfie 8)
Hinaidi's would have had Bristol Jupiter radial engines, these are Napier Lion inliners.
The picture shows Handley Page Hyderabads of 99 Sqn from RAF Upper Heyford en route to the RAF Display, held at RAF Hendon on June 30, 1928.
Your turn!
Best regards - Mike
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Marvelous !
Either would fly beautifully in CUP's " Golden Age " ;)
Right,
Have you got your cap on backwards ?
Are your goggles nice and tight ?
What's the name of this creditable 1st attempt ?
(https://s21.postimg.cc/k4zith7jb/3054ffd6fc3ec9822f9ae4e1640047b1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/46qt3cdb7/)
Cheers
Alfie
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easy mate, a Fokker spin from 1911 :P
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Spot on..... ;D
(https://s16.postimg.cc/94l5buvut/Fokker_in_zijn_Spin_Dutch_aviation_pioneer_Fokke.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6n9e4lby9/)
He made 3 maybe 4 versions of the Spin....I think I prefer this one...everything's roughly in the right place.....clean lines.....a good looking a/c :P
Over to you Champion.....
Cheers
Alfie
P.S You were nobody in 1911 if you didn't have a compass strapped to your leg :D :D :D
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(http://i.imgur.com/QhrPKTV.jpg)
have at it lads
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(https://s18.postimg.cc/ftxduligp/1280px_Martin_XB_51_46_585_in_flight.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rvsroqrp1/)
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you got the ball sniperton :D
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Let me say that for some reason beyond explanation I find the XB-51 a fascinating plane.
An unorthodox "built to purpose" aircraft, highly maneuverable at low level (even if it doesn't look like) and fast down tree top.
And it looks mean.
I mean "mean" if you know what I mean 8)
Best regards - Mike
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For me it looks like a DIY plane by a Bauhaus artist: the fuselage is geometrical and strictly symmetrical in all three dimensions, the stabilizer is like a detachable addition, just to define the rear part of the plane and to repeat the angle of the wings which are small as if they were control surfaces rather than to produce lift. And they are added to the fuselage at the exact centerline both vertically and horizontally.
Anyway, another funny plane:
(https://s15.postimg.cc/cg5um5xgb/quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3xwehtqxj/)
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A twin engine derivate of the F-35?
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Mike,
Not everything is an F-35
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In Mike's vocabulary "F-35" means that he knows the answer, but he doesn't want to ruin the game :)
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that would make sense.
Just by looking at it, it is continually screaming "I"M FRENCH!!!" in my ear. Could someone figure this thing out please, its starting to get on my nerves. :D :P
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Wait just a darn second.......
I know this plane!
I think it's an SNCASE S.E. 100 Prototype Heavy Fighter
Sincerely,
James
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Bingo, well done. And yep, it actually smells French, it shouts, it cries out its origin, probably more than any other plane of any other nation.
(https://s13.postimg.cc/6dt2nj3ev/se100_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ifoghocn7/)
Your turn :D
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Alright, decisions, decisions.......
How about..........THIS!
(https://s17.postimg.cc/ytk7kcrkv/quest.jpg)
Good Luck
James
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Wow, its great, looks like a huuge rubber-band model plane ;D
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Bernard 80 GR?
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Wow, its great, looks like a huuge rubber-band model plane ;D
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHHA :)) My thoughts exactly !! :D
That is one huge rubber-band airplane.
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It was a nasty quest, unless someone finds the source of the photos (http://alternathistory.com/rekordnyi-samolet-bernard-80-gr-frantsiya), it's nearly impossible to identify this obscure prototype plane 82-B3. Congrats to Shakaali who he did so against all odds :D
I hope P51 will tell us the whole story of the development of this aircraft :P 8)
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Pure luck.
Yesterday I happened to bump into a page http://earlyaviators.com/pimage28.htm
:D
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Im not sure of the development of this plane, but i do know one thing......I would love to fly it. It just screams "FLY MEEEEEE!!!!!".
And plus its french and sleek. thats unheard of in the 30's.
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Shakaali, Your up
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OK, then.
What might this bird be:
(https://s4.postimg.cc/6fexcdjml/quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x0hg7xlzt/)
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G.55 Centauro in Argentinean air force livery
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Not even close
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really?
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Maybe a G.56?
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This one is good. Congrats, you've stumped me. good luck everyone else
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VL Pyörremyrsky, Finnish fighter design that used german DB605 engine
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Don´t know if was posted here before, but how about this one?
(https://s18.postimg.cc/3u3s1aeix/Siai_Marchetti_Sm92.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4wdyjtxc5/)
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(https://s17.postimg.cc/nj33iweun/oiuuhygy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6vblgek2z/)
In case it's correct, the question is the plane to the left
(https://s11.postimg.cc/my8g5dyhv/100136.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q52zp0ixr/)
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French, no ?
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Looks Italian to me.
Fiat G.12 with 2-blade propellers?
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A little hint: it's barely legible on the photo, but it's an 'Air France' plane
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Air France? My old eyes didn't see that.
Is it Wibault 280?
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Sort of correct, it's a Wibault 283T (a later model of the same design), photographed together with a DC-2 of KLM in 1939 in Budapest airport.
Congrats, your turn
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And now something completely different.
I don't know whether this is an airplane or what, but it is man-made and it flies, so I believe it counts.
(https://s14.postimg.cc/7hbwu9s8x/quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/d5i7l5wl9/)
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:D ;D :)
Dunno whether it flies, but it's definetely an airplane:
(https://s13.postimg.cc/6hl3ro6sn/7227.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oke6iw2n7/)
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And now something completely different.
I don't know whether this is an airplane or what, but it is man-made and it flies, so I believe it counts.
It is a FIB ! :D
... FIB - Flying Inflatable Boat by Polaris Motors of italy 8) I want one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHNSlypJgQk
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Yes, Polaris FIB 582 to be exact.
Would love to go fishing in one of those. 8)
Your turn, max_thehitman.
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This is an easy one....
(http://alternathistory.com/files/users/user1884/tagelie-bombardirovshiki-Linke-Hofman-02-03.JPG)
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Very early F-35 variant....aka " The missing Linke" :D
Cheers
Alfie
P.S Is that a 22ft propeller ?...or are you just pleased to see me :-*
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Very early F-35 variant....aka " The missing Linke" :D
Cheers
Alfie
P.S Is that a 22ft propeller ?...or are you just pleased to see me :-*
Not actually the prototype F-35, but you almost got it :D
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Lucky me I've just read an article about the company "Linke Hofmann" that built this plane.
The company nowadays btw. still lives on under the roof of the french company "Alstom", they're nowadays "Alstom Transport Deutschland GmbH", formerly named "Linke-Hofmann-Busch GmbH (LHB)" and they're manufacturing rail vehicles.
The plane in question is a Linke-Hofmann R.II (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linke-Hofmann_R.II), "probably the largest single propeller driven aircraft that will ever be built" propelled by "the largest single propeller ever used to propel any aircraft in aviation history" with 22 ft 7.5 in diameter.
The plane is essentially based on "Albatros" biplane fighters, enlarged by a 3:1 scale factor.
It didn't make it to WWI, only two planes have been built (R.55/17 and R.58/17).
Best regards - Mike
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So I declare myself for the winner and continue the quest :D
Something easy:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/okly0inhd/quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7k31ruafx/)
Best regards - Mike
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Well, this is the XB-39, essentially a B-29 fitted with Allison V-3420 liquid-cooled engines.
But I must confess that nickname helped a lot... :-X
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Absolutely correct Oscarito, congratulations!
Your turn.
Best regards - Mike
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Here...
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/JacuzziJ-7Reo.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/JacuzziJ-7Reo.jpg.html)
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Looks like a quite formidable engine in the nose, but I've got no clue what plane that might be.
I could say it's an early draft for the F-35 but I'm scared of being slapped around then...
Best regards - Mike
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Indeed, I forgot to delete the name of the plane from pic, so that I hope no one try to "Inspect Element". Sorry, and Fair Play, please... :D
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I'm taking a total shot in the dark here, but is it a Jacuzzi 7? I'm not sure if I'm correct or not. I vaguely remember seeing this aircraft while I was doing searches for a new bathtub. I don't know the full history, but there were some brothers (7 or 9, not sure) they built (I think) 2 planes. Both crashed after a while and they turned to designing "whirlpools", which I think is another name for awesome bathtub.
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Indeed, Jacuzzi J-7 Rio.
(https://s9.postimg.cc/w0lef5lyn/j7_rio.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/651nvyk4r/)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/sv0soy3cf/jacuzzi_mono.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tkjl1b3vv/)
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You're right! This remarkable plane was the first monoplane with enclosed cockpit and cabin built in USA. Giocondo Jacuzzi, one of the seven brothers from "Jacuzzi Bros." of Berkeley California was killed when the plane had a wing failure. It was powered by 200 hp Hall-Scott engine, and could carry seven people (including pilot).
Your turn.
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You mean, it's P51's turn, I was still downloading the images when he made his correct guess ;)
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Oh Yes, of course! Thank you Sniperton, and proceed P-51... :-[
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Can you give me one moment? I'm trying to make a decision.
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ALL RIGHT! I HAVE MADE MY DECISION!
(https://s10.postimg.cc/7t78njzah/Quest.jpg)
GOOD LUCK!
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(http://s21.postimg.cc/ukv6y0th3/Image997.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/bsjbufx2r/)
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That was fast
youre up!
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(http://s14.postimg.cc/xamnoqro1/quest6.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/9weoct9ql/)
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Looks like a giant bus with 2 tiny wheels :D The 2 men at the door forgot their bus tickets.
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I'm gonna take a shot here and say that it's a Junkers G-38
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Bingo, your turn :D
(http://s11.postimg.cc/lr9psa1bn/quest5.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/u9j5wm7u7/)
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Thanks sniperton, :)
Try this one.
(http://s9.postimg.cc/gq5ge0733/Quest.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/tub0qoz4r/)
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Looks like an MB.15X or something quite similar :-[ But the canopy is different, the engine cowling is different, and the camo is strange.
Edit: Koolhoven F.K.58
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Bang on sniperton ;)
Your go.
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(http://s18.postimg.cc/v2v4dkrh5/quest8.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5k2s0k7x1/)
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Ah, the crocodile.
This Tupolev ANT-9 which went into production in 1933 as "PS-9" (passazhirskiy samolot = passenger airplane).
Two ANT-9 were modified for propaganda air unit 'Maxim Gorky', named after different newspapers and magazines, with this particular one named after the satirical magazine "Crocodile".
The reptile-like nose was made of plywood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhAOkkKDEjo
Best regards - Mike
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'Excellent, just like the movies!' :) And thanks for the video, I haven't seen it before.
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Thanks, so it's my turn:
(http://s18.postimg.cc/pnqb37jnd/quest2.jpg)
To avoid the obvious:
Since this is no ordinary Hellcat, you need to be a tad more specific ;)
Best regards - Mike
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XF-35-2
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XF6F-6?
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XF-35-2
Close :D
XF6F-6?
No, not at all.
Best regards - Mike
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XF6F-2
The first XF6F-1 prototype revised and fitted with a turbocharged Wright R-2600-16 Cyclone radial piston engine. R-2600 replaced by turbo-charged R-2800-21.
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Cheers, you got it Lone Wolf 8)
Your turn!
Best regards - Mike
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Thanks Mike,
Have a go at this one ;)
(http://s14.postimg.cc/vell1k04x/Quest.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/h85u6bp9p/)
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Oh boy, it's plain to see this is an F-35C. A=Monoplane, B=Biplane, C=Triplane.
The sick bag below the front panel gives it away :P
Best regards - Mike
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Advertisement of a Milanese design company from 1922 to demonstrate how bamboo and plywood can be utilized in an inventive way when creating decorative outdoor furniture.
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With a little help from Mr. Google, searching for 3-cylinder engines on triplanes reveales that this plane is equipped with an Anzani engine and therefore probably is a Caproni-Pensuti triplane.
Best regards - Mike
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Very close, Mike, but still not on spot. This is the Caproni-Pensuti:
(https://s12.postimg.cc/et0gdtn8d/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/s9xewoxjt/)
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Okay, so it's not the 3-cylinder engine, I see.
That means that this is the successor built under Breda's supervision, the Breda-Pensuti:
(https://s21.postimg.cc/z52kzhvjb/breda_triplano_1921.jpg)
The engine makes me wonder.
According to what I could find, the updated Pensuti triplane should have changed from the 3-cylinder Anzani engine to a 10-cylinder one.
The images however show a 6-cylinder engine apparently.
Now that most sources refer to the 10-cylinder one as "Breda-Pensuti B.2", I would be tempted to call this a "Breda-Pensuti B.1" or whatever lol 8)
Best regards - Mike
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Advertisement of a Milanese design company from 1922 to demonstrate how bamboo and plywood can be utilized in an inventive way when creating decorative outdoor furniture.
UAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH :D :))
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You got it Mike 8)
Here's the details that were with the photo.
The Breda-Pensuti Triplane the second sample of the Pensuti Triplane [Italy, 1922]
After the war Emilio Pensuti designed an ultra-light plane of very small dimensions. He chose a triplane configuration to be able to get even smaller wings. His design was built by Caproni, not unnaturally as Pensuti was the chief test pilot at Caproni. Unforyunately devlopment of the design was delayed by the death of Pensuti in a crash of a giant Caproni Triplane (Ca.4) which got on fire in flight.
As there were some more Italian ultra light designs they apparently were made to participate in Italian ultra-light contests. A second sample of the Pensuti design was built by the Breda firm ca. 1922. This second sample had a modified tail section and a stronger 10-cylinder Anzani engine. The machine entered the Italian civil register s I-BADZ. It lasted till December 1926.
Due to the various builders the 'Pensuti Triplane' is identified as the Caproni-Pensuti (the first sample) and the Breda-Pensuti or sometimes without the Pensuti name as Breda Ba.1.
Lone Wolf
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Thanks Lone Wolf.
The 6-cylinder engine still makes me wonder...
Nice choice by the way, that was really tough.
Anyway, next round:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/a07unss4p/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Thanks Mike and funny you should pick this one as I was just looking at this yesterday ;D
Kaiser-Fleetwings XBTK-1
(https://s13.postimg.cc/hisz0aobr/800px_XBTK_1_at_Bristol_PA_1946.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/k04q7k883/)
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Ha, lol :))
Yes, 100% right Lone Wolf, my regards!
Your turn.
Best regards - Mike
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Thanks again Mike ;D
Something a little different this time. ;)
(https://s22.postimg.cc/lq7hszi7l/Quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5rys2unzh/)
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Hm... no clue, not really.
Is that registration code "LQ-GMF"?
If so, it would indicate that this should be an argentine civil aircraft.
Whatever...
Best regards - Mike
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1953...
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I've spent more than an hour on this bloody plane, but no joy.
The emblem reminds me of something, but I can't remember what.
Anyway, I think it's time to ask for some help. :-|
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It is the FMA IAe35 Huanquero
Huanquero in Quichua native language means intimidating buzzer hornet
Designed by Kurt Tank and Paul Klages in 1953.
Gen. Peron, president of Argentina at that time baptize "the Justicialist of air" Justicialista is the name of the political movement initiated by Peron.
Designed for general tasks since it should be able to perform the functions of advanced flight training and armament, light transport up to seven passengers and three crew members, air ambulance and photographic reconnaissance
(https://s13.postimg.cc/y84pcx3x3/IAe35_Huanquero.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hkd7af95f/)
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That makes perfect sense, my regards LP ;)
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If lone wolf gives validate the answer I propose this flying wing.
If you can answer also to for whath loadout was designed.
(https://s11.postimg.cc/mjmkwlzdv/quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/iahuufw4f/)
(https://s21.postimg.cc/4c59vh9tj/quest2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/o6rbhlp0z/)
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Same as before +3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DINFIA_IA_38
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Argentina from 1945 to 1960 in aeronautics was the closest thing to the frankestein´s hangar section .
The flying wing "FMA IAe38 Naranjero" was designed by the german Reimar Horten.
Naranjero in Spanish is who carrying oranges ... That was his theoretical use.
Carrying in its rear cargo bay 6 tons of oranges ... is not joke!
In the photo of the front you can see the orange bushes far on the horizon
You turn sniperton!
(https://s21.postimg.cc/l8xdt1ll3/ala_volante_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/osjbiuoar/)
(https://s21.postimg.cc/5oulg90uf/ala_volante3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/866cnikqr/)
(https://s21.postimg.cc/vyfnz1mrr/FMAIAe_38_Naranjero_0019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5q4j9o2o3/)
(https://s21.postimg.cc/emfbdltaf/naranjero.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/c53k6c9dv/)
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Thanks, so let us remain with pusher prop aircrafts.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/ke0vbrcx7/quest8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/epukkv8kn/)
(https://s22.postimg.cc/pfl0ygfch/quest9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oq28m3est/)
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It looks like a seaplane ...
But i think it is not, because the propellers collide the water! neither seen the out floats to stabilize in water.
Super clean and refined design ... by sober seems English, by curves seems Italian...
Tail markings look similar in black and white photo.
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Piaggio P.23M Transport Prototype
https://oldmachinepress.com/2013/06/24/piaggio-p-23m-transport-prototype/
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Excellent! But I still don't know why the fuselage has a flying boat shape. Anyway, it has a beautiful gull-shape wing and an odd-enough engine configuration. I think it's a remarkable plane in several respects, even if it was not a successful design.
Your turn, Dreamk :)
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from the link I brought on the P.23M : "The underside of the aerodynamically clean fuselage had a keel, much like a flying boat, and was watertight. While the aircraft could not operate from the water, the keel fuselage design was incorporated to facilitate emergency water landings. "....
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And now.....
(https://s22.postimg.cc/j21i5gh75/p_7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vtfobyqz1/)
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Finnish ?
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Seems to be real Franken. Prop and engine belongs to a 109, undercarriage to a 190, and tail to a Stuka. ;) :)
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The engine DB 605 and propeller are from bf 109, so should play for the blue team
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Tricky, could be an early Mustang too.
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is the VL Pyörremyrsky??? i found it!
finnish bf 109 of wood. named Hurricane... lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VL_Py%C3%B6rremyrsky
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Now I suggest you one really strange ...
Hint: there is an even uglier variant
(https://s18.postimg.cc/c8f1rn33d/feo.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/joebdfqsl/)
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hold on, locopiston - how this thread works, is you first wait for confirmation that you have guessed correctly.
You can't just assume you are correct and carry on with a new picture.
Please wait for confirmation from previous guy that your guess is correct.
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If locopiston is right, the his pic is a Short Sturgeon, and I don't have anything so open house. Or am I jumping too far ahead?
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Yes, it's the Finnish Pyörremyrsky (Whirlwind) Fighter of 1945 - only one flyable aircraft was completed before the end of the war.
Take a Yak and a Me-109 and mix their designs - and you get this.
Powered by a 12-cylinder inverted-Vee Daimler-Benz DB 605AC engine rated at 1475hp, the Pyorremyrsky had a single-spar wooden wing with plywood skinning and a fuselage of steel-tube construction with detachable metal panels forward and a wooden ply-covered mono-coque aft. Armament comprised one engine-mounted 20mm MG 151 cannon and two 12.7mm LKK/42 machine guns, provision being made for two 200kg bombs underwing.
The Pyörremyrsky design was considered quite successful. It could outclimb the Bf 109G-6 and it was very maneuvrable. It was considered almost ready for mass production. Its only major problem with the design was found to be the low-quality glue used in the joints.
the maximum speed at sea level 522 km / h
the maximum speed at an altitude of 6000 meters of 620-645 km / h
cruising speed 380 km / h
time of climb of 5000 meters 4 min 30 sec
Flight duration 1.5 hours
service ceiling of 11,250 m
(https://s13.postimg.cc/6nnqa4qbb/VL_Pyorremyrsky_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bmb8onu43/)(https://s13.postimg.cc/rltw87q5z/pyorremyrsky_2.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/gz032si0j/)(https://s13.postimg.cc/48vuppa2f/pyorremyrsky_6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dgo36eh4j/)
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I apologize.
Malone is rigt. I was jump the confirmation... is the ansiety of hwo live at GTM-3. Too early for ones, too late for others.
I learn the rule.
The plane I post was the Short Sturgeon TT2.
Mexchiwa is right!
I post the ugliest variant.
you turn mexchiwa!
(https://s15.postimg.cc/qjl4tewx7/short_sturgeon_sb_3_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/w7rfkb19j/)
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Open house
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Nice :)
Guess this one:
(https://s11.postimg.cc/geaj43y7n/quest.jpg)
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australian?
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Definitely yes :)
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The first of two LJW7 Gannet twin-engined photographic, survey and ambulance aircraft built by the Tuggan Aircraft Co.
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Absolutely right LW, your turn 8)
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Thanks Mike :)
Lets try something rotary this time ;)
(https://s11.postimg.cc/k1pic0on7/Quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/edj7l4kan/)
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i think is a end of 70's large scale moulinex, i post her little sister
(https://s11.postimg.cc/tcp6ugir7/moulinette_hachoir_moulinex_compresse.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/d1p2y569b/)
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LMAO :D its a large size Moulinex with a pilot !
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Without a doubt that's 2 british soldiers sitting in that thingy thing.
What is it?
A desperate attempt of obstinate soldiers to cross the channel just before brexit?
A german UFO found in the cliffs of cornwall?
Best regards - Mike
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(https://s11.postimg.cc/k1pic0on7/Quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/edj7l4kan/)
Westland WG 33.
According to helicopter history site http://www.helis.com/ it was intend to be a 2-seat light reconnaissance helicopter but due to a lack of interest or funding the project was abandoned. Only 1 mock-up built.
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"Westland started investigations in 1977 into a light two seat
helicopter that could be used for aerial reconnaissance without the need for a skilled
pilot. "
o_O
I know it has coaxial rotors but that a/c has "Horrible Death" written all over it ..... :D
Made in Yeovil in 1977...says it all really ;)
I think I'll stick to Bleriot 11's thank you 8)
Cheers
Alfie
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You got it Shakaali :)
I agree alfie. This doesn't show much in the way of survivability if an incident should happen especially if you have to punch the ejector seat button. :D
I'm tempted to build this one just to see how it flies. ;)
Lone Wolf
P.s Moulinex perhaps but I was thinking more along the lines of Ninja Blender.
(https://s11.postimg.cc/favx8n0tv/496d3085_6334_4576_9817_ef4aee352130_1_58a2d7373.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b1r76gxkf/)
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Ok, here you go.
What is this aircraft? Or, actually, what was this aircraft before it collided with a henhouse.
(https://s12.postimg.cc/jae4ke3jh/quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f19ei80a1/)
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It's too easy. Another please :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Gamecock
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Darn. Didn't know the same picture is in Wikipedia :P Mine was from http://www.ilmailumuseot.fi/tuotteet.html?id=20738/233732
But yes, it is Gloster Gamecock II, AFAIK the only surviving Gamecock in the world. It is at display in Finnish Aviation Museum in Vantaa.
I visited there a few years back. Our guide said that hens were very excited as a big and strong gamecock came to visit them through the wall :D
Your turn, sniperton
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I haven't found the Wiki picture first. I simply searched for WWII Finnish aircraft wrecks in museum, and came accross to your image in less than 5 minutes. I think it was really too easy, much easier than if you had uploaded a historical b/w photo of an intact plane. You gave me a chance to 'cheat' and I did so. :(
If you have another quest in the attic, please proceed.
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Well, I wouldn't call that cheating. That is creative background work I expected, although you were quite fast :D
Using Google Image search would be cheating...
Go ahead, sniperton. Or call it an open house.
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I use google, but not image search. I type in a few search keywords and eye-scan the images google finds.
OK, just for fun:
(https://s11.postimg.cc/q6mzvm7er/quest10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yowfzydxb/)
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Nice choice sniperton, but I got this one ;)
Focke-Wulf F 19 Ente.
The Focke-Wulf F 19 Ente (German: "Duck") was a German experimental "canard" aircraft in the late 1920s. ( Wikipedia )
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Congrats. Here's a video showing it flying:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-hcQwCHY9o
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That is one crazy looking airplane.
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Thanks sniperton :)
Sure is Max and I can't imagine what the forward visibility of that would have been like.
Not a very good pic but give this one a try.
(https://s14.postimg.cc/ahge9g701/Quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vr40kanal/)
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Yes, finally I know something again :D
This is just accidentally since I've read a detailed report about early torpedo bombers lately.
The plane in question is a Sopwith Cuckoo, the first british Land-plane specifically built for carrier operations.
It's been introduced as the "Sopwith T.1" and made it's maiden flight in 1917.
It's been named "Cuckoo" after the armistice and following severe issues with the Cuckoo Mk.I's Sunbeam Arab engine, 20 T.1s were converted to use Wolseley Viper engines as shown in this picture.
So to be specific, this is a Sopwith T.1 Cuckoo Mk.II
Best regards - Mike
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Bang on Mike ;)
Amazing how our research can coincide with the quest challenge at times. ( insert " Twilight Zone " theme here ) :D
Let's see what ya got for use now Mike,
Lone Wolf
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Thanks LW :)
Frankly the best thing I have at the moment is:
Open Round
Best regards - Mike
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You're welcome Mike and since you've made this an open round.
I give you this one to ponder over. :)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/ok39ld69f/Quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pz4ua37cf/)
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tree bladed propeller?
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Berliner-Joyce P-16?
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That it is and nicely done mexchiwa :)
Your turn mate ;)
Lone Wolf
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Here's an easy one - even has civil reg under the wing:
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/mexchiwa/xplane3_zpsme8nmpne.jpg)
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looks like a hawk 75 with the engine of one liberator... i can't reach which variant is
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Turbocharged P-36?
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This is actually a radial engine 81A (P-40) used by Pratt & Whitney as a test bed for the Twin Wasp SSC7-G (R-1830).
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Lone Wolf is right - his turn
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Ahh, I see. It was tricky :D
(https://s14.postimg.cc/rkos8q64h/p40twinwaspsu2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6b15xvptp/)
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Thanks mexchiwa and yes it was sniperton :D
This one may be too easy but let's see. :)
(https://s14.postimg.cc/kiwhvek9t/Quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4kns59q1p/)
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The last of the "O"s, Curtiss O-52 Owl.
A nice aircraft but not up to date anymore when WW2 began.
Not much to say about that aircraft, I like it but pilots at that time didn't ;)
The exhaust config is remarkable for a radial engine.
Best regards - Mike
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Definitely an interesting arrangement for the exhaust indeed and a nice looking aircraft but like you said Mike it was outdated by the start of WWII.
Your go Mike.
Lone Wolf
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Okay, something easy.
There's an extra cookie if you can explain why the nose wheel is that short 8)
(https://s11.postimg.cc/x5s371c3n/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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FJ-1 and I have no idea. To ease maintenance? The front leg wouldn't extend? Optical illusion?
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http://www.boeingimages.com/archive/XFJ-1-Fury,-Kneeling-2F3XC5BQO9B.html
"A special feature was the bending nose gear, so the fighter could kneel down on the crowded deck of an aircraft carrier"
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Both is right.
The baton goes to mexchiwa, your turn!
The cookie goes to sniperton :)
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I'd of guessed at the result of CFC-Woof's landings from what he tells us from his flying days with F-86s in the RCAF. :)
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Hahaha, yes I've recently read the story.
Outstanding, especially the fact that he could walk away from it ;)
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I'll give it to sniperton
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Damn, I'm not prepared, I just went for the cake, please entertain us with a quest :)
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Open house
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Something easy again?
What's this:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/tkz7c4jch/quest.jpg)
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The previous one sank onto its knees, this one is falling back. The next one should be OK ;D
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Averaged it's okay already ;D
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That would be the North American FJ-4F test and evaluation aircraft, fitted with an auxiliary rocket motor and supplementary fuel tank. Two conversions from FJ-4 ( Wikipedia )
(https://s14.postimg.cc/98uig9jht/FJ_4_F_Fury_on_the_ground_1957.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6rir8zzl9/)
And firing it's rocket motor.
(https://s12.postimg.cc/4ux36iir1/BI212190.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9tkll1mjt/)
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Absolutely correct, your turn Lone Wolf :)
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Thanks Mike, ;D
Try this one. 8)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/941pxr9yn/Quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7p05918vf/)
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Oh... need to ask my books.
The tail looks U.S. built but... ah, I'll wait for my books ;)
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Mike is right, but I can't tell which subtype and motor version is depicted here.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/4hcfj534v/robin6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hy9e20dgb/)
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Books say it's a Curtiss Robin.
To narrow down the exact type, this plane looks pretty much like the long-range "C-2" version but it probably isn't.
The engine is definitive a Curtiss Challanger, that funny double-row six cylinder radial engine.
Most probably this is a "C-1" version and it's indicated that it could be reg. no. N325K, in that case the picture would have probably been taken in Torrance, California.
Note that the N325K registration has been reused since, the last plane I know of carrying that registration was a North American T3J/T-39 Sabreliner in 2001.
Best regards - Mike
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You are correct Mike.
This is indeed the Curtis C-1 Robin and thanks for the info on N325K.
Your go. ;)
Lone Wolf
(https://s14.postimg.cc/894sk1wpd/nc292e_curtis_robin_j1_130_dsc_3336r.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/owwamjrgt/)
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A sort of "out of competition" airplane, just to entertain you with this beautiful, strange bird until Mike returns with the next quest:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/54rp6aquh/quest12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g4cwhwh9h/)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/ek725vvg9/quest13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5cetp6odx/)
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That's a wacky beast sniperton. I want one! It's Italian, right?
Cloyd
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Savioa-Marchetti S.55? Think there may still be the remains of one in South America
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https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,26545.0.html
Close enough?
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Yep, you both are correct, it's the SM S.55. BTW I haven't known that we have a modplane by gio963tto. Thanks for the heads up!
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until Mike returns with the next quest
No, no.
I let it stall, my fault.
It's mexchiwa's turn now :)
Best regards - Mike
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I don't have anything, open house
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Pretty common aircraft, theoretically it should be easy so I selected some photos in which the design isn't so obvious.
I'm curious if anyone can identify the exact variant of the aircraft.
I prepared 3 photos, if you guys want some help I can upload them, just say it.
(https://s21.postimg.cc/3m4r5jkwn/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h31poev83/)
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Don't think it's a T-6/SNJ. Gonna say the us markings are a red herring and it's a Yak-52. How wrong am I?
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You are not wrong :D
It is a Yak-52 with few modifications
(https://s13.postimg.cc/9rljavag7/fab2261f1ab4c9a709a33cb1623dd817.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/55pf2iowz/)
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OHHH, that's cheeky, real cheeky and sneaky. >:D
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I Aint got nothin. Somebody else post one
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Okay, time for something harder.
Maybe.
Maybe not, who knows :D
What's this? (No, the answer is not "a Zeppelin", I'm asking for what is underneath):
(https://s15.postimg.cc/43lr7sm17/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Something straight out of Crimson Skies, at least, what it was based on 8)
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1. A scene from Iron Sky 2 before post-production.
2. Maybe this?
(https://s11.postimg.cc/p94jc4e03/siemtopglider.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/plvxiaw9r/)
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Not number 1 and not exactly number 2 either, but the question remains:
What is it?
Best regards - Mike
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Why does it look like a flying bomb..? That's a mini fuel tank above it for sure, it's got wings. It's a flying bomb of some sort. :-X
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I think it's a wire-controlled glide torpedo developed by Siemens-Schuckert during WWI and launched from under the belly of an L35 Zeppelin as depicted below. I guess it's one of the earlier versions from about 1916/17, but I have no clue which one.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/uvelzffyz/L35et_D3_01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4zuvg8e53/)
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Holy crap are those aerial torpedoes?! o_O
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I think it's a wire-controlled glide torpedo developed by Siemens-Schuckert during WWI and launched from under the belly of an L35 Zeppelin as depicted below. I guess it's one of the earlier versions from about 1916/17, but I have no clue which one.
Absolutely right.
It's the early 1917 version of the Siemens-Schuckert aerial torpedo, controlled via a thin wire from it's launching aircraft (Zeppelin during trials, intended carrier aircraft was the Siemens-Schuckert R VIII). The picture was taken in Jüterbog (https://www.google.com/maps/place/J%C3%BCterbog,+Germany/@51.993389,12.6978397,9z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x47a8788d96c95cd3:0xf196bced8a54e1b2!8m2!3d51.9964734!4d13.0756312) Summer 1917.
The carrier is "L 35" (LZ 80), an "R" class "Super Zeppelin" with 19 gas cells.
The picture was taken from the book
"German Guided Missiles" by Heinz J. Nowarra (Translation by James C. Cable), Schiffer Military/Aviation History Atglen, PA - (C) 1993 Schiffer Publishing Ltd. - ISBN 0-88740-475-8
If you like to know more about these aerial torpedoes of WWI but don't want to buy the book, this site has a little bit of information too: http://warnepieces.blogspot.de/2011/12/guided-missiles-world-war-one-style.html
Your turn sniperton :)
Best regards - Mike
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Thanks Mike. I found that site, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to identify this eco-friendly early anti-ship cruise missile :D
This was a fairly common plane in WWII, and it won't be hard to track it down:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/blmha1pf3/quest3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wva3kw5pn/)
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Surrender markings with lots of C-47s in the background:
It's a jap.
I don't know which one at the moment, but it's a jap :)
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This was a fairly common plane in WWII, and it won't be hard to track it down:
This is a Kyushu K11W Shiragiku (White Chrysanthemum) Used for Advanced Bomber Crew Training, Transport, and Anti-Submarine Warfare, but it inevitably (and unenviably) fell to the role of a Kamikaze aircraft.
Thanks for the hint Storebror :D
Link: http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=771 (http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=771)
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Okay chaps, my turn. :D
It would be much appreciated if you would do sniperton the compliment to let him decide whether your answer was right or not.
Thanks :)
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Okay chaps, my turn. :D
It would be much appreciated if you would do sniperton the compliment to let him decide whether your answer was right or not.
Thanks :)
Sorry, forgot about that! I'll remove the post until he responds, and re-post after he answers. ;)
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I'm sure you're right too, but waiting for the questioner is a matter of respect me thinks.
Thanks for your understanding and for the patience :)
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No problem, the answer was correct. Anyway:
(https://s21.postimg.cc/u5kc0z9gn/kaman_hh43_tuzoltas.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f9lstdy1v/)
;)
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No! He already found it out before I reposted it! ;D
Ok, but you still have to say the full name...
(https://s14.postimg.cc/hbi2ed9v5/DSCN1577.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/sb39pz0a5/)
Was walking in a parking lot several years ago and saw this thing buzz over. Very cute little thing, but a bit strange looking. I had absolutely no idea what it was until a little while ago. It's a blurry shot, but that's good so you can't read the contractor name off the side! Extra credit, explain who used it and what it was used for.
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Kaman HH-43 Huskie Reg. No. N43FK C/N 60-0289 built 1962.
Owner: Kaman Aerospace Corporation, Bloomfield, CT 06002 United States New England.
One of only two airworthy H-43 Huskies worldwide, used for pilot training.
With life-limited blades and no additional blades known, it won't be long before both flying Huskies are retired.
The photo also clearly shows the servo-flap, a hallmark of Kaman's helicopters.
This is used instead of traditional cyclic controls to maneuver the helicopter.
Best regards - Mike
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Kaman HH-43 Huskie Reg. No. N43FK C/N 60-0289 built 1962.
Owner: Kaman Aerospace Corporation, Bloomfield, CT 06002 United States New England.
Best regards - Mike
Outstanding! So I guess a "hard one" for me is not really hard at all for you guys!
One of only two airworthy H-43 Huskies worldwide, used for pilot training.
With life-limited blades and no additional blades known, it won't be long before both flying Huskies are retired.
The photo also clearly shows the servo-flap, a hallmark of Kaman's helicopters.
This is used instead of traditional cyclic controls to maneuver the helicopter.
Best regards - Mike
I was wondering about the flaps, I knew they were for control, but didn't see them on some of the military variants. You can see similar flaps on the Kaman X2. So those old HH-43s are probably their trainer for the revolutionary K Max:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/g9b3nnbzt/95ab8ba7689fe832d98865bda1ac5d89.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q6m4gpjlh/)
Loved watching videos of this thing lifting piles of logs at the New England Air Museum!
Someone else's turn to do a "harder one" :)
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There's a good explanation about the Servo Flaps here:
http://www.helis.com/howflies/servo.php
Now that sniperton had this bird first, I guess it's his turn, right?
Best regards - Mike
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I guess it's a typical 'open house' situation now ;D
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There's a good explanation about the Servo Flaps here:
http://www.helis.com/howflies/servo.php
Very interesting, thank you. :)
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I guess it's a typical 'open house' situation now ;D
Okay...
This one should be fairly easy:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/d9sr0wge1/quest5.jpg)
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Hi all,
Well, I'm a little ashamed about jumping in... But this one strongly reminded me of some british design, so I googled "british flying wing" and came up with this : Armstrong Whitworth A. W. 52.
Very interesting and funny thread by the way, keep it up !
Best regards
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I'm a little ashamed about jumping in
Why that?
Everyone is invited to guess here and your guess was spot on!
Armstrong Whitworth A. W. 52.
Absolutely right.
Just let me add that this picture shows the 2nd aircraft, the one equipped with Derwent engines (TS363).
Aircraft no.1 was equipped with Nene engines (TS368).
Your turn :)
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Without Dr. Google I wouldn't have guessed :-[
Whatever, here is something that is worth a try maybe. Happy hunting !
Regards
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5774/31046093326_d4f1482ef0_o.jpg)
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As regards the previous, was this a test bed for the Vulcan one wonders?
Another question engendered by this entertaining thread. Ho could the French, known for their sense of style and panache design so many ugly aircraft?
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Chubakka's DIY V-1 attached to the Millennium Falcon.
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The picture shows a JB-2 "Loon" flying bomb attached to a B-17.
Full scale picture here:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/gunr59mtt/B_17_with_JB_2_Loons.jpg)
The JB-2 has been developed from crashed V-1 buzzbombs on great britain in june 1944.
It's been a great reverse engineering job: Only 3 weeks after the first V-1 splashed on UK, the first JB-2 copy was launched in the U.S.
Initial plans were to use them in the assault of the japanese homeland, but actually none was used in combat.
How could the French, known for their sense of style and panache design so many ugly aircraft?
How come it's impossible to answer that question without violating the forum rules? 8)
Best regards - Mike
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Evidence speaks for itself ;)
And yes the development story of that jet bomb is pretty amazing.
Regards
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So here we go, next quest:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/je53tjc1d/quest.jpg)
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Ah, a rare bird indeed! Only 6 of the kind were ever built, and this specific one was used as a testbed for development of different jet engines (hence the two outboard nacelles). Standard ones only had the 4 inboard engines packed into twin nacelles. The airframe itself was a development of an older piston-engined transport plane, which itself just missed deployment in WW2.
As for the name and country of origin, i'll leave it for someone else. Should not be hard to guess now! :)
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Without googling... I'll only say that vertical stabilizer tastes a bit like a Douglas design... yes??
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Douglas? Not at all.
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An early Avro business/experimental jet?
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Avro experimental jet fits pretty well.
Now the question is: Which one?
Best regards - Mike
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AVRO 706 Ashton?
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Absolutely true George.
Some background information:
The picture shows the Avro Ashton Mk.3 "WB493" landing at Filton in 1955.
WB493 first flew on 18 December 1951, and was delivered to the R.A.E., Farnborough, for high altitude brush wear investigations and instrument development.
It then came to the Bristol Engine Division, Filton, in 1955 as test bed for advanced marks of reheat Bristol Olympus turbojets.
An Olympus was mounted outboard of each nacelle and in 1957-58 the aircraft flew with the port Olympus replaced by the Bristol Orpheus.
Your turn George!
Best regards - Mike
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Google was my friend! ;)
No worthy subject to propose. Open house!
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Douglas? Not at all.
Just a pure guess! ;D
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(https://s17.postimg.cc/6v161jhqn/guess.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cj7gsfm2z/)
guess this ellegant plane
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It's available as early alpha mod here ;)
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Some kind of He-112 prototype ?
Regards
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Czech...
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Avia B.35 third prototype or B.135 ? :P
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(https://s21.postimg.cc/jssj4dk5j/avia135red.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/idqyfnj2b/)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/6lrlo89qx/avia135blue.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gvu0ngzmd/)
Yes, it's the Avia 135, Czech and Bulgarian.
Played for both teams, blue and red.
Hunts for 111 and liberators.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avia_B-135
good to know this plane is here as mod!
tanks Storebror!
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,42212.msg485986.html#msg485986
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13659.36.html
point for Gaston
you turn alexandre442!
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That should be Mike's turn or Gaston's ;)
The elephant was standing still in the corridor :D
Otherwise let's call it an open house.
Regards
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Definitely your turn alex, you solved it!
Best regards - Mike
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OK then...
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5671/31155172625_3bf99ea668_o.jpg)
Regards
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Edit: God damn it I got the wrong number, it's the DH. 88* Comet... I had forgotten it's number so I Google'd it and got the Airliner one. *Facepalm* I test flew and did the maiden flight for someone who scratchbuilt a RC kit of this bird, it was fast and man did it handle well! 8)
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In fact it isn't, but I agree it could have been ;)
Regards
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I've got a DH.88 poster hanging in the attic and it definitely doesn't look as froggy as this one 8)
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The pic is tricky, first I guessed it was a single-engine late-war Italian fighter with two engines instead of one. >:(
Now I see that both BOT Ghost129er and Mike were right, this is probably the French 'localized' version of the DH.88, the Caudron C.640.
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You're almost right Sniperton, but not quite yet :-|
There is a detail that makes the difference.
Regards
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Do you mean this one?
http://www.aviastar.org/air/france/caudron_c-670.php
(https://s17.postimg.cc/fb7nb9u8v/c670.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/apbj2x8pn/)
;D
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Me thinks sniperton nailed it 8)
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If so, it's a typical 'shared kill' situation. I think a bit less artistic photo of this nearly non-existant plane would have helped a lot anyway... ;)
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That is right, but it's hard to find something that last longer than five minutes around here :D
Your turn Sniperton, congrats.
Regards
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The congrats go back to BOT Ghost129er and Storebror, without their aid I would not have been able to come to the solution.
This one is dedicated to our engine-specialists:
(https://s15.postimg.cc/kjc45wuej/quest14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/k6kpzqc4n/)
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It is a Bolkhovitinov S-2M-103 Sparka (first flight 1940)
https://oldmachinepress.com/2013/05/24/bolkhovitinov-s-2m-103-sparka/
(https://oldmachinepress.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/bolkhovitinov-s-2m-103.jpg)
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DAMN!
I was about to press post.
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Great, indeed, Max has the baton :D
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Great! ;D I am going to give you an easy one !
(http://www.strangeracer.com/images/content/187876.jpg)
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No, no :D
~I am just joking
The image is the one below...
Guess what it is?
(http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/05/54cb2805082d7_-_bizarre-aircraft-05-0114-de.jpg)
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The Grumman X-29~ Throwback to Jane's Fighter Anthology! 8)
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That is Correct!! 8)
Your turn BOT Ghost123er!
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Guess what it is?
German Engineering.
*SCNR*
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Open house; just wanted to yell the answer. 8)
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Guess this one:
(https://s12.postimg.cc/wy5gifejh/quest4.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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YP-29A??
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That was fast :o
Congratulations, your turn :)
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This thread has 3 days dead, let's relive it
More than one day is open house.
Guess this!
(https://s22.postimg.cc/l540qoqa9/guess.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/695hj3evh/)
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The counter-rotating props seem to be a three-blade vs a four-blade, but I haven't found any such configuration for the Douglas xTB2D Skypirate as it looks like :-[
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Is an optical effect ... the hidden blade is just above the nose
Yes it's the Douglas XTB2 D-2 Skypirate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_XTB2D_Skypirate
Prototype to replace the avenguer, the counter-rotating propellers are for face the torque and thus be able to launch stable the torpedoes.
The plane have the same size and weight as the B-25
Post a photo to see the two propellers of four counter-rotating blades stopped.
(https://s12.postimg.cc/xgjt8qbml/TB2_D_Skypirate_02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8aiv1wac9/)
Your turn sniperton!
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That plane's a beast, thanks for choosing it loco :)
I love the "corncob" engine 8)
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That is one amazing looking airplane. I never knew about this one.
It looks big too.
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Yep, it's a real beast :D
This one should be fairly easy:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/dpaepvqgf/quest15.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7ocpst3u3/)
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It's a Curtiss SC-1 Seahawk as delivered by Curtiss. Some were refitted to a floatplane configuration and used at the very end of WWII by a few US warships.
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Here's an airplane I'd love to see in IL2, but it hasn't been modeled yet ...
(http://i67.tinypic.com/k33jih.jpg)
Any idea's to what type it is and what nationality it is?
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Yes, it's the Curtiss SC-1 Seahawk, mostly used as a float recon plane towards the end of the war, but delivered in a land configuration to units using it most of the time, as can be seen here in my pic. But I guess the plane you uploaded in your 2nd post is a different one. Anyway, the baton is yours, tooslow.
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It looks like the French Bloch 152 ... but it is less developed, with very small wheels and a smooth bonnet ...
Salute to storebror! :D
i have more "corn cob"
(https://s22.postimg.cc/keoqhrigx/choclo.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ontgjxlq5/)
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You are close as it is French, but this is no Bloch.
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Rousseau R-30? French light fighter prototype, don't think there was any production
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By the air intake in the chin I thought it was a bloch 150, then see the wheels and I thought it was some variant of the Morane Saulnier 405 with radial engine.
When see the photos of those planes I realized that this is much smaller.
I arrived at a forum of the "prototype Armée del'Air Française" and I found it.
Is a Roussel R-30 a small light fighter designed and built by the brother of the designer of Bloch 150, although this design measures and weighs half. (That's why the resemblance)
(https://s14.postimg.cc/6vj0eek8x/roussel_R30.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4qyndbim5/)
Length: 6.10 m (20 ft 0 in)
Wingspan: 7.72 m (25 ft 4 in)
Height: 2.10 m (6 ft 11 in)
Wing area: 10 m2 (110 sq ft)
Empty weight: 1,030 kg (2,271 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 1,768 kg (3,898 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Gnome-Rhône 14M-7 14-cyl air-cooled radial piston engine, 510 kW (690 hp)
Maximum speed: 520 km/h (323 mph; 281 kn) at 5,800 m (19,000 ft)
Range: 1,200 km (746 mi; 648 nmi)
Endurance: 2 hours
Rate of climb: 19 m/s (3,700 ft/min)
Guns: 2x 20 mm (0.787 in) Hispano-Suiza HS.404 cannon
Although Jean-Jacques Rousseau was one of the parents of the illustration, I doubt that he would have designed an airplane.
But without a doubt the point is for mexchiwa. :D
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You are both right Locopiston and mexchiwa, it is a Roussel 30!
Locopiston thanks for the additional information in the three view with information that would be useful for a modeler. The information I had on this fighter was from William Green's "War Planes of The Second World War" - Fighters Volume One (of four) the 1963 edition.
Below are the two pages from the book on the Roussel 30:
(http://i67.tinypic.com/k3916x.jpg)
(http://i66.tinypic.com/k2ckzo.jpg)
I would appreciate any link (or links) either of you found useful regarding this aircraft. I plan like to put together a "formal" request for this plane to be developed for IL2. I've always been fascinated by the few very small light weight fighters developed in the 1935 to 1945 time period. This one in particular looks like it could have been developed into a production type in another year (time which France didn't have).
Thanks in advance ...tooslow
P.S. It looks like the baton is being passed to mexchiwa!!
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I add some fonts in several languages. o_O
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roussel_R-30
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/EwingBill/12198.htm
http://www.fliegerweb.com/de/lexicon/Geschichte/Roussel+R.30-386
http://www.forosegundaguerra.com/viewtopic.php?t=13480#p187680
There are references to the Caudron C-714 C1 that is modded here
The last one is where I found it ... there are other very strange French little fighters. ;D
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I don't have anything good - open house
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In that case:
Good luck with guessing 8)
(https://s14.postimg.cc/43ig584i9/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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@tooslow
http://forum.valka.cz/topic/view/42933/Roussel-30
It's in Czech, but Google Translate will help you out ;)
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Looks like a me 163 komet, but with tail and negative arrow wings ...
(https://s12.postimg.cc/hb1h6xxod/me_163.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/k54mkdzuh/)
I'll have to keep looking, but I think I'll put the previous line in google translate and try with cyrillic characters ;)
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What about the Tsybin LL-3? At least the undercarriage and the hangar look similar ;D
(https://s15.postimg.cc/sgv1qynvf/tsybin_ll_3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b3krc3sk7/)
http://testpilot.ru/russia/tsybin/ts/1/ts1_e.htm
http://xplanes.free.fr/florov/afr-8.html
http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft22029.htm
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You nailed it sniperton, congratulations!
Your turn 8)
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Given the markings, it won't be that hard to guess this one.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/40dkpsf73/quest16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4d4yvyxgr/)
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Looks like a Swiss Il2 ... must shoot toblerones :P
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That is an EKW C-3603.
It was a Swiss multi-purpose combat aircraft of the 1930s and 1940s, built by the Eidgenoessische Konstruktionswerkstaette. It was a single-engined monoplane with a crew of two. It entered service in 1942, and despite being obsolete, remained in front line use until the early 1950s, and as a target tug until 1987.
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I regret that i will not have sufficient time tomorrow to post a new plane. Therefore, I will preempt that by posting now.
(https://s12.postimg.cc/k6plaj4el/quest.png)
good luck
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please do not cheat by using the website listed on the image. i want this to be fair.
thank you
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Locopiston thank you for the links, they will be helpful.
Do you have the link for the three view you posted in reply 973, I can't find it. I'd like to include it in my request for the Roussel 30.
Thanks ... tooslow
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I had forgotten this :-[
http://aviarmor.net/aww2/_photo_exp_a/_france/roussel%20r-30/
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(https://s11.postimg.cc/j99ir5cpv/perro_cola1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7wwx9d40v/)
I think I found it in this same thread! :D
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg576957.html#msg576957
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Close loco, but this one is a girls plane ;)
(https://s21.postimg.cc/4dp7kri47/quest.jpg)
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A plane for industrious girls:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/pqo5h9kt5/Ryan_Factory.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wh4mqp7yt/)
(https://s12.postimg.cc/g8xxc1bnx/kinner_R55_01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/472jhw2fd/)
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Is anyone going to guess?
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Locopiston,
Thanks for the additional link, it's just what I needed.
Appreciate the help ... tooslow
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If noone else wants to guess, I'll do. It's a Ryan PT-22 Recruit, a US trainer aircraft which was produced in large quantities, with several airworthy examples still flying today.
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sniperton we're still at this one:
(https://s12.postimg.cc/k6plaj4el/quest.png)
I've posted that PT-22 only to give an example for a girl's plane (as a broad hint).
Best regards - Mike
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not is a DH.88 comert?
:-|
I put the photo of the dog that bites its tail because the same plane was previously posted on this thread
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This one was not.
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I too believed that it has already been resolved :-[
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No, the french one and the british one were done already. this one is a completely different airplane.
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Hi all,
I think it's a Grigorovich DG-55 also known as E-2 Kometa... This one gave me headaches :)
It's referred as a "girl plane" because eight female student designers worked on the model.
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Congrats Alexandre! The fullest info I could find (with several pics and further references):
https://www.ecured.cu/Grigorovich_E-2
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Thanks for the link to this site, the one I've found wasn't as detailed as this one. There is a nice pic with three of the girls.
And obviously, someone had guessed well before me ;)
Regards
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someone had guessed well before me ;)
If that's aimed at me: I cheated!
It's your turn, you deserved it :)
Best regards - Mike
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Ok then, let's try with this one... I wanted to post something else but I was dumb enough to write it in the chat line ( I wanted to check if it was asked there before :D)
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5715/31244750122_e2c2a0191f_h.jpg)
Regards
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Ambrosini SAI.207 light fighter.
I forfeit my turn :)
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Man, that was fast, and couldn't be more precise, congrats :)
Regards
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Actually i was researching these not that long ago, also the related SAI.403 and the post-war experimental jets based on them. So i guess i was lucky that you posted this pic.
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(https://s18.postimg.cc/cv35tjnjt/desfibrilador.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uxw8krjed/)
It seems that this thread has died again ...
Let's relive it again!
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Guess this one!
(https://s15.postimg.cc/3rxvopvzv/guess17.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6m1125y5z/)
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XB-38
Or as I call it, the P-17/B-40 :))
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good!
Only one built. faster but lower than common B17
It did not make sense, since the alison were most required and useful on the fighters.
you turn Ghost!
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Only one built, but only until someone makes it in IL-2! 8) (I don't remember if there is one or not, but I digress).
(http://i.imgur.com/mHaKqCs.png)
WIP teaser. Easy. Guess and let's get rolling.
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F-35?
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Ghost, is that a proper T-6 Harvard 3d model?
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You sure as hell bet your ass it is. Your turn.
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Still trying to keep this thread alive. :(
(https://s24.postimg.cc/4ul6i491h/jeringuilla.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fu6dtpzgh/)
Please have a plane in mind for the trivia before guess... when you success is confirm, post immediately! o_O
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guess this!
(https://s28.postimg.cc/6vki4mjwd/guess8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/661ps9jcp/)
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Focke-Wulf Fw 187 Falke, too easy ;)
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Sometimes I hate working. Heres my shot!
(https://s18.postimg.cc/8xg2qa6zt/No_cheating_here.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x16uekpgl/)
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Easy, that's a early Austrian F-35 fitted with rudimentary "pixelation" stealth technology ...
..........aka Hansa Brandenburg D1 :D :D :D :D
One for our American members.....
(https://s23.postimg.cc/i0bftvhcr/uav_1_kettering.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/z0uc2judz/)
Cheers
Alfie
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When you click on the image it says "uav-1-kettering" so let me guess... it's a Kettering "Bug" UAV?
Either case, you're a bit fast on the trigger, BA didn't confirm your guess yet.
Best regards - Mike
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This thread goes from being dead to going very fast!! :D
yes storebror is a Fw 187! i have one of this bird´s son, for next times.
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Apologies....you go next,,,,,, I'm drunk :-[
Cheers
Alfie
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Something easy for the time being:
(https://s24.postimg.cc/z4onk7rol/quest.jpg)
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Bf-109 V31
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Depending on sources, some call it Me 209 V-3 but 109 V31 is fine as well, your turn! :)
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This is one I always wanted to post.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/o2i5npwtr/Guess_Uberammergau.jpg)
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Captured Renard R.37 ?
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Indeed, flown back to Germany on it maiden flight ( The Germans didn't kwow..)
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Indeed, flown back to Germany on it maiden flight ( The Germans didn't kwow..)
On its maiden flight?
WOW! Thats interesting. 8)
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And it appears they had to seek help in order to start the engine. I also read that it was her first and last flight, and even that she was eventually crashed on her first landing... If someone have solid facts about that one...
Meanwhile, take a look at this one
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5594/31599446565_7a4775da6b_b.jpg)
Regards
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I could not find it .. but found this
(https://s23.postimg.cc/lwv8r6vsb/Arsenal_VG_90_copia.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/v4nh7w2uf/)
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It's nearly the same as the quest plane, just two development steps further.
Best regards - Mike
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is the Arsenal Vg70... i post the VG90
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Sorry for the delay but yes you're right locopiston (and Mike too ;))
The VG 70 was powered by a jumo 004, it was planned to re-engine it with a Rolls Royce Derwent under the designiation VG 80 but it was cancelled in favor of the VG 90 that you posted.
Regards
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Salute!
great to know about these super clean designs
try with this!
(https://s27.postimg.cc/rr8hn3pw3/Guess3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3nhpyt7f3/)
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The famous Bugatti 100P.
The original one never flew, and this replicata did so only 3 times until it crashed, killing it's pilot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yZdrvgV4qE
Best regards - Mike
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Good!
is the 110P! the figther version prototype
(https://s29.postimg.cc/6kzule153/bugatti_wallpaper1280_Large.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/801fa4283/)
(https://s29.postimg.cc/hluzqetdz/bugatti_110p_general_arrangment.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uq0k33lfn/)
you turn storebror!
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Well the suitability of that plane as a fighter is questionable to say the least... nevertheless, an interesting plane, nice choice loco!
Guess this one:
(https://s28.postimg.cc/i2ug1kcjh/quest2.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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This little one is really hard.
I think, by its lines that is some French prototype of mini figther ... Sud est or SNCASE. But I can not find it.
On the other hand I think it is the lovely German mouse winged
(https://s24.postimg.cc/cjroaozat/83943_messerschmitt_kr_175_b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9cx4r2eup/)
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This little one is really hard.
That was the intention ;)
Time for some hints:
It's neither french nor german, but "prototype" fits in that WW2 stopped further development and production of this little trainer aircraft and only two could be produced.
The picture shows aircraft no.1 at Paris Air Show in 1938, with retouched background (not retouched by me, but by the manufacturer).
Last but not least, this is the engine:
(https://s23.postimg.cc/i02x8d35n/engine.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Without the hint it was too hard. With the hint it was too easy. PWS-33, right?
(https://s28.postimg.cc/ihekg4unx/pws33_2.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/751yyclyx/)
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Spot on sniperton, my regards.
Your turn :)
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Dunno whether we had this:
(https://s23.postimg.cc/4kv4l2rvf/quest17.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/euxjkbhqv/)
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I don't think we had it before, but that's a Breda Ba.27 - the poor man's peashooter :P
Best regards - Mike
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I hoped it would take a bit longer due to the Chinese emblem :(
Anyway, well done, your turn :P
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Sorry but that's been one of my favourite eras of aeronautics.
This is the other one: Early jet development.
Guess this one:
(https://s27.postimg.cc/5qjtzwptf/quest.jpg)
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Looks like a Krampus with the tail of a B-17 8)
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Hint?
It's not an F-35 :P
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Hint?
It's not an F-35 :P
I got it, I'm certain about it.. It's an F-35! 8)
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"Pre-prototype" of the SNCASO 4000 Vautour (second one, SO-M2, F-WFDR) ?
Regards
Edit : the real hint was that only a french mechanic could have stabilized that kind of plane with a trolley...
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I was sure it was French. Funny that nations really have a 'style'. For me it was the low position of the horizontal stabilizer which was telling. Though I haven't researched it as alexandre has done. :D
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alexandre is absolutely right, it's the Sud-Ouest (precisely: SNCASO) SO-M.2 scale model test aircraft for the SO.4000 experimental jet bomber.
There's been another unpowered glider scale testbed called "M.1" before which, interestingly, had been launched from the top of the only ever built and flown Heinkel He 274 4-engine high altitude bomber project aircraft derived from the He 177.
This is the M.1 mounted on the He 274:
(https://s27.postimg.cc/50p6ymy2r/som1.jpg)
And this is the final project, the SO.4000 "Vautour I":
(https://s27.postimg.cc/tsot5vf9f/so4000.jpg)
Wikipedia about it for thouse who are interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNCASO_SO.4000
And another good page about it, but in russian: http://www.airwar.ru/enc/xplane/so4000.html
Your turn alexandre! 8)
Best regards - Mike
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Thanks for the additional infos, really enjoying that thread for that.
An easy prey now, but worth being here maybe.
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/1/475/30894132603_500672a0d2_b.jpg)
Regards
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I feel like having a Déjà vu, in this particular case it seems like I've raised the very same quest almost exactly 3 years ago:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13294.msg425167.html#msg425167
That said, it's the SNECMA C.450 Coléoptère :)
Best regards - Mike
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Damn, I should get a forfeit for that :-[
I checked the type before in the custom search with no result... But not well enough it seems :-|
My bad, and your turn then
Regards
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No problem alexandre.
Since I know you love to be challanged, how about this one?
(https://s27.postimg.cc/mnheqmuer/quest.jpg)
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BP 111?
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Great, absolutely right!
Your turn :-)
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Well done, I was lost between the Durandal and some early Convair design :-X
That one was challenging indeed, nice pick.
Regards
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I was thinking Durandal, too, but the tail gave it away. Open house
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Open house
This should be fairly easy, albeit I must admit it's shopped:
(https://s24.postimg.cc/aow9u3ts5/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Swiss aircraft EFW N-20 Aiguillon... am I right ?
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You are damn close but it's not the Aiguillon.
The bird in question has just 60% the size of the Aiguillon.
Best regards - Mike
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I guess it's a typical 'kill stealing' what I do now :-[
http://www.tailsthroughtime.com/2015/03/the-n-20-program-switzerlands-first.html
(https://s24.postimg.cc/ta5140cx1/N20.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dbwbdviox/)
(https://s30.postimg.cc/8j9yqz6tt/n20b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mcybg0zf1/)
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I guess it's a typical 'kill stealing' what I do now
Not yet. So far it's just a link and two pictures ;)
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My mistake ! I thought first to EFW N-20.02 Arbalète, and came after on Aiguillon... so : EFW N-20.02 Arbalète !
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Now you're absolutely right Gaston :)
Your turn!
Best regards - Mike
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Thanks, Mike ! The Arbalète and Aiguillon are quite qell known here, in Switzerland ! And I must confess they had interesting design, quite advanced for their time !
OK.
What next ?
(https://s24.postimg.cc/m7ormn7s5/Quiquizz5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/io2twu529/)
What plane is this ?
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The Arbalète and Aiguillon are quite qell known here, in Switzerland ! And I must confess they had interesting design, quite advanced for their time !
Too advanced, that was the issue ;)
What plane is this ?
An extremely ugly one 8)
Looks like someone merged the cockpit of a 109 with the fuselage of a Morane, put an old BMW VI engine in front and attached wings from unknown source.
Best regards - Mike
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Pilatus P2-03 or 04 (I would say 04 because of the antenna mast) ?
Regards
Et vive la Suisse libre ;)
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Ah, now that you say so.
The cylinder exhaust order gives away that's an Hispano Suiza 12M type engine.
P2-04, indeed it seems to be that one.
Seems to be this picture, but Gaston used a mirrored version of the front:
(https://s27.postimg.cc/vlydh97qr/Photo_pilatus_056.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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That is it, guys ! I took same picture, resized it and mirrored it...
P2-04. Seems Alex had it first.
P-2 was interesting plane, still flying today. Used Bf-109 undercarriage.
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Hi all,
due to Christmas Eve I won't be able to post something before monday I think (sunday evening at best, GMT). So if you guys have anything on hand feel free to jump in.
Merry Christmas
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if you guys have anything on hand feel free to jump in.
An easy one for the xmas days:
(https://s28.postimg.cc/h6a4g4819/quest.jpg)
Merry X-Mas!
Mike
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British ?
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I'd love to be, but yes, the plane is, definitely 8)
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Short SB.5 ?
If I'm right, let's call it an open house, because I won't be around for some days.
Hope everyone had a merry Christmas.
Regards
Edit: the hint was very helpfull ;)
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Absolutely right Alex, congratulations.
If someone else has a quest, just step in, otherwise you guys can guess this one:
(https://s27.postimg.cc/cgie3wbib/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Mmmmmmh... already saw this... British, again, right ?
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Can't help but I love British planes :D
Yes, very British.
Best regards - Mike
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It's Blackburn, after the Firebrand, but I can't remember what it is. Did it use Firebrand parts?
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It's Blackburn, after the Firebrand
Yes that's right.
Did it use Firebrand parts?
That was the plan, but it turned out to be a complete redesign.
Hard to tell whether or not parts of the Firebrand could be used without modification.
Maybe the makeup mirror could.
Best regards - Mike
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Think i have a shared kill.
i put in google: Blackburn gull wing an it appears.
(https://s28.postimg.cc/4b9atfxvx/Blackburn_Firecrest.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/qn73mtwzt/)
is the Blackburn Firecrest!
http://www.axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?314
have a nice origami wing fold!
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Absolutely right locopiston, congratulations :)
Your turn ;)
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try this rare german bird:
(https://s24.postimg.cc/p2pw0ln11/guess9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6zwt9dr69/)
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I think it's from the same manufacturer like this one:
(https://s27.postimg.cc/g29ouv6qb/15622545_1365445543487186_3749467327505391074_n.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Oh yeah, I was waiting for this one to come up...
No effin' clue
Kitbash He-219/280 hoax?
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Not is the he-219 Uhu. Neither is He-280.
But in that same course there are many clues.
It can be an intelligence Hoax
It can be like Santa Claus.
It can have the DB604 engine
But the plane certain has a manufacturer's number and name.
(https://s27.postimg.cc/6cy8xtkzn/gues604.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/48dvwqjcv/)
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It's just a hoax, nothing less, nothing more.
That "He-279 Spirale" thing is just a bold allegation raised by someone on the internet who disappeared as quickly thereafter as he raised that hoax.
Nice Photoshop work though.
Best regards - Mike
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yes it is!
you turn Storebror!
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Open round gentlemen :)
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Open round ?
OK.
(https://s30.postimg.cc/yzyghnttd/Quiquizz6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uqtqfhqjx/)
In what plane are we sitting here ?
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Is it Russian?
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the image have an horizontal flip?!?!?!?
trim an acelerator at rigth???
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It´s a prototype of the Lockheed Martin F-35 "Lightning II" cockpit, for sure 8)
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It is Russian. Early prototype of F-35, which is a horrible copy of Russian plane, as everybody knows ! Naaaaa, I am joking. It is just Russian.
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Polikarpov I-16 ?
Regards
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Right, Alex !
(https://s29.postimg.cc/6j7egj3jr/I_16_cockpit.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4reflmk6r/)
Your turn !
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"POLI 45"... It required 45 turns to operate the gear... Must we use 45 keystrokes in the sim?... lol ;D
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It required 45 turns to operate the gear
Certainly not a good thing to be jumped on landing or take-off...
Happy hunting with this bird :
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/1/257/32014079716_81fae14377_z.jpg)
And a bonus one, related to the previous quest ;)
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/1/611/31212332314_1730e28184.jpg)
Regards
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"The Latécoère 299A that served as an engine testbed for the Arsenal VB 10. The 229A was powered by two 860 hp (641 kW) Hispano-Suiza 12Y V-12 engines, same as the VB 10-01 prototype. Note the front propeller is not turning and the German markings."
https://oldmachinepress.com/2012/09/
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=32859.0
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Yep, spot on, Sniperton.
The bonus is a french singer called Herbert Léonard, not so well known for writing also well documented books dealing with soviet planes (the I-16 in particular) :)
Regards
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In other words, he's a respected specialist author who is also known for singing 8)
This one should be fairly easy:
(https://s23.postimg.cc/6f45zcsuz/quest18.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hrgrh51jr/)
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That's definitely something for our newbies to solve ;)
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This one should be fairly easy:
That's definitely something for our newbies to solve ;)
I am that newbie! :P :P :P
Yes it was easy like Storebror alluded to!
This is a Curtiss XF14C-2 prototype, to fulfill a request by the US Navy for a better performance carrier fighter. It was a unusual design to say the least, with contra-rotating props and a liquid cooled engine. The Navy had previously required radial air cooled engines on all its aircraft.
It was eventually cancelled due to disappointing performance, limited availability of its engine, and simply the lack of need as the war drew to a close.
(https://s24.postimg.cc/ujzhszf9h/23_53n.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/k9x2tqpdt/)
(https://s23.postimg.cc/67bu80mbf/6a00d8341ca54753ef00e54f2ede328834_800wi.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qepa0bjsn/)
I was sure from first seeing it that it was an American prototype, and I had an good clue it looked like a Curtiss or Grumman, so I knew where to look! The longer outboard cannons gave it away.
Links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_XF14C (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_XF14C)
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=3970.0 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=3970.0)
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Excellent, your turn, Captain!
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Try this one. :P
(https://s27.postimg.cc/srqq73h83/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gd3y6rppr/)
Yes this is a real plane. Maybe a hard one? We'll see... :-|
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Caproni-Stipa, experiment with a ducted fan propulsion. The whole fuselage is a hollow tube with the propeller inside it.
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Believe or not, it did fly. Utterly amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ0ZQesixms
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OK then, what's this?
(https://images-03.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/215/836/176_001.jpg)
(it is related to a plane posted not long ago here)
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Caproni-Stipa, experiment with a ducted fan propulsion. The whole fuselage is a hollow tube with the propeller inside it.
Yes, you were correct! ;)
As for this one:
OK then, what's this?
(https://images-03.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/215/836/176_001.jpg)
(it is related to a plane posted not long ago here)
It is a AERFER Ariete, a Italian twin-turbojet prototype.
(https://s27.postimg.cc/6njs1zvz7/052.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4izf0wucf/)
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1504 (http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1504)
The AERFER Ariete swept-wing jet fighter was given additional boost power through a second, lower-thrust turbojet buried in its fuselage.
Interesting. :) Looks like a cool plane to fly!
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Open round chaps! Someone else can post I don't have time now. :(
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Yes, Aerfer Ariete is the correct answer.
The plane is a distant relative of Ambrosini SAI.207 posted earlier in this thread. The first stage in its development was fitting a jet engine onto a SAI.7 airframe (which, itself, was a two-seat trainer developed from SAI.207 via its improved variant SAI.403). The resulting Ambrosini Sagittario was then further developed, and end of the line was the Aerfer Ariete.
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Open round chaps!
:)
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one easy
(https://s28.postimg.cc/r0nrr11p9/guess12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/thziyalll/)
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one easy
Easy but niiiiiice!
Good choice :)
Best regards - Mike
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one hint:
Would be the ideal airplane to celebrate gay pride of the aeronautics industry
(https://s23.postimg.cc/m7xnhijdn/qq_rb8r.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/xka8zas2f/)
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A pride celebration with only two participants would be a bit of overdoing 8)
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I think our members are busy with getting above the turn of the year and getting up to date with BAT.
Let's bear with them and wait for others to chip in ;)
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An F-35?
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Which submodel?
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Republic XF-12 (or XR-12) Rainbow (of course...) ?
Regards
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yes!
you nailed alexandre!
is an xf-12 rainbow the bigest piston recon plane with 4 radial double wasp corn cob engine + supercharger.
you turn!
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Not too much inspired but time goes by so here we go...
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/1/440/31384084653_c340bd4f66_z.jpg)
Regards
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That is a Yakovlev UT-2
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Ryan recruit captured by the Hungarians?
good to know how them captured it from L.A.
LOL
(https://s28.postimg.cc/kcsbaqf0d/Ryan_PT_22_Recruit_N46502_OTT_2013_03.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7le548589/)
P51 wins for a second...
is a yakolev UT-2 by the Hungrians
(https://s30.postimg.cc/495mz6f3l/captured_Yacolev_UT2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j5466rqi5/)
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Try your hand at this one.
(https://s28.postimg.cc/5pwsaoskd/Quest.jpg)
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Yes, congrats to both of you.
A newly built UT-2 is flying since last october. It differs a little from a genuine UT-2 (new engine, compressed air circuit, brakes...), and hence officialy received the UT-2B deignation.
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/1/704/31839309580_1b8c4085d6_z.jpg)
Regards
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And well, maybe a Curtiss XP-60C ?
Regards
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Close, but not quite.
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Then maybe XP-60C/E or even Model 95C, other than that I don't see...
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You're sooooo close!
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Curtiss XP-62
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That is correct BK! Your turn!
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:))
no, it's your turn! ;)
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If this is a free-for-all, i have a good one:
(http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/AI/AI77-12/29-1.jpg)
What can you tell me about this bird? :)
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Hi all,
Don't want to start an argument or something but I have some doubt about the XP-62...
I'm far from being an expert so again, nothing rude here just to find an answer. My guess is backed by a few things : shape of the tail and the gear covers, and the serial number that we can notice (XP-60C was 279424). So I'm still wondering...
Here a picture labeled as a XP-62
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/1/701/31858362530_fb778cc704.jpg)
What do you think ?
Whatever arises let's keep going on with Radoye's quest
Regards
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Agreed alex, there's no doubt this cannot be an XP-62, if any other differentiation fails: Compare the gear covers.
It's XP-60C S/N 42-79424, period.
And Radoye's plane is one of the fascinating testbeds. I love them.
In particular the depicted plane is a Folland FO.108 (also known as Folland 43/37 according to the Air Ministry Specification also known as Folland Frightful or Folland Frightener (the latter was used when nearly half of the planes crashed during test flights)).
The plane was used as an engine testbed for the british aircraft industry in WW2, supporting engines with an output range up to 3000hp.
12 airframes have been built, the one shown here is P1775 equipped with a Bristol Hercules VIII with a power of 1550hp.
It was planned to be a testbed for the Bristol Hercules III high altitude engine planned to power the Vickers Wellington Mk.V, this engine was developed into the Bristol Hercules VIII and was later cancelled completely. P1775 then was allegedly converted to a Bristol Centaurus and test-flown with that engine between August 1943 and July 1944, but this is undocumented.
The next known fact about it is that it has crashed on 18 September 1944 and got disbanded three days later, therefore it has been scrapped.
Best regards - Mike
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In particular...
And, of course, this is absolutely correct! I didn't expect any less, i must admit that when i chose the Fo,108 i was thinking of you and your afinity towards rare British birds! :)
Your turn.
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Not sure whether we had this one already, but anyway, let's give it a try:
(https://s24.postimg.cc/fkecypkb9/quest_2017_01_11.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Sussed it....It,s an early version of a Mk 1 SpaceX re-usable booster...
No doubt designed by an ancestor of Elon Musk @1950.. :) :) :) :)
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Remember saying this in old TV documentary... isn't it French ?
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isn't it French ?
Sure it is, looks like a frog on steroids 8)
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you could NOT pay me to strap in atop that thing......
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Snecma Atar volant C400 P2 ? (;))
Basically a jet engine with an open cockpit at the top of it... And it even flew :o
Regards
Edit (could not resist) :
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/642/32215709626_1c398c2a7f_b.jpg)
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Well, at least there is a railing unlike on the Death Star...
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Snecma Atar volant C400 P2 ?
Spot on, your turn :)
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AAAAAHAHAHAHHA!
It´s a sofa with a rocket under it ! :D That is one CRAAAZY invention.
I think those guys might have found the secret WW2 Blueprints of the Heinkel "Lerche" and wanted
to build their own version.
This is fascinating. I never knew about this invention, and it flew!
(http://jpcolliat.free.fr/xfv1/c450-1/c400_03.jpg)
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Something a little different this time
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/345/31893100900_ec2e29d93b_b.jpg)
Regards
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An F-35 8)
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Not quite :) but that plane was not far from being considered as a waste of money too...
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Gotta be a Republic Seabee - postwar sales didn't quite live up to expectations
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That's right Mexchiwa, congratulations :)
Some are still flying today (even operated by charter companies) and are well sought after...
It was also popular in movies due to its unique look, there is a website listing all its appearance, it's called "republic seabee in movies" (of course) and it's worth a visit http://www.seabee.info/seabee_movies.htm (http://www.seabee.info/seabee_movies.htm)
Regards
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Open house
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Since it's open house, I'll contribute.
(http://i.imgur.com/KG35G8q.jpg)
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Deutsches Museum, Munich (neat airport, not in the center), am I right ?
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Deutsches Museum, Munich (neat airport, not in the center), am I right ?
I think so, not sure. Not my pic.
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It could have been the first spanish jet fighter, but...
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Nope... Egypt ! Willy's work !
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Ha 300
Benno
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Benno is correct. It is the Helwan HA-300.
It was designed by the famous German aircraft designer Willy Messerschmidt and developed in Egypt during the 1960s.
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Stalled again?
Let's go on, what's this:
(https://s28.postimg.cc/lpz1ufbm5/quest.jpg)
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Mig KSK ? Manned version of the cruise missile KS-1 Kometa ?
That one is pretty obscure to say the least, I'm not even sure of its exact designation! Any additional infos will be welcome.
Regards
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Absolutely correct Alexandre, congratulations, your turn!
Since you've asked for background information, here it is.
The KS-1/KSK manned "Kometa" was a side product of the guidance test platform "MiG-9L / FK", closing the gap between that guidance testbed and the final unmanned "Kometa".
From "Soviet X-Planes", Yefim Gordon & Bill Gunston, published in 2000 by Midland Publishing, ISBN 1 85780 099 0
MIG-9L, FK
Purpose: To test the guidance system of a cruise missile.
Design Bureau: OKB-155 of AI Mikoyan.
In late 1947 the Kremlin ordered the development of a large cruise missile which could be launched (primarily against ships) from the Tu-4. Because of the importance of this project it was assigned to a joint team formed by OKB No 155 (MiG) and a new semi-political group called SB-1 (Special Bureau Nol). The OKB assigned one of the founders, M I Gurevich, as titular head, but the Chief Designer was A Ya Bereznyak who has figured previously on page 29 of this book. Head of SB-1 was S L Beria, son of the formidable Politburo member who in 1953 succeeded Stalin. In fact, SB-1 faded from the scene, as it had little to contribute, though it did have P N Kusenko as Chief Designer. Under intense pressure a swept-wing turbojet-engined missile was created, which later went into production as the KS-1 Komet. In early 1949 its guidance system was tested in an Li-2 (Soviet derivative of the DC-3), and later in that year a more representative system was tested in the FK (also called MiG-9L, Laboratoriya). This was too large to be carried aloft by a Tu-4, so it formated with the Tu-4 parent aircraft and thence simulated the missile on its flight to the target. Subsequently this aircraft was used to test different cruise-missile guidance systems, assisted by the K-l, a manned version of the KS-1 missile.
Aircraft FK was a modified MiG-9 twin-jet fighter, the first type of turbojet aircraft to fly in the Soviet Union. Features included a straight-tapered wing of laminar profile of 9% thickness with large slotted flaps and Frise ailerons, a pressurized cockpit ahead of the wing, a ground-adjustable tailplane mounted part-way up the fin, a nosewheel retracting forwards and main landing gears retracting outwards, and a nose inlet feeding air to two RD-20 turbojets (Soviet copies of the German BMW 003A, each rated at 800kg, l,7641b, thrust) mounted under the wing with jet nozzles under the trailing edge. The final production series had an ejection-seat, and the FK was from this batch. The heavy nose armament of three NS-23K guns and all armour were removed, and the fuselage was extended by splicing in an extra section accommodating an unpressurized rear cockpit with a side-hinged canopy for the guidance-system operator. As in the Komet, the missile's radar dish antenna was mounted above the nose, and a receiver antenna was mounted on the leading edge of each wing. Above the fin was a streamlined container housing the aft-facing transmitter and receiver antennas for the radio-command guidance from the parent aircraft after launch. Once the autopilot had set the correct course the nose radar homed on the parent's radar signals reflected back from the target. Nearer the target the missile's own radar became active, steering by signals received by the leading-edge antennas.
So far as is known, the FK played a valuable role in the development of one of the world's first turbojet cruise missiles. So did the KSK, a piloted version of the missile itself.
Best regards - Mike
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Thanks for the infos! At one moment I was a bit confused about what was what. The path to find that one was rewarding :)
I will try to post something tomorrow (GMT).
Regards
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I am freezing, so let's stay frozen...
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/349/32136523420_6975001518_c.jpg)
Regards
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If no one else volunteers, it's a Lavochkin La-174TK from 1948.
http://www.aviastar.org/air/russia/la-174tk.php
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Sounds reasonable, let's wait for Alex' opinion :)
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Sniperton is perfectly right !
I really like these early russian jet design.
Regards
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Yep, it looks like a pregnant V-1 with cockpit ;)
What about this?
(https://s27.postimg.cc/url2yy11f/quest20.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/m9bmuluin/)
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What about this?
I dunno what it is, but it's obviously a Curtiss prototype, likely between XP-46 and -60...
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What about this?
It's the Avia B.35 fighter built in Czechoslovakia in 1938 ; I remember having seen the B.135, some improved version with metal wings, here in an old thread : https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13659.0.html.
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It's not the Avia, even though it shows up on certain websites as such. B.35 had a two-blade propeller, the shape of the radiator intake is all wrong, and also the cockpit.
I'm not sure what it is, but if you compare this one photo of "Avia" with any other known photos of either B.35 or B.135 the differences are obvious.
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What about this?
I dunno what it is, but it's obviously a Curtiss prototype, likely between XP-46 and -60...
LOL I think I'm going blind! I could have sworn the black letters on the fuselage said Curtiss! Whyever... *Squinting* yes, it says Avia on the side. :P
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My intention was to show an Avia B.35, but I looked for a photo where the insignia didn't betray the country of origin.
I came across to this one which is claimed to depict a 1:1 scale model e.g. here: http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/b35.html
I myself am not completely sure what the heck is it, but I tend to accept that this is really a pre-prototype wooden model. Hence the three-blade prop and the somewhat different formal features that Radoye observed.
All in all, I think all of you guys are right: it was intended as an Avia B.35 (Gatrasz), it is significantly different from any built Avia B.35 (Radoye), and it is significantly similar to a Curtiss prototype (Cpt. Dawson). If anyone knows the truth, please tell me. Till then the baton goes to Gatrasz.
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I confess that I noticed some différences but it looked like a kind of 'transition' version to me... Anyway, I could have been abused by some wrong photos, let's solve this mystery in the mystery ;-)
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If anyone knows the truth, please tell me.
The simple truth is: It's a wooden mockup of the Avia 35.
(https://s30.postimg.cc/auvrvu4kh/Avia_35_Mockup.jpg)
(https://s30.postimg.cc/h60zc95sx/Avia_35_Mockup_2.jpg)
(https://s30.postimg.cc/imchue8pt/Avia_35_Mockup_3.jpg)
(https://s27.postimg.cc/bq50hjfjn/Avia_35_Mockup_4.jpg)
Quote from "Avia B-35 B-135" by Miroslav Bily, Denes Bernad and Pavel Kucera, MBI (R) 2003, ISBN 80-86524-03-5:
The full-scale B-35 mock-up was to prove a big surprise to the visitors of the National Air Exhibition in Prague.
The public could see for the first time the mock-up of a shapely new low-winged fighter with an elliptical wing and enclosed cockpit. The fighter even had the undercarriage "vanished" in a retracted position and its refined shape could easily compete with the best that other European manufacturers could offer.
A noteworthy feature was the narrow, slot-type, intake to the large liquid radiator, located in the chin under the engine.
Albeit the information panel listed the Hispano Suiza HS-12-lOOOY of 736 kW (1,000 HP) as the planned powerplant and a maximum speed of 570 km/h, the reality was somewhat less impressive.
The engine was still in the development stage at this time, bench testing only taking place after the German occupation of the rest of a mutilated Czechoslovakia. The same fate beset too the retractable undercarriage.
During the actual construction of the first prototype, commencing in late 1937, a number of design changes from the original plans took place.
First and foremost, the considerably less powerful, regular series-built Avia/HS 12Ydrs engine of only 633 kW (860 HP) output was used. It turned a two-bladed airscrew and had a regular "wide mouthed" liquid cooled radiator in the chin, which, however, did not diminish the elegance of the fighter. The original cleaner-looking narrow-slit arrangement shown on the mock-up proved inefficient in tests.
Another difference was the fixed undercarriage, as the mechanism for the planned retracting undercarriage was not yet available.
Following the French experience with "armoured plywood", plywood with 0.2 mm thick aluminium sheeting bonded to its external surface was used for the wing, vertical fin and horizontal stabiliser skinning. The aerodynamic controls were of metal internal structure and fabric covering, similar to the ones used on the Avia B-534.
The fuselage was of the characteristic Warren truss structure, riveted and bolted together from steel tubes. This truss was covered right behind the cockpit with detachable elektron panels, as was the tail section around the empennage. Contrary to the original plans and popular belief, the fuselage behind the cockpit hood was not covered in plywood or in fabric doped taut over the wooden formers (as used on the B-534), but of detachable light alloy panels, reinforced on the inside with longitudinal and cross stiffeners and stringers.
Best regards - Mike
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Thanks Mike for the info!
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Thanks Mike for the info!
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Okay, thank you for the informations ! I was actually thinking about some wind-tunnel early model, because of the more 'rounded' sape of the radiator/air intake, absence of the main landing gear, and because of the more open configuration of the cockpit on the series production aircraft. By the way, most of the websites I saw were not only wrong but unable to decide if it was Avia B.35-1 ou B.35-2, as it's none of them :D
So, for me it's like 50/50. Rematch ? ;)
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this thread is more quiet than dead sea...
let relive with one easy.
what is this bird?
(https://s30.postimg.cc/x5pk88gq9/gues_58.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f2whh0kvh/)
is the younger brother to this one.
(https://s30.postimg.cc/y7hicyc01/fw_187.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9qzcihb99/)
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is it argentina ground attack aircraft. pucarra...cant remember exact name...kev
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Yes is te FMA IA 58 Pucará
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMA_IA_58_Pucar%C3%A1
Made with sketches that I leave kurt tank based on FW 187 falke
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you turn Baggo!
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thanks but I haven't got anything at the minute....open house.kev
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open house
Here we go:
(https://s27.postimg.cc/udf1rs4qb/quest_2017_02_03.jpg)
Good luck 8)
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French perhaps?
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No sorry, no frogs.
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The Tupolev Tu-91 (NATO reporting name Boot) was a Soviet naval attack aircraft. It was only built in prototype form, and cancelled after Joseph Stalin's death.
(https://s26.postimg.cc/6b6r6y4eh/tu91tu4.jpg)
cheers mace
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(http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/8a/d2b5d9b1c29718d4ede0f24e3023e7b7ea47cf_lq/Tu-91_44.jpg) (http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/fun/m0137.gif) (http://yoursmiles.org/m-fun.php)
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True that, your turn mace!
Cheers!
Best regards - Mike
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This stylish seaplane is?
(https://s26.postimg.cc/6mo7jpkuh/unknown.jpg)
cheers mace
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some sea variant of caproni ca.311?
(https://s24.postimg.cc/v19sl1hc5/ca311.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5ihg80xs1/)
(https://s24.postimg.cc/6ysyq60p1/Caproni_Ca311_plan.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/yyx2ag45d/)
???????
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Dear Storebror,
No sorry, no frogs.
Shouldn't you use French instead of frogs?
Best regards.
Tart
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Shouldn't you use French instead of frogs?
French frogs? I'm a Kraut, I take it all ;)
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French frogs? I'm a Kraut, I take it all ;)
As a frog myself, I totally agree :D
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are you talking about this?????
(https://s27.postimg.cc/dtidllftv/Luna_m_frog_7_hameenlinna_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lm91dklsv/)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K52_Luna-M
:D
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locopiston, a good guess on the aircraft's heritage. It was a Caproni Ca.316, a reconnaissance seaplane produced in Italy during World War II, intended for catapult operations from Italian Navy capital ships.
cheers mace
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tanks mace!
gues this one
(https://s28.postimg.cc/rcpds9ood/guess_6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3yhegc6qx/)
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XP-67?
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F-35!
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Yes! F-35B.A.T. .... also know as: mc donnel XP-67 Moonbat
superfast answer!
(https://s23.postimg.cc/g9qktab3v/mcdonnell_xp_67.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/k63wp9w3b/)
(https://s23.postimg.cc/bp8zs3gsb/XP_67_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4ysiintmf/)
The plane for the dark knigt of Gotam city
You turn Bombsaway! ;)
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(https://s29.postimg.cc/4g4seg16v/Fairchild_C120.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6kp5fj2tf/)image upload no limit (https://postimage.org/)
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is the fairchild XC-120 Packplane.
(https://s24.postimg.cc/of7waezwl/fairchild_XC_120.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cq3wmg8xt/)
(https://s24.postimg.cc/bp3nxbryd/XC_120_Packplane_composite.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/flgztbcxt/)
https://youtu.be/rjgxiXxu3nY (https://youtu.be/rjgxiXxu3nY)
Son of Fairchild C-87 paket
(https://s29.postimg.cc/m4uaz73rr/c82_paked.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b593nldcj/)
and brother of Fairchild C-119 Boxcar.
(https://s24.postimg.cc/iacknr21h/AC_119.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6l8kzsb2p/)
A cargo plane with changeables cargo bay.
Regards!
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Your right. :)
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What is the name of this chubby?
(https://s23.postimg.cc/oh42jzb17/guess5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/n22hv99xz/)
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YB-19 ????
Benno
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Boeing XB-15, the only prototype converted to transport and named "Grandpappy".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_XB-15
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F-35? :o
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F-35? :o
/slap
That's my guess!
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Yes sniperton is the XB-15 converted on XC-15 grandpapy.
You turn!
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This one should be easy :D A real beauty ;)
(https://s28.postimg.cc/dz5zlxvb1/quest21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/sv4itj6pl/)
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Wow, interesting! The nose is strongly reminiscent of my uncle Isaac... :D
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I don't even know what it is but...I already love this plane !
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As long as it doesnt sneeze we're ok. :)
Ah! Early drug sniffing airplane. The beginnings of the DEA. LOL
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That's a Short Sturgeon torpedo bomber.
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Fairly close, but not fully correct. The Short Sturgeon had a long development history, this one representing the final stage, when it was re-designed as an ASW aircraft (S.B.3), where the "major modification was the grafting on of a gigantic bulbous nose that housed two radar operators in stations forward of the engines and the radar itself, below". For comparison, a "normal" Sturgeon looked like this:
(https://s10.postimg.cc/o03gwqye1/sturgeonphoto_214.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j1fyi7ul1/)
Anyway, the baton goes to HotelAlpha :)
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WOW, I never seen that aircraft before.
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(https://s12.postimg.cc/xe66ostpp/where_are_my_plane_to_guess.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/z5z5jpd2h/)
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Looks like it's open round according to the rules again.
Guess this one:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/smhs1trpn/quest_2017_02_13.jpg)
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A really hard one o_O
This led me to study.
Begins by following the track of some prototype of the SU-7 ... None has the wings in delta. :(
I thought it could be a prototype prototype model of MiG-21 ... but none have that tail and drop cokpit. :(
I finally found the Yak-1000 :D
(https://s3.postimg.cc/a77i9z7jn/yak_1000_34.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kh9x97xf3/)
(https://s11.postimg.cc/4fpg0ntqr/yak_1000.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/vqar8kwnj/)
Regards!
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Well done locopiston, you nailed it - your turn :)
Best regards - Mike
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tanks mike!
gues this
(https://s14.postimg.cc/xtkten935/guess_14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/d9fzg5tbx/)
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Bell YFM-1 Airacuda heavy interceptor.
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I know this one .. I think ... ;)
Bell XFM-1 Airacuda
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yes! it is the YFM-1 airacuda.
A heavy fighter. The gunners could aim from their rare wing front turrets like an sniper.
Is the only fighter slower than the bombers that I know.
the first answer was Radoye
you turn to post a rare bird now!
Cheers!
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OK howsabout this?
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--4qsezPjK--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1439338619482245447.jpg)
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The V-326
In 1943 Vought aircraft, makers of the legendary Corsair, were asked to build a test bed aircraft featuring the same engine and straight wings while utilizing a number of common structural elements. The intent was to test the Corsair’s mighty R-4360 engine mated with a turbosupercharger
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--K8PIdzVn--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/yixxzcu5lffvxah3albt.jpg)
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Correct. Your turn! :)
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(https://s4.postimg.cc/b3gxrwwct/00_Test6.jpg)
;)
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It's the Payen PA-22.
Nice deceiving picture... ;)
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The original design called for an early form of ramjet (known as the Melot 1R engine). When this was unavailable, Nicolas Roland Payen redesigned the aircraft around a 180 hp Regnier 6B-01 six-cylinder, air-cooled inverted in-line engine. It was completed in 1939, but before Payen had finished ground tests the Germans invaded France and confiscated it. The German occupation forces re-painted and coded it as BI+XB. In October 1942 Payen's test pilot Jacques Charpantier, completed the first flight. Payen then convinced the German authorities that modifications were necessary and returned the prototype to his factory at Juvisy, however, in 1943 an Allied air raid on an adjacent railway yard hit the factory, destroying the aircraft.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Payen_PA-22_aircraft_WW2.png/1024px-Payen_PA-22_aircraft_WW2.png)
Well done, your turn.
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Thank you!
Since I'm a new member, though, and can't yet post links, I'm declaring an open round!
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Gianky:
You can post three more times any text. Then post the image.
After image is posted, delete the text posts.
That was i do the first time. ;D
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i can't resist an open house
guess this!
(https://s27.postimg.cc/70et85rtv/guess15.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ak0qxyujj/)
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Is this a Curtiss XF15C ?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8290/7881246140_bb2e632857_b.jpg)
The Curtiss XF15C was a mixed-propulsion prototype Naval fighter that was powered by a Pratt & Whitney R-2800-34W 18-cylinder radial in the front (the same engine used in the P-47 Thunderbolt, F4U Corsair and F6F Hellcat) and an Allis-Chalmers J36 turbojet in the rear. It first flew in February 1945 and three prototypes were built. The first airframe was lost to a landing accident, the second was scrapped, and the third resides at the Quonset Air Museum in Rhode Island.
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--9UVzLrpF--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1251924939377657258.jpg)
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Exact!
You have good info!
You turn SAS~GJE52!
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That's a beautiful Aircraft!
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Gianky:
You can post three more times any text. Then post the image.
After image is posted, delete the text posts.
That was i do the first time. ;D
You, sir, have a delightfully devious mind! Are you by any chance a lawyer? :D
Anyway, this is the third post, I just need two more, I think I'll simply try to guess a couple more airplanes!
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i'm even worse than lawyer... im an architect... :-[
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this is the third post, I just need two more
I've applied a cheat for you ;)
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this is the third post, I just need two more
I've applied a cheat for you ;)
Thank you, kind sir!
And given that 24 hours have passed since last answer, I'm taking the baton back!
What is this?
(https://s31.postimg.cc/6qd6jtrq3/Mistery_plane.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bc9as6d93/)
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Ansaldo AC2 ?
In 1925 the Italian government acquired a Dewoitine D.1 and were impressed enough to then acquire a production license to allow Ansaldo & Co. to manufacture a slightly modified version for the recently established Regia Aeronautica.
This version was named Ansaldo AC.2 . (Ansaldo-Caccia 2)
(http://www.cmpr.it/Ansaldo-%20di%20M.Salvo/AC2Bonomi.jpg)
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(https://s9.postimg.cc/zf1k3la73/00_Test7.jpg)
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Ansaldo AC2 ?
In 1925 the Italian government acquired a Dewoitine D.1 and were impressed enough to then acquire a production license to allow Ansaldo & Co. to manufacture a slightly modified version for the recently established Regia Aeronautica.
This version was named Ansaldo AC.2 . (Ansaldo-Caccia 2)
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We have a winner!
Is yours the Handley Page HP. 75?
EDIT: corrected grammar.
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(https://s14.postimg.cc/kdbsiwpip/handley_page_hp75_manx_1.jpg)
The H.P. 75 Manx was a British experimental aircraft designed by Handley Page that flew test flights in the early 1940s. It was notable for its unconventional design characteristics, being a twin-engine tailless design of pusher configuration.
Yes, your turn ..... ;)
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I believe it won't be very hard to guess, but...
tell the name of this flying condo, gents! :D
(https://s9.postimg.cc/d458ss7rz/Flyingcondominium2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qxtlhu0d7/)
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I know this monstrosity, but I won't spoil the fun.
It actually crashed on its maiden flight, having reached an altitude of 18 metres
(https://s24.postimg.cc/l0iota65h/00_Test8.jpg)
...... the pilot survived the experience though.... :D :D :D
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Yeah, not one of the best moment for aviation! ;D
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Caproni Ca.60.
(https://s16.postimg.cc/bwglom25h/caproni_ca60_transaereo_05_665x476.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/sk83r3wwx/)
Yeah, it was a flop. But it just looks so cool! Apparently Caproni didn't realize that it takes more than just adding wings and engines to make a bigger plane.
The only thing more impressive than this plane's looks is the fact that it even flew in the first place.
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I think "Fly" is a bit of an exaggeration ... "Controlled Crash" is more apt.
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It did crash, but 18 feet is perhaps enough to be considered "flying". (In their minds anyways. It left the water. So you could say it "flew" in only for a few seconds.) :)
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I think "Fly" is a bit of an exaggeration ... "Controlled Crash" is more apt.
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Actually, according to Wikipedia (I know, not an infallible source), it flew twice, crashing in the second flight. ;)
Captain Dawson, your turn!
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I'm gonna be honest here, I have a sneaking suspicion, but I don't know exactly what this is. It's pretty much destroyed, so maybe this one will be a bit harder to guess.
From first glance, it looks like a Me-323, but this is smaller and has two-bladed props.
(https://s32.postimg.cc/j2whbt979/69559fd78276fafc0d84a50dbf4b31db.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lwzmp9bdd/)
If you know exactly what this is, you win.
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Actually, I believe it is a Me 323, this one (http://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/germany/aircrafts-2/me-323-gigant/wreckage-of-the-messerschmitt-me-323-d-2/), to be precise.
D2 variant had Gnome and Rhone engines with 2 bladed propellers.
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Actually, I believe it is a Me 323, this one (http://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/germany/aircrafts-2/me-323-gigant/wreckage-of-the-messerschmitt-me-323-d-2/), to be precise.
D2 variant had Gnome and Rhone engines with 2 bladed propellers.
The props seem to match. I think your answer is correct! Your turn! :)
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Ok, let's try this one:
(https://s32.postimg.cc/l0qxv862d/b2445bd24a71607d0b27075663daf113f14535f6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6ub6zzv75/)
I smudged the writings on the aircraft.
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Looks like a larger version of one I posted a few pages back.
This is Alexander Lippisch's Aerodyne, unsmudged.
(https://s13.postimg.cc/yxcqw941j/18ca58wblfns3jpg.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ed7wxroab/)
One problem. Where does the pilot sit? :o
Open round. :)
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It was an unmanned life-size model used for aerodynamic testing. It never actually flew. It was designed as a VTOL and had no wings at all, so the similarity to the Stipa-Caproni is only superficial.
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Someone says open house?
guess this!
(https://s2.postimg.cc/v3td5dihl/guess_A_wing.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r7g19dxhx/)
is the antecessor of this hollywood spacecraft
(https://s21.postimg.cc/6clxppsaf/RZ_1_A_Wing_class_Interceptor.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5abr769gz/)
i make some little of photoshop, if not is too easy. ;D
Regards!
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That's still easy enough for me loco, thanks a lot :)
It's the single Saab 210 "Lilldraken", a scaled down testbed for the J 35 Draken fighter.
It was deemed necessary for the revolutionary double-delta concept being used by the Draken - engineers were supposed to need test data before being able to pull this stunt in full scale.
Best regards - Mike
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Looks like a larger version of one I posted a few pages back.
This is Alexander Lippisch's Aerodyne, unsmudged.
One problem. Where does the pilot sit? :o
Sorry, guys, didn't read all of the hundred pages that you posted before my arrival! And, clearly, the pilot was meant to sit prone inside the propeller shaft! ;D
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You are right Mike!
but not the single...
(https://s3.postimg.cc/550jpij2r/avj35_2.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/at6ugenf3/)
that was a saab 210A
i know that is easy, because that was waste one hour in photoshop! :-[
about 5 min in plane and 55 min in rebel pilot. :D
Regards!
your turn!
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Thanks loco, but...
but not the single...
... it is the ...
single Saab 210 "Lilldraken"
... which started it's life in the "Saab 210A" layout and was later modified to the "Saab 210B" layout which was closer to the final product.
But it's the same plane, the single one existing.
Nevertheless, something simple for the meantime:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/jns7vw3i9/quest_2017_02_20.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/54l2uhad9/)
Best regards - Mike
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The IL-28?
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Close, but no cigar :D
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IL-30!
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IL-30!
^^ That guy is so damn right, he deserves to have the next turn 8)
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That guy is so damn right, he deserves to have the next turn 8)
As we say it in germany: A blind chicken sometimes finds some grain too. ;D
Alright, here is another plane easy to detect, i guess:
(http://www.team-kehr.de/link_dateien/plane.jpg)
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I initially thought it was the 155, but the paint scheme could be the give away ...Is this the ....
Marcel Bloch MB 157
With German forces closing in on Paris, the M.B.157 components were loaded to be taken to a place of security but, en route, this vehicle was intercepted by the Germans and ordered to proceed to an SNCASO establishment within the occupied zone.
Finally, in 1942, the M.B.157 was assembled and test flown under German supervision, demonstrating superb performance before being flown to Orly where the powerplant was removed for wind-tunnel testing. This was the most interesting feature so far as the Germans were concerned, and after tests had been completed the engine was transported to Germany. SNCASO's air-frame, which had demonstrated in conjunction with Gnome-Rhone 14R a degree of performance that was not to be attained elsewhere until later in the war, was destroyed during an Allied air raid.
(http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/france/bloch_mb-157.jpg)
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I initially thought it was the 155
That would be right. (https://www.warbirdsforum.com/topic/1512-got-the-bloch-mb-155-157-700/)
Let's say, you did it. Congrats, it's your turn.
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Ok as I was only partially correct, I will declare "open house" and throw it open.
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open house
I'm glad to pick up the baton 8)
Guess this one:
(https://s15.postimg.cc/aa4iw82fv/quest_2017_02_21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lmh4e0b4n/)
Best regards - Mike
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First (?) prototype of the Blackburn B-54 (YA7?). The competition for a carrier-borne ASW and strike aircraft was finally won by another fat fella, the Fairey Gannet.
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Spot on sniperton, it's indeed the YA.7 version of the B-54.
Your turn :-)
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I hope we haven't had this yet. Note that it's real, not just a frankenplane by a drunken modder. ;)
(https://s21.postimg.cc/m9z59xniv/quest22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mmqjg45sj/)
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Looks like Germany near the end of the war was making planes with whatever they could find. :)
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Looks like it's supposed to fly backwards 8)
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But this one is French, I think...
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But this one is French, I think...
Yep, 1940 was the same to France as was 1944 to Germany. Last minute :D
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Ooooh, come on, guys, just say it!
Arsenal - Delanne 10 C.
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Excellent! ;D Your turn
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Here you are! 70+ years and still flying (right where I do :) )!
(https://s3.postimg.cc/fwgv4vpub/Guess_what_I_am.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r8tgmnyj3/)
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Is it ....
Italian Equity Vercellese Industries Aviation (AVIA)
L 'AVIA L.3
(https://gavstorino.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/a-v-i-a-l-3.jpg?w=1200&h=&crop=1)
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With those R.A. roundels it looks like italian Volkssturm on wings 8)
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Correct, GJ52! (Just a minor nitpick: the correct designation is FL.3 ;) )
The example in the picture was manifactured in 1941, it still has its original CNA D.4 60hp engine. The owner (a former Italian Air Force fighter pilot) has another "warbird", a 1944 Piper L-4 from US military surplus.
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.... the correct designation is FL.3
.. close but no cigar then .... :(
Darn it ... so I guess I will have to throw it open... :P and declare "open house" once more...
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Naaah, as I said, just a minor nitpick!
Go, if you want!
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What about this then?
(https://s23.postimg.cc/jsn0u5e6z/hmm.jpg)
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(http://www.europe-miniatures.com/new-ray/new-ray-48993.jpg)
Yes ? can you work it out ? ....... The clue is in the name, if I am not mistaken .......
;)
...... VESPA PIAGGIO P150 ........ :D :D :D :D
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Absolutely!
Pretty little thing isn't it? I'd love to go hopping around in that plane.
GJE, your turn.
Cheers!
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Ok,
Here is an easy one ...... hence the rough photograph .. ;)
(https://s21.postimg.cc/xjdsvujhz/00_Test9.jpg)
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Easy thing, it's a slightly reworked Hawker Hurricane.
I spot my beloved Hurri at first glance!
Slightly different Wings, Fuselage, Tail section, the engine has been swapped and the gears are modded, but other than that only the cockpit doesn't match.
Best regards - Mike
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Heinkel He-119 landplane
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Hurricane ....... ?
I don't know what you are putting in your coffee these days ... but I'll have one too ..... ;)
Yes of course it is the very sleek looking He-119 landplane ... even more correct, because there also was a floatplane version, but sadly neither were put into production...
(https://oldmachinepress.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/heinkel-he-119-v3-side.jpg)
Ok, have a cigar ... it's your turn.
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One that's close to my heart and my home
Have fun!
please don't cheat with the info on the bottom of the photo
(https://s17.postimg.cc/unizbd1db/WETS.jpg)
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No need to cheat, I've been in the german Navy for 9 years and have seen a couple of these, albeit not in use by the polish, but the U.S. Navy (poland aquired these helis when I've left the navy already).
It's a Kaman SH-2G Super Seasprite and as stated already, it belongs to the polish navy.
Poland purchased two US Navy missile frigates of the Oliver Hazard Perry class in 1999.
In 2001, four SH-2G were bought from the US Navy stock, they were introduced into polish service in 2002-2003, after having server in the US Navy since 1992/93.
Best regards - Mike
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Very good Mike! That is absolutely correct!
These beautiful babies were produced about ten miles from my house and every weekend I get to sit in one.
Cheers!
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every weekend I get to sit in one
...in the museum?
Anyway, next quest:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/sxca08aaj/quest_2017_02_22.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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If I am correct, this is a Russian plane... not a bi-plane... not a mono-plane... a bit of the 2... depends if on the ground or not...
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I initially thought it was one of the Polikarpov i-5 or i-6 variants :-|
but I think it could be a Nikitin IS1 (as the IS2 was similar but had slightly different undercarriage doors)
IS2
(http://ram-home.com/ram-old/is-2-thomasheintz.jpg)
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Hurricane ....... ?
I don't know what you are putting in your coffee these days ... but I'll have one too ..... ;)
Well,at least he didn't say it was a swedish Hurricane.... :D
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The time I look in one of my books, and you got it, I think, GJE52... IS1, I think too... but you got it first !
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It could be ........ but this is Mike don't forget and he is a devious SOB........ ;)
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it could be a Nikitin IS1
In fact it is :)
Some information about this unusual plane - it has a foldable lower wing! from "Soviet X-Planes" by Yefim Gordon and Bill Gunston, Midland Publishing (C) 2000 - ISBN 1 85780 099 0
Nikitin-Shevchenko IS-1
Purpose: To create a fighter able to fly as a biplane or monoplane.
Design Bureau: OKB-30, Chief Designer Vladimir Vasiloyevich Shevchenko.
There is some dispute over who was responsible for the experimental IS fighters. Generally ascribed to Vladimir Vasilyevich Nikitin, in more recent accounts he is hardly mentioned and all credit is given to Shevchenko who is quoted as saying 'IS stands for Iosif Stalin'.
In fact, though the conception was indeed Shevchenko's, he was an NII WS test pilot who was occasionally employed by Nikitin. Design of the IS series was carried out in partnership with Nikitin, and IS actually meant Istrebitel Skladnoi, folding fighter.
Surprisingly, it was also given the official GUAP designation I-220, even though this was also allocated to a high altitude MiG fighter.
The idea was that the aircraft should take off as a biplane, with a short run, and then fold up the lower wing underneath the upper wing in order to reach high speed as a monoplane. Shevchenko promoted the idea in November 1938, getting an enthusiastic response, and therefore in 1939 demonstrated a detailed working model built at the Moscow Aviatekhnikum (MAT). His project captivated Stalin and Beria, who wanted the aircraft flying in time for the October Revolution parade in November 1939. Shevchenko was given 76 million roubles and facilities at Factory No 156, while the OKB-30 design team eventually numbered 60.
The IS-1 was first flown by Vladimir Kuleshov on 29th May 1940, and the lower wings were first folded by G. M. Shiyanovon on 21st June 1940.
Shevchenko states that Shiyanov carried out LII testing and completed his report on 9th January 1941. According to Shevchenko, glowing accounts were also written by such famous test pilots as Suprun and Grinchik. In fact, Shavrov records that 'State tests were considered unnecessary, as the maximum speed was only 453km/h'. As it was so much slower than the LaGG, MiG and Yak fighters, this aircraft was put into storage after the German invasion, together with the IS-2.
As far as possible the IS-1 resembled the existing production fighter, the I-153. It had the same 900hp M-63 engine, driving a Hamilton VISh propeller of 2.8m (9ft 2in) diameter, and apart from the extra 'wing fold' lever the cockpits were identical. The airframe was allmetal, the fuselage framework being welded SOKhGSA steel tube, with removable metal panels to the front of the cockpit and fabric aft, while each wing had similar construction for the two spars, but DIG light-alloy ribs and flush-riveted DIG skins. The tail was DIG with fabric covering. After take-off the pilot selected 'chassis up', folding the main landing gears inwards by the 60-ata (882 lb/in²) pneumatic system. He could then select 'wing fold', whereupon a pneumatic ram and hinged levers on each side folded the lower wing. The inboard half was then recessed into the fuselage and the hinged outer half (which remained horizontal throughout) was recessed into the upper wing to complete its aerofoil profile. The planned armament was four ShKAS in the inner gull-wing part of the upper wing. There was no cockpit armour.
Though it may have seemed a good idea, the realization was a disappointment. Apart from the overall inferiority of the IS-1's performance, it was nonsense to reduce wing area in an aircraft needing the maximum possible combat agility, and moreover to try on the one hand to increase wing area for take-off and landing whilst simultaneously leaving half the upper (main) wing with a huge hollow on the underside which destroyed the aerofoil profile. A detail is that with the wings folded there was nowhere for spent cartridge cases to escape.
Dimensions
Span (upper) 8.6m 28 ft 2 1/2 in
(lower, extended) 6.72m 22 ft 1/4 in
Length 6.79m 22 ft 2 1/3 in
Wing area (as biplane) 20.83m² 224ft²
(upper only) 13.0m² 140ft²
Weights
Empty 1.400kg 3.086lb
Loaded 2.300kg 5.070lb
Performance
Maximum speed 453km/h 281mph
Time to climb 5 km 5,0 min 16.404ft
Service ceiling (as biplane) 8.800m 28.870ft
Range 600km 373 miles
Take-off run (biplane) 250m 820ft
Landing speed (biplane) 115km/h 715mph
Hurricane ....... ?
I don't know what you are putting in your coffee these days ... but I'll have one too ..... ;)
Well,at least he didn't say it was a swedish Hurricane.... :D
Swedish? See what happened to the Danish yesterday. They wanted to have Pølser and now they have their mess. It's true. Big truth. Greatest truth ever. You're fake news, go home!
this is Mike don't forget and he is a devious SOB
I'm a nice guy :) If only I had friends, they might even get persuaded to confirm 8)
Your turn G :)
Best regards - Mike
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If only I had friends,
.. you have friends Mike and, like all good men, they greatly outnumber your enemies :D
I could never match your ability to find these little oddities..... :-[
Ok then, this one should not be too difficult...
(http://i66.tinypic.com/97jssy.jpg)
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A twin engine Hurricane? *duck*
you have friends Mike and, like all good men, they greatly outnumber your enemies
Thanks for the flowers Glynn, let me return them:
I don't count my friends but I take good care to make friends with good men only.
Cheers my friend 8)
Best regards - Mike
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I know I am wrong but it looked like a Kawasaki Ki-45 KAIc Toryu (Nick)
(http://www.world-war-2-planes.com/images/Kawasaki_Ki-45_KAIc_Toryu.jpg)
Or a FW 187 with radials
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Focke-Wulf_Fw_187_(15083509087).jpg/300px-Focke-Wulf_Fw_187_(15083509087).jpg)
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Not even remotely :P
The engines scream in your face that they're Bristol Centaurus and the plane apparently is equipped with or at least prepared for a radar in it's nose, something the japs were lightyears behind of.
This is one of the first production models of the Bristol Brigand, showing a long range tank underneath.
Note the gun.
Neither were used in future aircraft.
Best regards - Mike
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Right on the money Mike
This aircraft was a spectacularly dangerous one to fly. It saw action in Malaya but the high humidity destroyed various seals. They were high maintenance aircraft to say the least.
Well spotted, your turn...
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Hurricane ....... ?
I don't know what you are putting in your coffee these days ... but I'll have one too ..... ;)
Well,at least he didn't say it was a swedish Hurricane.... :D
Swedish? See what happened to the Danish yesterday. They wanted to have Pølser and now they have their mess. It's true. Big truth. Greatest truth ever. You're fake news, go home!
Those Danish, how dare they stealing the hot dog? The Donald will bomb them back to the Stone Age! ;D
Btw, I thought I knew aircrafts before meeting you guys... you scare me! :)
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Thanks G and don't worry Gianky, the apply pudding will cool Donald down again :D
Something easy to relax:
(https://s11.postimg.cc/r35w73fdf/quest_2017_02_23.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x43l461zj/)
Best regards - Mike
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That looks like something out of a 1930s film "Flash Gordon" :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUbGkSfaKrs
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Until now the closest thing I found is this
(https://s8.postimg.cc/b3egli9np/XF_91_Thunderceptor_800_jpg_2201640.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/iw54dhfmp/)
https://youtu.be/v2AC41dglnM
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Finally!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-91_Thunderceptor
(https://s7.postimg.cc/dl022n1wb/Republic_XF_91_Thunderceptor_V_tail_1023x742.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4pz7s4d3r/)
Republic XF-91 Thunderceptor V tail
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Exactly loco, cheers!
Your turn 8)
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I post this beauty :P
Even less subtle than the previous one
(https://s24.postimg.cc/7pqc3lotx/guess4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vgpplpp0x/)
is super easy!
Cheers!
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Was used in the famous movie Terminator 2
(https://s17.postimg.cc/shlgp7d1r/T2_Poster.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yij5m9znv/)
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Russian... son of IL-2...
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Still looks like a 1930s Flash Gordon spaceship! :D
These aircraft engineers have been watching too many old films!
It is a ILYUSHIN IL-40 "BRAWNY" ;)
(http://www.diseno-art.com/images_9/Ilyushin-IL-40-1.jpg)
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Ilyushin? Winchester!
The hint gives it away:
Was used in the famous movie Terminator 2
It's a highly customized 12 gauge 1887 Winchester lever action shotgun, apparently with two seats and wings added after having been used in the movie :P
Best regards - Mike
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Was used in the famous movie Terminator 2
(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-001.gif)
You, my friend, have too much free time in your hands (and I sorely envy you)!
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You shoot it Max!
you turn!
mike: tanks for the info! ;D
Gianky: i have not much time, but y try! :D
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Ok, guess this one.
I will give you a tip.
It was used by the following Air Forces....
Royal Flying Corps
US Signal Corps
United States Navy
Canadian Aviation Corps
(http://i.imgur.com/i26rkrC.jpg)
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Bonus picture - Get extra points! :D
(http://www.dommagazine.com/sites/default/files/magazine_images/2014-06-June/2014_06_Page_22_Image_0002.jpg)
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1.) A paperplane. I think they've used it in all airforces around, mostly at briefing time.
2.) A woman asking a man for the key after he botched it.
Best regards - Mike
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1: F 35 prototype
Here's the original design specification.....
(https://s1.postimg.cc/libp7op4f/Alsomitra_macrpcarpa.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b89a8fz8r/)
2: Very common a/c...usually spotted inside shopping arcades.......fueled by 20p's
Cheers
Alfie ;)
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It,s surely got to be a Link Trainer??
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Dunne D.8
Wikipedia has a nice picture of it in the swept wing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swept_wing) page.
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Dunne D.8
Wikipedia has a nice picture of it in the swept wing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swept_wing) page.
Congratulations Glanky ! 8)
It is the Burgess-Dunne swept-wing of 1913. It was also used as a seaplane with floats.
- http://flyingmachines.ru/Images7/Flight/1913/1217-1.jpg
Its your turn !
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An edwin link "Pilot Maker" flight simulator?
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Have at it!
(https://s7.postimg.cc/sgj23yq57/Yet_another_easily_identifiable_mistery_plane.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/staga58ev/)
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M.F.11?
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A secret twin engine plane.
Tries to fool the enemy into being a single engined one, but look at the alien tech prop right between the crew seats 8)
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M.F.11?
Give this man a cigar!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marinens_Flyvebaatfabrikk_M.F.11
Your turn!
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OK what's this?
(http://www.cfiamerica.com/images/HA-MAV.jpg)
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Hungarian Weiss Manfréd W.M.10 Ölyv.
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That's been a home match for VP :D
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Yep, and VP should now ask about designation of the glider in the background.... :D
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Hungarian Weiss Manfréd W.M.10 Ölyv.
Correct, of course! :)
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Ok, since 24 hours have passed and this is now an open round, I'm going to ask you a question whose answer I don't know!
Here's a picture of an Italian P-51 in the IAF museum at Vigna di Valle:
(https://s16.postimg.cc/m8x0luj11/DSCN0646.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/707382pch/)
A friend of mine is making a model of this very airplane and asked me today if I knew what that football shaped thing behind the pilot's seat is, and if I had any another pictures, possibly details, of it.
I'm thinking it's some kind of antenna, but, honestly, I've never seen it in any other Mustang and, despite Doctor Google, can't find any other picture or details of it.
Can any of you fine airplane connoisseurs provide the answer and the pictures I'm looking for?
The aircraft is a P-51 used by IAF post WWII, from 1948 to 1953, should be a D model, unknown batch.
EDIT: if you wanna see other (better) pictures, here's the Museum's page:
http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/storia/museostorico/Pagine/NorthAmericanP51.aspx
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Its an unusual installation of DFF antenna.
And its P-51D 44-73451.
Regards Duggy
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Its an unusual installation of DFF antenna.
I guess that's quoted from here and lacks a little additional explanation: http://www.swissmustangs.ch/mm4323-vigna-di-valle
It sure looks like an antenna, but "DFF"?
Dorsal Fin Fillet antenna? That one's exactly where it's supposed to be.
So what exactly should "DFF" be? A swiss name for IFF?
Or is this rather a replacement for the panel antennas of the AN/APS-13 tail warning radar?
In that case: Poor pilot. Regardless how much the beam is focused to the tail section, his brain gets cooked from constand microwave radiation.
Best regards - Mike
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Thanks, guys, the pictures in that site will surely help!
Let's get back to the guessing game!
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I think I can solve the "football shaped thing" quest ;)
It's indeed an antenna, but not "DFF".
What's inside is an LP-21 rotatable ADF loop antenna. The "teardrop" housing was quite common on larger aircraft like C-47/DC-3, B-17 and B-24.
Some P-51D's in the CBI theatre used the same antenna plus housing, but it's usually been mounted right in front of the dorsal fin fillet:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/6m2wowu7f/post_123_0_15742200_1484248939.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8qn9pzvtz/)
The reason why it's been mounted that way in this italian P-51 is unclear.
Inside the cockpit area the football housing is simply unnecessary.
The radio used was an AN/ARA-8 VHF homing adapter.
Beacons for this system have not been deployed to europe so the whole system (receiver + antenna) was probably just dead weight.
Best regards - Mike
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Next time I go to Vigna di Valle, I'll ask them why the hell did they put that antenna in the cockpit! ;D
Thanks, Storebror and Duggy, you've been very helpful.
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According to the rules this is an open house
(https://s16.postimg.cc/71kf8fdp1/guess02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g9cnp4kr5/)
guess this
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Douglas BTD Destroyer ?
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Yep!
(https://s11.postimg.cc/cdwqbrkib/douglas_btd.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/4xxgpywsv/)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_BTD_Destroyer
Turn of GJE52!
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Ok,
(https://s20.postimg.cc/b4pkadkzh/00_Test10.jpg)
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Again the FW 187 falke ... :D
(https://s17.postimg.cc/jnldmxam7/fw_187_a_0_by_nicksikh_d4981d0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/m4x4u6uij/)
(https://s10.postimg.cc/gl5ew2z7d/fw_187.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4w1f8488l/)
I post this plane the first time and then his younger Argentine brother FMA IA 58 Pucará
(https://s11.postimg.cc/zdarc42wz/pucara.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/58maqqxtr/)
There are already so many pages that it is impossible to see them all! :P
Cheers!
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Yep .... again... ;)
Your shot
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Can I try you with this one????
(https://s8.postimg.cc/aorhobr4l/air_display_5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/aorhobr4h/)
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I should have added that I Photoshopped out Aircraft Registration >:(
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Glad that you say so ;)
Well that's a Buccaneer S2B in 1984 at Prestwick Air Show, with Cdr. James B. Grossweiner and his backseater Flt. Lt. Jack Goff on the dorsal spine.
In front of this, facing towards the camera you see Sqn. Ldr. Willie Stroker accompanied by Sqn. Btch. B.J. Cobbledick watching two unknown german engineers doing some maintenance on their secret wonderweapon, allegedly a V-3 but this lacks reliable sources.
Best regards - Mike
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I thought I saw you there .
God you are wearing well :)
My memory could be going and according to Family it went years ago but I think I took photo in 1982
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I think mike just misses naming the names of the grandmothers ;D
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Anyway, it was my turn to post! :P
guess this!
(https://s3.postimg.cc/kcrfvwyoz/guess7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wre7w8q73/)
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It's the second from the right here:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/rt777fpnz/cheated_result.jpg)
Since I had to use google, I will keep my mouth shut ;)
Best regards - Mike
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Has every one gave up on mine?? >:(
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It wasn't your turn.
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This is the easiest of all. Two engine Okha with airconditioning. See how comfortbale the doomed pilot is.
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It wasn't your turn.
.. not so much a "turn" more a kind of earned "privilege" . ;)
Although not actually published anywhere AFAIK, :P the rules of this game are that the guy who guesses correctly gets to put up the next challenge..
... not really rocket science but it kind of works..
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hint: Mike post the entire family
Jimbo:
Welcome to the trivia! Great plane to guess.
You can post after a correct identification or when who guess declare open house.
Do not go crazy, this is a game!
you post the klemm Kl 25
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klemm_Kl_25
(https://s21.postimg.cc/l33e7mimf/Klemm25_replica.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q1qwm5mf7/)
you post the original, this is a replica.
dagger: about my post, I do not want to imagine neck pain of the pilot when trying to review the 6
GJE52: ;)
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klemm Kl 25
The name speaks for itself.
Klemm as a german word loosely translates to "cramp".
You have to cramp yourself into that knocked up pile of crap :P
Best regards - Mike
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Talking about cramps ...
(https://s8.postimg.cc/dihoo4y0l/guess_cockpit_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jjfdl7kmp/)
(https://s8.postimg.cc/nh2nam7g5/guess_cockpit.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dwj0nqi41/)
Look how comfortable you can see the interior of the cockpit, a mixture between coffin and tomograph.
Supercomfortable! Especially for the neck
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That is the Ikarus 451. Not to be confused with the 451M which is turbojet powered.
Cheers!
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Try this one out for size.
Good Luck..........(you'll need it)
(https://s13.postimg.cc/vtfws66g7/4382.jpg)
(https://s13.postimg.cc/lxetsj0o7/4382_L_2.jpg)
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It's not your turn yet.
Please wait for confirmation first.
This is a matter of respect towards the questioner.
And the plane is a Rocheville Arctic Tern, Reg. No. NR221Y, Photographed at Long Beach, California, USA, 1933.
Best regards - Mike
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Yep!
Is the ikarus 451-1!
Al the people are jumping in! LOL ;D
Now is you turn P51vsFw190!
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No......now it's Mike's turn.....
How did you guess that fast Mike?
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It cannot be my turn since it wasn't even your turn yet before James.
So now it's James' turn 8)
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Some human dictionaries are spooking here. :o
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...just in case: The answer is 42.
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Jeez...
Ok....umm.....how about this?
(https://s28.postimg.cc/fek8ef83x/inter.jpg)
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F-35?
*SCNR* 8)
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Mike, you are a cruel and sadistic man.......but that's why we love you.
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Well, pure stroke of luck, but I think the answer is in an article I was reading some days ago...
https://www.aerostoria.it/2016/01/17/roberto-oros-di-bartini-il-pi%C3%B9-grande-progettista-italiano-di-aeroplani-sovietici/
Mid-page, it should be Bartini's Stal'-6.
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Gianky that is absolutely correct.
Your turn.
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Ok, here it is!
(https://s4.postimg.cc/f1qk2r0p9/Senzanome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oz1kvt8ax/)
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I see two types of planes here, Savoia S.P.3 (foreground, with the "bullet" nose, and also background far right), and S.P.2 (the two in the background in the center with the "straight" nose).
Italian recce-bombers based on Farman M.F.11, built in several variants from S.P.1 to S.P.5 differing in detail only. Fairly ubiquitous in the Italian Air Force from 1917 on.
I pass my turn, so if anyone has something good ready please be my guest! :)
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The answer is correct, and since Radoye already expressed his (her?) will, it's open round, guys!
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Well then, guess this one:
(https://s10.postimg.cc/qtlj6o2sp/quest_2017_03_08_sw.jpg)
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Polikarpov ITP
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Give that man a cigar!
Your turn 8)
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Looks familiar? - well...
(https://s16.postimg.cc/gn4r9xb39/Guess.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6d2caol7l/)
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an altered PBY?
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The answer is correct, and since Radoye already expressed his (her?) will, it's open round, guys!
His. Thankyouverymuch! :D
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A little more specific perhaps?
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If you put the name of the basic plane together with that engine manufacturer, Google will give it away *wink* ;)
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Dornier D0-24?
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Bird_Innovator_at_Albuquerque_1995.jpg/1280px-Bird_Innovator_at_Albuquerque_1995.jpg)
The Bird Innovator, N5PY, at Albuquerque International Airport, 1995 in Rio Grande Yacht markings.
The effect of the extra engines exceeded expectations, such that it was capable of a cruising speed of 152 mph (244 km/h) on four engines, and of maintaining 124 mph with one of the main engines feathered. The original PBY cruised at about 125 mph. The downside of the Innovator conversion was the basic empty weight (BOW) of the aircraft increased to over 29,000 lbs. This exceeded the 27,000 lbs maximum that the US Military considered safe for water operations
G;
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The answer is correct, and since Radoye already expressed his (her?) will, it's open round, guys!
His. Thankyouverymuch! :D
I imagined that, but didn't wanna sound chauvinist on Women's day! :D
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The effect of the extra engines exceeded expectations
Easy thing, my expectations would be sub-zero.
The engine layout looks as if a Ferrari driver would try to raise the top speed by attaching two lawn mowers to the front axle :D
Best regards - Mike
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GJE25
Absolutely right you are.
Over to you
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I've posted a few lately, so rather than be greedy, I'll pass the batton and declare open house ....
G;
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Since it didn't take long, I'll take up the challenge again.
This time more difficult
(https://s3.postimg.cc/rnc72iioj/Guess_01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f8pf26r67/)
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I imagined that, but didn't wanna sound chauvinist on Women's day! :D
Occasionally I tell people that I subscribe to several magazines for men.
That usually triggers people's dirty minds.
And of course they are wrong. These magazines have lots of aircraft in them. Well - there are a number of people operating the planes as well. And about 99.9 % of these are men.
Aviation is almost totally female free area
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Aviation is almost totally female free area
Wrong.
There are lots of sky bunnies out there
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Wrong.
There are lots of sky bunnies out there
Guess I am too much of a sissy to publish pictures like this:
(https://s1.postimg.cc/9r379bh7z/76501_3_verborgen_geschiedenis_pakket_verb_gesch.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vdi7qcfsb/)
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Since it didn't take long, I'll take up the challenge again.
This time more difficult
(https://s3.postimg.cc/rnc72iioj/Guess_01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f8pf26r67/)
(http://www.asvrr.org/wpimages/wp500912b5_05_06.jpg)
;)
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/F-15_Eagle_female_pilots%2C_3rd_Wing.jpg/800px-F-15_Eagle_female_pilots%2C_3rd_Wing.jpg)
(https://cdn1.pri.org/sites/default/files/styles/story_main/public/niloofar_0.png?itok=31Huf1lu)
I'll let you tell them they are "sky bunnies" ....... ;)
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(https://s14.postimg.cc/gtv3c3rld/9785bbd6c59513f0558811907cb77ee1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6jsocv1pp/)
You're forgetting the best of all time.
Lydia Litvyak the white lily of stalingrad. Heroine of the Soviet Union.
Female maximum ace, with 13 victories one of them was one 11 victories ace of the JG53 Staff Sergeant Erwin Maier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Litvyak
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Occasionally I tell people that I subscribe to several magazines for men.
That usually triggers people's dirty minds.
And of course they are wrong.
I use to fly with the callsign "GA-Y" on our FAC sunday sessions on the SAS gameserver when RAF or RAAF are available.
Guess what that triggers in other pilot's minds 8)
It's just too funny to hear this on the radio (teamspeak):
"Watch your six! Gay behind!"
:))
Best regards - Mike
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If somebody shouted: Gay coming in from behind! I would most certainly get out of the way pretty quickly
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Radoye
You are right of course.
Perhaps you could expand a little?
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Yep, that's the idea with the "Gay from behind".
Just in case... don't worry, I'm not gay.
And don't worry, even good friends here got fooled when I once added that I just came back from the Christopher Street Day parade :D
The thing is: I'm not gay, but I'm not homophobic either. Having been in the navy for 9 years doesn't make you gay, but it teaches tolerance :D
Btw, to get back to topic: Radoye is indeed right with the steam guess. Interesting airplane this "Airspeed 2000", the first really working steam driven plane apparently.
Nice find.
Best regards - Mike
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Occasionally I tell people that I subscribe to several magazines for men.
That usually triggers people's dirty minds.
And of course they are wrong.
I use to fly with the callsign "GA-Y" on our FAC sunday sessions on the SAS gameserver when RAF or RAAF are available.
Guess what that triggers in other pilot's minds 8)
It's just too funny to hear this on the radio (teamspeak):
"Watch your six! Gay behind!"
:))
Best regards - Mike
AAAAAAHAHAHAHAH! :)) You are a funny guy!
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Let us get back on topic, as posted by Lamehawk....
....what is this smoking cool aircraft ?
Since it didn't take long, I'll take up the challenge again.
This time more difficult
(https://s3.postimg.cc/rnc72iioj/Guess_01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f8pf26r67/)
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Radoye is on the right track
(sorry about that one)
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~snip~
I use to fly with the callsign "GA-Y" on our FAC sunday sessions on the SAS gameserver when RAF or RAAF are available.
You still do Mike.:))
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What I said: Watch your six Ricky!
You know what gays do to crispy youngsters?
Best regards - Mike
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Aviation is almost totally female free area
Wrong.
There are lots of sky bunnies out there
Where I fly, there's a bunch of men and a couple of specimens of what I don't dare define as females.... :(
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Radoye
You are right of course.
Perhaps you could expand a little?
Steam power.
I'll leave it at that, it should be enough of a hint for someone else to name the plane, since i don't have anything ready for the next quest. :)
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The Besler Steam Plane ;)
A converted Travel Air 2000 biplane made the world's first piloted flight under steam power over Oakland, California, on 12 April 1933.
The strangest feature of the flight was its relative silence; spectators on the ground could hear the pilot when he called to them from mid-air.
The aircraft, piloted by William Besler, had been fitted with a two-cylinder, 150 hp reciprocating engine.
An important contribution to its design was made by Nathan C. Price, a former Doble Steam Motors engineer.
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(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18ilgzo26lcnpjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)
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(http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/PopularScience/7-1933/steam_plane/steam_plane_0.jpg)
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a cool video....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw6NFmcnW-8
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Bingo! :)
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Alright guys and gals, I will give you an easy one.
Guess this?
(http://www.paulnoll.com/Oregon/Inspiration/humor5-plane-35.jpg)
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Bonus points !
Guess this?
(http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx53/whpete44/Economy%20Engine%20Cider%20Presses%20and%20Allis%20Airplane/EconomyEngineCiderPressesandAllisAirplane027_zpsc895d4b6.jpg)
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Bonus is not a pusher :P
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It is the Russian heavy bomber Kalinin K7 of 1933
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalinin_K-7
It is difficult to find an image that is not of the fake version. There are some where you can see it with naval howitzers hunting flying saucers.
(https://s10.postimg.cc/60dz9w76h/3_View_Kalinin_K_7_Color.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/y0i2u6amt/)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/4bi7uf1bd/Kalinin_K_7_Technical_Drawing.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3yqto8j1h/)
The bonus:
for its landing gear configuration and sealth tail is clearly an F-35 IH...
the IH designation is for the exportation to the third wold countries, manofactured under licence by International Harvest.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/zfv1nv1a3/f35variants_thumb.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ndzntps1j/)
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Perfect score Locopiston ! 8)
Your turn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu9W8AtZy7U
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I usually try to understand what the letters in acronyms stand for.
The NOTOL in the innovative IH version, does that mean NO Take Off and Landing?
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The NOTOL capability is designed to make spike top tactic.
Consists of a flush flight at low height and speed to be able to attack the grains and fumigate the ground at the same time. For this the airplane does NOT have to take off or land. ;D
cheers!
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You have a great bonus in last post Max! :D
This is an easy one.
I am sure he is the inspirer of the aircraft of the blocks carrier of my childhood.
(https://s21.postimg.cc/wh36o9l0n/tente_jet_figter_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/a55duvlwj/)
(https://s21.postimg.cc/ioorsmu93/tente_jet_figter.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ml23omf8j/)
I'm sure of the small piece of plastic is better designed and flies better than the real one. o_O
(https://s13.postimg.cc/woos534s7/guess113.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fo5vwerqr/)
Cheers!
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One of my all-time favourites: The Vought F7U Cutlass.
What a nice looking plane, and what a brick to fly unfortunately!
If it flew just half as good as it looked, it would have been a much greater success.
Nevertheless, some details about the depicted plane, which has been neatly photoshopped 8)
This is the real photo:
(https://s27.postimg.cc/k8qqclomb/cutlass.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/e7t1fj1zz/)
The plane shown is an F7U-3P "Bulp Nose" Cutlass Air Development Squadron VX-3 (US Navy), NAS Atlantic City, New Jersey, 1955.
Serial is 00/XC and BuAer No. is 128464.
Couldn't find reliable sources about the fate of that plane, sorry.
Best regards - Mike
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The Ensign eliminator or the The Gutless Cutlass
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Thank you locopiston.
Always eager to learn :D
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Magnificent as always Mike!
It is also one of my favorite planes. I do not understand how someone had the balls to land that into a carrier.
You turn!
Sorry for the japan photoshop... 8)
The Ensign eliminator or the The Gutless Cutlass is corect too steven, but mike answer first. ;)
I am a specialist in rare variants of the F-35 and its capabilities LameHawk. :D
Regards!
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I took note of the expresssion: "to land that into a carrier"
(https://s7.postimg.cc/akw457mqj/Cutlass.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jfwyfqbiv/)
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Cutlass hitting the roundown ??
Benno
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I took note of the expresssion: "to land that into a carrier"
That is one amazing and scary photo :o
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This is the video (1:46 min. onwards):
https://youtu.be/QlRnz1P3enE?t=106
Best regards - Mike
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All very cute ... but the plane to guess does not appear !? ;D
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Must be Storebror's turn
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Oh, shame on me... give me 5 minutes please :D
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Slightly more than 5 minutes... guess this one:
(https://s1.postimg.cc/hlexwrxf3/quest_2017_03_14.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Hawker Henley testbed, Vulture engine :P
i have a good eye on hawker's undercarriage, i fear heheh
(http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/AI/AI57-10/29-1.jpg)
S!
A1_Phoenix
(at work now, i guess it's an open round!)
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It's an interesting picture... Didn't like the Henley so much before, but it's clearly beginning to change ;) That's what I love in this thread !
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The cigar goes to A1_Phoenix and since you said so, it's and open round now!
Best regards - Mike
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Guess this revolutionary airplane!
(https://s21.postimg.cc/wq6fsyx47/guess143.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/iwi33x4ir/)
Regards!
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I love those rubber planes :D
It´s the amazing Goodyear Inflatoplane !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodyear_Inflatoplane
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjUxlfMbdhs
(http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/MechanixIllustrated/11-1958/plane_blows_up.jpg)
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yep!
Very useful and safe! :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAqcBRMl-Vs
You turn Max!
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Guess this cool aircraft ...
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6aqKwzJtGxU/Tv0ugo_sEmI/AAAAAAAAKik/o6F5AdKEh8s/s1600/329648_2617558430882_1012766808_32317187_485500656_o.jpg)
Bonus points...
(https://zythophile.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/spitfire-droptank-fuelling-300dpi.jpg)
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An upgrade attempt for the F-35, hands down :P
The bonus is so interesting, I have to reveal it...
Normandy, 70 years ago, and one of the biggest concerns of the British troops who have made it over the channel, survived the landings and pushed out into the bocage against bitter German resistance is not the V1 flying bomb blitz threatening their families back home, nor the continued failure to capture the port of Cherbourg – but the lack of beer in the bridgehead. On 20 June 1944, two weeks after D-Day, Reuter’s special correspondent with the Allied Forces in France wrote to newspapers in the UK that all that was available in the newly liberated estaminets a few miles inland from the beaches was cider, “and it is pretty watery stuff. I saw a British private wistfully order a pint of mild and bitter: but the glass he sat down with contained the eternal cider.”
(https://s30.postimg.cc/6saolzb41/quest.png)
Tangmere, Sussex, July 1944: in front of a Spitfire IX of 332 (Norwegian) Squadron, a standard 45-gallon Typhoon/Hurricane ‘Torpedo’ jettison tank modified for use on the Spitfire (because of an expected shortage of 45-gallon shaped or slipper tanks) is filled with PA ale for flying over to Normandy while an RAF ‘erk’ writes a cheery message on the tank. The pilot sitting on the wing in this clearly posed government publicity picture is wearing a Norwegian Air Force cap-badge. Is the man filling the tank a brewery worker? Surely. Is the beer from Henty and Constable’s brewery in nearby Chichester? It seems very likely …
The pilot has been identified as almost certainly being the Norwegian Spitfire ace Wing Commander Rolf Arne Berg, CO of No. 132 Norwegian Wing, who was killed a few months later, aged 27, in February 1945 while attacking a German airfield in the Netherlands.
It would not be until July 12 when “real British beer” finally officially reached the battling troops in Normandy, and even then the quantity was enough only for one pint per man. But long before then, enterprising pilots in the RAF – and the USAAF – had been engaged in shipping beer into Northern France privately, using what the troops called “flying pubs”.
Read more about it here:
http://zythophile.co.uk/2014/06/06/you-wont-believe-this-one-weird-trick-they-used-to-fly-beer-to-the-d-day-troops-in-normandy/#more-3951
Best regards - Mike
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and for the standard question, Scaled Composite ARES, iirc it was in a "eww"-rated Iron Eagle film
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaled_Composites_ARES
:)
A1_Phoenix
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That is correct A1_Phoenix ! Your turn
(https://media.giphy.com/media/lI6nHr5hWXlu0/giphy.gif)
SAS~Storebror very true story! Another thing, other than beer deliveries, some allied airplanes even delivered ICE CREAM to
the troops in Normandy after D-Day in those petrol tanks :D A little Thank You Gift for the hard-fighting troops who fought
for everyone's freedom! They earned it.
You get the extra 5 Bornus Points ;D
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Here is more about the Scaled Composite ARES ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG9LlHcX8lg
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Thank you Max, and Storebror too for the extra infos on beer-spitfire!
Some years ago i didn't know ARES was a Rutan's creation, but of course i can see his typical style :)
it was the "bad-guy-plane messerschmitt 263" in the ill-fated Iron Eagle III, the one with ww2 fighters, my memory was right
going back on topic, i actually have something for you, this time!
(http://i.imgur.com/psQ83oY.png)
S!
A1_Phoenix
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Joy JX
It's tempting to call this contraption a flying flapjack.
Except it seems it never made it into the air. It ended up in the barbed wire fence where the airport ended.
Ruined "plane", pilot unhurt
(https://s13.postimg.cc/6x1xvcrvb/flapjack3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/558z0g8ib/)
(https://s13.postimg.cc/9sf127vvb/Joy_JX_NC12787_01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ta9oi5ssz/)
(https://s13.postimg.cc/6a315tuzb/Joy_JX_NC12787_02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r6z9aht03/)
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Amazing :o I never seen this one before.
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How in the world you got it, LameHawk... :D I've found it just for the quiz, never seen before.
I guess it's so strange it can easily catch someone's attention!
So, excellent! Your move, LameHawk!!!
:)
A1
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OK - this is a one-off.
But it's from my favourite period.
(https://s1.postimg.cc/sk8mmii27/SASQuiz.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vr36652i3/)
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Well...guess what is this.
(https://s16.postimg.cc/g3besy0o5/Puzzle.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tk8dbtazl/)
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Well...guess what is this.
~snip~
BY BEDROOM! 8)
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top view of two man carrying plywood
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Mix between an avia and LaGG3? :-[
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OK - this is a one-off.
But it's from my favourite period.
Ah, the Stuka that wasn't meant to be.
Heinkel He 118 V1.
Nice plane, but not built for purpose.
It's one of those "don't take a knife to a gunfight" things:
What the hell was going on in Heinkel's mind when he did this?
The competition was for a dive bomber, period.
The He 118 was arguably the cleanest design and looked very promising.
It was considerably more streamlined than the Junkers competitor, with retractable landing gear and an internal bomb bay.
But when you're asked to demonstrate the plane's capabilities in a dive bomber competition and you go there and say "see here my pretty new design, looks much better than the others, only thing is: It cannot dive" then you simply missed the point.
Nevertheless the plane paved the way for the Yokosuka D4Y eventually.
Should I be the one with the baton, then please use this as an open round invitation as I'm on business trip at the moment ;)
Best regards - Mike
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OK - this is a one-off.
But it's from my favourite period.
Ah, the Stuka that wasn't meant to be.
Heinkel He 118 V1.
Nice plane, but not built for purpose.
It's one of those "don't take a knife to a gunfight" things:
What the hell was going on in Heinkel's mind when he did this?
The competition was for a dive bomber, period.
Best regards - Mike
That is correct!
It does look like a smaller version of the Stuka.
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Well A1. You ask how I got that Joy JX.
It may have been rhetorical - nevertheless:
I have to admit to a certain addiction to aviation quizzes. I have been doing it for some twenty years, and it has provided me with some experience. I was hooked when I accidentally came across a picture of a small bit of an airplane that I recognized immediately because I had built the plane as a plastic model back in the sixties. Memory in the fingers can be quite good.
When looking through thousands of pictures you get a "feeling" for the picture. I can't really explain this "feeling", but I have grown quite good at extracting information from the picture: which nationality the plane is, approximately when the photo was taken, the quality of the picture (Russian pictures from the thirties are generally miserable), anything else in the picture (people, uniforms, backgrounds etc. I actually found a plane by recognizing the bluish mountains in the background from another picture with a similar background - it had to be the same event - and it was!
As to the Joy: I thought it looked more or less like a flapjack, so I made a black and white picture search for 12787 and flapjack - and there it was.
The registration is often a giveaway, and as I thought it looked American I might have added N or NC to the registration - which would also have found the plane.
And no - I hadn't seen this contraption before. Then again - that's why it is so interesting doing quizzes. You learn something new all the time
So - if you would like to waste a lot of time in an interesting way here is a couple of recommendations:
http://www.dauntless-soft.com/AviaQuiz/ (http://www.dauntless-soft.com/AviaQuiz/)
http://www.military-airshows.co.uk/quiz.htm (http://www.military-airshows.co.uk/quiz.htm)
Good luck
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Lets relive this tread again... :-[
storebror declares an open house
gues this!
(https://s18.postimg.cc/4pop23tjt/guess20.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/l0osyf61h/)
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That is the Republic XP-72 Superbolt Prototype #2, Serial # 43-6599
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GOOD! :D the tread is live!
Corect P51vsFw190!
you turn!
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So we stalled again?
Guess this one:
(https://s12.postimg.cc/ku9tdqut9/quest_2017_03_20.jpg)
Note: This is a very special plane, so it's not sufficient just to guess the general plane model.
Best regards - Mike
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Douglas ?
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Definitely yes :)
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I do believe it is a Douglas F5D Skylancer
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Of the time when the US Navy's planes looked innocent and friendly.
Cousin of vought cutlass
maybe Amstrong NASA plane
Or some super new F-35 variant?
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Douglas F5D Skylancer
Definitely no.
maybe Amstrong NASA plane
Nope.
Or some super new F-35 variant?
This information is classified :P
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Is the XF4D-1 Ship No. 1 (BuAer No. 124586)
It confuses because it has an antenna in the tail and one in the nose very aggressive; the engine also has a exhaust nozzle longer than later in the series version F4D-1 Skyray.
(https://s21.postimg.cc/fxn98csmf/XF4_D_Ship_No_1_Bu_No_124586_610x406.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3vrve7jdv/)
superb the spectral blue of photoshop!
Regards!
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Is the XF4D-1 Ship No. 1 (BuAer No. 124586)
Congratulations, that's exactly right!
It confuses because it has an antenna in the tail and one in the nose very aggressive; the engine also has a exhaust nozzle longer than later in the series version F4D-1 Skyray.
On the tail you actually see an additional pitot tube in front and the fuel-jettison pipe behind. The latter was installed in a similar fashion on serial production planes.
The nose probe with AoA indicator surfaces of course is special to prototypes.
The exhaust looks different from serial production planes since the planned J40 Engine wasn't ready yet.
Quote from http://www.joebaugher.com/navy_fighters/f6_1.html:
The airframe was completed in 1950, but the 7000 lb.s.t. Westinghouse XJ40-WE-6 engine that was intended for the XF4D-1 had experienced serious development delays and was not yet ready for flight. Rather than wait until the J40 was completed, Douglas decided to install a 5000 lb.s.t. Allison J35-A-17 turbojet in the two XF4D-1 airframes for the initial testing.
Your turn 8)
Best regards - Mike
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as always! you have all the info! tanks to share Mike!
back to the ugly birds ;D
(https://s27.postimg.cc/dspconowj/guess21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vir19p2hb/)
guess this!
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note:
The guy from behind seems to have hidding some serious error and he's being silly
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Woops sorry guys. I totally forgot I had guessed. My bad.
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Well A1. You ask how I got that Joy JX.
quite an extensive answer, LameHawk, thank you! :)
i'm interested in extra-plane details, too, sometimes they tell everything!
with JoyJX, i must admit i was tempted to cut out the serial, but on these days i'm only on workplace PC so no photoediting until further notice. you did exactly what i've feared hehehehe
When possible, i'll check your links, thank you!
Salute! :)
A1
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I was pretty sure we already had this, but now I see it was a request, not a quest :)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,37287.msg412036.html#msg412036
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Perfect Sniperton!
It's a really weird fighter.
Its best quality are the wheels in the tail. ;D
Your turn!
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Thanks, first a bonus item in the 'weird plane' category:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/yumxwviv9/quest30.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oxbx3tb9d/)
Second the quest item:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/u601z973j/quest31.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9lv80rrcb/)
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Westland P.12 "Delanne" Lysander and BV.155 (V-2?)
The german one is one of my wet dreams, while the Delanne is.. well. I didn't even know Lysanders and Lancasters could mate.
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Congrats, both are correct. And yes, I think (but am not fully sure) that it is actually the V-2 of BV.155B.
Your turn
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Thank you Sniperton :)
For more information, the BV.155 is an extreme evolution of Bf.109, through Me.155.
Of course, not much parts were still in common!
Aaaaand: the quiz
(http://i.imgur.com/vBiqdij.png)
Not a photo, but still an airplane! :)
S!
A1
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Gloster Meteor F. MK 8
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Gloster Meteor F. MK 8
Nope, max :)
of course, one can think it's a near ball.
S!
A1_Phoenix
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Did ever leave the drawing table? o_O
The wing without dihedral, engines too advanced and tail long and high, differentiate it from the meteor, but not too much...
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Did ever leave the drawing table? o_O
It was my first thought, too. Come on man, show us the real thing! :D
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This specific plane was only one project, but guilty we are not: its base design flew, and so well it's still valid. Too late, of course, and wasn't selected.
On a side note, there are clues in both my answers heheehhe
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That looks something like the Hawker contender to the Meteor. The P-1048.
(https://s16.postimg.cc/ruq4zmsyt/P1048__Scene_01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/e11sal0dd/)
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Cabin position, wing implantation, engine size and tail lift say it is not the same plane. :-[
Same, we are talking about things that do not exist ... so it could be the santa's sleigh. :P
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A1_Phoenix, we need to see a real photo of a real aircraft built.
Otherwise its just a paper-project.
A "what-if" prototype paper-project for the Gloster Meteor
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I don't think it's british at all.
For a Meteor the tail layout doesn't fit.
Definitely just a project plane.
I suspect a russian origin, maybe some project alongside the Alekseyev I-21 Series.
Best regards - Mike
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I suspect a russian origin, maybe some project alongside the Alekseyev I-21 Series.
It was my second thought, but note the triangular cross section of the fuselage, which is reminiscent of the Me-262.
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Sorry guys: it's not meant to be easy, but challenging. And i see your curiosity is waking up :)
As i said, it's true this is only a drawing (well, now i must admit i'm not sure if a drawing is fully legit), but:
-it's a known project (it could be found on internet) from a known airplane designer. Well.. then, expatriated, but it's NOT a "nemo propheta in patria" situation, he designed successful planes (and not only) in his birthplace.
-the "base" plane was built, and flew. it flew very well, albeit with another powerplant. And it was a taildragger. And Air Forces needs were rapidly changing in those years. Nevertheless, fuselage, wings, and tail are the same: to be more precise, it was meant to be the SAME plane, with some differences.
said so, no Alekseyev, no Me.262. ;)
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A1
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Argentinian ..... ? IAe 30 Pallavincino 1
(http://www.militariarg.com/uploads/4/2/2/1/4221080/2179044_orig.jpg)
Jet modification of the IAe-30 Nancu, also designed by Pallavicino, was to be a heavy fighter in a class of the Gloster Meteor: single-seater, two Rolls-Royce Derwent engines each producing 3.500 lb static thrust. The variant was to have been armed with four Hispano-Suiza cannons. None built.
A proposed jet engined version of this "Hornet look alike"
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/IAe30.jpg)
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I guess the plane's got a link with the Hornet, as the wings look the same. Are Emile Dewoitine or Kurt Tank involved ? ;)
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And here it is!
excellent, GJE52! :)
my source: https://www.zona-militar.com/foros/threads/fma-iae-48.11850/page-3
it's almost a "modular" design, in fact the "Project 1" by Pallavicino, it's simply a Derwent-engined Namcu
afaik, Wikipedia declare the merlin version's 780km/h as a still valid south american piston engine speed record, not sure if it's true, tho. Beautiful bird, anyway. too bad FA Argentina obviously decided to follow the jet future.
i'm sorry for some italian puns, but i'll also let you know that somewhat obscure clues were "Near Ball" for "Vicino Palla", "Guilty we are not (we are innocent)" for "Innocenti", builder of Lambretta scooter designed by Pallavicino before moving to Argentina.
As for Pallavicino, here some other infos :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesare_Pallavicino
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A1
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Cheers Glynn 8)
Argentina... that would have been one of the last spots to search for an unknown jet project ;)
Best regards - Mike
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Westland P.12 Wendover, I read somewhere that on one of the test flights the rear turret fell off, complete with hapless occupant.
'I say; was a bit 'Harry Twitchers' for a moment back there old boy'
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I'm Argentine, I never heared of a jet version of the Ñancu ... :-|
In this country there were many drawings of jets during the era of Perón 1945-1955 but only pulqui and pulqui II flew. Kurth tank take to India Pulqui III project.
In the most famous stuff made in country for Palavicino was the SIAM Lambretta model known here as "Siambretta"
(https://s1.postimg.cc/xt1wgk6cv/peron_siambretta.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/nvqvnhyqz/)
General Peron testing the first prototipe superviced by Palavicino
(https://s3.postimg.cc/u7wbe3fqr/peronsiam3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5emrdfwq7/)
General Peron driving the siambretta leadering a group of fans... this countrie es very weird...
Is difficult to understand but much more difficult is to explain it:
Peron was Politically a mix between: Mussolini + Fidel Castro + Marshal Tito + Mandela + Donald Trump... But he was elected and the people loved him! :-[ :P
If we can put airplanes of that forum of drunkies this is going to become bizarre. ;D
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It was my third thought that if a quest is hopelessly unsolvable, the solution should be sought in Argentina... :D ;D
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AH! So its an Argentina proposed jet project. A jet version for the "Nancu".
I searched all over for a built version of the blueprints you posted , but there was no such aircraft.
So it continues to be a "what if". Only a paper-project.
It is still very interesting to me, as I also enjoy looking at project blueprints of aircraft. I am always
all over the internet and in books looking for such stuff. ;D Thanks.
Great find SAS~GJE52 ! I never heard of this "Nancu".
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OK. not too hard this time ... ;)
(https://s20.postimg.cc/mwxa1ccxp/00_Test11.jpg)
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Thunderchief?
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F-105 Thunderchief,
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Maybe, but which one ?
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F-105D a Single seat Fighter-bomber
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Yep, your call.. ;)
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Ok, Lets try this,
(https://s21.postimg.cc/qgc6d00k7/IMG_0338.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ftid7kser/)
If not, your call
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Yak-1000. Never got airborne.
Free round.
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Yak-1000. Never got airborne.
Free round.
Indeed it is the Yak-1000, Great pick Narvik !
- http://www.findmodelkit.com/sites/default/files/72026_6.jpg
Free round, cool.
Would you mind if I post the next guess?
Guess this mystery aircraft...
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l23/chris7421/Mystery%201.png) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/chris7421/media/Mystery%201.png.html)
for
Bonus points ...
(http://filmfanatic.org/reviews/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Flying-Down-to-Rio-Aerial-Ballet1.png)
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I also could not resist and post it in the past. :-|
But the plane is fake... or falke? ;)
I do not know the girls flying over Rodrigo de Freitas Lagoa 8)
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Bingo, Nice one, your turn. Your call
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I am not sure if the plane is a Falke, or FW 187 as that aircraft was a tail dragger ... and the one in the picture clearly is not. Sometimes the on line images are incorrecly named. I am not sure what this is ... but I am sure what it is not.
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Quoting myself:
It's just a hoax, nothing less, nothing more.
That "He-279 Spirale" thing is just a bold allegation raised by someone on the internet who disappeared as quickly thereafter as he raised that hoax.
Nice Photoshop work though.
Best regards - Mike
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Your guess is as good as mine. It is an unknown Luftwaffe aircraft.
For the curious... more information about it here...
https://forum.axishistory.com//viewtopic.php?t=166730
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http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,20080.0.html
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I also could not resist and post it in the past. :-|
But the plane is fake... or falke? ;)
I do not know the girls flying over Rodrigo de Freitas Lagoa 8)
Great guess Locopiston 8)
Your next good buddy!
The film is called "Flying Down to Rio"
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Down_to_Rio
It also features of number of other dancing girls on top of 1930s airplanes
(http://www.cinestylography.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/flying-down-to-rio-1933-aeroplane-dance1.jpg)
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Would these ladies actually stand on the control surfaces?
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the bonus of Max always are great! ;D
LameHawk, the girls can step on the ailerons because they are cariocas ... and the cariocas girls can do everything! :o
guess this!
(https://s8.postimg.cc/htg4v45z9/guess26.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9b6oqrzgh/)
Cheers!
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Messerschmitt Me 261 Adolfine
Long distance reconnaissance
And what a lovely name
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I still do not know if he is very thin, or the wing and the wheels are very fat. :P
Correct LameHawk! The name would have been to consecrate or annoy the führer? :D
your turn!
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Gentlemen - a rarity
(https://s29.postimg.cc/62lry3yg7/SASQuiz0003.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h26z9pov7/)
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mix between J5N and Avenguer? o_O
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No ;)
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Woomera ;)
Benno
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Not strictly correct.
It is the Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation CA-4
It was unofficially called the Wackett bomber (named after the designer).
There were two prototypes, but never made production status.
It was further developed into the CA-11 Woomera. Only one was completed before the project was dropped.
But close enough. Next!
(https://s14.postimg.cc/jcmt08c0x/Woomera.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/56725015p/)
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So, who´s next?
(http://www.allkpop.com/upload/2016/05/content/misc_1464156182_20160525_yge.jpg)
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Let me take the baton:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/x17g3ck3z/quest_2017-04-01.jpg)
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French sea unicorn?
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I think it is the SO-8000 'Narval' French naval fighter aircraft designed by Sud-Ouest in the late 1940s.
G;
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Absolutely right Glynn, congratulations!
Your turn now 8)
Best regards - Mike
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That last plane, never saw it, but sure would love to fly it.-"SO-8000 'Narval'" Have a soft spot for boom configurations on props (and jets for that matter)-
Carry on chaps aka Glynn. :P
Chrs
Tom
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Ok, try this one...
(https://s30.postimg.cc/m7ue2fooh/00_Test12.jpg)
;)
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is the Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm + Rockwell X-31 : BuNo 164585.
german-nasa test bed for thrust vectoring.
a real franken! was made with TFK-90 + B-1; F-16; F-16XL; F-18; F-20; V-22 and cesna citation parts! :P
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Two built, one lost due to pitot icing but one survived the test programe. This design had unbelievable flight characteristics. There are some good vids on you tube of it flying.
Ok...... your turn.
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ok!
an easy now!
(https://s1.postimg.cc/jeiza0kjz/guess02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/byjpo7wuj/)
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Yep - easy it is:
Ryan XF2R Dark Shark.
Run over by the jet age
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;D
fish the shark!
you turn LameHawk!
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This shouldn't be too difficult either
(https://s28.postimg.cc/bcdu5ymfx/SASQuiz04.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tryb3d0k9/)
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This is exactly what it looks like, a B-24 with a B-17 nose.
In particular, it's B-24J-15-CO-42-73130 tested with B-17G nose and turret from Lockheed/Vega B-17G-30-VE 42-97772 which was damaged at Langley Field.
Hybrid Aircraft - Boeing B-17G / Consolidated B-24J
The availability of the Consolidated B-24 in increasing numbers soon made it evident that, whatever the qualities of its companion, the B-17, the Liberator led in several vital areas, especially in range and bomb load. But by 1944, an additional turret in the nose had increased weight and drag reduced the margin. In addition, the Liberator's ceiling, already less than the B-17s, was further reduced. Furthermore, the addition of the turred reduced forward vision from the flight deck, and cramped the working areas of the naviagtor and bombardier, in the nose.
The deterioration of the B-24's operational suitability concerned the USAAF sufficiently for them to launch a priority project to improve the Liberator's performance. Air Materiel Command undertook the "B-24 Weight Reduction Program", with the objectives of improving the speed and altitude capabilities of the aircraft, and also of solving the poor forward visibility and crew quarters problems.
In March 1944, at Wright Field, the Weight Reduction Committee considered a range of options. Among these were more powerful turbo superchargers to improve the ceiling, a faired Bell power boost tail turret, and a single tail assembly calculated to add 10 mph (16 km/h) to the B-24's speed.
The B-17 nose configuration was better streamlined, and provided adequate working space for the navigator and excellent visibility for the bombardier. It was at first used as a bench-mark by which to measure any B-24 modification. Eventually, the suggestion was made to actually put a Fortress nose onto a Liberator airframe.
On May 25th, 1944, Air Materiel Command assigned the experiment a First Priority Project rating. A preliminary study at Wright Field reported that a completely new nose design would be more practical, but conceded that fitting a B-17 nose was feasible. The actual conversion was scheduled to begin in June, at Air Service Command's Middletown, Ohio, facilities.
It was agreed that the project should be finished 20 days after receiving a new B-17G nose section from the Douglas plant at Long Beach, California. The airframe was to be B-24J serial 42-73130, made available by Aircraft Test Control and flown to Middletown on June 5th. The aircraft was weighed, and work began on removing the nose and making a mock-up mating structure.
As the project looked for ways to shorten their 20-day time-frame, they found that an accident at Langley Field, Virginia, had considerably damaged B-17G serial 42-97772, but the nose section was still fairly intact. It was requisitioned and reached Middletown on June 11th. The nose section from California arrived five days later and was used to replace damaged parts on the section from Langley.
Now began a complex mating of the two major components. Not only were these of quite different cross sections, but installed equipment did not match up. Side structural fairings were formed by a continuation rearwards of the side components of the B-17 nose section, to end at a point on the B-24 fuselage just forward of the bomb bay doors. The reverse happened on the upper fuselage, where the B-24 was faired forwards onto the B-17 nose.
The modification was completed on July 2nd. Whilst not over-attractive, the new nose did at least appear to be an aerodynamic improvement. One problem was that the new nose not only added about two feet to the overall length of the aircraft, but it also increased its weight by 437 lb. (198 kg.).
The aircraft was sent to Wright Field for a brief check-out flight on July 6th by the Flight Section of Materiel Command. With a gross takeoff weight of 56,000 lb. (25400 kg) and after speed, power and stability tests at 10,000 ft. (3048 m) the test crew concluded the aircraft performance was "essentially the same as other B-24 airplanes", but with an airspeed "apparently 8.5 mph (13.7 km/h) faster". The aircraft was sent to the AAF Proving Ground at Eglin Field, Florida, via Bolling Field, Washington, DC, for the edification of Pentagon representatives.
Three flights were scheduled. The first, at low altitude, was for familiarisation and instrument calibration. The next two would be identical except that, on the third, the aircraft would carry the weight of a fully-loaded B-24J.
The missions were flown during August. On both altitude flights, the aircraft was only able to reach a ceiling of 18,500-19,000 ft. (5638-5791 m.), about 2/3 that of an ordinary B-24. At that point cylinder head temperatures soared and the cowl flaps had to be opened, adding to drag, preventing any further climbing, and producing a mild tail buffeting.
The Eglin report condemned the modified aircraft as "operationally unsuitable". They pointed to weight increase, stability problems, the poor ceiling and generally poor performance, and recommended the project be discontinued.
Finally the Engineering Division of Air Materiel Command admitted that it would be better simply to redesign the B-24J nose. Most of the added weight was due to ammunition for the B-17 nose and cheek guns, almost a third of a ton. This weight did offset the aerodynamics problems of the forward-stretching nose somewhat, which apparently would otherwise have been worse.
There was some dispute that the head temperatures which prevented climbing to a higher ceiling could be blamed on the B-17 nose. They had allegedly been reported in other B-24Js. The test crews agreed that the crew space in the nose had been vastly improved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BlJ4me-BTk
Best regards - Mike
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WOW! Never heard about this hybrid version.
Looks pretty cool.
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stalled again!
rules says open house.
Guess this!
(https://s14.postimg.cc/3k0l4lt9d/gueess_05.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4z25tbucd/)
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Another doomed aircraft. Too late and too cumbersome (according to the late Eric Brown). Meant for a large aircraft carrier that was cancelled, and thus the plane was cancelled as well.
The Fairey Spearfish
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yes!
correct!
you turn LameHawk! ;D
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After a couple of relatively easy ones - here is a difficult one (I think).
Hint: The building in the background shows the location to be Copenhagen's Kastrup Airport
(https://s4.postimg.cc/pezve5yv1/SASQuiz05.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hz0lsdb5l/)
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Lamehawk , you got a mean streak 8)
Benno
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Rohrbach Ro-IX Rofix?
Best regards - Mike
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Right you are Big Brother - your turn
Due to the restrictions on the German aircraft industry after WW1, some of the companies moved out of the country.
Rohrbach went to Copenhagen.
The Turkish government ordered 50 Ro-IX and two prototypes were built. However after a couple of crashes nothing further came of it.
(https://s21.postimg.cc/yhzzyxp4n/0_1d506a_91bc559f_orig.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yhzzyxp4j/)
(https://s27.postimg.cc/cnj0sgzur/0_1d5066_8e798edc_orig.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7ovidxw1r/)
(https://s2.postimg.cc/t57m8ub6h/0_1d5067_ac523aac_orig.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6gif99tsl/)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/66lixascv/0_1d5068_7de0de6d_orig.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ashn5ndvv/)
(https://s7.postimg.cc/ft5qf6ph7/wwb_img5079.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hkypa38tz/)
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Thanks for confirmation LameHawk.
My wife is half danish so this really made me curious.
On we go, guess this:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/jln000egh/quest_2017-04-07.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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I didn't see anything flawed with the design other than the elevators being a bit small, but it seem like a really neat little plan that Ro-IX does.. :(
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That is a Stearman XA-21 with the streamlined cockpit
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American, concurrent of Douglas A-20, if my memory is correct... I just do not remember ! I think the constructor is more known for little airplanes, but not sure...
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Stearman XA-21
Absolutely right PvF, your turn 8)
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(https://s11.postimg.cc/ojlk77d0j/IMG_0167.jpg)
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Promavia Squalus? (You forgot to remove the reg)
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Correct, but I have an excuse. Right now I'm on my phone because my computer is kaput. I cannot remove the reg because the phone wont let me.
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That is a cool little jet 8) I wish I had one in my car garage
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Can I take a rain check? I've got one I'd like to post but can't right now - open house
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Open house?
Okay here we go:
(https://s23.postimg.cc/pt65zhfrv/quest_2017-04-12.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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the lovely age of silver flying barrels with nene II jet engine! ;D
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Looks like you've got it loco
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I do not know what it is :-[... because in that silver age they are all very similar! :P
I'm making my first weapons as a modeler in one of these nice winged barrels. 8)
The low wing and the elevator in the fuselage make this one unique!
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It looks like North American had their way with a Vought Cutlass.
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the lovely age of silver flying barrels with nene II jet engine! ;D
Indeed :)
My favourite era of jet planes.
Nene is right too so you're damn close.
Now you can get the rest from a quick internet search ;)
Best regards - Mike
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Nord 2200
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Right so James, your turn 8)
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Give this a go:
(https://s24.postimg.cc/gemo3egxx/quest_it.jpg)
Have fun.
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That manufacturer is just around the corner for me 8)
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Fokker ?
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Back to my favourite period!
Blohm & Voss Ha 140
Not well known because the He-115 was chosen instead (which incidentally is a plane I would love to see in Il-2!)
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Correct
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Here is a new one:
(https://s27.postimg.cc/7z1a38m0j/SASQuiz06.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/a3ln4bnn3/)
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Bristol Brigand B.Mk.I RH806
These aircraft had a crew of 3 and had arrived at its final shape of having a Brigand body from an earlier design combined with Buckingham wings and tail. It was expected to reach 310 knots and climb on one engine to 12,000 ft. It was fitted with Centaurus IV's (derated) it was also fitted with A.I. This aircraft was built as a B.1, some B.1's were converted by the RAF as training aircraft for radar navigators. Some 600 were to be trined on Brigands. The Brigand survived in RAF use until March 1958 and was the last piston engined attack aircraft in service with the RAF. 147 Brigands were built, holding the fort in tropical climes where wooden aircraft were unsuitable. It was replaced by the Canberra.
These aircraft saw much active service in the Malayan jungle where they operated using both bombs and rockets
(https://s22.postimg.cc/4a3bevxld/p1502423232-5.jpg)
(https://s29.postimg.cc/urqoeq78n/G1953.jpg)
(https://s29.postimg.cc/fui7dpu07/G1044.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Absolutley right, Storebror - your turn
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I guess this means open house. ;)
This silver barrel is my first foray as a moder.
I still have to create the skin. :(
When I have it, I'll ask for help to see if it can be flyed ... :D
guess this!
(https://s18.postimg.cc/9if3ea3jt/render_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lx1velv1x/)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/sc0wba1rt/render_4_a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hcfozobcl/)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/vk9z22dfd/render_7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3k5vhs9yt/)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/h2cru2m49/render_8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pxdm4lawl/)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/gqvbhb5o9/render_9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8y4npbzp1/)
Super easy if someone read my answers in this thread :P
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It's pretty whatever it is.
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The Argentinian works of the big bad wolf - Kurt Tank.'s "Mapuche" - FMA IAe 33 Pulqui II
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Yep, its a Pulqui ;D A further design on the original 1945 plans for the Focke-Wulf Ta-183 "Huckebein".
That 3d-model looks very good. Congratulations Locopiston 8)
Its interesting that the development of the Ta-183 started as early as 1942.
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Looks a little like La-15.
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FMA IAe 33 Pulqui II
He is the Latin son of Huckebein and cousin of La-15.
Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMA_IAe_33_Pulqui_II.
(My 3d is better than the one in wikipedia). :P
This is the video presentation ...
Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNi5hQ2kxVo
Put the subtitles, the story is hilarious!
When I finish it, I hope you can help me to turn it into a functional mod. ;)
You turn Dreamk!
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Ok. Let's go back a little in time - to biplanes (I have a well known weakness for these planes) - This one flew in the Far East ;)
(https://s4.postimg.cc/463ol1w9p/Red_Army_V2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6nffsbg61/)
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That's interesting because the design looks rather U.S. built or at least influenced.
Best regards - Mike
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Mike, your' re great! ;D This is indeed the right way to approach a plane recognition problem. :)
You have put your finger in the right place - go a little further with your thinking and you'll know what and where to look for ;)
I'll give you a lead: when and where - time and place are critical elements for this recognition - the uniforms and mention "Far East" are a very good clue (if you know the answer :D) but can be misleading if taken at the first level - you'll need also to ask why them, why then and why there.
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Ooo, a difficult one Dreamk ::(
Thought it was a Anatra....but the engine is wrong
General appearance is of a Salmson.......but the engine casing is wrong (removed ?)
Was this photo taken in Vladivostock ?
Anything to do with the American invasion of Russia ?
Cheers
Alfie
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Anything to do with the American invasion of Russia ?
That could be a good hint.
The Siberian Intervention, 1918-1920, that might fit.
I'm not that much into uniforms and answering the question "where" is out of reach to me.
I don't think the Canadians had airplanes with them, the british troops would have used their own as well as the japanese, the chinese... no clue.
So this could be a plane of the U.S. expedition force (obviously) or, a bit more odd, one from the Czech since at that time they've started to build up a small air force partly equipped with U.S. built airplanes.
But that's all just wild guessing.
Best regards - Mike
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Ok - so, let's see what you have already discovered - Logic is a great thing and you use it wisely:
1) Siberia is the place, or more exactly the Russian Far East - the Sino-Mongol and Korean border areas. Area centered around Vladivostok and Khabarosvk
2) Time is correct - this photo was taken after the end of the fighting there - 1920 may be even 1921 - The main fighting took place Between December 1918 and January 1920
3) US built plane - yes but underwent a transformation in the hands of his last user. BTW this plane is apparently the only one among its brothers that was so transformed. The transformation was intended to answer the lack of spare parts for the original engine.
4) Czech - well, let say that the second users of the plane were the Czech Legions. In one year time this specific plane had 4 successive users and quite a saga behind it and its brothers.
May be I can show you how one of its brothers looked a couple of months before this photo was taken....still with its original engine (the original engine of the specific plane in the photo was a straight 6 cylinders that the Soviet replaced very fast by one of their Salmson that equipped the planes they had in the Far East - no problem of small part as it was produced in Russia and was a very trusted engine - the cowling may have been a cut-off Sopwith Strutter cowling as this was the main plane used by the Soviet in the area).
Taken in Moscow in 1920:
(https://s1.postimg.cc/6kq7hbp8f/Moscow_1920.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f2znlnvqz/)
and these ones taken in Il2 skies some time ago ;D:
(https://s16.postimg.cc/fz2unal1x/Image6.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/3x7gt5btd/) (https://s16.postimg.cc/vyli6uh3p/Image5.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/4o06yxe6p/)
Ah yes - sorry for the debugging messages, but this plane has been flying in the skies of Il2 for quite a time as I have used it to help me finalizing the java of WW1 engines, adding them a few goodies. :P
So now....what is this plane?
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these ones taken in Il2 skies some time ago ;D:
Woops... which plane is that?
Never saw it in IL2...
Best regards - Mike
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Well, It has been flying in my own very private Il2 skies - I''l upload it at some point, still having a couple of things I want to complete with it.
In the meantime, it seems that this plane remains an identification mystery, so,,,without giving its name, let's tell a little more of the saga of this "Mysterious Bird":
Two dozens of the Mysterious Birds had been delivered to Czechoslovak Legions in Siberia in 1919.
Engine installations of these aircraft varied. There were 'small' and 'large' versions of the Mysterious Bird , the "small" version having a shortened wingspan (like the Soviet machine seen on this photograph). However this specific aircraft. is not airplane directly captured as a booty by Soviets, but left over at the end of a very strange deal....The whole story is a mad mad one :P:
A Four Act Play
Location - The Plains of Siberia Time - early 1920s
First Act:
First half of January 1919, 132 crates with the Mysterious Birds plus other material were downloaded in Vladivostok from three American ships to train wagons of the Czechoslovak legion :D.
The American ships were:
Venezuela - on December 19th, 1918 (Jan 1st ,1919 by Gregorian calendar),
Sheridan - on December 26th, 1918,
Santa Cruz - on December 26th, 1918.
The 25 Mysterious Birds delivered came from:
- 11 from Ellington Field,
- 10 from Kelly Filed,
- 1 from Chenute Field,
- 3 from St. Paul (with xxxxx3 engines)
All spare parts came from Kelly Field price per aircraft - 8.600 USD, price of xxxxx1 engine - 3 760 USD
Two weeks later the Czech opened crates to disclose second hand aircraft, often worn or damaged. The very first flight caused two crewmen serious injuries and the destruction of the plane. ::(
The Americans had used the opportunity to get rid of some useless machines. When the delivery arrived to Siberia, it was accompanied by two US officers, who expressed some skepticism about their airworthiness. The Czechs got the officers drunk and searched their baggage. They found documents showing the planes had been withdrawn from various flying schools as worthless and were resold instead of being trashed. It was a miracle some of them could be convinced to fly. >:(
Four almost complete aircraft (numbers 2,3,4,7) left Vladivostok on January 10th, 1920 on board of Hvan Yih ship, heading for Czechoslovakia.
Second Act:
In spring 1919 The Czech Legions began to leave Siberia. They looked for buyers for the equipment they could not or did not want to take with them on their way home.
The purchaser was ...White Russian Siberian Kolchak Army!
Having paid originally to the US 12.700 USD per aircraft , the Czechs craftily raised price for their White Russians buyers up to 13.000 USD !!! ;D. These bought 18 aircraft.
Third Act:
Planes were been handed out to the newly established 14th and 15th Air Corps, but its introduction took quite a time, as planes proved true to their unflattering reputation. Three accidents and two catastrophes (catching fire in flight) happened during 1919 summer killing four airmen .
Kolchak's 14th Air Corps re-equipped by French Sopwiths, and the Mysterious Aircrafts were handed over to over White Russian units:
- two to the Manchurk Air Corps
- three to the Kugran training unit.
- Two were left in storage until the Soviets arrived.
The 15th Air Corps with seven aircraft was the only White Russian Mysterious Aircrafts' equipped unit to reach the front in late July... achieving 15 operational flights with a lot of troubles. Aktubinsk airfield was cut off by the Soviets in September. When the fuel reserves became exhausted, Kolchaks airmen burned the remaining planes :(.
Fourth Act:
The aircraft found by the Soviet, included the version shown on this photo.
It was apparently soon re-engined by the Russian with an engine they produced and had plenty of spare parts for, most probably a Salmson radial - and a cowling, probably from a Sowpith Strutter, the main plane used by the Soviets in Siberia 8).
Epilogue:
The sole Mysterious Aircraft survivor is a bit confusing mixture assembled from the four aircraft shipped from Vladivostok .
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Very close to the design of the Aeromarine 39B and
the Vought VE-7SF 2-F-16
But not those :P
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It definitely has the classic lines of the Curtiss Jenny so I'd have to say the J-1 or JN-2. :)
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this aircraft LWF Model V Tractor
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stiv_069 beat me to it by a few seconds - congratulations! 8)
Czechoslovak legion
(...)
The 25 Mysterious Birds delivered
Ah... *facepalm* it's been right in our face all the time:
L.W.F. Engineering Company Model V "Tractor".
The aircraft found by the Soviet, included the version shown on this photo.
It was apparently soon re-engined by the Russian with an engine they produced and had plenty of spare parts for, most probably a Salmson radial - and a cowling, probably from a Sowpith Strutter, the main plane used by the Soviets in Siberia 8).
Yes... that was a "V-2" tractor, originally equipped with a Hall-Scott 165hp engine, retrofitted with a Salmson radial engine (9 series me thinks). The wing was cut in the middle to give a better FOV and AFAIK the ailerons have been modified too. Maybe there's even a bottle-holder for Vodka in the Cockpits, who knows?
Epilogue:
The sole Mysterious Aircraft survivor is a bit confusing mixture assembled from the four aircraft shipped from Vladivostok .
That should be this one:
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/8204/8241704863_6e7b9b60a0_o.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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WOW :o Great find !
I never seen this one before.
(http://www.99traveltips.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/beer-cheers.jpg)
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Indeed!
The L.W.F. Model V Tractor is a single-engine two-seat trainer and reconnaissance biplane aircraft produced by the American manufacturer L.W.F. Engineering Company, (Lowe, Willard, Fowler).
Company initials were those of the founders and not, as often thought, from "Linen, Wood, and Fabric" or "Laminated Wood Fuselage."
Initial machines used a 135-hp Thomas V-8. The different versions differ by the installed engine V = Thomas 135 hp, V-1 = Sturtevant 140 hp, V-2 = Hall-Scott 165 hp, V-3 = Sturtevant 200 h
The sole LWF survivor is a Czech machine preserved at Prague National Technical Museum, being presumably serial 12893 (from 12883 - 12894 late 1917 batch). However this plane, displayed at NTM after having been repainted as the number ´4´ of Siberian fame, is a mixture assembled from the four aircraft shipped from Vladivostok.
(https://s21.postimg.cc/jbz6rk97b/LWF_data.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ghw1e470z/)
and here are the original drawings for this aircraft
(https://s7.postimg.cc/vmbfiavij/LWF_patent_deposited_1918_granted_1921.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/djicr2znr/)
and the description published in Flight in 1917:
(https://s27.postimg.cc/kacdwiqib/LWF_Flight_1.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/rqbnibe7j/)
(https://s27.postimg.cc/u6dgw5wab/LWF_Flight_2.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/bqszyri5r/)
(https://s23.postimg.cc/jq3xbhh8b/LWF_Flight_3.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/56wsa2o3b/)
(https://s14.postimg.cc/ko4krvapt/LWF_Flight_4.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/yhsxgx3b1/)
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And these come from a L+K monography (in Czech of course) on this plane and its variants
(https://s16.postimg.cc/cm8hnbhdh/LWF_L_K_monography_1.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/9s5c9vf75/)
(https://s16.postimg.cc/r6pki5cc5/LWF_L_K_monography_2.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/p257h2apd/)
(https://s16.postimg.cc/tpb9ity2d/LWF_L_K_monography_3.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/m9bzx1acx/)
(https://s16.postimg.cc/4s7w1x9kl/LWF_L_K_monography_color.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/4s7w1x9kh/)
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Hi all,
congratulations to all involved in that hunt. Really enjoyed this one!
Regards
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+1
Thank you for the most fiendishly arcane GWIDH ever ! :D
Dreamk = Genius
Cheers
Alfie
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Looks like stiv yet has to figure what the quest game is all about.
According to the rules we've stalled so it's an open round.
This in an easy one to get things started again:
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/2940/33430077803_8f9de620f5_o.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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F-35 :D
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F-35 :D
Each and every droptank on the image would feel offended, let alone the beauty carrying them ;)
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Thank God it was easy! :o
I thought it was a bomber, at first... it was clearly a draw, not a real plane, and it screamed USAF, and, I thought, '60s. Turns out I was wrong: it's a fighter and it was proposed in the '50s....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_XF-108_Rapier
Beautiful aircraft, too, a shame it wasn't put in production!
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Absolutely right Gianky, your turn :)
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Thanks!
Doesn't have to be military or a liner, right? Anything with wings (static or moving) goes?
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Let's try with this one...
(https://s11.postimg.cc/wxil2gu03/Whazzit.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6cg26wrmn/)
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That should almost certainly be Fiorenza, no?
Her, no joke:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/48hzfv0up/Fiorenza_Bernadi.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Mike, I thought I knew everything about airplanes, before I met you! :D
She is, definitely. ;)
P.S. You and other awesome guys like P51vFW190 and the rest of the bunch.
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Thanks for the flowers Gianky ;)
The question remains: What plane is she posing in front of?
Best regards - Mike
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This really is a cutie.
The plane, I mean.
Haven't run into this before, but it seems to be
Partenavia P-53 Aeroscooter
I know absolutely nothing about it
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Kids with real toys
(https://s7.postimg.cc/q1es0q2nf/woodason1stprize.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tl0pqj5d3/)
Although I might be asking what the planes are (I won't - too easy), if my answer is accepted I'll see if I can find something interesting
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<snip> it seems to be
Partenavia P-53 Aeroscooter
I know absolutely nothing about it
You're right, LameHawk, it's the Aeroscooter.
As for its story, you can find some info on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partenavia_Aeroscooter
It was designed in the '50s after a Mario De Bernardi's idea, a smail economical aircraft to promote flying for everyone; only a prototype was built, by Partenavia (Prof. Luigi Pascale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Pascale)'s first firm, before Tecnam, which, nowadays, builts ultralights, LSAs and GA aircrafts sold all over the world). De Bernardi went on to design and built a two seats version with a company specifically created for it (you'll find a link in the above Wikipedia page), but production never started: on April 8th, 1959, while flying his creation over Rome Urbe airport, De Bernardi had a heart attack. He managed to land his aircraft, but died minutes later.
The woman in the picture is De Bernardi's daughter, Fiorenza, the first Italian woman to become an airline pilot (and one of first in the world, it was 1967). Mario De Bernardi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_de_Bernardi) was one of the most famous Italian pilots of the Golden Age of aviation, WWI fighter pilot, Schneider Trophy racer (and winner),test pilot and recordman.
As you can see, that little plane linked together so much of Italian aviation history.
I hope I have satisfied a bit your curiosity, Lamehawk. Your turn to expand our collective knowledge of the best activity in which the human race ever endeavoured!
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Gianky,
Thank you for the kind words. It really means a lot to me. I live in a house where no one wants to hear me breathe a word of anything having to do with aicraft. Seeing that you think I'm knowlegdable on the subject moves me immensely.
Thank you my friend,
James
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Also LameHawk,
Those planes are the Short-Mayo Composite consisting of the flying boat Maia and the seaplane Mercury.
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Thanks Gianky
That's very interesting.
I think I've said it before, but: always eager to learn.
And P51vsFw190 you are right. Much too easy to ask for identification, so here is something much more obscure:
(https://s10.postimg.cc/ogr0vryix/SASQuiz07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wm92txmrp/)
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Ah, an ancient J-20 :D
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In a sense you are not far off
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LameHawk,
That is the Chu X-P0 indigenous Chinese fighter.
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Looks like it was too easy after all. ;D
Your turn
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(https://s29.postimg.cc/puze39347/Questomundo.jpg)
Have fun.
Cheers!
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Still in China!
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I can neither confirm nor deny these allegations........(yes, still China)
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I'm flashed 8)
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Oh come on, its not that difficult.
Ill give you a hint:
A plane similar to this raced under the name of a type of bread with an Irish theme.
Thats a pretty big hint.
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And I'm still Flashed ;)
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I'd say it's a Bellanca 28-90 "Flash" - a single example (some say 2) also flew in Spain in the GCE as a high speed recco plane.
Flew also in China (or rather was destroyed on the ground by the Japanese) and Mexico (22 ex Spanish order aircrafts armed with bombs and MGs).
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That is a good looking design on that airplane. It looks like late 1930s design.
I have no idea what it might be.
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You got it DreamK.
Your turn
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Ok - let see this one:
(https://s24.postimg.cc/jjb3asq8l/aircraft.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/k8tvn5qs1/)
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I know it but someone slse should have a turn.
P.S. he should really fix his top wing. It could have some adverse aerodynamic effects on the performance.
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This looks quite similar to a Fokker CX (radial) or a Gloster Gauntlet. I am guessing this aircraft is a variant of one of these two.
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Well it had indeed a huge cowling - around 1.4m, as the Fokker C.X (Bristol Pegasus XII 1.3m diameter), but iots not a Fokker nor a Bristol design.
As a matter of fact it has quite number of common points with Bellanca 28-90 "Flash" of the preceding guess. This is a huge clue, but I warn you, this is a maybe very misleading clue if not understood adequately ;)
How did they succeed to get such a damage to the upper wing leading edge with the rest of the plane intact is the most puzzling question I have kept asking myself - except a mid-air collision with a another plane flying alongside and above them :P...maybe they met a tough bird - well they flew in a country where there are indeed a lot of strange birds ;D.
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DreamK,
You are an evil genius. I'm just gonna stand with you and watch this unfold while giggling the entire time. And while I'm at it, do you want a drink? Because this might take a while.
James
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Yes, I just made myself some coffee - I'm a coffee drinker 8)
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As am I, just thought id ask.
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This is apparently an unfamiliar airplane. The markings are screwing me up, I'm sure this was intentional on your part.
Don't have time to research this, I'm just going to watch too.
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Well,to tell the truth, I indeed chose a pic where the underwing markings are badly seen, but the tail markings are a very good clue
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I think it is a Vought SBU-1 with a P&W R-1535 radial in a long chord cowling.
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You are very close :) , indeed!
But this is a Pratt & Whitney R-1340 engine not a R-1535 :(. You need to go back a few more years in time.
So you have identified:
1) that the looks are of an American plane
2) but not in American service - look at the tail insignia, the uniforms (or what can be seen of them) and the general "atmosphere" of the picture - a kind of nonchalant attitude of the pilots in front of this difficult to explain (and maybe to achieve) damage of the upper wing leading edge - the one on the left seems posing for a "photo souvenir".
3) and the engine is a Pratt & Whitney R-1340 Wasp
Now, remember what I said about the common points with the Bellanca 28-90 "Flash". ;) ...and about strange birds in these skies ;D
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Vought V-99M, or a locally produced TCNA Azcarate. Can't tell if they are identical or if the mexican version had some differences.
From what i've found, this specific plane suffered non-combat damage during Cedillo's revolution, 1938/39
S!
A1_Phoenix
(more edit: the previous Bellanca was also used: http://drsamuelbanda.blogspot.it/2013/06/la-aviacion-mexicana-en-la-rebelion.html)
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Yes! A Vought V-99, the export version of the Vought O2U Corsair (Corsair was a name that Vought gave to an incredible number of different planes!).
Like the Bellanca it fought in the skies of China and Mexico and was bought by the Spanish Republic - a couple apparently were delivered but never flew in Spanish skies.
In March 1929, Mexico purchased 12 armed aircraft O2U-2M versions with the 400 hp (300 kW) Wasp engine to quell a military coup; Mexico then built 31 more units under licence, and called them Corsarios Azcárate O2U-4A. In 1937, Mexico purchased 10 V-99M equipped with the Pratt & Whitney R-1340-T1H-1 550 hp Wasp engine, some of them may have been sent to Spain.
China purchased the 42 export versions of O2U-1 from 1929–1933, and 21 export versions of O3U between 1933–1934 and they saw extensive bombing actions. The O2U-1 versions participated in the Central Plains War and in the January 28 Incident against the Japanese targets, while the O3U versions first participated in the Battle of Pingxingguan to support the Chinese ground forces, and later against the Japanese targets in Shanghai.
Thailand used their V-99 in the Battle of Ko Chang against the French navy.
It's your turn Phoenix :)
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Thank you dreamk :)
Unfortunately i'm still unable to submit a quiz (my home pc is -again- out of order :( ), only workplace machines until... TBA, i fear.
So, open round! 8)
S!
A1_phoenix
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Since it's an open round and I would have been wrong with my guess of the V93s to the prior quest lets try this one.
(https://s14.postimg.cc/mg75a6l0x/Quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cvninavot/)
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That's an F-35 (in the background, invisible)
Cheers!
Mike
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Yes but you need to be a little more specific as to which version of F-35 this is Mike. ;) :P
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Isn't that just good ol' Jenny?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_JN-4
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Not exactly,
See the difference in rudder shape and of the type of engine and semi cowl.
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Yeah, the rudder looks like the one used in the Canadian version; engine and cowling looks different, but I can't really make them out well in that picture... guess I'll have to dig deeper on the Internet! ;)
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Quite a few things like the tail shape, the top wing bracing and partly the shape of the engine remind me of a "Standard J", mostly the J-1, but it's not that one precisely.
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/2817/33566022303_d9a463248f_o.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/4186/34335148276_40b19ff46d_o.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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The rudder shape looks more like the Canadian version:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Curtiss_JN-4_CAN.jpg
As for the braces on the top wing they indeed look triangular, unlike the ones on the Jenny, and the cowling it's similar to the Standard J, but not quite like it... I can't find a picture of the JN-5H, a single exemple built before the JN-6H: could be it?
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Hint... This is not of Jenny lineage. ;)
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Strange - I can remember running into this particular picture not long ago.
It is an Aeromarine 39
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Good one LameHawk.
This is indeed an Aeromarine 39
The Aeromarine 39 was an American two-seat training seaplane ordered by the US Navy in 1917 and built by the Aeromarine Plane and Motor Company of Keyport, New Jersey. Of conventional biplane configuration and construction, the aircraft was designed so that its pontoons could be speedily detached and replaced with wheeled undercarriage for shore operations.
Fifty of the original design (later referred to as the 39A) were produced, featuring twin floats and powered by a Hall-Scott A-7 engine. A redesign followed, increasing the wingspan to create more lift for water take-offs. This became known as the 39B. Other changes included a change to a single pontoon with outrigger floats, an enlarged vertical tail, and a change of powerplant to the Curtiss OXX.
On October 26, 1922 Godfrey DeCourcelles Chevalier landed a 39B on a moving ship, USS Langley, the first time this had been achieved on an American aircraft carrier. Trials of underway carrier takeoffs and landings continued through 1922 and 1923. Wikipedia
(https://s4.postimg.cc/nt4kgnn4d/KM258.0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/elcbzyg21/)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/qq6u0ql4v/Aeromarine_39_on_USS_Langley_CV-1_1923.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ja7kexxff/)
Your go.
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Maybe difficult for some
(https://s15.postimg.cc/s933kjnaz/SASQuiz08.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4uv48m5dj/)
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That looks to me like a Kangaroo . A CAC 15 Kangaroo to be exact. ;)
(https://s23.postimg.cc/eiy9vp20r/cac-ca-15-flight.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8i0kymfef/)
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You are much too quick! ;)
Over to you
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Thanks LameHawk. ;D
I got nothing at the moment so open roound. ;)
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open roound. ;)
Well then, let's give this one a try:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/8hv3ywut1/quest_2017-05-04.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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This franken between mosie and blenheim with square tail is really hard to guess! o_O
Usually when there a mixture so ugly and rare was made, is in Argentina ... but this is not the case. ;)
Where will this strange machine be? :(
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Argentina
A good hint, in a way.
Go to the southern end of it, then the origin country of this quest´s bird is just the antipode ;)
Best regards - Mike
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So it's Chinese
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maybe Manshu? :-[
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Interesting. ;)
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In the shaker we can add the manshu ki 96, to bring the tail :P
But we do not know where that nose comes from ... :(
Also seems older, contemporary of the blenheim :-|
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So it's Chinese
Absolutely no.
I said "southern end of it", that´s Ushuaia for instance:
https://www.antipodesmap.com/share/bd09b45937c34c65c240dd1cac6cf336
Best regards - Mike
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Too far north. Woops. I was looking at my map wrong. Sovietski it is.
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Although it is my preferred period, I have never seen this thing before. Very interesting.
As was the link to the Antipodes map. Never knew there was such a thing. Takes away some of my lament of not owning a globe :D
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With all this help :( I finally made it.
Yakovlev Yak-200
A nasty one ;D
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Absolutely right LameHawk, congratulations!
This by the way was the original photo:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/yohx81gbv/yak-200-kr1.jpg)
Your turn 8)
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That Yak-200 and similar Yak-210 is training bomber planes from 1953.
Purpose - learn Tu-2 crews for djet bombers Il-28 ( Yak210 esp for navigator and bombardier training)
But in 1956 all works cancelled Was made successfull IL-28U for training.
Modifikation Yak -200(-210)
Wingspan, m 17.46
Plane lengt,m 12.95
Plane height,m 5.12
Wing,m2 36.00 (26.00)
Mass, kg
Empty 3990 (4542)
Maximalon take off 4795 (5422)
Engines 2 X PD ASh-21
Power capacity, h/p 2 x 700
Maximum speed, km/h
on height 395
ground flight 360
Pracktick range, km 1340
Pracktick height, m 7500
Crew 3(4)
Armament (for Yak-210): Bomb load - 300 kg
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/other/yak200/yak200-2.jpg)
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/other/yak200/yak200-4.jpg)
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/other/yak200/yak200-5.jpg)
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/other/yak200/yak200-3.jpg)
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/other/yak200/yak200-1.gif)
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A slightly odd one
(https://s13.postimg.cc/uvhlo376r/SASQuiz09.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uvhlo376r/)
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Burnelli CBY-3
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You are right P51 - your turn
Original picture:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/58eun90v1/SASQuiz0005.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/58eun90v1/)
From http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/GauthierDavidJ/8080.htm (http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/GauthierDavidJ/8080.htm)
08/15/2008. Remarks by Johan Visschedijk: "Aircraft with lifting fuselages has been a trademark of Vincent J. Burnelli (born Temple, Texas, USA) for over four decades, the Remington-Burnelli RB-1 was the first to fly in 1921, however, none of these designs went beyond the prototype stage. The design had the advantage to shorten the takeoff distance considerably, and would it make useful in bush operations, hence the Canadian Car & Foundry (CCF) acquired the manufacturing rights for the Uppercu-Bernelli UB-14 in 1936, however, it was not build by the company.
Lowell Yerex of New Zealand had founded Transportes Aéreos Centro-Americanos (TACA) in Honduras in 1931. He reached an agreement with CCF in 1943 for the construction of twenty aircraft to TACA's specification, and Vincent Burnelli was contracted for design assistance. The design was designated CBY-3 to indicate the names and number of participants: CCF, Burnelli, and Yerex. Burnelli Aircraft designed the spacious lifting fuselage with seating capacity for twenty-four passengers in four rows, and CCF undertook the wind-tunnel testing and detail design.
Registered CF-BEL-X the prototype had its 1 hr 55 min maiden flight from Cartierville, Montreal, Quebec, Canada, on July 17, 1945, with Clyde E. Pangborn and V.J. 'Shorty' Hatton at the controls. By that time, Yerex had been forced out Honduras and the TACA order was cancelled. Powered by two 1,200 hp Pratt & Whitney R-1830-S1C3-G Twin Wasp fourteen-cylinder two-row air-cooled radials, the aircraft proved to be underpowered, it was re-engined with two R-2000 Twin Wasp radials and flown again by Hutton on May 10, 1946.
In February 1947 CCF formed a subsidiary, Cancargo Aircraft Manufacturing Co. Ltd., entirely to develop and eventually produce the aircraft that was from then marketed as the Cancargo CAM-1 Loadmaster. It was evaluated by the USAF at Wright Field on June 22, 1948, proving it had limited utility as a cargo aircraft. In 1951 Cancargo suspended all activities to certify the aircraft and it was exported to the USA, where is was registered to the Central Aircraft Corp. of New York (the successor to Burnelli Aircraft) as N17N on February 9. In July 1952 it was re-engined with two 1,700 hp Wright R-2600-8 Cyclone radials. The company name changed to Burnelli Avionics and then to Ballard Aircraft Corp.
Despite some proving flights in Canada in 1955 and Venezuela in 1957, no orders were forthcoming and the aircraft made its last flight on December 8, 1959 to Friendship Airport, Baltimore, Maryland, where it became an engineless derelict. In 1973 it was acquired by the Connecticut Aeronautical Historical Association with the intension to restore it for display at the Bradley Air Museum, (now the New England Air Museum) in Windsor Locks, Connecticut.
01/31/2015. Over the winter of 2012/2013, the long awaited restoration of the aircraft was finally started and is presently in an advanced state at the New England Air Museum."
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Lame, I am part of the restoration team. We have almost finished the cockpit controls.
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Give me an hour, i need to think of something.
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Here you go:
(https://s1.postimg.cc/sonxpdtov/Questo.jpg)
And P.S., This is real!
James
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That would be the Piasecki PA-97 James :)
The Piasecki PA-97 Helistat was an American experimental heavy-lift aircraft, built by Piasecki by fastening four H-34J helicopters to a framework beneath a helium-inflated blimp envelope. It crashed during a test flight, killing one of the four pilots. Wiki
(https://s12.postimg.cc/oqbsynrst/Piasecki_PA-97-34_J_Heli-_Stat_03.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/zd5m42zy1/)
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It's almost like you were reading the same article as I posted.
You're up!
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;D Nah I just remembered seeing this one while doing a search last week. Freaky that you picked this one though. ;)
Try this one.
(https://s4.postimg.cc/e7h3gc3vh/Quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4mxgtgejd/)
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Judging by the tail, it looks French to me ......
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Yep, got it...
Breguet Br-690, and this is the Br-691... under new management .... ;)
(http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/Avions4/Br691-74f+.jpg)
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But the wheels and cockpit aren't the same
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Right track. Wrong horse G; ;D
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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d4/f0/be/d4f0be7aa3cd3cdfe0a60e4dd36dcb1f.jpg)
As I said ......
Breguet Br-690, .................................... and this is the Br-691... under new management ....
(http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/Avions4/Br691-74f+.jpg)
:D :D :D :D :D
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/me thinks Glynn is right 8)
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Edlor knows Glynn is incorrect. ;)
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I side with Edlor. I know what it is, however, I am not guessing because I have already gone recently. Good one Edlor.
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Well the actual picture you post is listed as the Breguet Br-690 in my archives ... but those professional aircraft historians eh... wtf do they know... :-|
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hey
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One incorrectly listed image does not for a correct answer make. :D Try again ;)
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Actually it's a competitor of the Br-690, the SNCAC NC-600.
Best regards - Mike
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Perhaps a touch of nitpicking here - how about a new one?
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Absolutely correct Mike. Nicely done. ;)
The SNCAC NC-600 was a prototype French twin-engined long-range fighter aircraft, developed by SNCAC from the earlier Hanriot H.220 fighter. The type never entered service, with development being ended by the French surrender in June 1940. Wiki
Your go. :)
(https://s14.postimg.cc/pv0g4jx75/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yq1af2lzh/)
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Thanks Edlor.
Let's give this one a try:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/5fau4a60f/quest_2017-05-09.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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The French made such an incredible large number of floatplanes at that time: Must be a
Borel hydro-monoplane
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That was fast. Amazing fast. And absolutely correct ;)
Your turn LameHawk!
Best regards - Mike
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Despite the "camouflage" I think this ought to be easy
(https://s22.postimg.cc/umdopj0r5/SASQuiz10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7xohpyjd9/)
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Guessing the chase plane type would be the icing on the cake 8)
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I'm afraid the chase plane is a bit beyond me. I wouldn't be able to confirm the type :(
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You have PM :)
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Full movie
http://megogo.net/ru/view/1363441-sluchay-v-kvadrate-36-80.html
clip
https://youtu.be/PVHJKo5S-RQ
The plane is an actor who plays the role of Orion.
It is a film with a subject similar to the submarine incident kursk but in reverse.
Very cold times.
It is an IL-38 (Orion role) escorted by two Tu-16E
The movie was a supersuccess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Map_Grid_36-80
(https://s14.postimg.cc/v5ii22hkh/36-80_Poster.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/v5ii22hkd/)
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Looks like loco nailed it, but let's wait for LameHawk's confirmation.
Best regards - Mike
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Oh - I can only confirm.
I haven't seen the film (I will now!), so Loco's excellent answer provides him with the responsibility to find the next plane
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Lately I've been missing out a lot ... :-[
But this time I'm sure. 8) The movie confirms it.
The performances are worthy of all the prizes of the universe! :P
Let's try this ... it's supereasy.
(https://s16.postimg.cc/5v3z9qpkl/guess09.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mivhc8kc1/)
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Nice dramatic picture
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That is the Bell L-39 Wing Sweep Evaluator.
Here is the full story: http://thanlont.blogspot.com/2011/04/bell-l-39-wing-sweep-evaluation.html
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EvK6-Obn5e8/TamK6MT1w9I/AAAAAAAABH0/ohRWLiLMBwQ/s1600/L-39-1+upper+rear+web.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ak_Hc2J_nyM/Taphc-8q1HI/AAAAAAAABIg/AhodthWGrDo/s1600/L-39-2+Unslotted+Wing+75867.JPG)
(http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/wp-content/gallery/sweep-cobra/el-1997-00171.jpg)
(http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/L-39.jpg)
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Yup
The mariana guys were afraid to land, flying slow, something with sweep wings on an aircraft carrier and have made this thing to try.
Paradogically the wing was to fly slow ... that's why the landing gear is fixed.
You turn P51vsFw190!
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Give me one night and I'll have something exquisite!
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Here you go:
(https://s23.postimg.cc/db2lpt82j/Good_Luck.jpg)
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(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/la/starliner/starliner-4.jpg)
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There is no way you got it that fast! No way in hell!
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No way in hell!
Who says Glynn comes from hell? :))
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Mike, your humor once again saves the day.
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Also,
Technically he didnt guess at all, he just posted a picture.
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I over-reacted.........again. Sorry all. :(
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Back to the quest.
Here you go:
(https://s23.postimg.cc/db2lpt82j/Good_Luck.jpg)
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The subtle cowling difference looks interesting.
Your quest picture seems to show S/N NX21725 with an experimental version of the "UNITWIN" engine comprising two coupled 194kW Menasco C6S-4 inline engines.
Glynn's picture would be the production model "UNITWIN" engine with enclosed exhaust pipes.
Best regards - Mike
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Who says Glynn comes from hell?
More guys that you know..... ;)
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More guys that you know..... ;)
In that case it not only was a valid guess, it even came without surprise :P
Best regards - Mike
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Someone name the plane! I cant pick a winner without a valid guess.
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Someone name the plane
I'll call it "Charles" 8)
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seriously?
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Glynn's picture would be the production model "UNITWIN" engine with enclosed exhaust pipes.
Exactly ..... not quite the same aircraft ... just like the last time ... ;)
subtle eh ?
:D :D :D :D :D :D
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JGE,
I'm very sorry.
Youre on the right track though
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..... not "Charles" though .. more like Suzanne.....
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Hey!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIpF-RPw0pw
8)
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/VZt7J0iaUD0"
;)
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Stop beating around the bush! ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION! IDENTIFY THE PLANE!
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You know what?
FINE!
SAS~JGE52,
You got it!
It's the Lockheed Vega Starliner!
YOUR. DAMN. TURN!
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This thread seems to have spilled over into the Humour section ;D
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Oh yeah, haha, very funny >:(
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A good quest, some funny answers, nothing wrong with it, no?
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(https://s8.postimg.cc/f8wvahfed/Fun.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/flo9gnxo1/)
Meant for all the guest viewers of course
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Thats Fair. :P
GJE, your turn.
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In all fairness, l think you deserve another try.
This time I promise to take it seriously. :P
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Ok,
Ummm. Give me a minute.
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How about this then?
(https://s18.postimg.cc/uiyfc59ah/New_Quest.jpg)
Mike and Glynn, I putting my trust in you.
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the name is in the images :P
(https://s18.postimg.cc/mhsstpx49/harlow.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cx966u7s5/)
(https://s30.postimg.cc/ahf7lorwh/jackie-pasadena.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bjpe48app/)
I may have erred in the number :-[
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That is correct Locopiston
It is the Harlow PJC-2
Your turn.
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Taking into account its unique ability ...
is too easy.
(https://s29.postimg.cc/a4slflv1j/guess_10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xvryxpv8j/)
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Blackburn B20?
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yep!
is unique ;D
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(https://s12.postimg.cc/6xktee531/ndice.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oav3t90e1/)
Your turn now P51vsFw190!
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OK
(https://s2.postimg.cc/5zplrugyh/Questomundo.jpg)
One dear to me.
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fainally! :P
H-31 Doman 1953 Army evaluation utility helicopter - not accepted and used as VIP transport
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doman_LZ-5
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Correct! I helped to restore this one of a kind helicopter over the past few years.
Your turn Locopiston
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Thank you!
You've made me dive the depths of strange helicopters so now I put this :o
(https://s8.postimg.cc/3xr9flfc5/guess12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kliri3a3l/)
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Cessna Skyhook
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I liked this helicopter with nose and hood added.
you turn P51vsFw190!
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Open round!!!
Cheers!
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Open round!!!
Here we go:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/407k24ixr/quest_2017-05-11.jpg)
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Bristol 142
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Your turn ;)
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(https://s16.postimg.cc/luf2fk4lh/image.jpg)
Try it out
Should be easy
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Hawker blue... eh... tomtit :D
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It is the Tomtit.
Go ahead Mike
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Thanks. An easy one:
(https://s16.postimg.cc/tv3em443p/quest_2017-05-11-3.png)
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I'd say it's a Fairey Firefly T.Mk.II, given the 2-hispanos and underside photo (not showing the copy/paste 2nd cockpit?) :)
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Fairey Firefly T.Mk.II
Not exactly but close enough to make it your turn.
Actually it's the prototype Firefly T.1 "MB750".
Best regards - Mike
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Thank you Storebror :) wasn't sure if guns were installed on production T.Mk.Is but it've seen Mk.IIs with them :)
It's a much bad-looking plane, nevertheless :) "why not paste two fireflies together?"
so: fortunately i'm in lunch break so i have a contribution!
(http://i.imgur.com/yDBUlJ7.jpg)
S!
A1_phoenix
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Again a bit outside my usual turf.
But I have seen this slightly odd looking bird before.
Armstrong-Whitworth Wolf
A reconnaissance aircraft from 1923 which had the tough luck never to be ordered by the RAF
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And indeed it is, LameHawk! :)
it got my attention searching on interwar RAF Specifications, and it was strange enough to try. Of course, the shape is also strange enough to not be unseen, as in your case :)
yoooour turn!
S!
A1_Phoenix
(also, i'm about to buy a graphic card to repair my PC: it's difficult to find the right quiz without blanking down serials and roundels heheheh)
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I agree with you that it is absolutely necessary to hide serials and markings, but in this case I had just seen the plane before, not having to resort to the serial. I use a GTX 660 which may not be a Rolls Royce, but I have not run into its limits yet.
Anyway here is another slightly odd plane:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/4pb503o9t/SASQuiz11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ivqvvbz4t/)
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too bad i always had a soft spot for fuselage propellors, as in this Gallaudet D-4 ;)
S!
A1_Phoenix
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Yes it is. I just love that propeller in the middle of everything.
Your turn
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Thank you LH ;)
i've found a raw method to conceal markings. it's not nice, but effective, in the meantime hehehe
(http://i.imgur.com/nUqgx64.jpg?1)
S!
A1_Phoenix
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It looks like a fuselage of an Albatros D.6 would have put the wings and tail of a Fokker D.6 ... ;D
But the bottom is not Europe ... at least not in that period. :-|
The closest I found was the Waco Nine ... but it's not even close. :(
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After having googled for it (successfully), I can assure you that without google this is impossible to solve.
The plane isn't a genuine construction, it's a mod.
It has been built only once.
And this is the only image of it.
Only little is known about this plane at all.
Best regards - Mike
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Doing the same search mike found the same only source and only photo ... (26) :-[
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well, it seems Mike got the.. specimen? i must honestly say i posted the image "quick and dirty" without knowing it was the only one, of the ONLY ONE Rogers Monoplane from 1922. But it was still an interesting one, a (most probably) modded D.VII with Curtiss engine, monoplane, and over a typical USA background.
Of course that will teach me to.. uhm.. research a researchable (!) entry, i'm sorry for the unusual round, i hope it's legit.
Mike, your turn :)
S!
A1_Phoenix
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Thanks Phoenix but since I used Google and as I'm on a business trip currently, I'd like to offer this as an open round 8)
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OK, open round...
what is this airplane?
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/8e/e5/6d/8ee56dac301a0c3676dd0b0fb5c8afc4.jpg)
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Here is one true and interesting fact about this airplane type...
A Japanese Oil Tanker captain fell into a cactus at a Santa Barbara Oil Field, provoking laughter from the local workers.
Five years later he returned in an Imperial Japanese Navy sub and made the first mainland shelling of the USA at that oil field.
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Bonus points ....
Guess what aircraft ?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QTkRwGvZACc/VK_OiNdDDLI/AAAAAAACE_M/MK13_0XXzSI/s1600/33.jpg)
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E14Y Glen
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The second picture is a rare hybrid of a Cessna and a Ford pickup truck. Flight testing confirmed that the new contraption had poor stability and was prone to scaring the shit out of people on airfields.
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I find more fun following this thread than the other one dedicated to humour :D
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Agreed
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E14Y Glen
Very correct Radoye ! 8)
It is the classic seaplane (Submarine-airplane) the Yokosuka E14Y "Glen"
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokosuka_E14Y
(http://the-wanderling.com/redondo11.jpg)
It´s your turn to do the next mystery airplane.
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I got nothing at the moment, so free round. :)
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(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/mexchiwa/crop_zps7d5c4477.jpg)
From an unreleased WIP a few years ago...
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why the cokpit is open? o_O
(https://s13.postimg.cc/b9wzowzxj/mexichiwa107.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qveb8vbvn/)
This real picture will help
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You got it - anyone want to name it?
It was a WIP, so there were still some issues....
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What is that?
An airplane fuselage panel.
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(https://s28.postimg.cc/v4mcdfwq5/yf107_04.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x96peiycp/)
Is a F-107.
Is an F-107 but in the previous photos it appears as the configuration of an F-16, it means turned upwards! :P
yep was a fuselage panel and intake. ;)
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(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/mexchiwa/181120130-30-38_zpse3950549.jpg)
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/mexchiwa/0811201319-21-55_zps5d48db63.jpg)
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx226/mexchiwa/0811201319-18-24_zpsb4d1f8a4.jpg)
You got it, all yours
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This crappy plane is the fault of those who make me dive deep in internet searching for strange aircrafts. ;D
(https://s28.postimg.cc/vdlmgissd/guess16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5uta3i989/)
Enjoy!
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The world of the homebuilt is a strange one:
Wainfan FMX-4 Facetmobile
Found the picture, only the plane looks rather whitish
(https://s23.postimg.cc/4qdi47l2z/e11f6d691e6308444b0ff87d21602da1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xsrs717cn/)
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Perfect Lame hawk!
The mysterious gray was to make it look more selth! :P
You turn!
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A few sea planes lately. Here is another one:
(https://s2.postimg.cc/hgwkhe261/SASQuiz12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r1g749rhx/)
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WHAT THE..........I want one.
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De Schelde: Scheldemeeuw (meeuw = seagull)
Power plant: Praga B engine of 40 hp
Wing span: 6.78 m
Length: 5.32 m
All-up weight: 300 kg
Max. speed: 125 km/h at sea level
To find it I had to see an infinity of ugly ducks! o_O
Some were added to my collection ... ;D
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Yes loco - it's always nice to learn something, isn't it! ;)
Right - your turn again
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I'll leave macerating the ducks a little.
Now keep this out of the freezer, which has been kept long ago.
It is easy too.
(https://s21.postimg.cc/ykkxtq9iv/guess_11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9ejzmw88j/)
Enjoy!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-5
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yep Gianky!
the sukhoi version of MiG i-250 concept.
I think I should not use more the same photo as wikipedia ... ::(
You turn!
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I think I should not use more the same photo as wikipedia ... ::(
Nooooo, please, it's the only ones I can get! :D :D :D
Anyway, if it's any consolation, my first thought was a hybrid Yak, like the Yak 3RD; as a matter of fact, I stumbled upon it while searching for "yak mixed propulsion"! ;)
Anyway, here's my entry... I'm afraid it will be an easy one.
(https://s24.postimg.cc/egdkh62c5/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yazm3ahjl/) (https://postimage.io/index.php?lang=italian)
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De Havilland Canada DH.80A :-[
Im not sure :-|
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Clooooooooose!
But no cigar!
Guess it's harder than I thought.... my "forensic countermeasures" worked way better than I expected! :D
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The airframe could also belong to a Storch or a Criquet. The strange thing is the engine. :-[
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I'll hazard a guess then:
de Havilland DH.75 Hawk Moth
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I guess you nailed it:
http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft30721.htm
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Well done, Lamehawk, it is, indeed, the Hawk Moth.
I hoped the vague similarity with the Fi-156 could throw someone off track, looks like it did! :)
The engine is the DH Ghost. I simply flipped the image vertically, and that was enough to confuse Google reverse image search.
From "Flight", February 7th, 1929: https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1929/1929%20-%200243.html
Your turn, Lamehawk!
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OK - spot the oddity!
(not Space Oddity 8))
(https://s22.postimg.cc/9x01ks2dt/SASQuiz13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h07x0e7t9/)
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Extending wing (tip's)
Myguess
Benno :P
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Extending wing (tip's)
Myguess
Benno :P
You mean the bat-like shape of the mobile surfaces on the wing?
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Soviet, if my memory is good...
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LameHawk,
You are an evil man.
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LameHawk,
You are an evil man.
That doesn't sound good. At all! ;D ;D ;D
EDIT:
Extending wing (tip's)
Myguess
Benno :P
You mean the bat-like shape of the mobile surfaces on the wing?
I didn't get it... so, the wings are telescopic... russian design, I found a couple, NIAI RK and Gerin Varivol, the latter looks similar, but not quite the same...
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Gianky,
Ive been on the same track as you all day. I came across the NIAI designs and they are similar but not quite. May the airplane gods have mercy on our souls.
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Got it!
Makhonine Mak-10.
The picture was taken by the Nazis, it looks like:
http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/xplane/mak10/mak10-10.jpg
EDIT: it's not Russian, it's French
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makhonine_Mak-10
And, to be precise, it's the Mak-101, with the Gnome-Rhone 14K Mistral Major.
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Damn!
I was just about to post it!
Nice one Gianky
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Well done Gianky!
I have been following the comments with great interest - thanks for the compliment P51 LameHawk,
You are an evil man
It is a very interesting photo: a French aircraft - in German markings - and a Russian designer Ivan Ivanovic Makhonin (This machine doesn't like cyrillic letters)
A rather special configuration: telescopic wings.
Your turn ;D
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Thank you guys, it's been a difficult hunt, wouldn't have made it without everyone else's comments!
Ok, here's the next one:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/md6myxzup/MP2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/o4zltuj7h/)
I want to know not only the model, but specifically what example this is.
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Fouga CM.88 Gémeaux, I think...
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Fouga CM.88 Gémeaux, I think...
Yes. Which variant?
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Gémeaux I
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Correct! The Gémeaux I was the only one with two engines, all the subsequent prototypes had only a single jet, mounted on the center section of the wing.
Since the original question asked for the specific aircraft, I'm declaring MustangvsWürger as winner. Your turn!
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Try this
(https://s10.postimg.cc/4vw4egwyx/New_new.jpg)
James
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No idea.... But if you want to buy one, for just 25k €, in France... ;D
(http://www.planecheck.com/images/32527/img016194676041.jpg)
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gianky,
You don't know but you posted a picture of one?
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There is no way of he don't know ... next to the price is the name ;D
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I cannot give the win to someone untill the name of the plane is said.
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OOoook, sorry, I wanted to be funny, but I guess I was just obnoxious! :P
The aircraft is one of the classics of general aviation, the Luscombe 8 Silvaire.
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Correct!
Your turn!
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Ok, here you go!
(https://s14.postimg.cc/gygwmnon5/image.jpg)
(https://s2.postimg.cc/hhg86a9q1/MP1.jpg)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/b53ug6odr/MP2.jpg)
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SAI KZ IV
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As they always beat me for a few minutes .... :P
Skandinavisk Aero Industry SAI KZ IV
(https://s18.postimg.cc/l698k2x5l/KZ_IV_PLAN.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/zcozfb80l/)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/8g506zp7d/KZ_IV.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qvph4e3bp/)
Wooden beams are a Danish exquisite
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You're both correct, but, of course, the baton passes to James. Congrats!
I'll have to photoshop those pictures more heavily! :D
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Here it is:
(https://s13.postimg.cc/cgvzzji5j/today.jpg)
Cheers!
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I think is a Douglas Air Mail... know as Douglas M-(number).
Not is the M-1, because that was the civil version of O-2 and have 2 cockpits...
must be M-2 M-3 or M-4.
I'm going to risk M-4
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close but no cigar......try again
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It is very difficult for me to answer :-[
This is an M-2 in the original paint scheme. (red and silver)
(https://s14.postimg.cc/eyyrykv29/Mailplane_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mrpfqk119/)
This is an M-4A in its color scheme (very similar to the photo of the trivia) :(
(https://s13.postimg.cc/wvg4eyocn/Douglas_M-4_A_cn_338.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fi5u03t1f/)
And this is a restored M-2 ... which apparently painted it as an M-4 ... o_O
(https://s12.postimg.cc/prbv177jh/WAE_Douglas_M-2_Rest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/na03txnmx/)
The only one I'm sure is not is the M-3 ... because it's all white :P
Unless you can weigh the load and measure the engine hp it will be very difficult :D
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Loco, ill give it to you.
it is in fact an M-2
youre up
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Suuuper!
I won by tiredness! Like I do with the girls!
;D
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One of the beauties of my collection of batrachians
I have proof that he flew
enjoy!
(https://s14.postimg.cc/en2cawi81/guess29.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ijfo6w37h/)
(https://s14.postimg.cc/mh2xwaq0x/guess292.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qq7nygta5/)
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That is Bill Horton's wingless airplane
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Yep!
Here he complains about the plots against him
https://youtu.be/xgmHKfawTNg
You turn James!
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Try this on for size:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/anboifybj/IMG_0580.jpg)
Cheers!
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It should be the one seen at the end of Casablanca but it was replaced by a lockeed electra 12A, because in Holliwood it was more at hand.
(https://s2.postimg.cc/a9sopzgo9/1_Dai3f9xj_Jez_Og_WHQq_GIt_GA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7fpjcjehx/)
The next one could be found in Chile.
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So loco,
Did you figure it out?
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The Casablanca plane must have been the Potez 560 of "air Afrique"
To be historically correct
(https://s1.postimg.cc/cect5vw4v/Potez560.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j4tafbjaj/)
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Correct
Your turn.....again
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I won by tiredness! Like I do with the girls!
;D
Not even that ever worked for me! ::( ::( ;D
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Giank,
You never said what it was.
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Actually, I was referring to the "get the girls through tiredness" bit, not the guessing game! ;) ;D ;D
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Let's try this! i use some countermeasures to avoid image serch in the cut away draw. :P
But in the there is enough information to trace it, if you do not take it out at a glance ;D
(https://s3.postimg.cc/e450v9f43/guess0106_II.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/axahbmunz/)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/nzqqtt1j7/guess0106.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wi06y581r/)
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I dont know what it is but I would love to have it in game. :)
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Did it ever fly?
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It is a De Schelde S.21. Never went beyond mock up status. (Wikipedia)
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I saw it on a 2014 request
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=41246.0
yes is De Schelde s-21 Dutch heavy figther of 1940.
Did not get to fly because in 1940 fell into the hands of the German invasion.
But I participate in the war as false intelligence under the name of FW198.
It's your turn now d-rexs!
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I got lucky. I saw it in one of my Fathers books on Dutch aviation.
With that said.. This is an open round, cause I got nothing! :-[
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open round then...
Guess this!
(https://s11.postimg.cc/emikt30xv/guess02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x231qhf27/)
cheers!
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(https://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/ikarus-s-49c-2422.jpg)
Not my turn. I knew this one. Go on.
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The turn changes when someone writes the exact name of the plane!
With the single photo is not enough.
Remains vacant!
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North korean yak 9? IDK
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(https://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/ikarus-s-49c-2422.jpg)
Not my turn. I knew this one. Go on.
S-49C
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/s49.html
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Let's take it for granted ... :-|
But the correct thing would have been: "Ikarus S-49C series 2" ;)
Immediate post-war Yugoslav aircraft
You turn stiv_069!
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Immediate post-war Yugoslav aircraft
And a development of the immediate pre-war Rogozarski IK-3, which flies on our virtual IL-2 1946 skies!
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Well ... more than a day without answer we assume it's opend round ::(.
Let's run the ball.
Let's try this easy one. ;)
(https://s23.postimg.cc/76dnyglaz/guess05.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bs9s6t6tz/)
Cheers!
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RR Merlin power! :D
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(https://s24.postimg.cc/cafgin7jp/maxresdefault.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hlud3ctm9/)
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Well ... more than a day without answer we assume it's opend round ::(.
Let's run the ball.
Let's try this easy one. ;)
(https://s23.postimg.cc/76dnyglaz/guess05.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bs9s6t6tz/)
Cheers!
Hispano HA-1112 Buchon
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/ha1112.html
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Yes Stiv_069! 8)
Now it's your turn to post some strange airplane so we can guess! ;D
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This aircraft was built in small series, but flying to different parts of the Soviet Union and was the hero of a popular movie. Who's to say its name?
(https://s13.postimg.cc/r7lv4we13/aab060d7a40a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wj0rpm03n/)
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Leningradskii Kombinat 1 Plywood no.2
NIAI LK-1 Fanera-2.
At least that says wikipedia ... and at the same time asked me for money ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIAI_LK-1
https://youtu.be/TyhAAX3DjWE
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Leningradskii Kombinat 1 Plywood no.2
NIAI LK-1 Fanera-2.
YES. THIS IS IT.
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good! :)
Let's try this one now
(https://s3.postimg.cc/o35nlvcyr/guess77.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/y0goexkkf/)
Cheers!
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This is a Soviet high-altitude fighter prototype.
I have not been able to ascertain whether this is the Sukhoi Su-1 or the Su-3, as my sources have differing opinions.
Neither aircraft became more than prototypes due to unreliable superchargers (no less than two were needed)
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Sip is the failed Su-3.
I also cannot assure that the photo is not su-1, but the place from i take it, ensures that it is su-3. :P
You turn lame hawk!
and thanks for relive this thread! ;D
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Been away - not able to participate.
Back again - with something I believe is quite unknown
(https://s16.postimg.cc/so0emn991/SASQuiz14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7ecsbssy9/)
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Looks like an Interstate TDR (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_TDR)-1 to me.
Best regards - Mike
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Mike is right - the first operational combat-proven TV guided Predator drone, from 1944:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/6tqbbku4x/Interstate_TDR-1_assault_drone_being_prepared_fo.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kan9ug4gd/)
You can read more about it here: http://www.nnapprentice.com/alumni/letter/TDR_1.pdf
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Freakish plane :D
You can see her in action here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwS669Ipgwc
Best regards - Mike
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Quite right - your turn Storebror
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Can we have one of those. :)
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Bombs,
You stole my line.
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your turn Storebror
Thanks LameHawk :)
Let's try this one:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/bmqwn0tmz/quest_2017-06-12.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Looks like a mini-Meteor... LOL
British ?
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British ?
Not quite.
Actually nothing of this plane is british, rather opposite: Certain parts of this aircraft were produced under license in U.K. later on.
Best regards - Mike
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Reminded me of the Yugoslav mini jets.
So this must be:
Ikarus J-451MM Stršljen
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That's really close but sorry, no cigar :P
Best regards - Mike
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Seems like overlooked something.
Let me try this one instead:
Ikarus T-451MM Stršljen II
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Now you got it 8)
The Ikarus J-451MM Stršljen ("Hornet") was developed in 1956 as a planned close support variant of the S-451M Zolja and test flown in 1957 by the Aeronautical Testing Centre. The design featured a tricycle undercarriage as opposed to the early tail dragger designs, more powerful Turbomeca Marboré turbojet engines and armament of 2 x 20mm Hispano-Suiza 404A cannons under the fuselage along with underwing rockets.
The J-451MM lead to development of the Ikarus T-451MM Stršljen II ("Hornet II") single seat jet aerobatic training aircraft of which only one prototype (21002) was manufactured and this can be seen at the Belgrade Aeronautical Museum today. Another variant was the Ikarus S-451MM Matica ("Queen Bee") two-seat jet training aircraft which set a world air speed record for its class of 750.34 km/h in 1957.
The plane resembles a "shrinked" Meteor to some degree.
Ironically there's no british parts involved, rather opposite: The engines used, the Turbomeca Palas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbomeca_Palas) 056A, were built under license by Blackburn and General Aircraft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_Aircraft) in U.K. later on, for instance to be used on the Short SB.4 Sherpa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_SB.4_Sherpa) ;)
Your turn :)
Best regards - Mike
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OK - here we go.
An easy one this time.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/vcol6zae7/SASQuiz15.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8nze7et0b/)
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TSR2 innit
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Rather a Lancer me thinks
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Right again, Storebror. All those cigars are going to damage your health. Your turn again.
It is the Lockheed CL-1200 Lancer.
A sort of upgraded Starfighter meant for the export market, but lost out to the F-5 in an international fighter aircraft competition in 1970. Programme terminated after that.
(https://s12.postimg.cc/gss6dj9f1/cl-1200.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g39e168vd/)
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Thanks Lamehawk.
The early Lancer by the way looks much nicer than the later derivate with squared intakes, just saying.
This is probably much too easy, nevertheless... what plane is it?
(https://s30.postimg.cc/vakp3flwx/quest_2017-06-13.jpg)
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SU-9
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Absolutely correct stiv, your turn 8)
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(https://s8.postimg.cc/8kjwkd5wl/16-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/iumbjlvs1/)
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Weather Balloon :D
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Mr Gorbachev - tear down that wall
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I'm not sure why, but I have the feeling that Soviets were flying that plane. I can't put my finger on it.............. :P
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This Junkers Ju-21
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Selfsolve, I see.
Looks like we have an open round then.
Try this one:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/bxul15081/quest_2017-06-14.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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The Temco TT Pinto was a jet-powered, tandem two-place primary trainer aircraft built for the United States Navy by Temco Aircraft of Dallas, Texas.
I knew this one because I have this in the initial build stage.
(https://s29.postimg.cc/njde60zuf/Temco_TT-1_Pinto_in_flight_colour_c1957.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/arz7ziq2b/)
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Spot on Edlor, your turn 8)
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Thanks Mike :)
Open Round. I got nothin at the moment. ;)
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If you chaps don't mind jumping me in (without earning a ticket), I have one for you (hope it hasn't been asked yet).
This is obviously an MG151 belly gunpod on a Bf 109 (G4).
Question is: What was the reason this thing wasn't cleared for operational use?
Try without googling first. :)
(https://i.imgur.com/sglNfEJ.jpg)
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I've read an article about this before.
According to the sources cited, there has been no particular reason why the centerline gondola wasn't used operational - your picture however shows a version tested with further addons and that one didn't make it into the field because of excessive drag (IIRC some 20 km/h speed penalty).
The central gondola alone however was tested successfully (albeit with a couple of recommendations for further modification before entering mass production) and was simply "forgotten" for unknown reasons like so many other german developments.
As I said, that's what I know about it.
Would be interesting to hear what your sources state about it.
Best regards - Mike
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The reason for rejection was the following:
Engine mounted gun was an percussion primed version, whereas the gondola one couldn't use mechanical priming, so it would have to use an electrically primed ammo.
The possibility of mixing up the ammunition during loading was seen as too much of a risk.
Since there were no other takers, the floor is yours mr. Storebror. :)
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Ah okay, that's the reason for rejection in your sources.
In my source (Flugzeug Profile Nr. 5) it is mentioned that for serial production a recommendation was issued to switch the engine gun to electrical priming in order to avoid confusion on reloading ammo (click for full size, sorry but it's available in german only):
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/4213/34930906940_2719d2a8f3_c.jpg) (https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/4213/34930906940_3de5e38e2c_o.jpg)
Okay, let's continue.
This is an easy one:
(https://s11.postimg.cc/xi1r6ci9v/quest_2017-06-15.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Thnx for clearing this up Storebror. I had it burried in my memory and no idea where i got it from.
As for the new pic, it looks like a photoshopped X-1D to me, this picture (flipped) in particular:
(https://i.imgur.com/v5KoW7W.jpg)
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Well done - here is the source: http://aviadesign.online.fr/pages/bell-airabuster.htm
You get the baton, it's your turn Bankoletti :)
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Thnx S.
Here we go, what's this gadged and how was it used?
(https://s9.postimg.cc/567dvzva7/q001.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dogu0c1sr/)
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Spanner Anlage infrared device?
It was used in small numbers on Bf-110 and Do-17 night fighters for detecting enemy bombers in the dark.
(https://s12.postimg.cc/g70ey7wj1/do17z-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6z86hipgp/)
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Spot on Shakaali, ball is yours to play. :)
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Ok, here you go. What is this:
(https://s13.postimg.cc/qhvwmijh3/quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3t6pmy237/)
:)
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By the number of piston rings is a diesel ... :o
Looks too old and heavy to have motorized any plane ... :-|
I risk that it is from a luxury tractor! :P
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Engines. I love engines and this one is a Beardmore Tornado (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beardmore_Tornado) 8 cylinder inline diesel engine having been used on the British R101 airship.
Strange tech at strange times, the engine all in all was a massive fail.
Best regards - Mike
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Storebror, that was correct. Your turn. :)
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Thanks :)
Let's try this one:
(https://s1.postimg.cc/o7970flu7/quest_2017-06-16.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Looks like a Yugoslavian COIN Soko Kraguj to me.
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Thanks :)
Let's try this one:
(https://s1.postimg.cc/o7970flu7/quest_2017-06-16.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
You should've gone with this photo:
(http://yumodelclub.tripod.com/yugoslav_air_force/kraguj/kraguj2.jpg)
;)
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Looks like a Yugoslavian COIN Soko Kraguj to me.
Absolutely right Bankoletti, your turn 8)
Cheers Radoye, I'll remember to make it an america bomber next time ;)
Best regards - Mike
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Thnx S.
Who's this and what's his unique achievement?
(https://s18.postimg.cc/dslcmi349/q004.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rz13hqdz9/)
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I found another pic of him:
(https://s23.postimg.cc/osbmjc9m3/Alfred_E._Neumann.jpg)
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Hint: He was a ww2 ace.
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Is very difficult ... :-[
so far we have not seen any organic airplanes ... o_O LOL
What kind of engine have? :P
If we start posting photos of people soon will appear the black guy from whatsapp
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Yeah this might be on the harder side, but why not make this more interesting. :)
Another hint:
He was Italian.
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Another hint:
He was Italian.
Got it. ;) https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_degli_assi_italiani_della_seconda_guerra_mondiale
He is Pietro Bonannini. My italian is terrible, but if I got it right he was an ace who was not a pilot, but a machine gunner.
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Is very difficult ... :-[
so far we have not seen any organic airplanes ... o_O LOL
What kind of engine have? :P
An organic airplane has an organic engine:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/xk2726r5d/b85f06d26d075fc2b861e35a7af9b3c3_XL.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kfwmphz3h/)
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Perfect score Shakaali!!! 2 of 2
Ace name and engine type! ;D
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He is Pietro Bonannini. My italian is terrible, but if I got it right he was an ace who was not a pilot, but a machine gunner.
Correct on both accounts!
He served as a gunner on recce seaplanes Fiat RC14 and Cant Z506, which usually flew alone and unescorted. He has 8 confirmed kills of RAF fighters (Spits, Hurris, Beaus) and is the only Italian non-pilot ace of WW2. On one instance when his dorsal 12,7 Safat jammed, he dismonted the ventral 7,7 Scotti and fought on. Ironically he survived the war only to die postwar in civilian air crash.
Floor is yours, Shakaali!
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Thanks, Bankoletti 8)
What might this be:
(https://s2.postimg.cc/6269mzhqh/Quest_SAS.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uiofhgih1/)
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Thanks, Bankoletti 8)
What might this be:
(https://s2.postimg.cc/6269mzhqh/Quest_SAS.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uiofhgih1/)
Are those the wings / glider appendage for the Soviet "flying tank"?
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Very good, but what was the exact name?
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Another picture:
(https://s1.postimg.cc/nubb5p5tb/Hint.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8lldrxc4r/)
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Antonow A-40
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Antonow A-40
Actually incorrect, as it is Antonov A-40 "Krylya Tanka" ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_A-40
However, it was close enough. vampire_pilot, your turn.
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w and v are interchangable, depending on transcription language. In German it's w
:o
(http://orig15.deviantart.net/4297/f/2017/168/2/f/wussat_by_ryofuxxx-dbd1lw3.jpg)
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Only on the miserable phone now, but I as far as I remember this must be the Saro (Saunders Roe) Princess.
A seaplane that sort of missed the boat since it appeared at a time when land based passenger planes took over the world
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You are correct
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Thank you.
Here is an interesting one.
This German plane was bought and paid for.
What is it?
(https://s17.postimg.cc/5zxhw72fj/SASQuiz16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r9l471iq3/)
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Uh, this one was hard, but I think I got it finally. This is a Nakajima E8N, bought and paid for by Germany from Japan in 1941, making auxiliary crusier Orion the only German vessel of WW2 to employ a Japanese aircraft. Here it's depicted flying a "false flag" British roundels. (which did a very good job of deceiving me too :D)
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I'm glad this was a real challenge.
Read more about the German raiders in the pacific https://pacificeagles.net/german-raiders-in-the-pacific/ (https://pacificeagles.net/german-raiders-in-the-pacific/)
It is indeed a Nakajima E8N
(https://s30.postimg.cc/yp3nn93ap/e8n-11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wkjam61nx/)
(https://s21.postimg.cc/s9tsg603b/Nakajima-01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r7jlxmh9v/)
Congratulations Bankoletti - your turn
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Thnx LH!
Another ID:
(https://s29.postimg.cc/uns34cuyv/q-007.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4fgyezav7/)
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US ?
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The gun is definitely an MG 81Z.
The gunners posture at the barely visible pointed extension of the glass frame under his right hand give it away as an Fw 189 tail gunner.
Best regards - Mike
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Yep, the Fliegende Auge it is!
Go ahead, Sto.
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Well then guys, give this one a try:
(https://s30.postimg.cc/3yx5w7kdd/quest_2017-06-20.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Pfalz DXII?
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Those struts that stand the fuselage off the lower wing makes it a D XV I think.....possibly a XVf or spezial but I can't quite make out the aileron overhang
Cheers
Alfie
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a D XV I think.....possibly a XVf or spezial but I can't quite make out the aileron overhang
Airleron overhang is clearly visible on both ends of the upper wing.
D.XV (Spezial) is correct, your turn Alfie 8)
Best regards - Mike
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Marvelous !
How about this "beauty"
(https://s29.postimg.cc/pat32q3dj/b1c9922ce3b55ad0d391de902e665a8a-orig.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oy1owjl3n/)
Cheers
Alfie
PS..... Can any of you avid plane spotters help me ID this ?
(https://s10.postimg.cc/t1gqtbf8p/6b0c070405872ab0635f3b9bc9551a16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cqgmx02qt/)
I downloaded the image because of the "interesting " engine layout.....but for the life of me I can't remember the name of the a/c :D
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How about this "beauty"
6 wings, that makes searching for it easy.
It's the Huntington Multiplane from 1912, unfortunately unable to achieve flight.
Can any of you avid plane spotters help me ID this ?
Sorry, no idea.
Best regards - Mike
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Something with a huge compressor intake ?? High altitude test something ?? 8)
Benno
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Rather something with the engine(s?) mounted in the center fuselage, sideways, to drive two props between the wings.
Odd to say the least, but even more funny that google doesn't yield any good results for a few dozen search terms I've used so far.
Best regards - Mike
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That's a Salmson S.M.1.
Since the newly arrived engine was very powerful for the era (240 hp), plus it was a liquid cooled radial, it was decided to mount it sideways to improve aerodynamics and reduce/cancel the torque.
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Yep, Mike's right about Mr Howard Huntington's "device" o_O
Good work Bankoletti !....I was going to say......
Re the second shot......
Is that a pair(?) of rotaries driving shafts to the props.....(cooling?)
A single seat (?) is that an observer/gunners position at the front (?)
The bloke stood in front of the a/c looks French.....
Many thanks for the info......but Mike got the Multiplane......your go Mike
Cheers
Alfie
PS I've just looked up the Salmson...it was armed with two 37 mm APX cannon o_O :D :D :D :D
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Let's try this one:
(https://s12.postimg.cc/5621vkci5/quest_2017-06-21.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Looks like Ryan XV-5 Vertifan:
(https://s21.postimg.cc/4jnehzk0n/Ryan_XV-5_Vertifan_flying.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/zdunfppn7/)
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You got it Bankoletti, your turn!
(https://s13.postimg.cc/aegl9cj3b/Ryan_XV-5_Vertifan.jpg)
(https://s13.postimg.cc/irhoq9sx3/Ryan_XV-5_Vertifan_2.jpg)
(https://s13.postimg.cc/ig4tr91uv/Ryan_XV-5_Vertifan_3.jpg)
(https://s13.postimg.cc/8wv4xsecn/Ryan_XV-5_Vertifan_4.jpg)
(https://s13.postimg.cc/9dgck823r/Ryan_XV-5_Vertifan_5.jpg)
(https://s13.postimg.cc/4c8yiuunb/Ryan_XV-5_Vertifan_6.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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K, here we go! Describe the photo below. Description must include the following data:
1. Type of aircraft
2. Purpose of the device attached around the fuselage
3. Type of missions this device was meant for
(https://s29.postimg.cc/3yrgtpobb/q-101.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ch0wy1utv/)
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An easy one - the Mosquito is a much too well known plane!
1) de Havilland Mosquito prototype W4052
2) It is a Youngman frill air brake
3) As can be seen on the wing tips, this is an aircraft equipped with the AI. Mk.IV. The common radar on the NF. Mk. II. The plane is also painted matt black - a feature that took 26 mph off its speed! So this is a night fighter and because the Mosquito was such an aerodynamically clean machine it was easy to overshoot the target when closing in. An air brake was deemed necessary but after tests the brake was abandoned as being too complicated compared to simply lowering the undercarriage
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Correct on all accounts, good job! Let me just add that while lowering the gear or flaps worked very good at reducing speed, it usually threw the aim off due to induced pitch change, so this brake was designed in such a way as to provide drag symmetrically and not induce any pitch or yaw. However, it turned out that compensating the aim wasn't too demanding.
Ball's yours, LameHawk!
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Fascinating guys!
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Nothing like a good ball - or two
Right - here is a little oddity
(https://s18.postimg.cc/t3ylojyyh/SASQuiz17.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hrm06rq9h/)
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That looks like a mockup of the proposed twin engined version of a P-40.
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That looks like a mockup of the proposed twin engined version of a P-40.
Yes, because that's (more or less) what it is ;)
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Quite right - that's exactly what it is ;D
I suppose Bankoletti came first - so your turn
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Thnx LameHawk!
So, how well do you know your rear ends?
First one to name them all correctly, wins. No exotics, they are all well known ww2 era machines.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/quantough/Rear_ends.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/w5pkeegj1/)
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1 - MS 406
2 - Hs-129
3 - P-39
4 - hesitate... IL-2 ?
5 - don't know
6 - IAR-80 or 81
1 - Mitsubishi Ki-46Dinah
8 - Westland Lysander
9 - Tupolev SB-2
10 - Polikarpov Po-2
11 - not sure, but Fokker D.XXI
12 - Junkers Ju-52
on my opinion...
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I think 5 is a Ki-84
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4- yes, il2
5- agree, looks like KI-84
11- yes, Fokker D. XXI
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Gaston, since you nailed 11 of them and didn't miss any and were the 1st to answer, take it over. Yes, No.5 is a Ki-84.
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OK, and thank you !
So... in what plane are we ?
(https://s21.postimg.cc/5azdluluf/Quiquizz19.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/48p73b30z/)
Have a nice night !
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That quest is rather impossible to solve without google's help I'm afraid.
The panel's shape with the stuck out center part and the slightly backshifted side panels, together with the narrow lower and wider, round-shaped upper part making the center panel look like a mushroom, point to the right direction of this being a P-39.
The fuel gauge also points into the same direction, being a Liquidometer Corp. type as it has been used on the P-39, albeit with a different scale.
However, a P-39 panel is supposed to look like this:
(https://s3.postimg.cc/txleyk2cz/P39_Air_Tech_4408_DA_panel_p021_W.png)
Now what's the point?
Well, we see that this panel has been modified.
For instance a King (Bendix) KFS 570A transponder unit belonging to a KXP 750A transponder can be seen right to the gear switch:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/k8sxwttin/transponder.jpg)
That's postwar tech, so this is a warbird which apparently saw heavy modifications.
The quest's solution is that this is the cockpit of the P-39Q-20-BE Airacobra s/n 44-3908, some history of this aircraft:
- Constructed as a P-39Q-20-BE. Intended to be shipped to russia (lend-lease), both the Bell dataplate and the russian export dataplate are still in the aircraft.
- 1944 - Taken on Strength/Charge with the United States Army Air Force with s/n 44-3908.
- 1944 - Converted to a RP-39Q-22-BE.
- Circa November 1944 - Redesignated as TP-39Q.
- Circa October 1945 - Transferred to War Assets Administration, Altus AB, OK.
- 1946 - To A. T. Shuller, Tulsa, OK with c/r N4829N.
- 1946 - To Hoyt Scott, Bristol, IL.
- From 1947 to 1950 - To W. H. Ostenberg, Scotts Bluff, NE.
Rebuilt to single-seat for racing, using modified P-63 cowlings and windscreen.
Registered as NX4829N.
Raced as Bendix racer #15.
Rebuilt and marked for Cleveland Races but did not fly in them. - 1950 - To Paul Eddy, Fostoria, OH.
- 1954 - To Archie Baldocchi, San Salvador, El Salvador.
Registered as N40A. - 1954 - To Ben Widtfeldt, Hayward, CA.
- 1954 - Ferry flight to Hayward, CA from El Salvador.
- Circa 1955 - To Ben Widtfeldt, Hayward, CA with c/r N40A.
- 1957 - Ferry flight to Long Beach, CA from Hayward. Flown by Ben Widfeldt in civil paint scheme.
- From 1957 to 1963 - To Ellis D. Ed Weiner, Long Beach, CA.
- 1963 - To Robert M. Lindquist, Santa Ana, CA.
- From 1963 to 1969 - To Donald D. Randall, Santa Ana, CA.
- up to 1971 - Withdrawn from use. Stored Orange County, CA.
- 1971 - Transported by ground. From Orange County to Van Nuys.
- From 1971 to 1972 - Restored. Rebuilt as racer. Mira Slovak, Van Nuys, CA.
- 1972 - Raced as #21 "Mr. Mennen".
- September 1972 - First post-restoration Flight.
- September 1972 - Flew to Reno but disqualified from racing due to late arrival.
- 29 July 1975 - To Ed Messick and Larry Irvine/Rebco Inc, San Antonio, TX.
- By 1976 - Gun barrels installed, TP-39Q ventral strake and dorsal fin removed.
- By 1976 - Raced as #39. Painted as P-400 with camouflage.
- September 1976 - Raced at Reno, NV.
- 2 October 1979 - Certificate of airworthiness for N40A (P39, 44-3908) issued.
- October 1981 - To Preston Parish/Kalamazoo Aviation History Museum, Kalamazoo, MI.
- 4 January 1982 - To Kalamazoo Aviation History Museum, Portage, MI.
Flew in USAAC camoflage, wfu for static display.
Damaged when car struck building causing wall collapse.
Repairs completed, 2001.
Displayed as P-400/USAAC/BW146/20.
The plane by 1950:
(https://s3.postimg.cc/bqk44ajcj/0000054329.jpg)
Nowadays painted as P-400 "Whistlin' Britches" on display at the Air Zoo in Kalamazoo, Michigan (http://www.airzoo.org/index.php):
(https://s3.postimg.cc/q52lcd79f/0000015519.jpg)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/orayh2803/0000015523.jpg)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/util7jwg3/1052897.jpg)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/ucxdl48oz/4421.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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You are right ! This is a P-39Q Panel. Unfortunately, I do not have the original photo here at work... will try not to forget to post it later !
Your turn, Mike !
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Thanks Gaston, next to guess is this:
(https://s13.postimg.cc/cozwhws5z/quest_2017-06-23.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Vickers type 161 of 1931? Kind of early "Schräge Musik" fighter, with a single 37mm gun pointed upwards from the nose.
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Mike... here is the original photo of the P-39Q's panel :
(https://s9.postimg.cc/vsrgxzwhb/Throttle_lever_and_left_side_electrical_panel_P-.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r6vcpnay3/)
as I told you.
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Thanks a lot Gaston and yes Bankoletti, absolutely right, that's the Vickers Type 161 - not too strange for it's kind, but the fact that such thing was made in 1931 is really something ;)
Your turn Bankoletti 8)
Cheers! Mike
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Thanks Storebror.
One more cockpit id:
(https://s30.postimg.cc/n80rmp11d/cockpit.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3q646r43h/)
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four engines :P
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(https://s21.postimg.cc/s4s8k1vuf/lanc.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Not too hard I take. :)
Your turn Storebror.
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Okay, now for something completely different.
Sure, the picture shows a Lanc, but that's not the question.
What's being loaded here and why?
(https://s15.postimg.cc/kcm41gum3/quest_2017-06-24.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Supplies for SOE and guerillas...?
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Operation Manna and Operation Chowhound were humanitarian food drops, carried out to relieve a famine in German-occupied Holland.......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operations_Manna_and_Chowhound
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Absolutely right Mark, your turn 8)
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I really have'nt played much so I dont know if this has been posted before but here you go....
(https://s19.postimg.cc/rwgyffzs3/18622674_10154587193846918_1647822143031287736_n.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lirvc6uvz/)
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I'll go for Siebel Fh 104
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Görings flying Dildo :P
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I asking what is the tow behind?
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What's towed is an additional fuel tank.
(in case I'm correct I throw the floor open, I won't be able to participate immediately)
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You are correct. :)
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I was sure it was an early T-16 prototype. :P
The model that shows us luke. ;D
(https://s13.postimg.cc/ke1pxvxdz/Star-_Wars-_T-16-_Skyhopper-_Model-with-_Luke-_Skywalk.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x5fw4e75v/)
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Bankoletti says open round...
then, try this!
(https://s3.postimg.cc/ax3qjb58z/guess25.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3tvv3oztb/)
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That's what happens when you smoke while releasing a poop.
The pilot can be glad that the poop dump valve was open when it happened.
Best regards - Mike
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With what Mike tells us and taking some information from another of our favorite tread :P
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,28319.msg602425.html#msg602425
we can deduct of this sympathetic Finland superhero could be the pilot.
Our friend Shakaali is devout of him, and tell us the story of Peräsmies
Photo is Lamehawk's credit! ;D
(https://s24.postimg.cc/nmxh04fdx/1stt_Hybrid_Motorcycle.jpg)
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Seemingly the pilot was not quite as lucky as Storebror suggested.
The plane exploded and the pilot was killed. http://www.aviastar.org/air/russia/su-7.php (http://www.aviastar.org/air/russia/su-7.php)
This must be the Sukhoi Su-7
Not to be confused with the Sukhoi Su-7 of course
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Perfect as always LameHawk! ;D
It was a small trap, which has the same name as another, much better known Su-7 (post-war jet version) ;)
you turn!
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The plane exploded and the pilot was killed.
Poop too strong or dump valve closed accidentally? :D ;D :))
*SCNR*
Best regards - Mike
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As this thread seems to be getting rather silly, do you mind if I interject?
Watching an old film about Hans Joachim Marseille, the 109s didn't look quite right. Many of the aerial shots are models of course, but have a gander at these screen grabs. Any ideas please?
Apologies for the interruption!
(https://s18.postimg.cc/rwxnxm3s9/marseilles_2.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/kgyebtg2t/)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/s24gccupl/Marseilles1.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/wo0kkpg8l/)
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What's this then?
(https://s24.postimg.cc/fdo38uihh/SASQuiz18.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/nvxjd6p01/)
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Fieseler Storch? It can't be that easy, can it? o_O
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No - not that easy
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Any ideas please?
Easy thing.
These are Hispano Aviación HA-1112-K1L in their late configuration with wing fences adopted from the M1L "Buchon":
(https://s11.postimg.cc/56gxpn2rn/HA1112_K-1_L_C.4_J-10.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Morane 500 ?
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Criquet? :-[
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Thanks Storebror, more fun to ask here and test the experten than just Google :)
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All on the right track - but not quilte right yet
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Mraz K-65?
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No - not that either.
Admitted - it is difficult
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the storch was made for 4 diferents brands: :-|
Fieseler
Morane Saulnier
Mraz
Leichtbau
All do the same airframe, morane saulnier put a radial engine sometimes...
is very dificult catch the diferences between the planes. ::(
But no one of those strorchs have the propeller bonet!
here is the key! ;D
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Perhaps I chose the wrong picture as the differences to the Storch are not that apparent.
Here is an additional picture
(https://s23.postimg.cc/4b12s8tgb/SASQuiz18-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ng4c20847/)
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Italian ?
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Antonov do your own unlicenced version OKA36-8 o_O
(https://s16.postimg.cc/cynh48nx1/Oka38-6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tz6dcx0y9/)
an ultimate development Fi 256 have the propeller bonnet but also too many aerodinamics improvements. >:(
(https://s13.postimg.cc/b63tjylxj/156_256.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/z9ul894eb/)
Maybe is the very first prototype? the only with variable pitch?
Fi 156 V1 Prototype equipped with an adjustable metal propeller, registration D-IKVN :-|
i can´t find an image for the last... ::(
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No - still not right.
Take a close look at the second picture
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think i have! ;D
Is an Aerodynamische Versuchsanstalt AVA AF-2
an prototype of suctioned flaps for STOL. o_O
it used the same fuselage of fi 156 but diferent wings an have the suction motor inside.
(https://s21.postimg.cc/v2tc1kckn/ach7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5wsduqbab/)
In spite of all the paraphernalia was worse than fi-156 :P
Uff ... I think I'll be able to go back to work now ...
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Very good, loco.
You are absolutely right!
I admit, it was very nasty (oh - evil me).
Your turn -- and please don't follow my good example
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Greeat!
I always post an easy one, but I put photoshop countermeasures on it
(https://s9.postimg.cc/nz0z6ybn3/guess29.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/auveu9jl7/)
(Not a Robotech Valkyrie)
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The thread is dying... ::(
It is seen that you do not like my photoshop. >:(
(https://s14.postimg.cc/3wem80o2p/guess07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/u4pqxe865/)
This is the original photo, yes is a mock up. It was not so difficult
Let's relive the thread! :D
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Maybe it's just that nobody thought your Photoshop exercise shall be the next quest ;)
Okay, let's guess this one:
(https://s10.postimg.cc/6sl75paqh/quest_2017-07-01.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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This has to be a F-35.. I'm sure of it! :o ;D
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Guessing on the German Vak 191 , mayby 8)
Benno
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EWR_VJ_101
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Ring my Bell... 109 times...
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This has to be a F-35.. I'm sure of it! :o ;D
That is right of course, but you still win by using that Joker answer :D
the German Vak 191
No, sorry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EWR_VJ_101
Not at all ;)
Ring my Bell... 109 times...
You nailed it again Gaston, it's the Bell XF-109.
Your turn 8)
Best regards - Mike
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While waiting for the turn of gaston...
I tell you that the plane, posted at top in this same page is the Vougth-V-507. Competitor in the NAVY contest for fighter that lost against the F-14 :P
I will try to be clearer with the riddles next time! ;D
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OK. So...
(https://s14.postimg.cc/d23ilhoi9/Quiquizz17.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j317ikb4d/)
In what plane are we here ?
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Well apparently we're looking at the inside of a Boulton Paul Turret.
Which plane? Hard to tell, could be many.
The guns seem to be tilted up all the way and the elevation lever doesn't quite look like what I remember to have seen on Halifax Bombers converted to BP turrets, so I'd rather rule out that it's a Halifax.
In theory it could be a Ventura, a Lincoln, or even a Liberator, a Blackburn Roc or a Short C/G flying boat, but that'd be an odd quest...
My bet is that it's a Boulton Paul Defiant Mk.I, the parts seen in the upper left corner would match the canopy fairing and the elevation lever would fit, too.
Best regards - Mike
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You are right about nationality of the plane (British). But it is not one mentioned...
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Okay, another idea:
The Armstrong Whitworth Albemarle used pretty much the same Type A Boulton Paul Turret like the Defiant, with a fairing forward of the turret which automatically retracted as the turret rotated to fire forwards.
Best regards - Mike
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That is it, Mike !
(https://s12.postimg.cc/k25ywqv5p/Albermarle_interior.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ltyxrneih/)
You got it ! Your turn, please.
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Thanks Gaston.
Dunno if we had this before, sorry if we did, but let's guess this one:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/p6wvmhltr/quest_2017-07-02.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Horton Wingless?
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Yep! we already had! :o
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg600775.html#msg600775
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg600781.html#msg600781
I think that with 2022 answers we are running out of rarities ... :P
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not even remotely true
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Agree ;D
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I have a few aircraft that I think will be quite challenging. I got to wait my turn though.
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Horton Wingless?
Absolutely right Shakaali, your turn 8)
Sorry for digging out a plane we've already had.
Best regards - Mike
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Sorry for digging out a plane we've already had.
No problem, I didn't know that :D
Ok, inside which aircraft are we now:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/wvbv3u6xd/quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tbpxe147h/)
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What I can tell is that we're looking at a FuG 10 radio panel.
The problem is: All planes I know of had the devices stacked on two vertical rows with 3 devices each.
This picture shows 3 vertical rows of two devices each.
I haven't seen that so far, which means that either this is a rather odd plane or simply a mistake made during restauration.
Best regards - Mike
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Mike, you are on the right track. ;)
Hint: It is an allied plane that is licence-built in axis country.
Edit: incorrect restauration is possible, but highly unlikely. Radios on these planes were changed during the war.
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Hint: It is an allied plane that is licence-built in axis country.
That tells just... nothing.
Axis powers:
Germany (did they have any license production of large allied airplanes? Couldn't think of any)
Japan (no FuG 10 there)
Italy (did they have any license production of large allied airplanes? Couldn't think of any)
Bulgaria (did they have any license production of large allied airplanes? Couldn't think of any)
Hungary (did they have any license production of large allied airplanes? Couldn't think of any)
Romania (did they have any license production of large allied airplanes? Couldn't think of any)
Best regards - Mike
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Well, actually axis co-belligerent state from 1941-44. In Il-2 listed as axis.
The plane in question is the only know survivor of a bomber that was very common in WW2, especially in the early stages of the war.
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Italy (did they have any license production of large allied airplanes? Couldn't think of any)
Bulgaria (did they have any license production of large allied airplanes? Couldn't think of any)
Hungary (did they have any license production of large allied airplanes? Couldn't think of any)
Romania (did they have any license production of large allied airplanes? Couldn't think of any)
Finland did ;)
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Correct ;) And the aircraft is...?
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That would indicate we'd be talking about Valtion lentokonetehdas (State aircraft factory) of finland.
In that case, the only license built bombers were Ju-88 and Blenheims (Mk.I and IV), so this would have to be a Blenheim.
I must admit though that I yet have to see the rest of this plane's images to believe that they put german radios in it, let alone in this very unusual mounting.
Best regards - Mike
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Mike, you are correct. It is Bristol Blenheim Mark IV, built in Valtion Lentokonetehdas and given to PLeLv 42 in April, 1944. Marking BL-200. It was operative in late Continuation War and in Lapland War and was mostly flown by major Kalle Kepsu, the commander of PLeLv 42.
It is currently at display at Ilmavoimamuseo (Air Force Museum) in Jyväskylä. More pictures ia a virtual museum: http://ilmavoimamuseo.fi/virtualmuseum/ The Blenheim is number 24.
Finns changed the Blenheim original radios to FuGs, because ground stations were equipped with German radios and the British radios worked poorly with them. I have sources, but only printed and only in Finnish :(
This was quite hard, thats why I gave hints.
Your turn :D
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Sorry I've been late.
Maybe we've had this before, but who cares?
Try it:
(https://s2.postimg.cc/n0pcmlyhl/quest_2017-07-05.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xnj5s16mt/)
Best regards - Mike
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X-4 Bantam, as it seems.
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It had considerable stability issues yet it would look cool if it was an enlarged fighter.
Im thinking point defense interceptor with two 30mm cannons in the wing roots
Enlarged by 20 percent.
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X-4 Bantam, as it seems.
Absolutely right.
Looks like I need to dig out something really difficult next time to fool you guys :P
Your turn Bankoletti 8)
Best regards - Mike
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Let's try this:
(https://s13.postimg.cc/w65igdq13/qqq.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/odeuoek1v/)
For extra kudos describe what do we see on the left and what on the right half of the pic.
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Pe-8? The thing on the left looks like an OPB2/Type90
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The bombsight is a Goertz-Boykow clone - it may be German, Soviet, Dutch, Australian or Japanese. SO the bombsight itself is not really helpful for identifying the bomber or seaplane in the pic. What appears to be bombs release levers in teh center of the photo may give a better clue, as well as the thinly corrugated metal panels used for the bottom of teh cockpit.
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So far so good - you lads are correct about the manual bomb release levers and the bombsight.
It's not a Pe-8 tho.
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Time for a hint I guess.
Plane in question is one of the major types of its nation.
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Pilot cockpit of the same aircraft:
(https://s1.postimg.cc/tcatj9uj3/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/58k1uzc23/)
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Nakajima B5N bomber cokpit and drop ordinance selector.
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Spot on loco, your turn.
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ok lets relive the tread with one super easy! ;D
Guess this!
(https://s1.postimg.cc/akt5by26n/guess26.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ptj2ppvuz/)
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Lately it seems it's harder to find new questions than answers!
Anyways, have something up the sleeve in case I'm right. It's a C variant of the P-60, equipped with an PW R-2800. Always appeared to me as an American 190 equivalent.
Never knew tho they sent them over to the Soviets as lend-lease (as seems to be the case with the fine specimen in the photo) :D.
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Yup!
You are On Bankoletti!
you turn!
PD: Photoshop to make it look like loan and lease is free ;D
(https://s3.postimg.cc/voovscxwz/XP-60.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/olh0cqshb/)
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I'm guessing the whole 24 hour rule in still in place, so ill just join in then.
Here's an interesting bird with a crazy side story.
(https://s4.postimg.cc/5f8en9bnh/73_3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vnjjcmvqx/)
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Dunno what's the interesting side story, but this is a He-70K / He-170 in Hungarian colours (1938-41). If I remember correctly, the plane was hated by pilots because the alloy ignited (!), so that later on it had to be replaced with even more obsolate biplanes.
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WOW!!! That was fast!!!
side note: oh i just thought it was interesting that a mail-carrier-passenger-plane also set a world speed record and was then quickly converted into a bomber before also being license produced in Hungary.
I mean its not so different from how the He111 was originally also a passenger plane, but I don't think it set any records.
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Yup!
You are On Bankoletti!
you turn!
PD: Photoshop to make it look like loan and lease is free ;D
(https://s3.postimg.cc/voovscxwz/XP-60.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/olh0cqshb/)
i'm still keen to know more about this one... :D
i do believe the ball is now in sniperton's court... ;)
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WOW!!! That was fast!!!
No magic here, we (I) already had this one, and I only resolved my own quest:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg570421.html#msg570421
In short, I don't deserve the trophy, so it's open house again :D
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i'm still keen to know more about this one... :D
(...)
The XP-60C (Model 95C, Army serial number 42-79424) was originally to have had an airframe similar to that of the XP-60A and XP-60B, but fitted with the new and experimental 2300 hp Chrysler XIV-2220 engine. Since this engine was experiencing development difficulties, an order was given in September 1942 to complete this aircraft with a 2000-hp Pratt & Whitney R-2800-53 engine driving a a pair of three-bladed contrarotating propellers. Armament was reduced to four 0.50-inch machine guns. First flight of the XP-60C was on January 27, 1943. Apart from somewhat high elevator and rudder forces, the aircraft's flight characteristics were generally satisfactory.
(...)
During the latter part of April 1943, the USAAF decided to undertake a series of comparative tests at Patterson Field with various fighter types in an attempt to weed out the least desirable types so that it could concentrate on the best types. Curtiss-Wright was notified by the Army that the XP-60E would have to be delivered for tests within four days. Since the XP-60E had not yet made its first flight, Curtiss-Wright decided to substitute the XP-60C in its place. The XP-60C was hastily reassembled and delivered to Patterson Field.
During trials with the XP-60C at Patterson Field, it proved impossible to obtain full rated power. In addition, the experimental wing finish had peeled off from the leading edge of the wing, destroying the smooth laminar-flow characteristics and resulting in a further loss of speed. Consequently, the XP-60C made a very poor impression on the Army, being in fact inferior to the Republic P-47D and the North American P-51B. The P-60 series was henceforth eliminated from any further consideration for production. In June 1943 the Army contract for the P-60A-1-CU was reduced from 500 to just two aircraft.
The XP-60C was powered by a Pratt & Whitney R-2800-53 engine delivering 2000 hp. Empty weight was 8698 pounds, gross weight was 10,785 pounds, and maximum takeoff weight was 11,835 pounds. Dimensions were wingspan 41 feet 3 3/4 inches, length 34 feet 1 inches, height 12 feet 4 inches, and wing area 275 square feet. Maximum speed was 414 mph at 20,350, 324 mph at sea level. An altitude of 30,000 feet could be attained in 6 minutes, and initial climb rate was 3890 feet per minute. Service ceiling was 37,900 feet. Normal range was 315 miles. Armament consisted of four 0.50-inch machine guns with 300 rpg mounted in the wings.
Following the return of the XP-60C to Curtiss-Wright, some further tests were undertaken, but a forced landing terminated all testing work with this aircraft.
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p60.html
(https://s10.postimg.cc/jjd6ve96x/2ac6f6f998bd7e496d693f130b1eed13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hrk80hptx/)
(https://s10.postimg.cc/ow219ix3d/AA2062_XP-60_real_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i5lk039xh/)
(https://s10.postimg.cc/4fr0ramtl/Curtiss_XP-60_C_061024-_F-1234_P-014.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/l3iitshl1/)
(https://s10.postimg.cc/renqa7itl/Curtiss_XP-60_C_061024-_F-1234_P-017.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8mbv6mmf9/)
(https://s10.postimg.cc/h5v94durt/Curtiss_XP-60_C_in_flight_modified_from_second_X.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dz0pkrabp/)
(https://s10.postimg.cc/yo9aswxe1/Novoa_Imagemdebitmap12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kuky3v4sl/)
(https://s10.postimg.cc/ahynhsb9l/p60c-6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lhjute1ol/)
(https://s10.postimg.cc/9470mhc09/XP-60_C4_Flickr_zps61d3436d.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jr0trwk5h/)
Best regards - Mike
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Open Round!
YES
(https://s3.postimg.cc/ao553urub/QUEST.jpg)
Go for it.
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F-35?
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yes....................................no
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Finally I have gotten one of these. That is my college girl friend Helen Rizi!
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:D ;D
That's hilarious.......but no.
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Hard one. Shooting from the hip: Farman-400?
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Sorry but no.
Think lighter.
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(http://springfield-bathtub-repair.com/ESW/Images/bathtub1.jpg)
?
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Lighter Mike
Not wetter
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Praga E.114
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BINGO! WE HAVE A WINNER!
I didnt think it would be this hard.
Your turn LameHawk.
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Praga E.114
Who on earth knows such a plane?
Best regards - Mike
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Can't say I knew it - but looking at it I felt like checking the Czechs. A feeling you get when having wasted endless time on airplane quizzes.
Anyway - an easy one this time:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/uvnoan6f3/SASQuiz19.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q9rk2akvv/)
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Too easy, I think.
http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/448/Biplane-Hurricane.aspx
Open round, I supose.
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I suppose you qualify
Otherwise open round
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I must say Mike in fact nailed the engine, the Aeronca E-113 (?), which was originally used for the "Bath Tub", so I think it's a shared kill :D
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Lets stump you again
(https://s24.postimg.cc/h1ablgf6d/do_it.jpg)
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siperton,
not a shared kill.
Praga used a Praga B flat two piston engine for the E.114.
Aeronca had nothing to do with this plane.
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I'm totally ignorant, my first impression was that the general arrangement is characteristic for the mids-20s, but the lady's attire hints at the late-30s, and at this point I gave it up. Still I was convinced it was one of the hundreds of aircrafts made in or inspired by small US firms like Aeronca. Anyway,
"Early aircraft were powered by a 29 kW (36 hp) Aeronca E-113 air-cooled, boxer two-cylinder engine mounted in the extreme nose with its cylinders exposed. Early production aircraft replaced the US-built Aeronca with a very similar Czechoslovakian engine, also built by Praga, called the Praga B. Later the similar but more powerful Praga B2 was fitted and from 1936 this was replaced in turn by the four-cylinder Praga D producing 49/55 kW (65/74 hp), with each pair of exposed cylinders merged into a single housing for lower drag. Aircraft with this engine were referred to as E.114D"
BTW that's a twin-tail Beaufighter or Buckmaster.
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It is not the Buckmaster nor is it a twin tail Beaufighter.
Why don't you look again
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Gloster G.39 or like they officially called it, F.9/37.
The second image shows the plane after it had been re-re-engined with Peregrines, quite like the Whirly.
Quite a capable aircraft, but IMHO inferior to the Whirly.
Best regards - Mike
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You got it Mike!
Your turn
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Just got back home, so I've got nothing in the pipeline...
Open round :)
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I think it would be a bit unfair for me to do this again.........But, if you don't mind:
(https://s23.postimg.cc/5w2xtfyhn/again.jpg)
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Pontiac??? o_O
MiG-17 8)
F-35 ;D
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Guess again.
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A very quiet star in the sky...
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Its some sort of counter insurgency aircraft, but somethings been done with it, I've never seen props like that before.
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TAI Hürku??
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Gaston discovered the Lockheed YO-3 "Quiet Star" on the front. ;D
I was on the track of the Embraer Tucano, similar to tAI hürku (many brother planes). :-|
I guess the plane in the middle is a MiG-17 8)
And the car in the background?
Who guesses the car model in the background?! o_O
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1965 Pontiac GTO
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What's a "car"?
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A "car" ? well... a motorcycle with 4 wheels especially designed for girls ! :P 8) :D :)
So... do we have a winner ?
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Gaston,
You're up
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OK and thanks. Just wanted to be sure.
So...
(https://s13.postimg.cc/8h1t6jr7b/Quiquizz19_SAS.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q73hrl4s3/)
What plane are we sitting in (specify version, as it is a specific one, please... not simply for example P-40, but P-40K-10-CU...) ?
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A recce Mirage III RS (of Swiss Air Force)?
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Yep !
(https://s13.postimg.cc/4rxbhwls7/Mirage_III_RS_Cockpit.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4rxbhwls3/)
The sexiest of all jets !
Got it ! Your turn !
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What exactly is this?
(https://s9.postimg.cc/s8kgajv67/German1944_Blohm_Und_Voss-_BV238-c.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/y9i57mhsb/)
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German1944BlohmUndVoss-BV238-c
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Not a BV 238.
Give it another try.
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I know you asked 'what exactly', still it's a bit unfair to say it is not a BV 238, as it is a scaled model for the BV 238 (designated FGP 227). 8)
(https://s10.postimg.cc/qzpwvuu5l/fg_227.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/nsvdc89ph/)
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Yep, FGP 227 it is. I admit to setting up a little trap, but a 1/4 scale model is not the same as the real thing, especially since it's obviously on the ground (not water) and features a landing gear (which the BV 238 doesn't).
Your turn sniperton!
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I noticed the grass and suspected it was a scaled down model plane (trap discovered), but when you said it was not a BV 238, it sent me south looking for other types. Honestly, the picture you posted doesn't have much detail, it could depict a scaled down BV 222 as well. :D
This should be easier:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/kitp5r5qp/quest01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/viewhcw5p/)
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That's a plain straight Pan Am Sikorsky S-38, probably an early "A" model from 1928.
Best regards - Mike
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Or maybe a later reproduction.
I believe there is one survivor and one reproduction.
I've seen one in the air - quite fascinating
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Mike is right, I too believe it's from the early A series. The photo is old and can be found on Sikorsky's site:
http://www.sikorskyarchives.com/S-38%20.php
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This should be fairly easy:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/5wuggoewv/35918494305_4d7aa67391_o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mklyj69ob/)
Best regards - Mike
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Training aircraft TS-11 Iskra.
(https://s3.postimg.cc/5xfk2851v/PZL_TS-11bis_B_Iskra_1018_G-_ISKA_7173269716.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yn2fyv91r/)
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Absolutely correct stiv, your turn 8)
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What kind of plane?
(https://s17.postimg.cc/ikdugoqun/35325352.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5szoa6h2j/)
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Unorthodox design with no propulsion, plus low-quality photo: Russia
Cheranovsky Bich-22 (if I transliterate it correctly):
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/glider/bich22.html
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Absolutely correct sniperton, your turn
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Let's remain with unorthodoxy:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/ubhnj35en/quest02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g51wnuujf/)
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A new one to me. But found a page about Nurflügel (flying wings).
I have previously run into Arup S-2 and S-4, but I can't say I recognized this contraption.
Which is an Arup S-1
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Correct, LameHawk, congratulations! It seems that non-conventional ideas circulated worldwide, and it was only WWII which confined creative imagination into what we regard today as 'aircraft'.
Your turn ;D
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Thank you.
Hope this one will be slightly more of a headache than the biplane Hurricane
(https://s17.postimg.cc/ssgqm6dbz/SASQuiz20.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tuqx4pw57/)
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.................Die
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Makes me think about a 2-seater Fokker D.XXI... but never heard of such a version of it !
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Hi'
Must be a Finnish Pyry , probably spell't wrongly :D
Benno
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That's right:
Valtion lentokonetehdas Pyry
Finnish built fighter trainer used from 1939 to 1962.
Benno's turn
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Guess what
(https://s3.postimg.cc/rkl82kk1v/QUIZ.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gl00qytmn/)
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Something Italian I guess, but it'll take some time to find a plane with a one-blade propeller only :P
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A mix between Avia 35 body an Il-2 wings! o_O
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The engine looks like a CR.32, definitely Italian.
Best regards - Mike
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CANSA FC.12
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Sounds good
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The missing propeller blade is only to save weight.
I think
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Molva nailed it, just waiting for confirmation. Still the one-blade prop is the funniest thing I've ever seen in this thread. Thank you! :D
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we are stuked... :(
rules says open round. :-|
try this easy eurofigther
(https://s4.postimg.cc/hy29wzx99/guess_21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fgqipqdcp/)
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Brequet Taon?
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yep Mexchiwa! ;D
is you turn!
the tread is alive! :o
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I got nothin - open house
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Guess this one:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/jk1t5snp5/quest_2017-07-24.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lom66vpbp/)
Best regards - Mike
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Su-17?
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Since there's no way to distinguish the two from this perspective, let's treat it solved.
In fact it's an Su-20, exactly the one shown here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Su-20_RB3.jpg
Your turn 8)
Best regards - Mike
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Yeah, soviet way of aircraft designations is in many cases mysterious - or obscure due to whatever reasons (politics, marketing...).
So, what's this and which aircraft does it belong to:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/yqhryjv3j/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gnop7bz8r/)
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Frogfoot? Su-22 ?
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I think its an Su-25 airbrake.
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Yes it's a Su-25's Frogfoot airbrake. Bombs was first, but I think it's fair to reward P51vsFw, since he got both questions right with no guessing.
Your turn P51vsFw!
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Thank you!
I must tell you that at the moment, I have to use my phone since my computer is down. This means that you can see the details of the photo. Please try to be fair.
Thanks again!
(https://s17.postimg.cc/y5iv4eny7/IMG_0832.jpg)
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Navy plane, so my guess is F-35C 8)
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Basically ;D
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Solved?
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Go home Mike you're drunk :P
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My guess is on a Japanese , can't remember the name ::(
Benno
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It's not F-35C
There is no hook
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Many good search parameters here.
Aichi E11A
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Thats it! ;)
Your turn LameHawk
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How good are you at airliners?
(https://s12.postimg.cc/4zxg2jr9p/SASQuiz21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h1stwp0i1/)
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It looks like a Connie with twin fins only and Trent Meteor engine nacelles and propellers.
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And the rest was silence...
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Possibly a Sud-Est SE161 Languedoc ??
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No
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Lockheed Constellation
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No
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In the lower right of the image, below the wing, there's a sign which, despite being blurred like hell in this low resolution image, and despite being mirrored, shows the text "vietato fumare" = "no smoking" on it.
This plane is italian.
Best regards - Mike
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Too easy this way that Mike managed to read "vietato fumare":
Breda-Zappata BZ.308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6GgwZIPVRU
.. ed e sempre pericoloso sporgersi
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Extracting information out of a picture is an art.
Pity I overlooked that sign ;)
Just one was built.
I guess the honour goes to sniperton
(https://s3.postimg.cc/lli7tuxnn/bz308-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/l8qtnofdr/)
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The honour goes to Mike, but I'll keep the laurel ;)
This shall be easy:
(https://s21.postimg.cc/y5kvjwwon/quest24.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5spdtgayb/)
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It looks like a D-520 dewoitine but with a more stylized nose ... so I'm sure it is not.
Is it a Arsenal VG-39? :-|
The mini double propeller baffles me :(
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How about a Potez 230
voila'
Benno
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Benno is right, it's the Potez 230. The only historic photo I could find. Another interesting French fighter evaporating before any use could be made of it...
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A little nasty one for the weekend 8)
Benno
(https://s2.postimg.cc/hao9q8l55/Benny_Quiz0001.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9hxly9f5x/)
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Has very much in common with T-6, I think : tail, undercarriage, front windshield... any derivative of it ?
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Let me guess...
(https://s2.postimg.cc/n8q9tgy0p/Frontier_Diary-gpi-080514-1-1.jpg) (https://s1.postimg.cc/7eb1yzm5b/Frontier_Diary-gpi-080514-1.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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It's a T-6 with a Ranger air-cooled inline at the postwar Cleveland air races. Not sure the exact designation, though T-6E? Mike posted pics of the pilots, think he got this one
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I think mexchiwa nailed it.
My guess was pointing in the same direction but I wasn't sure.
If we're both right, then the plane is a modified AT-6 (ranger engine, I think so too) that participated in the Kendall Trophy Race 1948, NX-61269, piloted by the former WASP pilot Betty Clark (that's why the two portraits), scoring 4th place in the race.
Best regards - Mike
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I believe you, but I couldn't find any pic.
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I tried a picture search for the registration. There are in fact a few photos of this Ranger equipped AT-6E or another one designated NJ-2, so mexchiwa is definitely right
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Open house
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No, I really believe you, but what's the source of the photo? Just for curiosity ;)
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More info on this Texan here:
http://www.skytamer.com/North_American_XAT-6E.html
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Thanks James, I found them, but the plane on the quest picture has a rather different canopy, more resembling a P-40 than any Texan version. Maybe the pic is unique and not reproduced elsewhere on the net. (Remember, Benno himself called it 'nasty'.)
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I agree with you. It appears to be a totally one-off modification. Apparently not even the internet would give it the time of day.
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For the sake of brevity, let me call it the Special And Most Mysterious Fred Astaire Version of the Texan ;D
(https://s1.postimg.cc/axd9qddq7/Fred_Astaire.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/596yzh9dn/)
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Agreed
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Hi'
I found that photo in the December issue 1986 of "Airpower"
Cheers
Benno
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If this is still an open round then.......
(https://s1.postimg.cc/vwoyvh0e7/IMG_0871.jpg)
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I think we already had this, or at least I seem to remember it: XCG-16 transport glider.
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I think we already had this, or at least I seem to remember it: XCG-16 transport glider.
I assume you're right, Sniperton, that we've seen it before after more than 180 pages. But it is so bizarre I think it's worth a 2nd look. ;)
Cloyd
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Im currently making a 1/3 scale rc model of it. It seems like it would be easy but it is proving very challenging.
Your turn Sniperton
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No time for new quest, sorry, but your model will be worth pictured when cleared for takeoff. How will you launch it? And a 1/3 scale model would have a 9 m wingspan, ouch! :D
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It will be made out of pink insulation foam. I will have a friend tow it up with his plane and release it. But first I need to get all of my measurements right.
Cheers!
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Lets gonna try to relive this thread one more time :(
Rules says we are in open round... then guess this!
(https://s28.postimg.cc/4o6axghel/guess301.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xqkl0a3o9/)
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1946 wonderweapon?
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Is a little younger... :P
Hint, it's not an F-35 but it's from the same country. ;)
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Should be this (https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/2.2446) one, the SHARC/FLAC program.
(https://s28.postimg.cc/ne1gihikd/USAF-_NASA-_Sharc-_MRF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jufisofuh/)
(https://s28.postimg.cc/d21ecqt99/77918main_AC94-0480-29.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qiycvm3kp/)
(https://s28.postimg.cc/kw1zy5125/77919main_AC94-0480-41.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/l8te4bjbt/)
(https://s28.postimg.cc/nrjoiqufx/77920main_AC94-0480-45.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/862cysihl/)
Best regards - Mike
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sip!
SHARC... :D
The facilities are worthy of the bad guys from a movie of 007 8)
You turn mike! ;D
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Thanks loco C:-)
Something easy for the meantime:
(https://s28.postimg.cc/uj75r3gxp/quest_2017-08-11_002.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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I love flying silver barrels, so I figured this one would have a RR NENE II engine, like all of them. :-*
The nose and cockpit look like a Gloster meteor.
I just put it in google: "Gloster + NENE II" and voila! ;)
The Gloster G.42 (E.1 / 44) Ace apears!
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Absolutely spot on loco and let me add: A well done investigation 8)
Your turn!
Best regards - Mike
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Tanks Mike!
lets go with another mockup!
(https://s17.postimg.cc/vh3b52x8f/ghess012.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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Oh yes, have just been on the site where this comes from a few days ago.
NATO and VTOL are my keywords on this 8)
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Never seen this thing before (not quite true since I found a reference to Air International, May 1975, which I retrieved from the shelves) I took the hint from Storebror ("with a little help from my friends").
A little confusing, but the guess is Fokker-Republic D-24 Alliance (NBMR-3).
(https://s23.postimg.cc/gwjpyzvrv/v2n2ad12.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s3.postimg.cc/8gpp2quoj/v2n2ad11.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
http://www.aerofiles.com/repub-vfx.html (http://www.aerofiles.com/repub-vfx.html)
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(https://s22.postimg.cc/fj67zmne9/Republic-_Fokker-_D-24-_Alliance.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Perfect LameHawk! ;D
is the republic + Fokker D-24 Mokeup
Looks like a geometry variable cousin of BAC TSR2 :o
You Turn!
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Thank you loco.
This lovely little seaplane is exactly what?
(https://s4.postimg.cc/9hsfkipkd/SASQuiz22.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Scale model for a big one ?
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Not bad
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Indeed, it's the Potez-CAMS 160 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potez-CAMS_160), a 5/13 scale flight model for testing the Potez-CAMS 161 airliner and mail carrier.
Here both can be seen together:
(https://s13.postimg.cc/68kexr9kn/Potez-_CAMS_161_and_160.png)
Best regards - Mike
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That's right, Big Brother.
Careful with all those cigars
(https://s29.postimg.cc/ctzuc7hrb/Smoke-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s22.postimg.cc/80smowjox/Potez-_Cams.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s30.postimg.cc/xhxmbxzoh/Potez-_Cams_160.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Over to you
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Thanks LameHawk, nice choice by the way 8)
Let's try this one:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/nkwya8wv5/quest_2017-08-14.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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Silver barrels! i love them! :-*
arrowed wings = nene engine
Straight wings = derwent engine... ;)
is the Fokker S.14 Match Trainer!
(https://s3.postimg.cc/i2c180kg3/s-14_drawings.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/e5ypc0zgf/)
Ugly with desire! :P
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Fokker (...) Ugly
How come this always goes together?
Perfectly right loco, your turn 8)
Best regards - Mike
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Tanks!
For a change we go with this beauty! ;D
Although it is very easy :-|
(https://s4.postimg.cc/j4htmjr4t/Guess815_II.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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and quite right you are, loco.
the ill fated Napier-Heston Racer
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Superb lamehawk! ;D
the pistons in H formation of Napier Sabre engine are a marvel too. :o
You turn now!
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Messerschmitt Me.209
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Is the Napier-Heston Racer, test bench of Napier Sabre engine, and speed records breaker.
It is not Me 209 V1 but seeing them look alike and much and is one year younger. :o
Good observation stiv! ;) but turn remains with Lamehawk!
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Tsk Tsk
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Right - here we go.
(https://s4.postimg.cc/mh25svywt/SASQuiz23.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Im gonna go out on a rickety limb and say that it is the prototype Boeing Model 247
(https://s28.postimg.cc/6zzk00krh/IMG_1115.jpg)
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I'm afraid you put me on the limb there. I don't think it is the prototype. As far as I have been able to find out the prototype's registration was NC13301 and has two-bladed propellers. And this one is clearly NC13316. And United Airlines it is, cost them $50,000!
So, pretty close.
Apart from this detail you are of course absolutely right. Well done.
So over to you P51
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To be completely honest I was not expecting to get it at all. Since I was not planning on getting it, please excuse my lateness in getting a new quest ready.
Give me a moment
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Here we go:
(https://s11.postimg.cc/haskoux6r/new_quest.jpg)
Good Luck!
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F-35?
*SCNR* 8)
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Notice the quote on my messages:
"It's totally foolproof, until you mess something up."
This quest of mine was totally foolproof. Unfortunately, I messed up. If you find the mistake it will lead you to the answer you seek.
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Looks like an early version, with engine without carenated and open cockpit, of this plane:
(https://s2.postimg.cc/6fwm1jsnt/avia_lombardi_FL3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
:o
But when I look for a name with a numbers less appears this:
(https://s2.postimg.cc/64f5osc7t/Lombardi_Fl1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/64f5osc7p/)
;D
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I will give it to you Loco
It is a Lombardi-AVIA F.L. 3
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Tanks!
let's go with this!
not is from the country that apparent... ;)
(https://s2.postimg.cc/mapr012hl/guess_818_II.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
cheers!
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I guess this is a captured Kyushu Q1W "Tokai", a japanese anti-submarine light bomber.
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you are on Oscarito! ;D
was the first plane in the world designed for anti-submarine role
Gruman Tracker have much of it.
you turn now!
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Here it is:
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg560/Oscarito109/x_1.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/Oscarito109/media/x_1.jpg.html)
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o_O This is the image that I see:
(https://s2.postimg.cc/qz67el8m1/photobucket.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
::( ::( ::( ::( ::( ::(
Please do not leave me out!
Use the service integrated in this same page PostImage
(https://s2.postimg.cc/rd7je6spl/SAS_postimage.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Thank you! ;)
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What's going on here? Never had this trouble before.
OK! Let's try again:
(https://s30.postimg.cc/uot2g2voh/image.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The engines, nacelles and gears look pretty much like a G4M2/3 Betty, so I put my money on the "Japs" pile.
Best regards - Mike
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Following the Mike track, I found a totally metallic betty for heavy transport role :o
Tachikawa Ki-92 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachikawa_Ki-92 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachikawa_Ki-92)
base for the Curtiss C-46 Commando ?????
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That's it!
Unfortunately for the japs, many wonderful designs were not put into mass production due to wartime lack of resources.
Your turn now.
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Tanks! :D
Guess this!
(https://s2.postimg.cc/oqsxzzzdl/guess822.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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Italian, I would say...
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This is a Gloster F.5/34.
First flown in 1937. A bit delayed because Gloster had a more important aircraft in production: the Gladiator!
Anyway it seems somebody preferred other designs like the Hurricane and the Spitfire (not quite understandable...), so only two prototypes were made
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perfect as always Lamehawk! ;D
i hope you think that was an early jap prototype or italian. :D
works with gaston ;)
you turn now!
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Sorry to disappoint you, loco. I had seen this plane before.
But I admit there were quite a few similar types around - not just Japanese or Italian.
This one shouldn't be too difficult. It really looks as if it wants to go into the sky where it belongs.
(https://s4.postimg.cc/f6sgv2tbh/SASQuiz24.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The Hoax nuclear bomber! :o
This is the Myasishchev M-50 Bounder
Soviet Counterpart of B-58 Hustler. But with much more theatricality.
The time when the soviet bombers seemed designed by a dark comic artist. ;)
In the cold war in the United States an absurd article was published with some photos of this terrifying bomber saying that it was powered by atomic energy!!! :D
How strange, the press manipulating the information ... :P
When people are afraid, do not think ... and consume!
(https://s2.postimg.cc/oh3szmeah/myasishchev-m-50-ground-hatch.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
https://oldmachinepress.com/2014/03/26/myasishchev-m-50-m-52-bounder/ (https://oldmachinepress.com/2014/03/26/myasishchev-m-50-m-52-bounder/)
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You do like shiny things, don't you? ;D
Your turn again, loco
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;D ;D ;D ;D
Like everyone else!
Let's try again with a thoroughbred
Guess this!
(https://s2.postimg.cc/3uxgx9oex/guess_819_III.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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DB
The rest is not German
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Yes, in fact the engine was a German DB 601A
Wikipedia recommends see also:
Napier-Heston Racer and Messerschmitt Me 209 V1 ;)
A fundamental part of the mechanics is in an unusual place ...
At least, it's the only one thath I know. o_O
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Colorized photo?
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yes :-[
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So there we are... apparently a kind of racing plane, definitely not german (I should know otherwise :P ), but built around a german engine.
The engine clearly looks like a 601, not a 605, so this is not a post-war design (in that case any engineer would rather pick the higher performing 605 as it has the same dimensions like the 601 more or less).
According to what we know nowadays, the design must have been an epic fail.
The radiators on the fuselage side make smooth airflow around the tail section an impossible thing, thus the achieved speed will be way below the aimed target speed and most probably issues with tail flutter would occur surprisingly early.
Who would do such a mistake?
From the components used, it could be some eastern european country, Italy or Japan.
The inner main gear door covers and the tail gear remind me of a Ki-61, this would also match the strange radiator desing that might have been influenced by a sneak peek across the pacific ocean (P-38 anyone?), so this time I put my money on the "Japs" pile again.
Best regards - Mike
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Me thinks its a Japanese someething (Kawasaki?)
Benno :P
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It definitely ended badly ...
(https://s27.postimg.cc/qp9o4c4yr/guess_destruction.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
It has a DB 601A (Lamehawk), is pre-war, is Japanese (mike) and is kawasaki (Benno). ;D
The lateral radiators not only generate vibration in the tail ... also they eat all the hot air of the exhaust pipes
The Barbie doll loves it. :P
No more clues can be given. :-X
regards!
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That is what is known as inter service rivalry
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Someone will say the name of the damn plane? o_O
Kawasaki ki- ?? ???
Or we leave it like this and move to another? ;)
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OHHHHH LOL! :D
Kawasaki Ki-78
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Suuper! ;D
yes in fact!
https://oldmachinepress.com/2012/11/03/kawasaki-ki-78-ken-iii/
Good to pass the baton! ;)
you turn P51vsFw190!
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it was felt that an attempt on the 3 km absolute world speed record was an obtainable goal
:))
Sure, attempting it was not punishable there ^-^
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An easy one:
(https://s27.postimg.cc/hso6i4rs3/IMG_1155.jpg)
Cheers!
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B-17 test aircraft used for dropping dropping "buzz bombs"
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Nope, guess again
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That's a Pratt & Whitney flight test bed for turboprop engines.
Allison used B-17s for their T38, T40 and T56 engines, Wright for their T35 and T37 and P&W did the same for their T34 and T64 engines.
This is what the Allison T38 installation looked like:
(https://s29.postimg.cc/t6eeat8lj/4gybg3i3wvbz.jpg)
This is what the Wright T35 Typhoon installation looked like:
(https://s29.postimg.cc/o90tpp6mf/b17test.jpg)
...and this is the Pratt & Whitney T34 (internat company designation: PT2) from our quest:
(https://s29.postimg.cc/ymx2571zb/23-3.jpg)
(https://s29.postimg.cc/9uxfxyksn/Pratt-_Whitney_T-34_B-17_testbed_NAN10-50.jpg)
There's even a funny 'shopped picture floating on the internet showing the plane with only the T34 engine installed, which would not be all the odd as the B-17 engine testbed could in fact take off on the single T34 running, with it's rated 5500hp it was somewhat more powerful than the 4 Cyclones of the B-17G together after all:
(https://s29.postimg.cc/d31xb072f/mystery0015.jpg)
The plane in question originally was built as a B-17G, Serial #44-85734, Construction #8643-VE, delivered to USAAF as 44-85734.
On June 25, 1947 it was sold to Esperado Mining Co., Altus, OK as scrap.
Pratt & Whitney Engines, Hartford, CT purchased it on November 19, 1947 for $2,700.
The plane was re-registered as N5111N and converted to a civilian plane by Boeing, Settle, in 1948.
It was converted for the 5th engine in the nose and used for development of P&W T34 & T64 Turboprops until 1967.
On June 16, 1967 the plane was sold to Bradley Air Museum, Windsor Locks, CT.
It got badly damaged by a Tornado on October 3, 1979 and was sold to the New England Air Museum, CT in 1981 where the wreck was stored until 1987.
Tom Reilly Vintage Aircraft, Kissimee, FL purchased the wreck in 1987, stored it in Windsor Locks, CT until 1992 and finally restored it to flying condition until 1992.
Initially the plane was named "Outhouse Mouse", later christened "Liberty Belle".
On July 13, 1999 it was sold to Randsburg Corp, Portland, OR, registered as "N817BR".
Don Brooks/The Liberty Foundation, Atlanta, GA acquired the plane in 2003 and kept it until 2011.
It was once again restored to airworthy conditions at Tom Reilly Vintage Aircraft and finally took to the air again for the first time after the 1979 Tornado disaster on December 8, 2004 at 2:40pm and 12 seconds.
On June 13, 2011 the plane suffered in-flight fire and was forced to make an emergency landing in field, Oswego, IL.
The emergency landing was successful and crew and passangers evacuated the aircraft which was subsequently consumed by fire.
That's what the plane looked like in 2010:
(https://s29.postimg.cc/51dot3oav/BL2_0331_B-17_G_N390_TH_Liberty_Belle_right_front.jpg)
This is the sad view of the crashed plane:
(https://s29.postimg.cc/p6bucb7if/b-17-flying-fortress-crash.jpg)
And some footage of the accident here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhVPOlouMqI
Very interesting pick for a quest plane James, my regards!
Best regards - Mike
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Well done Mike! Very well done! This plane used to belong to the air museum I currently work at so I am rather attached to it.
Youre up!
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So you're working at the New England Air Museum, nice 8)
Let's give this silver barrel a try:
(https://s29.postimg.cc/604m8zv7r/quest_2017-08-26.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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FMA Pulqui II? Or an unpowered glider version.
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unpowered glider version
That's it, your turn :)
Best regards - Mike
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Ok, more difficult then, and its not what you think it is:
(https://s29.postimg.cc/qnnlj3k5z/IMG_1182.jpg)
Good luck.
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Is it a Fw-190 replica produced by Flukwerk GmbH ?
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Damn that was quick!
Youre up Six.
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There is one of those replica (or maybe made by other company, I do not know ?) not far from my home... it is based in Prangins, also not far from Nyon... saw it flying... very nice, except for the sound of the engine !
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Shouldn't be too hard.
(https://s2.postimg.cc/nn45goftl/German-_Prototypes-_Lippisch-_P.13_A-_Interceptor-194.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Led up to this.
(https://s2.postimg.cc/yb7wfipsp/050324-_F-1234_P-018.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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F-35.
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Lippisch P.13a
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The Lippish P.13a is correct the other is not it's a Convair XF92A.
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Here we go again:
(https://s2.postimg.cc/4kl0r7pgp/IMG_1192.jpg)
James
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Japanese G8N Renzan Mountain Range (Rita)
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North American XB-28 Dragon. B-25 Mitchell's son.
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Kilo, You got it! ;D
Your turn
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Bombs, remember that the G8N is four engined.
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Got nothing right now so, open round! :D
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LOL Yeah. :)
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Ok. Open round. I suck but still get to post a plane. :)
(https://s19.postimg.cc/cq2txtuxv/Plane.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f7el53eu7/)
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I can imagine the incredible comfort of the four soldiers sitting right behind the first Pratt & Whitney Wasp engine... o_O
Pure silesium and vibrant relaxation seats! :P
(https://s26.postimg.cc/utazb4c95/homer_reclinable.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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Northrop C-19 Alpha
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You got it. :)
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Yay!!!!!
(https://s26.postimg.cc/vqea2zzh5/IMG_1198.jpg)
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I have to drop my inevitable guess: F-35?
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I guess it is in theory.
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A mercenary plane ?
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MFI Biafra fighter bomber :D 8)
Benno
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Benno is right, the Malmö Flygindustri MFI-9 Junior. Pretty known plane, famous for their implication on Biafra war.
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Was a certain Von Rosen piloting it ?
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Benno, your turn
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Yes , I know, me and my big mouth :P
Benno
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Here we go
(https://s26.postimg.cc/oo0n10vwp/Benny_Quiz0003.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/zaug6g41x/)
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Nord 1101 Noralpha / Me208?
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Close enough , your turn
Benno
(https://s26.postimg.cc/ldo3qt9vt/Benny_Quiz0002.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6ugypegqt/)
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Yes - F-BGGH was indeed a Nord 1101 Noralpha C/N 98
The Noralpha was designed in 1941 by French in the frame of their policy of "collaboration" with Nazi Germany (that included also producing aerial bombs and aircraft engines for the IIIrd Reich), and produced under the name "Messerschmitt 208" - a 4 seats liaison aircraft, very comfortable and so appreciated as such by Goering that it got the nickname of "L'avion de Goering". The plane was a development of the Me108 Taifun, with among others an extended range and a nose wheel gear. The war production version was equipped with an Argus 220HP 8 cylinders V engine, while the post war version used a Renault 220HP inverted-V 6 cylinders engine. Production went on after 1945 with a series of 200 aircraft called Nord 1101 Ramier, while the original Me208 version with Argus engine was renamed Nord 1100 Noralpha, but in practice all these aircarft were called Noralpha, the name "Ramier" (common wood pigeon) apparently did not appeal the crews, maybe because of the sense given to the vocable pigeon in French current slang (a dupe).
Now an easy one, though a lousy photo
(https://s26.postimg.cc/51n3tw3op/1934a.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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After much searching think it was under my own nose ... Here in Argentina ... :o
But I'm not sure. :-| this no have a rear gunner.
Name along image
(https://s26.postimg.cc/4rgy8k1vt/V-65_F_for_Argentina_r.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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You are very very close - so we can consider this as a right answer - the photo you uploaded is of an Argentinian V-65F with P&W Wasp 550hp engine, MG-40 Colt machine guns, 11 built, 1933. Some of these also had a rear Scarff MG turret.
The quizz photo was an advanced version of the Corsair V65, called V92C builtChina with Hornet T2D1 700hp engine, 20 built and delivered, 1934.
Another version, the V93 was bought by Thailand (Siam), equiped with Pratt & Whitney "SD" Hornet, 12 delivered: 9 observation V-93S and 3 V-93 S As (Attack), 1934. In 1936 the Thai Aeronautical Department built 25 V-93SAs under license, in 1937 they built 25 more and in 1950 built 50 V-93SAs. These aircraft saw service against the French in the various French-Thai incidents/war.
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tanks! ;D
good info too!
I lost the last of the silver barrels, which was the pulqui II glider. ::(
so now let's go with this
Guess this!
(https://s26.postimg.cc/ybt6n0jux/guess820.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Well, well.
Must be S.N.C.A.C. NC-1080
As far as my French brings me (and that is not far) just one was built, first flight July 29, 1949. Lost april 7, 1950
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you are on Lamehawk! ;D
have the baton now!
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What's this then?
(https://s26.postimg.cc/58axw7m6h/SASQuiz25.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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(https://s26.postimg.cc/fgmiaoya1/twing-tail-boston.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
DB-131
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Yep.
DB-131 was Douglas DB-7 which the French tested with twin fins.
What they got out of it, I don't know.
Baton returned to sender
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Thank you! ;D
This is part of the mockups section! :o
guess this!
(https://s26.postimg.cc/6407ips3t/guess821.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It looks like a Tu-22M "Backfire" mockup...
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it's not the Tu-22M ...
even is older than the Tu-22 (nothing)
Is a bomber and is of the cold war ... but it is only a mockup ;)
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Mock-ups aren't exactly my specialty (muck-ups would be closer to the point).
So it took a bit of time.
The Martin XB-68 was the answer to a 1952 requirement for a supersonic medium tactical bomber.
The Martin design won but seems to have run into difficulties over the inertial guidance bombing and navigation system. Eventually the design was cancelled
(https://s26.postimg.cc/hgp7p6ccp/XB-68-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Exact! ;D
I am very ignorant of the English language as to differentiate muck-ups from mockcup... ::(
That's why sometimes I laugh at things that are not a joke. and other jokes I do not understand. ;D :D ;D
you turn again Lamehawk!
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Well - English is not my first language either. Muck-up is screwing everything up. Try substituting "m" with "f".
Anyway, let's try something relatively easy. What's this mess?
(https://s26.postimg.cc/3x9ugo26h/SASQuiz26.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That's the upper group of handles used to throw away an F-35.
*SCNR*
Best regards - Mike
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CH-53
In other news, I am the 2,300th reply on this thread.............interesting.
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That's the upper group of handles used to throw away an F-35.
*SCNR*
That's what it is Mike; can't be anything else :))
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P51 - you seem to be only the second to answer after Storebror (we wouldn't like to say you were only number 2!).
But since you were the first to give the correct answer, you have won the right to come up with the next - more difficult - question
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All right then.....A difficult one:
(https://s26.postimg.cc/6mj44x6c9/Not_French.jpg)
Cheers and good luck!
James
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OOOOOO OOOOOH!!!!
I know one at last!
This came up on a MOOC 'Futurelearn' course wot I dun, in a discussion regarding prejudice against monoplanes within the air ministries of the Allies despite demonstrated promising performance figures.
Loening M-8
Despite being a heavily armed 2 seater, it had a top speed of 145mph which was fast in 1918. Cancelled due to end of hostilities,
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You got it BD!
Your turn
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https://youtu.be/o9NUTgz-a8c
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Let's try to get out of this flat spin ... ::(
according to the rules is Open Round
Guess this one!
(https://s26.postimg.cc/jticed1xl/guess912.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Tip: Although it has the same tail is not a B-17 :P
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Boeing Model 400 aka XF8B
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yes is the XF8B-1! ;D
Boeing guys made a fighter with 60% of B-17 size ... Big is better? o_O
you turn James!
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I thought that I had gotten cocky with that last guess but I see that it paid off.
Alright, a new one huh?.......Let's see here......
(https://s26.postimg.cc/kxe34uct5/New_this_time.jpg)
Have Fun and Good Luck!
James
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I think it's an Autogiro 8)
Benno
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Yes Benno but what kind......
Remember, there are 4 choices as to who made this Autogyro.
Cierva
Pitcairn
Kellett
Or
Kayaba
Although for practical reasons, Kayaba should be roped in with Kellett.
Choose the correct manufacturer and YOU WIN!.
Have fun
James
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OH OH HAS TO BE AN F35
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(https://s26.postimg.cc/igrjw2eq1/kellet.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/duvfnpt6t/)
Is a 1935 Kellet YG-1B "Autogiro" (AF37-377,N109K) at the mid-atlantic air museum, Pennsylvania.
i don know if has enough information... :P
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Loco, you are spot on.
Your turn.
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tanks James! ;D
Let's go with an easy one ... or hide some trick?
(https://s26.postimg.cc/lmvg7zoqx/guess149.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Guess this!
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Silver barrels, my favourite category.
I'll keep my mouth shot, otherwise I might give away that it's an F-35 :D
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An evolution of the MiG-17?
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I'm getting annoyed by Storebror's continual erroneous identification of the F35.
Just to clarify, here is the actual F35, which is going to be used on our new carriers.
(https://s26.postimg.cc/x15nf0ot5/multiplane.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I think it's the most aesthetic flying silver barrel. ;D
It's not a MiG... but in that answer you have a great clue. ;)
It is previous to MiG-17 ... Contemporary with MiG-15Bis. o_O
Share the engine with the Ilyushin IL-30.
Cheers!
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here is the actual F35, which is going to be used on our new carriers
I would love to see the wingfold mechanism in action ]clown[
It's not a MiG... but in that answer you have a great clue. ;)
Indeed. And it never flew - unfortunately one must say. What a bitter fate for this beautiful plane.
Best regards - Mike
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I'm getting annoyed by Storebror's continual erroneous identification of the F35.
lmaooooo (https://i.imgur.com/6nv1ZHE.png) (https://i.imgur.com/6nv1ZHE.png) (https://i.imgur.com/6nv1ZHE.png) (https://i.imgur.com/6nv1ZHE.png)
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Sukhoi Su-17
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yes but need more information... is not the fitter... :o
codename?
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There seems to be some confusion as to what an F-35 looks like.
So here are a couple of pictures of a SAAB F-35 Draken and a TF-35 (with me in it)
(https://s26.postimg.cc/x5yz97r0p/F-35.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s26.postimg.cc/sy470gpl5/Draken.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The 1949 Su-17.
i.e. The Su-17 before the Su-17
AKA Aircraft R
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Yep! ;D
the same name was the trick. ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-17_(1949)
You turn again James!
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Great Picture at the queen Lamehawk! :D
that F-35 can be seened!
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I'm too smart for my own good :P
Try this!
(https://s26.postimg.cc/oah03695l/China.jpg)
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Hi'
I wonder could it be a Japanese "Topsy" ??
Benno :-|
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here is the actual F35, which is going to be used on our new carriers
I would love to see the wingfold mechanism in action ]clown[
It's not a MiG... but in that answer you have a great clue. ;)
Indeed. And it never flew - unfortunately one must say. What a bitter fate for this beautiful plane.
Best regards - Mike
Mike, regarding wing-fold, instructions here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaXIUpgKdKA for your erudition
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for your erudition
How did I make it here without knowing before? ]notworthy[
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I'll give you a hint.......
It's Japanese
And Benno, You are very close
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Interesting photo, but not very clear.
Nevertheless it must be the Nakajima Ki-34 'Thora'
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You got it Lame.
Your turn.
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Thank you.
It took some time to find something. Seems like Google's photo recognition is getting too good.
But this plane ought to be recognizable to the human eye (without too much trouble I think)
(https://s26.postimg.cc/l5g0jiaa1/SASQuiz27.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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German ???
Benno
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G-38?
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That's right, P-51.
Back to you
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I'm nailing these!
Try this
(https://s26.postimg.cc/dy60bat3t/Guess_again.jpg)
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Ford Econoline 1974 maybe? Don't know the trailer, sorry.
Best regards - Mike
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I'll give you the bonus points but you still have to tell me what the plane is.
Nice try though.
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Well that's an F-35, I thought this goes without saying ]clown[
Best regards - Mike
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I can see that this is a bit difficult so I will give you a couple hints.
It has its history in Beech Aircraft in Wichita, Kansas but is not a Beech creation
It first flew in 1938 but was introduced in 1951
36 examples were built
Only one is on display in a museum
And
It was evaluated as a close air support aircraft by the Columbian Air Force; Four were later delivered
It should be easier to narrow it down now.
Good luck
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Dang!! You make this hard !!Can't find a thing on it.
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this makes me start again ... o_O
was behind the track of some Zlin Z-37 with smoothest improvements... ::(
(https://s26.postimg.cc/ed0z0zafd/zling_z37.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Loco,
You are on the right track.
It is a Cropduster
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Let me add more useless information :D
In the cockpit of each aircraft of this type, you will find a mandatory placard telling
Maneuvering Speed, Vp - 110 m.p.h.
Server Pull-Ups should be confined to speeds below 110 m.p.h.
No acrobatic maneuvers including spins approved.
Best regards - Mike
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P51
Was it some kind of COIN aircraft ?
Benno
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Not initially I don't think.
I can see that youre still having trouble so I will give you the designers name.....
Herb Rawdon
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now it's very easy ;)
It's a Rawdon T-1 SD
if I had realized that the museum was Wichita's, I would have found it earlier. ::(
I thought it had been done in beechcraft workshops in wichita. :-|
here 3 of the T-1Ms built for the Colombian Air Force for COIN tasks
(https://s26.postimg.cc/3u62wgqkp/rawdon_colombia.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Originally believed that it was to combat drug trafficking by fumigating coca ... but obviously those are the prejudices that the system instilled in us about the beautiful colombia ... the army does other things ... it also attacks peasants ... o_O :P
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Great job Loco!
Your turn!
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tanks! was hard ;D
now we go with another from mockups section :-[
I swear it's not a 50's car hood cowling decoration. :P
Guess this!
(https://s26.postimg.cc/webfe7j49/guess921.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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I hate you
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Oh yeah, the brits in 58.
Best regards - Mike
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I hate you
:o ;D ;) ;D
Tip:
in the tunnel of wind only managed to verify that that wing configuration has more drag than a straight wing
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that wing configuration has more drag than a straight wing
Does it?
I know about the comparison to a swept wing config, but the conclusion was that the increased zero-lift wave drag on the M model was caused by the wing's body nacelles, because most of it occured on isolated nacelle measurements without any wing already.
Best regards - Mike
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yes my bad... :(
compare with swept wing.
mike gives the "M" leter as a tip ;)
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too hard? :(
another tip, the opposite of: weak leg without valor
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nobody guess... :-[
::( ::( ::( too borring... ::( ::( ::(
was the Armstrong Whitworth AWP.22 M Wing SST
here a model of civil version...
(https://s26.postimg.cc/yo3wt0qyx/armstrong_whitworth_m_wing_model.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ax4jawqrp/)
and the drag analisis that mike tell
http://naca.central.cranfield.ac.uk/reports/arc/cp/0773.pdf (http://naca.central.cranfield.ac.uk/reports/arc/cp/0773.pdf)
open round then. :(
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So what's on with you lazy Mauerblümchen?
Time for a silver barrel, guess this:
(https://s26.postimg.cc/y5x5as4gp/quest_2017-09-26.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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seems to have come out of a night of drunken sex in a hangar between a yak-36 Freehand and a Folland Gnat ... :o
has the mother's eyes :P
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Mmmmmm......thinking of Italian AERFER ARIETE 1958 fighter ?
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Absolutely correct titus, well done, spot on.
Your turn :)
Best regards - Mike
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Ok, now i'm sure! I have seen this prototype few years ago at Museo Storico Dell' Aeronautica Militare - Vigna di Valle-
(https://s26.postimg.cc/glgeu0hgp/Ambrosini_Aerfar_Ariete_MM569_6530699699.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/sakehz8f9/)
(from Wikipedia)
The Aerfer Ariete (Italian for Ram) was a prototype fighter aircraft built in Italy in 1958. It was a refined derivative of the Aerfer Sagittario 2, and was an attempt to bring that aircraft up to a standard where it could be mass-produced as a viable combat aircraft.
Retaining most of the Sagittario 2's layout with a nose intake and ventral exhaust for the main Derwent engine, the Ariete added a Rolls-Royce Soar RS.2 auxiliary turbojet engine to provide additional power for climbing and sprinting. This used a dorsal, retractable intake with its exhaust at the tail.
No production ensued; a proposed version with an auxiliary rocket engine instead of the auxiliary turbojet, the Aerfer Leone, was abandoned before a prototype could be built.
Ciao!
Titus
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Ok, my attempt , not so difficult but... Guess what is depicted here ;) ;D
(https://s26.postimg.cc/ji8181co9/palestra_re2006_big.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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the logic says that for the shape of the wings and the opening of the landing gear is a Reggiane 2005.
But it would be very easy. :-[
Although I ended up with four-blade propellers originally the 2006 reggiane had one of three. :-|
risk reggiane 2006. ;D
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Nailed it Locopiston! ;) your turn
Ciao
Titus
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tanks! ;D
go with this model of the dinosaurs era :P
guess this
(https://s26.postimg.cc/lp1a4vozt/guess815.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hill Pterodactyl Mk V
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yes indeed! is the westland hill pterodactyl MkV
The previous versions, look more modern ... :P
You turn James!
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Lets go with this:
(https://s26.postimg.cc/6am6sjv6h/today.jpg)
Good luck!
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Alright, here's a hint:
It shares the name of a Cessna type.
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shares the name with a cessna and many other small wooden models.
Incredibly from this lonely plane have too many photos, even mods for the FS.
I found it on those pages.
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i forget to say the name... o_O
;D
Pasped W-1 Skylark
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There you go!
Youre up Loco
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tanks james! ;D
Guess this stylized plane!
(https://s25.postimg.cc/zc5531wgv/guess309.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It looks like a Curtiss O-52 but I know that it is not.
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I will just say that O-52 owl is not ;)
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Curtiss FX13C
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yep!
also is the tamiya color code for japan IJA green :P
You turn James! ;D
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More challenging this time Loco ;)
(https://s25.postimg.cc/yiouzlbu7/New2.png)
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That's a 727 with an engine on steroids.
Apparently the fan went wild and the blades turned inside out.
Best regards - Mike
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Boeing 727 - GE 36 UDF Test Plane.
test of unbuild 7-J-7
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at least that say boeing page :-[
(https://s25.postimg.cc/fy5opmwq7/727-63_udf.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
In the mid 1980s, Boeing used a company-owned 727 to test a new engine for a proposed twin propeller-turbine transport that was to be designated the Model 7-J-7. A prototype General Electric GE-36 UDF (unducted fan or propfan) engine was mounted on the right rear side in place of the standard turbo jet engine. The UDF engine was a hybrid between a turbofan and a turboprop. It had a significant weight reduction and a 45% increase in fuel efficiency, however, Boeing did not develop the 7-J-7 that was used to test it.
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Absolutely!
You again Loco
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OK!
Tanks! ;D
guess this!
(https://s1.postimg.cc/6a2n63uswf/guess901.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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XP-37
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Yes! Right!
congratulations for inaugurating the 200 page! ;D
you turn James!
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It has occurred to me that Loco and I are like the superpowers in an arms race that is this Quest thread. :D
This should be easy this time:
(https://s1.postimg.cc/9523rus7v3/try.jpg)
Good Luck
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then I start to comb as kim jong un o_O :o ;D :D ;D :D
do you like the orange hairstyle for you? :P
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Can I be Putin?
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only if you pass the test on horseback with the naked torso o_O :-X :-X :P
(https://s1.postimg.cc/zvsgt84fj/putin_en_torso.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5tkncxstij/)
the plane is a Farman F.60 Goliath
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Wrong!
It is not a Goliath.
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It's the Farman F.121 Jabiru
of The Danish Airlines (DDL - part of SAS these days).
It seems the French aircraft designers in the twenties ran an internal competition along the lines of "I can make my old shed fly -can you beat that?"
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Lame with the steal! :o
You’re up dude!
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Secondary question: "Now, "Dude" - that's a name no one would self-apply where I come from"
Citation from where?
Primary question: What's this oddity?
(https://s1.postimg.cc/1vkmpwae9b/SASQuiz28.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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this gas bag is hard to guess :-[
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the part that is seen makes me remember this
This crappy plane is the fault of those who make me dive deep in internet searching for strange aircrafts. ;D
(https://s28.postimg.cc/vdlmgissd/guess16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5uta3i989/)
Enjoy!
but piloted by this guy
Inspired by "organic airplanes" o_O
(https://s24.postimg.cc/nmxh04fdx/1stt_Hybrid_Motorcycle.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gwgzqos81/)
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Lame, as a response to the citation you posted; it is from The Big Lebowski
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Plus points to you, P51, for knowing your classics 8)
Of course you still need to find the plane in order to win the big prize: the right to bother the rest of us with an oddity of your own choice.
And loco, you are not entirely off the mark. If you can guess the configuration, you may have chance to find it. Although the quality of the picture is quite miserable, the plane is from a fairly civilized country - first flight 1970.
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I take the silence as a surrender.
This experimental plane is an Aereon 26, a hybrid design, part airship, part conventional aircraft in order to investigate lifting body design.
(https://s1.postimg.cc/3t4e1vbgy7/1413513079_b6f9398eac_z.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/7ut4ug3nan/aereon26_project-tiger.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9tpbks95m3/)
This means Open round
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then it was not far! :-[
It was a dang bag of gas! ;)
to hard!
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a supereasy one then:
Guess this!
(https://s1.postimg.cc/2m05enz5b3/guess710.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
cheers!
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Curtiss, no ? some plane developped to succeed the P-40, I think : looks quite similar !
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of course ! ;)
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Curtiss XP-?? :-|
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46?
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Yes! ;)
I think it's the shortest and most undecided answer to all the thread! :(
but still is correct! ;D
Your turn Radoye!
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That XP-46 looks great, really beautiful.
Nice choice.
Best regards - Mike
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Curtiss sold all the XP-46 information for $ 56,000 to a company called North American Aviation... :o
What would they have done with it? ;)
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I know that myth but don't buy it off.
Nevertheless, it's a beauty.
Best regards - Mike
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(http://www.aamalebourget.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-premier-Potez-53.jpg)
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That's what happens when you put a MiG-3, a Bf-109 raceplane and a Lockheed Vega together on the Transporter Platform and during the Beam process there's some magnetic storm in the universe, resulting in a merged object arriving at the target.
Best regards - Mike
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That's poetry!
French engine I'd say
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That's what happens when you put a MiG-3, a Bf-109 raceplane and a Lockheed Vega together on the Transporter Platform and during the Beam process there's some magnetic storm in the universe, resulting in a merged object arriving at the target.
Best regards - Mike
So it's not an F35 then.........
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potez_53 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potez_53)
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So it's not an F35 then.........
I hate to say but yes, it could very well be one :P
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potez_53 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potez_53)
Correct, your turn! :)
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Never heard about that racer before! Sure the french did beautiful race planes back then!!
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stalled again... :( too much time passed wit no aircraft posted... :-|
rules says open round. ;)
I go with one super easy for sunday night ;D
(https://s1.postimg.cc/8124x59c9r/guess819.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Guess this!
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Bristol Buckingham
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of course james! ;D
the tread is alive again!
you turn!
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(https://s1.postimg.cc/4danki3lq7/FAC68217-470_C-4_BF7-_BB9_F-3_A9_F7463_E42_C.jpg)
This should be easy.
James
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Back-end of a Fokker DVII on the left
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Is this a trick question?
The obvious answer is of course Pitts Special, one of the most ubiquitous and best known acro plane types of the last 50 years or so. But it sounds strange that you'd ask for this, it's like posting an image of a Boeing 747 or something like that.
So, is there more here than meets the eye?
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Would you believe me If I told you that I own this exact plane?
By the way Radoye, you got it. It wasnt meant to be hard. It was meant to be found quickly.
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Would you believe me If I told you that I own this exact plane?
No because I know your flying skills :P
Show us some more pics of your plane and we might get convinced.
We even have a dedicated topic for such occasions: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1364.0.html
Best regards - Mike
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OK then what's this:
(http://forum.valka.cz/files/ki-28_2_610.jpg)
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A licensed built BMW VI engine in an airframe that just sucks 8)
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A licensed built BMW VI engine...
This is of course correct! ;)
...in an airframe that just sucks 8)
Did it really suck so much? The main competitor (which was ultimatively accepted fro series production) was more maneuverable, but this wasn't too bad either as far as i'm aware. :-|
So, we know this is an F-35, but what version? :P
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I do own it.....because it is an R/C plane :P
The Pitts in the picture is my R/C plane, it is 1/5th scale.
No one in their right mind would let me have a real plane.
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Did it really suck so much?
Absolutely.
Compare it to another plane that took into the air in the very same year like this one and you will see:
(https://s1.postimg.cc/5g7bkyjddr/spit.jpg)
Or, to make matters worse, these two which have been in the air the year before already:
(https://s1.postimg.cc/2hv1hgaw6n/109.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/1lyk2017qj/)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/3z16j7fo2n/hurri.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/36ob1gz2cb/)
See? Creating an airframe like that one of the plane in question, at that time, means that the engineers have boozed slorry.
Best regards - Mike
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I see your point, but i would rather rephrase it - those are samples of superb airframes that were clearly ahead of their time. Most of the stuff flying around during this timeframe wasn't nearly this advanced.
This:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/PZL24_prototyp.jpg)
Or this:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Fokker_D.XXI_Soesterberg.jpg)
Or this:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Poliakarpov_I-153_Musee_du_Bourget_P1010993.JPG)
Or even this:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Morane_D-3801_J-143.jpg)
And this:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Curtiss_P-36A_Hawk_LSideFront_Airpower_NMUSAF.jpg)
Compared to this lot our mystery plane doesn't look that "sucky"...
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It is a Kawasaki Ki-28. It lost out to the Nakajima Ki-27 (Nate) in competition. Open Round. I got nothing.
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Z, thanks for ending that. :P
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Open Round.
Now that it's obvious that Zflyer is right, I hope Radoye doesn't mind :)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/24m1t49xin/quest.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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It is a Kawasaki Ki-28. It lost out to the Nakajima Ki-27 (Nate) in competition. Open Round. I got nothing.
Yes, that's what it is! :)
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So we can continue with the beast in my previous post.
What's that? 8)
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It's an ornithopter of a type unknown to me (until i googled the image just now and found out). So i'm not going to answer because i cheated, it wouldn't be fair.
Fascinating things these ornithopters. There's one being developed here in my neighborhood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-HQQYOAL0A
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It reminded me a lot of a vehicle of the Dune game of 1990 ... what a novelty that was.
(https://s1.postimg.cc/1s8nlbjb3z/2-ornithopter.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Not only for the video game, but also the mixed form of mechanics and natural reminded me of HR giger. That was the designer of the movie Dune and Alien.
So at first I thought it was a sculpture.
but finally I found the Riout 102T "Alérion" and what is left of the store in the musee-aviation-angers.
(https://s1.postimg.cc/7ezwriq4en/Riout_102_T_Al_rion.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I could not find the information if I ever take-off a few inches off the ground by itself. But unfortunately Pinterest and its multiple entries in the search engine make it impossible. (i hate pinterest)
There is no doubt, that is a work of art!
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I could not find the information if I ever take-off a few inches off the ground by itself.
No it didn't and you're perfectly right loco, your turn 8)
Best regards - Mike
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So at first I thought it was a sculpture.
In fact it's hard to believe it was not a sculpture. It looks so much as being made of wires, papier maché, and plaster. ;D
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okay! We go with an ugly rare duck again!
guess this!
(https://s1.postimg.cc/9ns531r6lr/guess1024.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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That is the Belyayev DB-LK of 1939. It was a bomber prototype that fetured sweapt forward wings and a twin fuselage for gunners. It is not (as it is sometimes claimed to be) a flying wing.
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perfect as always! ;)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/1ulegz6xv3/1280px-_Belyayev_DB-_LK.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
You turn now james!
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You may need to squint although this should be easy.
(https://s1.postimg.cc/5l35m2kesf/New_Idea_2.png)
Cheers!
James
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tri-engined with star-wars cockpit ... insurance is Italian :P
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Go on........ ;)
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I had a good time looking for versions of cant Z1007 with a cockpit similar to Breda ba65. :( ::( ::(
As I did not find it, look for some nigth bomber due to the curious paint scheme. :-|
there I discovered the dirty trick! o_O :o :P
(https://s1.postimg.cc/8b7sh7xban/cant_Z_1007_Alciones.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Am I wrong assuming that the quest picture was taken from the game? (jagged contour lines, yellow tip of prop, different shape of exhaust pipe) Anyway, a really dirty trick :)
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I try to keep things interesting :D
Sniperton, you would be right in saying that. It was a screenshot I took many months ago thinking I would use it sooner. I realized that if I were to discolor, flip and crop the image, it is difficult to see what kind of plane it is.
Loco, your turn!
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lol, that was a great one! ]laughing4] ]clown[ ]hello2[ ]notworthy[ ]evil6[ ]thefinger[
Cheers James! ]cheers[
]wav[ ]iamwithstupid[
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it was very good James! ;D
let's see with this ...
Guess thiss!
(https://s1.postimg.cc/9br78i2mrj/guess1027.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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Looks like a Mossie washed a little too hot.
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De Havilland Lobster
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LOL ;D
Not british!
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I think it’s Czech.
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partial point to james... ;)
Engines are czech... :-X
Not the plane.
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(https://s1.postimg.cc/5yanzynagf/guess1028a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/1bp0z9oqsr/)
Here I post some images without color retouching.
in the bottom right is in combat, with the characteristic color scheme of the attack bombers from the country.
Cheers!
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Look's Italian !!
Benno
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Czech engines: point for James. :)
Italian plane: point for Benno. :)
we have a tie. :-|
Will there be a tiebreaker or another that risks the name? o_O
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Well - since everybody seem hesitant.
It ought to be: Savoia Marchetti SM.86
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Perfect LameHawk! ;D
you turn now!
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OK - what's this?
(https://s1.postimg.cc/5nrykn1ysf/SASQuiz29.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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TØ hØ
a Short ??
Benno
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look like an early X planes gilder test bed of swept wing... :-[
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Experimental - yes
Glider - close, but not right
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The closest I can get is the Cornelius XFG-1 ... but I know it's not because it has a forward swept wing ... ::( ::( ::( ::(
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You are right - that's not the one :-|
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Benno may have been right, it seems to be some early version of the Short SB.4 Sherpa with aero-isoclinic wings.
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You hit the nail right on the head, Sniperton
That is exactly what it is (interesting wingtips) - your turn
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Thanks, but Postimage doesn't allow me upload any picture as of now.
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sooooooooo........Free Round?
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Sooo, free round!
Come on, James, we're eagerly awaiting your next nasty quest!
Planes never flown and/or pictured from a viewpoint never seen before. :D
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I see..................nasty huh?
Try this one on for size:
*insert evil laugh here
(https://s1.postimg.cc/12zul3y6hb/Hahaha.png)
Sincerely,
Evil Genius
James
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Looks like a biplane with the upper deck shot away.
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I forgot to mention incredibly low quality images where a Jumbo appears just like a Sopwith Camel, or vice versa. I'm glad to see that you did not forget about this option 8)
I'd say it's a hitherto unknown Polikarpov design, based on the DI-1, whose picture was recently discovered in a special 1934 issue of the Novorossiysk regional edition of the Pravda.
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Looks like a biplane with the upper deck shot away.
DEAD :))
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My guess is it is Italian. Piaggio P.2
I will wait for confirmation this time. :)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/14v3l9tean/Piaggio_P_2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hey Z...........
Can I talk to you for a sec?
How, just how?
Your turn.
James
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Z made a mistake.
That's not the plane James showed us. It's way too crisp.
This comes much closer:
(https://s1.postimg.cc/3wpus8n8an/21_Piaggio_P2_1.jpg)
]clown[ ]bootyshake[ ]thefinger[ ]iamwithstupid[
Best regards - Mike
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Still too much detail, Mike. ]protest[
(https://s1.postimg.cc/1doz34rt8v/21_Piaggio_P2_b.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I'm not that much of an asshole..................Or am I?
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(https://i.imgur.com/xBpOelC.jpg)
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The little evil black box with X is popping up keeping me from posting or viewing pictures on this site.
James
I found plane in my copy of "The Complete Book of Fighters" by William Green & Gordon Swanborough. I got lucky
flipping through the pages to find the 3 view. Googled name and found your picture. Just a matter of the Blind Squirrel
finding a nut.
As, for the other thing. Don't know you that well to comment. :-X
Z
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Max,
Did you just duplicate another intake and stick it on next to it?
The angle suggests that the second engine would be to the left of the centerline, higher than the other engine and well in front of the first engine.
Here is the original picture:
(https://s1.postimg.cc/848egvsilr/maxresdefault.jpg)
Plus, It was Zflyer's turn.....not yours
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I'm not that much of an asshole..................Or am I?
No, you aren't, you're an Evil Genius who drives us mad and makes us laugh to death.
Bravo, bravo, continuez!
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photoshop ... I was wondering how would put the covers in between of those engines... :P
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When Zflyer returns, it will be his turn.
If you want me to go again please consult Zflyer as it is still his active turn. I will not take his turn away unless he allows me to.
So for reasons of fairness I will not post a new quest until he does.
Sincerely,
James
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It's fair game. Got nothin' . So, be my guest.
I think I saw somewhere there was a drawing showing twin engines to counteract the instability
of this plane. But, then again I am old.
Z
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Z, you are thinking of the twin pulse jet version.
If you insist that I go then alright.
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Piaggio P.2, what a beautiful little kite! Very advanced for it's time too, but a victim of monoplanephobia I wager.
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Finally! Postimage works!
(https://s1.postimg.cc/7qobkw6h1b/gtrtr.jpg)
Good luck!
James
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At first glance, this is a typical late WW2 german design.
The specific features unknown to other countries aerodynamics engineers give it away: The forward swept main gear struts resemlbe a Ju 287 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_287) wing layout, and the opposite swept back tail gear strut pretty much reminds me of the Messerschmitt P.1101 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_P.1101) wings - look at that extreme sweep angle! 8)
Furthermore, you can see how elements of the Horten 229 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229) went into this plane, in particular the partial usage of stealth material, seen here at the main fuselage (barely visible) and the vertical tail, where the structure clearly shows that radar-undetectable material was used to build their surface.
Now that it's clearly a far advanced german WW2 design, apparently captured by the U.S. for further development, and taking into account that we're in 2017 already, it's pretty obvious that this is an F-35.
Best regards - Mike
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Stalled?
Well, as long as I don't have to name the boyfriend of the pilot's daughter... let me say this obviously is a Piper PA-18 Super Cub.
Best regards - Mike
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Unfortunately Mike, You are incorrect. This is not a PA-18 nor is it any sort of Piper.
It is something completely different.
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Yeah, congratulations.
You might not have noticed this yet, but the idea of this quest is to visually identify planes.
There are just too many Cub, Cub Special, Super Cub and what-not clones to list, it would break the 50k char limit.
Didn't know? So you know now.
Now that we're here to visually identify it, let me say that this clearly resembles the Super Cub design. I would give in that it could be a re-engined Cub Special.
Now that it's visually a Cub, I call it a Cub because if a bird walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck.
Otherwise, you could as well have posted a blurred image of a 1980 rebuilt Stearman by hell-knows-who and ask for the shoe size of the manufacturer's daughter.
Best regards - Mike
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.............so it's not an F35 then Mike........
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Now that it's visually a Cub, I call it a Cub because if a bird walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck.
Let's come over to the dark side of art history.
If I show you a photo as attached below, you'll be able to identify it as one of the most famous early-Flemish paintings from the 15th century by Rogier van der Weyden in the Prado, Madrid.
You'll be both right and not in your identification. The picture I show here is actually not the original, but a 16th century copy made by another Flemish painter, Michiel Coxcie. Moreover, two such copies by Coxcie have been preserved, one in the Prado, and another one in the Bode-Museum in Berlin. This is the Berlin version.
The only hint on the photo that it's not the original (or the other copy) is the picture frame, which is different. Without the picture frame no man on earth would be able to tell from the photo that it's not the original painting by Rogier. It walks like a Rogier and swims like a Rogier and quacks like a Rogier. Without a hint, it's justified to call him a Rogier. ]iamwithstupid[
(https://s1.postimg.cc/55zwt7tpjj/Coxcie.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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There is a hint on James picture that it's not necessarily an original, untouched, fresh-from-factore Piper Super Cub, that's the wing struts (should be V-shaped on a Cub) and the tailplane (horizontal stab is a tad too high and up front here).
But as I said, there's hundreds if not thousands of these more or less slightly mods on rebuilt, modernized, revamped, spoiled, call it what you want - Cubs!
And all in all, taking James' history into account, this might as well just be a scale plane where the maker didn't even notice his mistake.
But it's a Cub, no matter what the one who nailed it together likes to call it.
Or an F-35 - I must admit, that's the second possible solution.
Best regards - Mike
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Sh.t. 1940 Porterfield CP-65 Collegiate N27207.
"Though roughly in the same general class with the tandem-seat Piper Cub, Aeronca Champ, and Interstate Cadet -- and the side-by-side seating Aeronca Chief, Taylorcraft BC-12D and Luscombe 8 -- the tandem-seat Porterfield is visually distinguishable from them by its twin parallel wing struts on each side (compared to the V-shaped struts on the other planes), and by its largely symmetrical airfoil wing (similar curvature top and bottom)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porterfield_Collegiate
This is exactly as much a difference as the frame on the photo in my above post. It's a copy of the CUB. Same engine. Everything is the same. ]banghead[
P.S.: "Der Teufel soll den Kerl buserieren."
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Nice Job you guys!
You caught me. Sniperton, I pass the baton to you.
Your turn!
James
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It is something completely different.
You were a bit overdoing it, weren't you?
Interiorize it please by writing down 100 times "I won't try to mislead my f.cking crazy mates".
Or I'll follow the advice of my wife who suggested that I should continue with paintings as it seems we've already have had all conceivable aircraft designs.
I expect any winner to tell us about what the heck is it. Gimmie stories and background instead of purely naming "it's XwZbdSh3B4"
(https://s1.postimg.cc/5yazzlqfv3/quest1102.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Westland Wendover? An experimental version of the Lysander with a rotating rear turret.
I believe the thing crashed in trials when the turret fell off. Gunner survived with only superficial injuries and probably required a change of underwear.
(https://s1.postimg.cc/1pkb9fcdsv/Westland-_P12-_Wendover-4-s.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Though test pilots reported surprisingly good handling compared to the 'Lizzie' in it's normal manifestation, the Wendover never went beyond the prototype I believe.
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Gunners ... probably required a change of underwear.
Go on, this is what we need. The stories beyond the numbers.
On the other hand, the Wendover is one of the ugliest designs (at least for me). Why did Westland's engineers produce such an oddity?
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It was proposed for anti-invasion and ground strafing roles; I don't give much odds for the survival of the crew if it was used operationally, though it was an excellent craft for it's original purpose.
Reduced threat of invasion curtailed it's further development I suppose, though it might of been a useful anti-insurgency tool later on methinks.
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Thanks, I forgot to mention what is obvious, that you have the baton :)
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Thanks, I'll have to pass it on for the moment.
I was looking to scan some pictures of bits of aircraft for identification taken by my wife's father when he was in Air Despatch in Aden and other places, but I can't find the damned album!
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Well in that case, I take the baton ]clown[
Guess this, it's non-fictional, clearly identifyable, un-edited pic (not even flipped sides) and has really flown as depicted:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/65m4zop1x/quest_2017-11-08.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Very strange. Looks like a scaled-down, but fattier AW Ensign with the fixed gear of a Short Scylla. Very well done Mike, I have not a faintest idea. 8)
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Bristol Bombay?
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It’s either the Fokker F.XXII or the Fokker F.XXXVI. They were both used by the RAF and were similar in design but one was bigger so I am covering both bases.
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Fokker 36 is correct James (and Fokker 22 would have been accepted too, due to the virtually impossible discriminability on pictures like these).
Your turn 8)
Cheers ]cheers[
Mike
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You may need to squint and I'm not sorry...........Sorry
(https://s7.postimg.cc/adookjet7/hrtry.jpg)
Good Luck!
James
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An-2, though why it had that cockpit there I have no idea
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You are on the right track but I cannot give it to you because this plane has a specific designation different to An-2.
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this plane has a specific designation
I'm wondering which one you will come up with because the designation of this plane is all but specific.
It has at least three of them, depending on which source you quote.
Best regards - Mike
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Here's the story in French:
http://www.avionslegendaires.net/avion-militaire/antonov-an-6-meteo/
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I’ll give it to sniperton. The answer I was looking for was either An-3 or An-4 but both work I suppose. I was not aware that An-6 was correct as well.
The second cockpit was occupied by an atmospheric observer so he could get an uninterupted view.
James
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An-3
An-3? This is an An-3:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/oz11u1azd/MCh_S_Rossii_Antonov_An-3_T_Ryabtsev.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/d9x262k0l/)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-3
The third designation I know of for the An-4/An-6 is An-2 ZA.
Best regards - Mike
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Mike you are correct. However, the win still goes to sniperton because I say so.
Cheers!
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Sure, didn't want to snap the baton, just trying to put thing straight about anoushka.
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No gents, I cannot take it.
The crucial step was made by mexchiwa who correctly identified the tail as belonging to an An-2.
James didn't accept this as a solution due to the strange Russian habit of designating sub-types as if they were types.
Mike hinted at the three possible designations such planes may have had. He did not name the plane, but certainly identified it correctly.
I did not name the plane either, I only linked an article which summed up all the info already provided by mexchiwa and Mike.
Internet search is not a big deal when you already know what to look for (i.e. the An-2 branch).
Whatever James says, I offer the baton to mexchiwa.
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This one is from another site (if linking to other sites isn't allowed please delete this post and have an open house)
https://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=256569&d=1508942217
They still haven't gotten it...
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Curtiss H-75N anyone?
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Or maybe Mitsubishi Ki-15 ?
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Nope and nope
Here's the original thread - 8 pages in and no one has it (and I have no idea, either)
https://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?143648-Please-identify-this-plane
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Okay... GeeBee was my second guess. I hardly know all the Granville Brothers models but there is still something wrong with the wheels, so...I just hope it's not just an aircraft in disguise for some kind of movie :D
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Waste of time.
It's not even certain that this is a real photo at all.
Could as well just be a fake.
Or a model.
Or a mockup.
Not even the origin (Spain? lol!) seems right.
Looks like a wooden mix between Northrop Gamma and Ki-15. Probably it's just that.
Best regards - Mike
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I don't even see why it could not be a Curtiss H-75N as you suggested.
The gear cowling has a bit different shape, but the rest is pretty close (as much as it's visible at all).
I guess we're again at the Piper problem with the many similar clones.
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Argentinian H-75O?
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Not a Curtiss, or a Northrop, or a GeeBee...
I think this is interesting because no one knows what it is...
Don't think it's a fake, either
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Not a Curtiss, or a Northrop
How would you know?
It can very well be a Curtiss or a Northrop.
Your statement has no substance.
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Fine, let's try it again.
Is there anything visible on the picture which clearly identifies it as an airplane different from any of the suggested ones?
You know, if it"walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck...."
James, where are you? ]wav[
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Unfortunately Mex is correct. This isn’t as easy as it seems. He is correct in saying that it is not a Curtiss.
The aircraft pictured is one of the two Military Aircraft HM-1’s. Much is known of the first one which was a direct modification of the then Hawks Miller HM-1 racing plane known as “Time Flies”. After the first aircraft crashed during flight testing, another was built, this time with fixed landing gear. This is the aircraft in question. It is often reported that only one was built.
The aircraft pictured here is the first aircraft with retactable gear.
The photos that Mex have are the only ones known to exist of the second prototype.
(https://s7.postimg.cc/ol8wg2oej/465_F4_AE5-_B073-443_F-91_F7-9_B49462844_E9.jpg)
James
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Congrats :D
But I want to learn. How can you tell it from this picture that it's the same plane and not, say, the H75-N?
The shape of the cockpit is blurred and its offset position towards the tail is hardly perceptible due to the shortening and the practically indiscernible tail section.
(https://s7.postimg.cc/rcwrkcca3/99699239_69453475.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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In that picture you can tell it is not the H75 because the cockpit shown there is set much farther back from the front of the wing. The H-75N had the same fuselage and wing as a regular Hawk 75 but was provided with fixed gear as it was an export variant.
See this picture here:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/einqnrcyd/RTAF-027-001.jpg)
Notice that this picture is taken from almost the same angle as the picture you have there. Notice that the landing gear are different in shape and width than your photo. Look at the wing and you will see that both the wing and cowl are completely different from the mystery plane. Notice that in the picture you have, the landing gear legs have little fairings that jut out from the front of the wing. These are not present on this picture of an H-75N. Finally, compare the canopy shape between the photos. On the picture above the canopy is taller and more structured than on your photo.
This evidence suggests that the aircraft in question is not a H-75N
James
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Thanks a lot, James, makes sense, now I see why it cannot be a H75.
I just wonder, and forgive me for my curiosity, how do you know that IF it's not a H75, it must be HM-1?
Do you come to that conclusion by excluding all other possibilities (in this case you have to know and to take into consideration all possible candidates), or is your identification based on a flash like "hey, man, it's a HM-1, it's definetely that plane"?
Just asking because I'm editing a study on connoisseurship in art and I'd like to learn how it works for other people well versed in something.
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To tell you the truth I’m not actually sure how it works myself. You see, I’ve been interested in airplanes since I was very small. I own lots of literature on aircraft from my many years of trying to learn more and continually buying more and more books. So when I see an aircraft, my mind goes through a process that takes the many aircraft that I know by heart and puts them into groups that are like each other if that makes sense. Then I choose the most viable option for whatever the situation is.
I hope this helps. If you want to ask more questions like this feel free to PM me or send me an e-mail. I would love to help you in whatever it is you are working on.
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Back to the topic at hand however.
This pretty yellow bird is the next thing that I will attempt to torture you with. (I will)
(https://s8.postimg.cc/9cqdi2cnp/6_F1_F6_FEB-605_B-4_BEB-_A215-_E679_CEFD1_B5_D.jpg)
Enjoy,
James
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This pretty yellow bird is the next thing that I will attempt to torture you with.
...but it's not your turn yet and maybe it will never become anymore. You can't be sure ;)
In that picture you can tell it is not the H75
It shows that it's not the H-75N commonly known.
It does not tell that it's not a spanish or who-the-fuck-else's derived version of it.
As much as it doesn't tell the same thing about being another custom version of the of-so-many different Gamma's we know.
And as much as it doesn't tell that it's not another 5-second-brainfart from the Japs derived from the Ki-15.
The aircraft pictured is one of the two Military Aircraft HM-1’s.
Apart from the obvious difference (retractable gear), the plane you show has a completely different tail (higher horizontal stabs for instance and no tail wheel), no spinner hub, no z-shaped pitot tube, no landing light in the left wing, and apparently no flaps.
(https://s18.postimg.cc/qnjhum61l/Another_headache-1.jpg)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/rd2a6zeax/Miller_MAC-1_NX-2491.jpg)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/8kqf3epmh/Miller_MAC-1_NX-2491-1.jpg)
After the first aircraft crashed during flight testing, another was built, this time with fixed landing gear.
Please quote your sources.
Wiki says (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Aircraft_HM-1):
On August 23, 1938, Ortman flew above Rentschler Field (...) the stresses placed on the wings were too great and a wing sheared off. Ortman was able to bail out safely, but the aircraft was demolished and the project was abandoned.
That'd be no second plane, no fixed gear version.
And even if there was any, where's the evidence that it looks like the plane we search for?
No sorry James, this is as much a fixed-gear-version of the HM-1 (which is yet to be shown that it even exists) as it can be another Curtiss, Kawasaki or Lockheed.
He is correct in saying that it is not a Curtiss.
Mind you that Curtiss built other planes beside the H-75N. This statement "it is not a Curtiss" is just all bullshit. Can't stress that enough. You have nothing to backup such stance.
Best regards - Mike
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You seem to be rather on edge about something and you also seem to be getting unnecessarily upset about this. There was no need for harsh language at all during this quest update. I’m not sure why you are so pissed off by my interpretation of a blurry picture but as your friend I really think you should take a couple steps back and reevaluate what you were trying to get across because all I noticed about your entry was the obviously distressed tone you wrote it in.
Just my thoughts,
James
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When I say "it's a Curtiss <xyz>", someone gets back to me with "it's not a Curtiss", then I say "maybe not <xyz>, but how can you say it's not any other?" and the same guy comes back with "it's not a Curtiss" with no sources to backup that stance... yes, when that happens, I'm talking straight.
Deal with it :P
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Ok, we'll put my mystery bird on hold, and I'll take on p51's glider. LNE-1? (Going by the rudder)
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I have to admit that I'm not convinced yet about the HM-1. The shape of the wing root and canopy seem different, and the paint job looks more like a racer than a military prototype to me :-|
We would definitely need photographic evidence (or maybe a look on the serial number) ;)
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f35
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I fully agree with Gatrasz. And to add another possible detail (beyond those that Mike observed in ##), the vertical stabilizer of the HM-1 is nearly symmetric in shape, the leading edge has almost the same strong curvature as the rearward rudder part. Very little from the tail section is seen on the blurry quest image, but the leading edge of the vertical stabilizer, seen distorted by perspective, doesn't seem to have the same strong curvature.
I admit that the position of the canopy fits the HM-1 best, but as Mike rightly brought up, here we may have to deal with an unknown modification of a plane X, where the quest plane does not completely match any candidate for X.
James argues that it must have been derived from the HM-1, while Mike, Gatrasz and myself argue that it may have been derived from another type as well.
James made a hypothesis, which is the best so far, but not convincing enough to regard this quest as fully resolved IMHO.
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f35
God dammit, it's been right in our face all the time.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious Ricky!
not convincing enough to regard this quest as fully resolved IMHO.
Now it is 8)
Cheers ]cheers[
Mike
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While I made a pretty bold claim to know what it is. I am also finding discrepancies in my own conclusion. So please disregard my quest idea as this doesnt seem to be finished and even I think I have the wrong plane. I am sorry if I caused some greif here. Oh and btw Mex, thats it!
James
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No grief I guess, just a bit of boldness when formulating one's ideas ;)
Anyway, are we stuck? Can anyone fancy the serial number? And maybe the paint as Gatrasz suggested can lead to another canditate?
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I’m not sure. We seem to be at an impass. But I think it may be a Bellanca 28-70 or some variation of it.
Thoughts?
James
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We've failed so far, but I find it more freightening that Mike's avatar is blinking. Seriously. Mike, ist alles in Ordnung?
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You're right, that is rather creepy.
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I think Ricky nailed it 8)
Mike's avatar is blinking.
Sounds like you're staring at images for too long :P
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Mike ,
How do you switch it off?
If I look at it to long I may go into a FIT!
cheers edc1 (stan)
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Avatar - Merriam Webster (https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/avatar):
a visible representation of something abstract
Now that I can be both positive and negative, the avatar just fits 8)
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You taught me a lesson, and I changed my avatar. Now it fits the definition. ]headbang[
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This mysterious plane has been at last identified by Jean Masse, a learned writer and researcher on the subject of SCW planes. This is a Lookheed Sirius - more specifically a the Republican Lookheed Sirius, serial number 149, an ex-Mexxican machine (X-BADA "Anahuac") bought in 1937. Another Sirius was present in Spain, an ex- Cuban machine ("4 de septiembre") serial number 146
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Nope. The Lockheed Sirius was quite different in many respects. Show me one with 3-blade prop. Still the best hypothesis is that of James.
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We may not have a clue, but...this thread is introducing me to a world of wonderful 1930's airplanes ! I did not suspect how rich this era was in aircraft types, but I understand a little better how all they all converged to WWII's state of the art. Fascinating ! 8)
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I’ve been looking at the Northrop Gamma and this aircraft appears to be a Gamma with a bigger engine and different fixed gear.
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I Think we've stalled out, so I'll offer an open house...
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I recently emailed a friend that works as the head processor for the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum’s research library. I sent him the picture of this aircraft and he responded after a week. He has determined that this aircraft is in all likelyhood an indiginous modification of a Seversky SEV-2XP.
Sincerely,
James
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James, your first hypothesis, while not fully convincing, was still the best so far. It's undeniable that the canopy on the quest picture is made of one piece and is positioned extremely rearward. I don't see this feature on any of the other candidates. Another characteristic feature is the fixed undercarriage somewhat protruding with a bulge from the wing. Sorry, my English is too poor to describe these details.
Anyway, as mexchiva suggested, let's have another quest picture until this bastard is properly sorted out. ;D
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It probably will never be sorted out......
In the meantime though, we have this:
The ugliest thing ever built
(https://s7.postimg.cc/onwi1rw5n/90_BACC3_A-695_A-4169-9_E44-8402838_F6374.jpg)
James
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The ugliest thing ever built
I guess this could be mildly offending to SAS~Epervier (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?action=profile;u=842) ;)
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Mike! ):(
It’s true though.
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Perhaps Epervier has taken his name from this plane. Maybe Epervier has an affinity for ugly planes :P (and P51 is right: it is ugly). When writing this, there is a lovely picture of a Hunter at the top of the page. That's a beautiful aircraft.
In the twenties and thirties the French made som particularly ugly aircraft:
How about Farman Jabiru og Arsenal-Delanne 10?
But they really got their act together in the fifties though - in general. Because this is Morane-Saulnier MS-1500 Epervier
Just two built - so hardly a success
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About ugly planes, I've seen worse. But I have to say that I have a special interest in ugly planes (or said so) ; nothing to do with the fact of being French anyway, I swear :D
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The Arsenal-Delanne 10 is one my favourites. :D
Anyway, the ugliness of this other Epervier was probably compensated by excellent visibility from the cockpit once you jumped in and forgot why ground crew covered their eyes.
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Lame, you are right again. It isn't that hard to find this plane though. Just look up "ugly" in the dictionary and this aircraft is pictured along with the words "Ugly enough to be slapped by its own mother"
Lame,
Your turn 8)
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A modern type - anybody seen this before?
(https://s7.postimg.cc/3k1y9hxrv/SASQuiz30.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jianzmrzr/)
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It looks like a Piaggio had a one nights stand with a blimp.
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this is the more close than i can find... ::(
any hints? o_O
(https://s33.postimg.cc/jcrf8islr/liliu.jpg.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/80etqqjwr/)
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http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/11571/unmasking-the-bullet-shaped-mystery-aircraft-after-it-reemerges-at-victorville
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So it’s the Celera 500L.
Give it to sniperton. He found the correct article and description.
James
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Variable pitch prop blades!
I'll have to see this contraption airborne some day!
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It has a configuration similar to the LH-10 Ellipse and the size of a Cobalt's Valkyrie, but without that article I think it's impossible to identify this rare bird. It was fully by chance that I stumbled upon it. I was more lucky than informed, and I must say it was a nasty quest again. Open round.
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Here, try this:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/6p1zf1i6d/023_BABD6-8_A52-4_A71-899_F-254_FF6_E57_F81.jpg)
James
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BTW that study aircraft on locopiston's photo looks quite interesting. What's that, if I may ask?
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Mudry CAP 10B ;)
(https://s7.postimg.cc/g776vpy3v/Avions_Mudry_et_CIE_CAP_10_B_N9910_B_sn_267_John_Shupek_photo_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5x4rwh887/)
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Mudry CAP
woot?
(https://s8.postimg.cc/fbaawg2z9/torn-dirty-cap-found-in-forest-_F0_G49_X.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x1bzhhgk1/)
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That's what my cap usually looks like after Moose hunting. :D :D ;D
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You're up Edlor. It was actually a 20B but you got it anyway.
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Thanks P51vsFw190 :)
Try this one.
(https://s7.postimg.cc/v8e2qy3p7/Quest.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Mudry CAP
woot?
-witty image here-
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/8f70f1f7542e39e5a528f3ed792fb536/tenor.gif)
DED
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I think that plane is a Gruman Avenger put to a strict diet. :o
Sniperon: the plane that you are asking is lilium jet. the first electic VTOL to fly.
https://youtu.be/ohig71bwRUE
It reminds me of the ships of the series of the 80's "V visitors"
(https://s33.postimg.cc/jauz1vren/Skyfighter2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP19ZrMW0AACa2I.jpg)
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A little search (USAAC BT) took med to the Fleetwings BT-12 Sophomore
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You got it LameHawk. ;D
Your go.
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This is probably not too difficult.
(https://s7.postimg.cc/quofhdj0b/SASQuiz31.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xxwawzofr/)
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Yermolayev Yer-2
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This one brings up a lot of discussions about Howard Hughs and the Spruce Goose.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/e7mjfvtan/image.png) (https://postimages.org/)
HINT: Privately funded. It hasn't flown yet - and is in the testing stages out in Lancaster, California, USA.
Photo: anitek
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Right you are, P51 - over to you - again ;)
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Thanks so much LameHawk.
This one should also be pretty easy:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/ahmth3gxn/988780_F6-512_B-4_EBE-_AA9_B-3156535_DD216.jpg)
James
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Twin version of the F-35?
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Twin version of the F-35?
Dang it Mike! You beat me to it!
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Your pussy scares me Rick
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Your pussy scares me Rick
I was about to post what's on my mind when I read that sentence, but we're not in the adult section 8)
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'Pussy' is not a rude word in England.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL9KqigbdJw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL9KqigbdJw)
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Any guesses other than F-35?
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to P51vsFw190
that's a Douglas B-7..and yeah I had to do some research. That gull wing threw me off the track.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/wveeex8qn/image.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/j1q1pvg57/)
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Very good anitek!
Your turn dude.
James
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to: P51vsFw190 - I found some good ones while looking up yours..but
this one is being built out here in California - a little recursive as I posted this on the previous page.
(https://s2.postimg.cc/6x193m5c9/image.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Scaled Composites Model 351 "Roc"
It was built for Stratolaunch Systems to provide a platform from which air launch space missions can be staged.
It has a wingspan of 385 feet which is the longest wingspan of any airplane to date.
James
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to P51vsFw190
That's her.
This one is going to really get some attention when it finally heads down the runway.
They can't just write one off like they do other aircraft in the testing stage.
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Try this one on for size:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/yqkk6prkr/Mysterious.png) (https://postimages.org/)
James
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I started with the O-52 owl that quickly took me to the Howard DGA-15 ... 8)
But knowing who is coming from, it can not be that easy. ;)
There must be an odd name, it was made by a hamburger factory, or something like that. ::( o_O
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You're on to something.
There is another name for it and I'm looking for that specific designation.
James
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GH-2 Nightingale
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You’re so close but I will give it to you. It was actually the NH-1 Navy version.
Your turn.
James
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According to what I found the GH-3 and NH-1 have fairings on the wheels and propeller cone. :o
because that, was say GH-2. :-[
impossible to see the double command in that image... ;)
tanks james! ;D
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Now!
Guess this! :D
(https://s33.postimg.cc/3wsltwfdr/guess1101.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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Rutan Model 35 or the NASA AD-1 oblique wing aircraft.
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Obviously, the re-framing and countermeasures of photoshop were very ineffective. ::(
It costs less to be guessed than done! :o
well done (and fast) James! ;)
you turn now!
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This should be quick
(https://s33.postimg.cc/nhbqag07z/54_B877_D8-1113-4225-8_FE2-_E88220_C7_A173.jpg)
James
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Not a F-16 !
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Mitsubishi F-2?
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Kilo, your turn.
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Don't have anything on hand right now so, open round!
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somebody says open round?
ghess thiss then :P
(https://s33.postimg.cc/aq6qv6kkf/guess512.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Fisher XP-75 Eagle
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exact! james! ;D
you turn again!
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Try this:
(https://s2.postimg.cc/4hkm47peh/6_BEBF4_C9-_A51_D-4_D78-_B6_B5-14_D816945_C04.jpg)
James
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re-motorized Me 208? :-|
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It's a Lufthansa SAAB 91 Safir.
Considering the company in the background the photo must be from an air show
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NICE CATCH THERE LAME!
You’re up
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Thank you.
You won't get more than this:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/3z7cjoo97/SASQuiz32.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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What happens when a tsunami passes by
(https://s7.postimg.cc/8mdel4j8b/610x.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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You won't get more than this:
Martin TB-26G-25-MA Marauder S/N 44-68221 rebuilt to single XB-26H prototype ("Middle River Stump Jumper"), a testbed for the landing gear proposed for the Boeing XB-47 Stratojet and Martin XB-48 bombers. Flight tests were carried out in May/June of 1945 at the Martin field.
Cheers!
Mike
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A well deserved cigar to you, big brother!
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Holy crap. How do you guys do that?
I just wanted to mention that I love this topic. I can't get a one of these myself without Google or Cortana cheats, but it makes a great spectator sport.
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It’s so much fun and it gives me a reason to be competitive.
James
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Oh, no aircraft to guess?
Sure it is, just not shown from outside (because that would really be too easy in this case).
We've all flown it in IL-2 already. Which plane are we sitting in?
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/4572/27109978949_7389ca63fc_o.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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Grumman F4F?
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Correct, your turn James!
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Really!!!? That was a total guess. A literal shot in the dark.
Ok. Try this:
(https://s2.postimg.cc/rezkoh9dl/0_A7_A333_A-62_F9-4368-_B47_D-6_E3037990_AFE.jpg)
James
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It's a SCAN 20. Here's a very detailed account of its story with many photos, basically the only detailed info on this plane on the web.
http://avions-de-la-guerre-d-algerie.over-blog.com/article-l-hydravion-scan-20-104444016.html
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That is correct Sniperton. It’s a shame that there isnt much more info on it. It is a rather attractive aircraft.
James
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Let's have something fairly similar. Sorry for the low quality image, I couldn't find any better one:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/ikbwnvpk5/quest1207.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Breguet Br.790 Nautilus-Seaplane
(https://s7.postimg.cc/f4sxcmvhn/image.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Bingo, your turn.
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Thanks sniperton :)
Here's another seaplane for ya's. ;)
(https://s7.postimg.cc/njvzgnr6z/Quest.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Canadian Vickers Vancouver, produced only in very small numbers. A plane much smaller than you'd think:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/wooeqsqin/5-3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Very interesting. Can’t wait to get the next one. I have something special waiting in the wings. I think it just might stump some people.
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That was quick :D
Your go sniperton and I'm interested to see what you have in store for us James. ;D
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Let James play the lion too. ]hello2[
(Open round for James to drive us mad again)
;D
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ALRIGHTY THEN!
Try this:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/enue3y7jv/856_AE3_EB-23_E3-455_C-_B347-7_F9086_E0_F1_E1.jpg)
You've fallen into my knowledge trap. Best of luck getting out. You will be there FOREVER! (Insert evil laugh of your choosing here)
James
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Same origin like
(https://s7.postimg.cc/v8e2qy3p7/Quest.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
me thinks.
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Mike, Would you fly that cute little thing I posted?
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I would fly anything but a hot air balloon ]clown[
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Seems reasonable.
I will give another picture to aid in identity. It's not by any standards a better picture, but it is a different view. ;)
(https://s7.postimg.cc/5vmm87jbf/image.jpg)
James
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I would fly anything but a hot air balloon ]clown[
Would you fly it if you were replaced by a 250 kg bomb?
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If I were replaced by a 250kg bomb, the bomb would have to fly it 8)
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I mean if you both were flying it transformed into a hot air balloon :P
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So besides Mike, does anyone think they know what this is?
I’ll give you a hint. It’s family tree began with this cutie right here:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/pzyb7lrol/AA6_B70_FD-13_B4-41_AC-9_FE8-_B45_C0_ECD14_FA.jpg)
James
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I do think so, but I owe my knowledge to Mike's (not so hidden) reference. Hence our discussion what if Mike were replaced by a bomb in the cockpit.
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Could someone (Sniperton) answer this quest. I don't want it to die.
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I didn't find much about this, was it built in series ? It looks more like a testbed or something...
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Gatrasz,
It was built as an expendable flying bomb to be controlled from a mother plane.
While it may share a superficial resemblance to the Ercoupe, that is all the two planes have in common.
James
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Unless you can guess the US manufacturer, it's very difficult to find this prototype AC, even if you look for flying bombs, target drones, or manned aerial targets. Mike gave an important hint, even more important than those by James.
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Oh - the Kettering Bug ;D
(https://s7.postimg.cc/q433r6yij/kettering-bug-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Lame,
I posted the Kettering Bug as a hint to the original quest.
The original plane is this:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/ra73q57ff/C7_AA3500-_C6_D6-4_CF4-_AE8_D-3_C1859710748.jpg)
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Kaiser-Fleetwings YPQ-12A
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleetwings_PQ-12
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Excellent job Loco!!!!!!!
Your turn my man!
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tanks! ;D
guess this business fighter!
(https://s7.postimg.cc/4m9z7ozez/guess1012.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Shot in the dark here - does this have anything to do with the L-29 design?
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Theoretically it is on the other side of the wall, a few years before ...
But looking for better information, I think I fall in a hoax. o_O :o ;D :-[
the base plane is this (with more than one ascertainable photo):
(https://s7.postimg.cc/5wcujn20r/guess-1012a.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
something smaller and innocent than the L-29
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After doing some research, I found that the first picture is just an elaborate but well done photoshop. Your second picture is more accurate to the quest.
James
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The cabin/engine arrangement of that photoshop job would be problematical. I'll keep the guesses coming - is this from a NATO country?
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Yes is from NATO country.
Is from a country that originally belonged, then left in 1966 and returned in 2009.
;D
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I just want to say how awesome it is that this topic has gone on so long with so many interesting aircraft that I'd never heard of!
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It's fairly easy now that the country of origin has been hinted at. It's a light trainer, it's a jet, it's French, and it's seems to be from the 1950s. It's the F-WGVR prototype of the SIPA S.300 shown in 1955 and crashed later that year.
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I have participated in aviation quizzes for some twenty years - and I am still amazed at the number of aircraft I have never seen before
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You are on sniperton! ;D
extra bonus if guess the fake one ;)
you turn now!
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extra bonus if guess the fake one ;)
Reminds me of the Great Oil Sniffer hoax, but I have serious doubts :D
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(https://s8.postimg.cc/dxxgkd2hx/sipa_s-300.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
This is the photo which was photoshopped and published by the creator on DeviantArt as a Sipa S.500 with the remark "Don't believe everything you read and see!!"
Anyway, guess this one (an easy meat for James):
(https://s8.postimg.cc/3nv1lakdx/quest171213.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Bonney Gull
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Let us learn what the heck is it. Come on, James, unleash your knowlege and educational skills ;D
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The Bonney Gull was built by an eccentric that belived the Wrights had gotten everything wrong and that the secret to “True” flight was to emulate the birds as closely as possible. Till his demise Leonard Warden Bonney kept, studied and researched Seagulls with the hope that he would find the “right way to fly”.
In 1928 Bonney used all of his knowledge to create his aircraft. Not surprisingly at the time many of his ideas seemed extremly far fetched but were in fact ahead of their time.
Unable to find a willing test pilot, Bonney himself decided to pilot the contraption.
On May 4th 1928 Bonney took off in the Gull despite objections from his friends and family and attained an altitude of 50 feet before the Gull wobbled, fishtailed and plunged straight down, ejecting him from the plane on impact. He was later taken to the hospital where he died shortly after from his injuries.
James
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I wonder how he dared to jump into the cockpit. A test pilot with thick eyeglases is as unconventional as was his design.
Your turn :)
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Looks like an early version of the Batmobile
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Looks like an early version of the Batmobile
James did not say what happened to the wreckage of the Bonney Gull, so we can easily assume that it was later retrieved by a mysterious 'WayneCorp' :D
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Conspiracies conspiracies..........
Anyway, guess this:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/w3u49s8vf/3_F37_B09_A-3_BFB-469_F-_A1_D6-46_ED02_DE06_B4.jpg)
James
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Dayton-Wright DW(?)-1. At the Ford museum. Way ahead of its time...
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can someone explain me how the propeller did not hit the ground? o_O
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although it's hard to believe, the prop has clearance in horizontal alignment
But very very little.
(http://www.aerofiles.com/daywright-rb1.jpg)
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I'm more eager to know what the pilot could see from his dug-out... ]confused2[
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Mexchiwa,
You are correct. Your turn!
This aircraft is actually the original William Christmas Bullet. The Bullet was a strutless biplane that crashed on it’s first flight after the wings seperated from the fuselage. The pilot was killed and the Army was very angry that Christmas wrecked their expensive Liberty six engine without notifying them. The Bullet was then sold to Dayton-Wright where it was redesigned and turned into the DW-1.
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Try this one: (https://s19.postimg.cc/bytknfkk3/jetx.jpg)
About the relationship between the Christmas Bullet and the Dayton-Wright racer - ? They have nothing in common except using Liberty engines. That was a joke, right?
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This air intake really reminds me the P-80 family (P-80, F-80, T-33 or F-94...)...
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Right country, wrong company. Unlike my previous challenge, I actually know what this one is
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Happy you, I've been always bad in recognizing people by their big toe
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If the pic was any bigger, it'd be obvious immediately what this is...
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Mex,
That wasn't a joke. It's true!
http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/models/aircraft/Christmas-Bullet.html
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Try this one: (https://s19.postimg.cc/bytknfkk3/jetx.jpg)
Martin B-26G-11-MA Marauder S/N 43-34584.
No joke.
The plane ended up as a testbed for the SNECMA ATAR 101 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNECMA_Atar_101) jet engine, registered as F-WBXM.
It first flew in this configuration on October 9, 1950 (other sources date the maiden flight on November 10).
On May 14, 1958 it was re-registered as F-ZVLA.
Cheers!
Mike
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Got it. Did you read the intake cover? It's all yours...
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Yes indeed, the intake cover gave it away ;)
This is the full image of the plane by the way:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/ryydf2wl5/38054844695_6be060d7d3_o.jpg)
Okay, something different, easy to guess but I though it looks odd enough to put up here:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/r85n9thij/4599408406.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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Fooled initially - thought it was a Lancaster. Finding nothing, suspicion crept in. Had to be a Lincoln then. (Strangely enough listening to Kinks: Lincoln County!).
So it must be this one: Avro Lincoln with a Napier Nomad test engine.
(https://s7.postimg.cc/4h160uw23/45263339.Mystery.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Absolutely right Lamehawk, your turn 8)
I'd love to know the performance impact of such an engine installation :)
Cheers!
Mike
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I really ought to have been more clever here as I had this photo lying in waiting for a possible quiz question
(https://s7.postimg.cc/5dkmd6op7/4604610949.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h2om15fnr/)
Anyway - new question is this fairly unknown plane:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/ac84rskt7/SASQuiz33.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Douglas XCG-17 ; an assault glider developped from C-47, successful in testing but not really used because such large gliders weren't needed anymore at the last stages of the war.
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Very good, Gatrasz, your turn :)
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OK. I don't know if this one has been seen already in this thread but I tink it deserved a chance ;)
(https://s13.postimg.cc/3lsm8fiaf/Quizz_2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Finally! The offspring of a Vampire and Meteor.
I shall fly this to the gates of heaven!
James
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I shall fly this to the gates of heaven!
That's fine ; I'll keep the piston engined one for me 8)
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Too much time for this bird... :(
as silver barrel lover i know this plane, because that i did not answer. 8)
i let you a hint...
type in google: french (for gatrasz ;)) twing(is obvious :P) nene (these big silver barrels :o)
this is the piston version.
(https://s10.postimg.cc/6en9rxmpl/guess1070.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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this is the piston version.
Isn't she beautiful ? 8) Hope I didn't break the game with this, but I thought it was time to use our secret power here : great cancelled projects :P
Edit : another 'interesting' view
(https://s10.postimg.cc/lb98foik9/quizzz.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Strange, I believed we already had this, but a search confirmed that we did not. Possibly I've seen it so many times at the Top 11 Cancelled French Aircraft site...
The rear view is more funny, from the front view you wouldn't expect such an "abrupt" ending
(https://s13.postimg.cc/4pste8jp3/bacafleur.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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So, you agree to be the winner ? ;)
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No, I want this thread to appeal to anyone, not just being the playground for us four or five.
Ladies and Gentlemen, this is an aircraft. A rare aircraft. Still there are plenty of hints above and you're invited to identify it. Identifying rare aircraft is a fun, and being Sherlock Holmes is an utmost pleasure. Come on, come on, your nieces and grandsons will be proud of you!
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Understood ! That's the same reason I decided to search for a plane to throw here. Anyway, solving this thread only require good eyes now, so please, gentlemen... !
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SNCAC NC.1070
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That's true ; anyway, NC.1070 is the piston engined first prototype, and NC.1071 the Rolls-Royce Nene powered second prototype. Your turn !
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This one may be difficult but try your best.
(https://s10.postimg.cc/hmbqan5yh/295_FB9_D8-4_DEA-4955-94_EC-9_EE7_E81317_EF.jpg)
James
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Hall(?) / Agawam(?) Cicada Racer from 1931/1932 photographed in Cleveland. Finding this plane is easy, finding out what the heck is it is not.
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Sniperton, you are correct!
This is the Agawam Cicada. It was built by Hall after he left the Granville Brothers of Gee Bee fame. He left to pursue his own ideas one of which became the Hall Bulldog and the other, the Cicada. His planes never attained the success he wanted and in an odd turn of irony almost always lost out to his former employers aircraft. Looks like the Granvilles were right, stick a big engine in a fat tube and hope for the best.
This aircraft was built and flown less than twenty miles from my home. I am now thinking of buliding an R/C version to pay homage to a forgotten designer.
It’s your turn by the way!
James
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I did a P.11 hack for that one...
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Thanks for background info on the plane. I declare it open round
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Nothing hard to guess, but an iconic plane to me and I thought this picture is odd enough to share:
(https://s13.postimg.cc/a3odubr6t/IXv8_HUo.jpg)
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THAT'S DEFINITELY AN F-35! :o
jkjk it's a line of Saab Drakens...
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what does one call that? a jet jam? :D
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THAT'S DEFINITELY AN F-35!
Close.
One more time you crack my joke and I have 10 rounds free at you again ]clown[
it's a line
Nope.
This is a line:
(https://s13.postimg.cc/3so9yhggn/big-line-of-coke_o_620136-e1475072788938.jpg)
Saab Drakens
That's true.
Your turn 8)
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Funny picture anyway (the Saab, of course...).
Is it due to a particular event ?
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Is it due to a particular event ?
Yep, it's liten julafton in sweden.
Cheers!
Mike
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You mean a special Scandinavian Christmas jet parade in eco mode?
I know the Finnish like to take off from, and land on, public highways, maybe the Swedish want to bring it even more close to the people, particularly to children? "Look, Dad, what a lovely Draken, and how many, it's really pointless to always bemoan the high taxes!"
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(https://i.imgur.com/ZLUIBLb.jpg)
w0t
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Cierva C.24?
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ye
EDIT: NO WAIT YOU'RE WRONG, almost correct though, though it is based on that.
EDIT 2: NVM You're right. Though it's the de Havilland C24 variant with the rotor having an engine linkage unlike the original Cierva...
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Isn't that just the same?
The whole Cierva stuff went into de Havilland hands.
It's G-ABLM after all, and that was the single C.24 ever built, whether you call it Cierva or de Havilland ;)
Cheers!
Mike
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(https://i.imgur.com/G1F1ECN.jpg)
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So I take the baton
If so... it's lille jule aften, so this is the not-hard-to-guess plane:
(https://s13.postimg.cc/fb18xknyf/d_02.jpg)
Now that the base type is too easy, it'd be nice to tell what variant it is.
Hint: It's not "(...)-Z".
Best regards - Mike
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That must be a F-86 Sabre from the Danish airforce
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That must be a F-86 Sabre from the Danish airforce
Apparently yes. The icing on the cake would be to know whether it's an A, E, F or whatever else version ;)
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Since Danemark is about same level of ambitions as Norway when it comes to Airforce I guess that would be a easy google search
And it was: If I remember correctly this is a D
(http://www.euro-t-guide.com/See_Photo/Denmark/JUT-N/Aalborg-Forvar-2003-10.jpg)
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Absolutely correct Otto, your turn :)
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Thank you, easy but a bit proud non the less :D
This probably have been here before, but I take a shot at it anyway
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Jermolajew_Jer-2_Riss.jpg/1280px-Jermolajew_Jer-2_Riss.jpg)
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Yermolayev Yer-2 ?
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Yepp your turn
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Thank you.
Actually, this is a replica. But a replica of what?
(https://s31.postimg.cc/z7p3aqixn/Quest_Pic.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Avia BH-1
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Absolutely correct. :)
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Alright then, try this:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/r3ceeky5b/DD571783-_D0_F5-455_E-8_EAF-42_F356257_A9_D.jpg)
James
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Stolp Starlet SA500?
(https://s10.postimg.cc/dlsomajm1/Home008_zps4ea27969.jpg)
(https://s10.postimg.cc/bh8bl7xex/Home010_zps192109a8.jpg)
Best regards - Mike
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Correct!
Ring in Christmas for us Mike!
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Thanks James, let's give this sweet bird a try:
(https://s10.postimg.cc/6tpegyocp/alaskamat1945.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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This one looks much better as a seaplane as its land based version...
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Curtiss SC-1 Seahawk
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Perfectly right James,your turn :)
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Thanks Mike!
I will most likely be out for the week so I will leave this one for you guys:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/5a3m0ec6n/80_AB53_F8-1_AE3-4019-_A70_E-_FD3_C953267_E3.jpg)
I will be leaving the correct answer in Mikes care as I will not be here to judge.
Happy Holidays!
James
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This thing is Chinese, right?
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Not quite, no.
It's rather Bigos than Gong Bao.
Cheers!
Mike
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Thanks for the hint, Mike ;)
It's PZL MD-12.
There were three variants of MD-12: a prototype, passenger version MD-12P and aerial photogaraphy version MD-12F. One of each variant was built. Because of the glazed nose this must be the F variant.
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Spot on Shakaali.
The plane depicted is the single photogrammetric MD-12F built, shown as it's exhibited in the collection of the Polish Aviation Museum in Krakow ("Muzeum Lotnictwa Polskiego"), photographed by Tomek Spólnicki.
(https://s10.postimg.cc/yfh6rv9l5/preview_pzl-md-12_src_1.jpg)
Your turn!
Best regards - Mike
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Ok, then:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/yr4039dvt/5956297186_719a8fa60b_m.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Looks like a german plane with a british engine to me.
(https://s14.postimg.cc/uv0l96a9r/ADCCirrus_II.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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Yes and no.
The plane is German. Originally it had an Italian engine, but some later versions used British built engine. Not the one in picture, though.
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Sure?
According to my information, the plane in question originally used german (radial) engines, then in the "b" model exactly the depicted british one, and later in "d" and "f" models czech engines, albeit the latter were only license built BMW ones.
The plane I'm thinking of scored 3rd place in the "Europaflug" 1929.
Cheers!
Mike
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Nope.
It's an earlier model by the same manufacturer. Originally it had 35 hp Anzani radial engines, but some later versions were upgraded to 40 hp Salmson 9AD radial engines.
Edit: Correction, these Salmsons were made in France, not in England.
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Hello gents! Back from short hiatus because of bad weather.
Could this be the Raab-Katzenstein RK 2b "Pelikan"?
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It is Raab-Katzenstein, but not RK2 ;)
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Im pretty sure it is the RK 2b.
This is the picture I get when I search the type:
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/other1/rk2/rk2-2.jpg)
This comes from airwar.ru. The image shows the aircraft you posted and through all of the sites i have visited, they all point to this airplane being an RK 2b
James
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You can even see the name “Pelikan” on the rudder in the picture you posted.
The airplane you posted can be no other than the RK 2b.
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The airplane you posted can be no other than the RK 2b.
:-[
You are right. It IS RK2b
Actually I thought I was posting a picture of Raab-Katzenstein RK-9 Grasmücke:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/ghgf4325r/rk9-i.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
When I was looking for a good picture of it, I somehow managed to get this....
My bad. Sorry.
Well done, though. You found the right plane, even though my misleading hints ;D
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Sorry for being a bit of a jerk.
Try this:
Postimage isnt working so please do not cheat by looking at the picture info.
(http://www.jokelibrary.net/xOtherNtoZ/plane/supp-steam1.jpg)
James
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This isn't the Besler experimental steam powered biplane? The cylinders are very similar as are the landing gear,
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Thats correct but did you know about this plane beforehand?
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Thats correct but did you know about this plane beforehand?
I was looking up steam powered aircraft a month earlier, something Jay Leno was talking about with steam powered cars on his channel triggered a youtube search.
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You were watching that too?
Alright then,
Your turn!
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This is probably a little too esoteric.
(https://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/9/6/9/a10610878-56-redferret1.jpg)
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Liteco Hydrogen Peroxide powered helicopter.
Quite the strange bird.......
Powered by Hydrogen Peroxide tip jets on the end of the rotor blades.
If my memory serves me right, they were embroiled in a lawsuit about rotor blades or something like that.
There is a great article about it on Wired.
https://www.wired.com/2010/08/one-man-rocket-powered-helicopter-emits-only-water/
James
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Well I was also hoping for the name the Dragonfly DF1 but you're correct.
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I’m being a bit evil today so here you go:
(https://s10.postimg.cc/bbvvqrufd/86_C7_B65_F-1_CA3-43_FB-8_C2_F-905_F63164_D83.jpg)
Sorry for being a bit devious.
James
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(https://s14.postimg.cc/7byhy6w3l/statson.jpg)
Quest solved?
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No Mike, it's not a 'Statson' (Stetson you mean?) but a Fedora, also known as an F-35
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No Mike, it's not a 'Statson' (Stetson you mean?) but a Fedora, also known as an F-35
Well at least that makes me safe from Mike's gunfire on the SAS server THIS time... Hopefully... Maybe...
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Said to be Jess Dixon's flying automobile c. 1940.
https://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/17346
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That’s correct!
It was also known as the “Flying Ginny”.
Sniperton, you're up!
James
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I’m being a bit evil today so here you go:
(https://s10.postimg.cc/bbvvqrufd/86_C7_B65_F-1_CA3-43_FB-8_C2_F-905_F63164_D83.jpg)
Sorry for being a bit devious.
James
Nope quite alright. I'm looking at the engine on the counter-rotating micro 'copter and it looks like an old Wisconsin V4 industrial engine?
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No Mike, it's not a 'Statson' (Stetson you mean?) but a Fedora, also known as an F-35
Nice catch, yes indeed, that's the F-35 and indeed the "a" is a typo.
Quest solved.
Cheers!
Mike
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Ah it's an old L-head Conti A40. Only 40 h.p. and it was able to go 100 mph? Is this possible?
The AS315 Lama has a 450 shaft hp turbine and can only just make about 100-110 knots forward.
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To make it a bit more difficult, I show here the frontal view only:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/mi101fnkf/quest171230.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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i think is a grandpa of this :o
(https://s10.postimg.cc/r41gr8tm1/guess526.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Yep, the grandpa of a large family of fairly common aircrafts. Grandpa is embalmed and is on public display now in a museum.
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Is it a Zlin? (Wild ass guess, here)
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Yep, an early Zlín.
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Zlin XIII?
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Bingo, your turn ;D
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Ok, here you go. The first plane of 2018 ;)
(https://s10.postimg.cc/bqhvy1czd/Arvaa.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/p7eugwnat/)
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Hi
VL Tuisku, TU-152
Happy New Year!
Cheers
Barber
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Correct, your turn :)
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(https://s10.postimg.cc/gkxsrjx09/No_name.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
How about this?
Cheers
Barber
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Ilmailuvoimen Lentokonetehdas K.1 Kurki.
The only one ever built in 1926 - 1927. Quite unusual photo, as Kurki was usually equipped with floats or skis.
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You have that completely right :D
It is your turn now, maybe ours were too much domestic!
Cheers
Barber
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And now something completely different:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/afgn6hxvj/Quest2018.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That would be a Lilienthal Normal Soaring Apparatus
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Well, that was fast. :o
To be exact it is Vorflügelapparat, not Normal-Segelapparat, but they are so similar that I'll accept the answer.
https://www.fliegerweb.com/de/reports/General+Aviation/Lilienthals+Flugzeugkonstruktionen-72
Your turn.
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Alright then.....let’s go tiny shall we:
(https://s10.postimg.cc/5t9vmvajt/8_AFEB6_A0-455_D-4759-8_BF8-5_E126_F546_E00.jpg)
James
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Is the reg C/G - EBFU?
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Mex,
Use your best judgement.......... ;)
No hints this time.
James
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I hope James does not get mad :-[
too much time elapsed... ::(
hour for a hint ;D
this have the same name and nationality but different manufacturer ;)
(https://s10.postimg.cc/i914nx8mh/guess128.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It’s alright loco,
That is a Fairey Gannet.
The plane I thought I posted was a Hawker Cygnet.
On further inspection it seems to be a different plane altogether.
It was in fact a Gloster Gannet.
Sincerely,
James
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and?? How we continue? :o
;D ;D ;D
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I guess the trivia is solved and is opend round o_O
then... :o
Guess this!
(https://s10.postimg.cc/dg59ipg49/gues2012.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
is realy easy ;)
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MiG Ye-8?
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Yes mexchiwa! ;D
It would be wonderful add it as MOD to the mig-21 family for the B.A.T. 8)
you turn!
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Try this one:
(https://s19.postimg.cc/v5560p2nn/xplane1.jpg)
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One of my prospects for this very quest!
A De Havilland Vampire - more or less. Seems to be called Jetcraft Mystery Jet. It was an attempt to rebuild a Vampire into an executive jet. Appears just one was built - no success.
(https://s10.postimg.cc/rjq5hlzkp/Mystery_Jet23.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That's the one. There may have been more - I don't know if any ever flew. All yours...
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There may have been a British conversion as well - but it is all rather hazy.
Here is a question for the WW1 era types. Probably quite difficult.
(https://s10.postimg.cc/na31wj7y1/SASQuiz34.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Siemens-Schuckert fighter?
Edit: Nieuport 23 with aerodynamic propeller cover?
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No
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Nielsen & Winther Type Aa?
Danish built.
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Very good Z
Your turn
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Sticking with the WWI theme. Probably easy and used before.
(https://s13.postimg.cc/wtmqj7w0n/Sopwith_Baby.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Sopwith Baby?
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Correct. Your turn.
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(https://s19.postimg.cc/qpbrliuo3/xplane2.jpg)
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Don't know what that is, but if that is not the ugliest thing ever built I don't want to see what is :o
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It's not that ugly, but certainly very small ;)
(https://s13.postimg.cc/6kgvfc0ev/Lesher_Teal_N4291_C_1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It's not that ugly
Oh yes it is...
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The Lesher Teal - Sniperton got it
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Here you are ;D
(https://s14.postimg.cc/gaqhxqich/quest180115.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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YaK-17?
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I still do not know what it is... :(
Radoye with the Yak-17 guides my a bit, ;)
but the engine looks different, and seem have a pronounced V wings. It also seems to have a conventional landing gear and no tricycle. :o
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Yep, it's a taildragger design and that's what gives away the plane.
Note the flame deflector attached to the tail wheel strut lol - this plane acts like a tail wheel lighter ]clown[
Such crazy designs are either french or italian and this one is the latter.
Cheers!
Mike
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It has a similar design genesis to the Yak-15/17
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Not quite. It's a taildragger and the engine exhaust exits underneath the middle of the fuselage, that much for the similarities.
This plane in question however has swept wings and differs quite a lot in design, even though it's based on a 1939 plane...
Cheers!
Mike
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I think I've seen something similar on an Italian plane... Would have to do some research to remember which one exactly.
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This one perhaps?
(https://s10.postimg.cc/c8na6ye6h/ambrosini_sagittario-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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looks like a Ambrosini Sagittario to me
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To me as well. 8)
As you were the first to actually name it, the baton is yours
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Looks like it's trying to eat something :P
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Yep, it's like a small bird in the nest, asking for some fodder. ;D
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(https://s13.postimg.cc/vihs6tomf/wn16_2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I would have said it's an F-35, but now that the swastikas are clearly visible, it's no biggie to say this is a Eurofighter 8)
Cheers!
Mike
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F-52 maybe ? ;D
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Following the trail of Eurofighter I found nothing, only some overhauled mirages. ::(
But when looking for F-52 I found this beautiful wooden model, which coincides quite with the question plane. :o
(https://s10.postimg.cc/nh2dxan95/300px-_Bell_XP-59_wind_tunnel_model_060913-_F-1234_P-012.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Although do not think that prototype of Bell has svasticas ;D ;)
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For me the Eurofighter- hint was quite useful. ;)
If I am not mistaken, it's Austrian WNF Wn 16
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I will side with Shakaali
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Shakaali is right, :D your turn mate
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Thank you :)
And now something completely different:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/w7o4ij209/Kuva1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Dh83?
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No. It is not de Havilland.
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Airco?
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No. The plane is not British ;)
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An Aussie DH 83 clone?
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It is Australian but not a clone, although it's fusilage is based on Moth and wings are based on another British plane.
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VH-UUI General Aircraft Genairco Cabin
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That is correct. I was surprised how hard this one seemed to be.
General Aircraft Company Genairco Biplane. First flight in 1929. Only 9 built - some open and some cabin versions - but they were quite extensively used for 40 years. There are three survivors: still airworthy VH-UOD (open) and stored VH-UOG (open) in Australia and N240G (cabin, previously VH-UOH and VH-UUI) in USA. This is the one in picture. More info on VH-UUI: http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac1/austu/vhuui.html
Your turn, Full Metal Jacket :)
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one from the depth of my hard drive, i honestly have no idea what it was called :D
(https://s13.postimg.cc/b5uns64vr/things.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That is the NASA Hyper III
It was an American unpowered full-scale lifting body remotely piloted vehicle designed and built at the NASA Flight Research Center at Edwards Air Force Base, California.
James
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i'll be damned, it is :D congrats james
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This should be an easy one:
(https://s10.postimg.cc/68cm02jl5/Thom_s_Folly.jpg)
James
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an aermacchi MB308
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Correct Thom!
Your turn!
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(https://s13.postimg.cc/nya1kct1z/idi_nahui.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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~snip~
It's a PLANE. 8)
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AVS - advanced vertical strike aircraft
It clearly didn't have enough engines/moving parts...
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yessiree, your turn mexchiwa
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(https://s19.postimg.cc/dftt2nwwz/xplane3.jpg)
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Anybody need a hint?
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eurofighter? :-[
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Not this time... ok, it's a pusher twin from the early 80s, and though not a military aircraft it apparently fought a helicopter once...
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Sid from "Ice Age" in a futuristic diving helmet.
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Now, that was a hard one - but finally.
Avtek 400
(https://s10.postimg.cc/qyzs34czd/Avtek_400.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Got it. I thought I was going to have to post pics of 400 Pontiac Azteks...
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This one should be easier
(https://s10.postimg.cc/nvh4zzdnt/SASQuiz35.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Bell Airacuda
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Right again, P51.
Over to you
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This one should be rather easy:
(https://s13.postimg.cc/szvpxlqav/6346069_D-3_D03-46_DE-_A03_C-_D7_D0_A8_BD2353.jpg)
Have Fun!
PvF
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Almost an F-35, no kidding.
It's the remainders of the McDonnell Douglas/General Dynamics A-12.
Cheers!
Mike
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That’s correct Mike!
I picked it specifically because of your previous F-35 comments.
Your turn!
James
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Thanks James!
You can go ahead with this one:
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/4748/25127627667_8175158d49_c.jpg) (https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/4748/25127627667_97abf42793_o.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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How much of that ip is original?
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Apparently most of the avionics is modern, but switches, handles and some gauges are original.
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A total shot in the dark - Me 108?
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Absolutely right, it's this one
http://www.flugmuseum-messerschmitt.de/messerschmitt/flugzeug/me108/index.html
Your turn :)
Cheers!
Mike
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Yeah, the lettering on the instrument panel looked very much like WW2 German style, so i took a guess based on the divided cockpit windshield. A lucky one i must admit!
OK how about this one:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/3qsr0iuc1/guess.jpg)
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Polikarpov R-5?
That seems way too easy though.....there must be something to this I’m not seeing.
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I-3
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww1/i3.html
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Cool.
Nice going Stiv!
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I-3
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww1/i3.html
Nope, but you're on the right track!
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I-3 is a single seater, this could be the twin of it, the Polikarpov D-2.
Cheers!
Mike
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That's exactly what it is, Polikarpov DI-2 a.k.a. D-2, two-seat fighter.
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Alright so you can have a go at this one, not sure whether we've had that before, but it's odd enough to show:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/gr7mptyfz/quest_2018-02-01.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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A cleverly photoshopped T-38 Talon?
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Not quite. The image is shopped to hide insignia, but that's it already.
Cheers!
Mike
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Isn't it the Iranian HESA Saeqeh, an extrapolation from Northrop F-5 ?
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Correct Gaston, and this in particular is the rather rare "F-5F" based Saeqeh trainer version.
Your turn :)
Cheers!
Mike
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OK. Something older now !
(https://s14.postimg.cc/c44ev3v6p/Quiquizz34.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
What's this ? I mean... what plane is this for what purpose ?
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I'd guess that it's an Arkangelski (sp?) Ar-2 tricycle gear tested, but that still doesn't explain the braces under the fuselage...
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Tricycle landing gear test bed, right. But not the plane you mention.
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Regular sb-2? Though the cowlings look different...
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Regular SB-2, yes. SB-2M-103, to be precise.
(https://s14.postimg.cc/hvece590x/SB-2_M-103_de_test.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Source : Squadron Signal 1194, Aircraft number 194, Tupolev SB In Action.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IMcAAOSwZ4dZLEJ9/s-l300.jpg)
Your turn, Mex !
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I’ve got nothing right now, open house
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I hesitate to venture amongst you experten - but here goes!
f_f
(https://s18.postimg.cc/uha8os5d5/mystery_from_f_f.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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tip: was an airliner from Sidney to Broken Hill ;)
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hi locopiston
could well be true - but news to me.
they must have been brave passengers!
f_f
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Hello Finn!
surely they was brave to fly over desert 1000km in that thing! ;D
Te model also works of shark patrol on beaches! cool job. 8)
This specific plane was modified as ambulance; and ended up lost after landing a marsh that appeared as field of grass. o_O
The crew survived and was 33 days lost and were helped by the local tribe. :o
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my apologies to all
back to open house.
f_f
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I found it!
It’s a Tugan Gannet, also known as a Wackett Gannet.
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well done, P51vsFW190. You are indeed correct!
problem is we've had it before.
f_f
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I will still take my turn though.....
Try this
(https://s9.postimg.cc/nifz12g0f/36_B70_D58-40_EA-4_F2_E-96_AD-3_EC3_DD6_DE427.jpg)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/sh3hflc3j/F5139_E2_A-_D593-4703-8275-42_FF295_B4_E4_A.jpg)
James
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Despite the obvious (it's an F-35, no doubt), this could as well be some strange incarnation of the Sack AS-6 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_AS-6).
Cheers!
Mike
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Mike,
You are spot on!
This is the AS 6 V1
Wonderful little model kit. Very pretty.
Your up!
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Alright, this is probably not too hard...
(https://s18.postimg.cc/xb8dsvb7d/quest_2018-02-07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lm4e4wk8l/)
Cheers!
Mike
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Panavia Tornado?
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Absolutely correct, this is the plane:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/a18glr1u1/IMG_0620.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i6qijwq2t/)
Your turn!
Cheers!
Mike
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beautiful trust reverse gears...
as alwas i was beat for seconds...
i was tying to define the version... GR4? IDS? ECR? ADV?
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In that case: ECR ;)
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Still nothing to post so, open house! ;D
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Okay, something easy again:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/3w362wni1/quest_2018-02-08.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jubvt1hpx/)
Cheers!
Mike
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Unless this is a set-up, it's either a Percival Pembroke or Sea Prince - don't know if I've ever seen one with a glass nose
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Hi.
It is a Hunting Percival Pembroke Mk.53.
I saw those in early sixties almost daily. :)
Cheers
Barber
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Since mexchiwa used an "or" answer, I think it's fair to give the baton to barber since he's reasonably close.
The plane is a Percival Pembroke C Mk.54 of the German Navy, from exactly that naval air wing I've been serving in for 9 years.
Your turn barber!
Cheers!
Mike
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Thanks Mike
I am not having any special ones to post at the moment, so it is free!
Cheers
Barber
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Ah well, in that case... another easy one:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/vuf887lq9/quest_2018-02-08_no2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ybqzfh5ml/)
Cheers!
Mike
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Lifting Body ?
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Quite possible but if so, which one?
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Northrop M2-F2 ?
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Correct Gaston, your turn :)
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Thanks, my friend !
Soooooooooo... in what plane are we now ?
(https://s9.postimg.cc/5iysq4fi7/Quiquizz35.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hm... single engine monoplane?
Crew of two?
Hispano-Suiza 12Y-51 engine?
Twin vertical stabilizers?
Cheers!
Mike
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Seems you are on a quite good way... and sure it is one I would like to see in IL-2 !
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EKW C-3603, of course Storebror knew that so I'd give it to him....
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That is perfectly right ! EKW C-3603 !
(https://www.39-45.org/files3945c/9846_C-3603-cockpit.jpg)
We can almost say it is a Spitfire nose with a Bf-110 tail... and playing the role of an IL-2 !
(http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/c3603_marcmichel.jpg)
(http://www.aviapics.ch/images/aviapics/flugzeuge/C-3603/C-3603-1.jpg)
Later, it was given to this plane a Pinocchio nose and a turboprop engine...
(http://www.cavok.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/FW-C3605-2.jpg)
...and it became the ugly C-3605 with unterminable nose and triple vertical stabilizers... not an aesthetical achievement, but it allows the plane to remind in use until 1987 with the Swiss Air Force (in target tug role)... not bad, for a 1940-1942 design ! anyway... I wish the C-3603 had a place in our favourite sim !
Storebror had it all, but did not name it. Mexchiwa did name it. So... who of you wants to continue ?
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Definitely an interesting plane and I must say I somehow like these postwar turboprop modifications.
As odd as they look, the result usually is an extremely powerful kite.
Okay, let's proceed with this one. Took the picture off a book, shopped out the text etc. just to find that the result is available on the net, so it should not be too hard:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/o997v31l5/quest_2018-02-10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8nrwb4pmt/)
Cheers!
Mike
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Fi 167?
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Ar.68
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Mexchiwa is right and gets the baton.
Your turn :D
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How about this one:
(https://s19.postimg.cc/rszubntjn/xplane4.jpg)
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Mex,
Your choices make my head hurt...........GOOD ONE!
I will sit out this round gents.
James
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This one makes me think about some space version of Captain Nemo's Nautilus ! :D
http://blog.martymagic.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/jules-verne-nautilus-Disney-Version.jpg
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This plane andJules Verne are from the same country...
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The name refers to a characteristic... which, not possess ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D :P
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Also a top speed of 400 kph, but may have been supersonic at times...
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This plane still exists (in a little worse shape) at the Ailes Anciennes Toulouse
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may have been supersonic at times
But not on it's own behalf :D
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Supersonic in wind tunnel test only ?
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Falling down vertically would do the trick too, but indeed IRL it passed the 500kph mark in wind tunnel tests only.
Cheers!
Mike
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Loco - I think you knew what it was first, want to call it so we can move on to the next one?
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Oh yes, show me an un-identifyable distorted F-35 pic please! :D
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ok, the last thing was SNCASO-ONERA Deltaviex.
A sub-powered test prototype for supersonic speeds. :P
Complying with what they ask for; Guess this! ;D
(https://s10.postimg.cc/q3fby9qc9/guess142.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Oh yeah, a true freestyle F-35 ;)
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...F-15 with thrust vectoring...?
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In a way :P
But honestly the image screams that it's ruskie.
Cheers!
Mike
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Easy then: Yak-141 Freestyle :D
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Yes! As you asked me for a distorted F-35, I gave a freestyle version. 8)
But an F-35 at last, being at least 85% of this. Almost everything, except the technological disguise. :o
The name of this primary version of the F-35 would be Yakolev yak-141 :P
While storebror put the name first, kilo named the specific version. ;)
Kilo you have the baton!
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As always, nothing to post so, give your best shot at open round ;)
EDIT: Can I change my mind? Found something neat.
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I would say go for it.
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Roger that. Go!
(https://s19.postimg.cc/5o8q5g8b7/riddle_me.jpg)
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Six RS-82? Must be a Yak-1 ;)
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More in common with an IAR-80....
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...and with Alouette III, no ?
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You're on the right track ;)
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I'd like to solve the puzzle - it's an IAR-317 Airfox, derived from the Alouette
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Correct! Mexchiwa, you have the baton.
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I got nothing - open house
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Try this.....
(https://s10.postimg.cc/4u8aoe2ax/image.jpg)
James
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Ha, a typical James picture :D
Nice and interesting armament.
Descriptions of it differ. IIRC wikipedia refers to the guns being of "DRP" type and many sources claim that it'd be "75mm APK" ones (which in fact were 76.2mm APK-4, installed on early versions of this kite), actually what's shown here are the tail ends of the 37mm version of APK-11, aka "APK-37", installed on the last batch of 50 aircraft produced of this type.
That much for the hints, now it's up to you to guess which version of the F-35 it is 8)
Cheers!
Mike
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A 'James picture' is more typical of James than of the plane.
(https://s14.postimg.cc/967l02eqp/Grigorovich_IZ.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I will give you a hint,
It is developmentally similar to the Polikarpov I-5.
Good luck!
James
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They are recoilless, right? Was this plane ever hung under a TB-3?
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No more hints.
Use your best judgement.
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I-Z or more exactly TsKB-7 no.1 prototype
Ts KB-7 no.1 prototype as completed in June- July 1931
(https://s9.postimg.cc/n7po2wg9r/Ts_KB-7_no.1_prototype_as_completed_in_June-_July_1931_finished_i.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I-Z interim development
(https://s9.postimg.cc/s6d6hhp8f/I-_Z_p-n_39010_under_investigation_by_the_NII_VVS_at_Schelkovo_1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Series manufactured I-Z:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/i925oi27z/Series_manufacture_I-_Z_from_Zavod_135_sn_213518_under_investig.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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DreamK my friend,
You are absolutely, positively, one hundred percent CORRECT!!!!!
It is your turn.
James
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An easy one - but a plane I am fond of, rather an ugly aircraft but with a "character":
(https://s9.postimg.cc/va0xaulvj/432x260.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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This must be the Junkers K-47
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That’s not ugly, It’s ”visually temper-mental”
James
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Yes the Ju47 - a dive bomber that was built in too small numbers to have real impact, though it could have.
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Right then - an easy one again:
(https://s10.postimg.cc/3k0f2jdhl/SASQuiz36.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Tø Hø
Must be a Bohm and Voss 141 prototype
Benno
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Incredible - your turn
Blohm actually
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i assume it is an open round situation... ::(
Lets go with an suuuuuper easy one to try relive this tread ;D
What plane is it?
(https://s10.postimg.cc/laei6zlmx/guess-111.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It's the single-seater, fighter variant of the Ilyushin Il-1, the successor (!) to the Il-2, and the predecessor of the Il-10. Soviet designations are pure fun, they seem to follow the pattern of the knight's movement in chess :)
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Sniper,
Now that you mention it, it really does follow a similar pattern.
I wonder why?
James
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There was a rule, probably even today, that odd numbers are for fighters. This explains why the "1" came after the "2". Then why 10 next? 4, 6, and 8 were already used up for other designs, so the next unused even number happened to be the "10".
I think it's a bit like the various Spitfire variants, where higher numbers do not necessarily designate later designs.
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yes! ;D
Your turn Sniperton!
Don't think it lacks a bit of visibility to be a fighter? :-[ o_O
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Then let's have another (much earlier) fighter with poor visibility (sorry for the image quality):
(https://s13.postimg.cc/cyrdd4cnr/quest181228.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Forget the Russians - I never understood the German designation system. Can anybody explain that to me? 108, 109, 110 go to Messerschmidt, 111 goes to Heinkel, 87 and 88 go to Junkers?
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That’s a Lohner right?
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Just similar to the Lohner AA, whose later versions had a longer fuselage, while the early version (10.20) had different struts (among others). The quest aircraft was small and round like a flea.
BTW, does anyone know the answer to mexchiwa's question concerning German designation numbers?
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Mex,
Im not too sure but I think it has something to do with the time the aircraft were accepted by the RLM. I used to have a book about this exact topic and as I remember the Reichsluftfahrtministerium had a strange way of numbering things although their way was much easier to understand than the American system.
When I find that book again I will try to explain in better detail.
(Edit)
Although I did find this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RLM_aircraft_designation_system
I will also add these as a bonus:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RLM_aircraft_by_manufacturer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RLM_paint_designations
James
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Thanks James, here is the complete list of RLM type numbers:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RLM_aircraft_designations
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music is my aeroplane ;D
(https://s10.postimg.cc/4266jygzd/flea.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Come on, Loco, sound your guess!
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i search in google: poor visivility german biplane figther and the image from wikipedia page apears :-[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DFW_Floh
Is a DFW T.28 Floh... or flea in inglish... ;D
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Bingo! Your turn :)
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tanks! was funny!
now try to find this rare bird! ;D
(https://s10.postimg.cc/x9oofbrcp/gues3318.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Scene design by Schinkel for Mozart's opera 'The Magic Flute', Papageno in disguise.
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;D but is more close to Chaikovski :o
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"Firebird" (this time by Kalinin, not Stravinsky):
http://en.valka.cz/topic/view/44464/Kalinin-K-12
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yep! ;D
i like planes in costumes! :P
you turn sniperton!
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What happened to the friend and partner Sniperton????? o_O
Hope that he is fine! ;)
While we wait for him, guess this! ;D
(https://s10.postimg.cc/emx5msmxl/guess666.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5rwbc9y51/)
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Can't see very well the picture, but it looks to have a mixed propulsion, right ? Jet and propeller, right ?
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Sorry, Loco, we're on a ski holiday, with limited net access, but I enjoy it enermously :D
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Kaiser-Fleetwings XBTK-1. Just one prop. Quite a looker, though
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Mexchigua is right! Have the baton! ;D
Poor Sniperton ... he's suffering from the cold ... but it's good to hear that he's fine. ;)
The one that is similar with mixed propulsion is saved for later,Gaston. 8)
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Here's one (wish I was skiing ;)):
(https://s9.postimg.cc/yz861vw1r/xplane5.jpg)
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;D
Is a grognard version of the F-107A, also is a fat silver flying barrel, have 2 typical engines for the era and type. ;)
too many tips :-X
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SE 2410 Grognard, if that's what you meant (of course a few years before the F-107), it's all yours...
http://www.aviastar.org/air/france/sud-est_grognard.php
Two Nenes in the fuselage, no wonder it was so fat...
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;D
I expected another with my clues to guess. :o
but since you give it to me for valid and you unveiled the mystery now I go with this ;D
(https://s10.postimg.cc/ju9z2few9/guess8m18.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
guess this!
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It's the Cornelius XFG-1
A fuel transporting glider. Must have been fun riding a couple of tons of fuel.
For some reason the concept never caught on
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Yes, lamehawk! ;D
I think it's the only thing knowed that flies with fuel inside, and not concern that it's over. :P
you have the baton!
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You mean "caught on" fire !
Benno
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Thank you.
Now for something rare:
(https://s10.postimg.cc/rfwaja8xl/SASQuiz37.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Argus engines?
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They look like two of these ;D
https://youtu.be/70Z28nULwfQ
Arado Ar 96 twins? :-|
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But in the movie, they are not Arados : they are Pilatus P-2...
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No - not Argus engines.
I can't say more - otherwise it will reveal too much.
Still: 6 cylinders and about 185 horses
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Is this the original design, or was it a single engined aircraft that was twinned?
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It's original and just one was made. First flight 1940
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Bestetti Nardi BN.1. Dunno why (and for what) the two cockpits.
(https://s13.postimg.cc/u8y4b583r/10170_L.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Right you are.
Your turn
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Thanks, but what was the reason behind the two cockpits?
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I haven't been able to find any reasoning for the double cockpit
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Then let's have another twin construction. I hope we haven't had this yet:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/lw6tg5h6n/quest180311.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Despite of German markings I believe this bird is Italian
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Never knew about that gun in the tail...
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According to what I read on wikipedia, it was confused by a pilot of an MC.205 velto with a P-38. The plane got serious damage wich ruined the development. o_O
will it be true? :-|
it's a Savoia-Marchetti SM.92 ;D
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Correct, Loco, your turn. Food for thought how the defensive MG in the tail was meant to be used.
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great! ;D
now guess this!
(https://s10.postimg.cc/50ykwzmjd/guess123.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Fairchild AT-21
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close but no cigar. :o
It is the manufacturer, but that is not the correct denomination. 8)
Only 2 were made but nowadays they have leafy descendants ;)
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Fairchild XBQ-3 sn 43-25253 radio-controlled drone
(https://s14.postimg.cc/6fx28kb69/Fairchild_XBQ-3_sn_43-25253_radio-controlled_drone_aircraft_on_t.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/o5yqtlor1/)
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yep! ;D
thath are an early drone. Remains the cockpit for a taxi.
Have the baton Von Waffen!
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who know this one
(https://s14.postimg.cc/jgjdiwou9/va-xp56-02-cr-12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lxv4q68ql/)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_XP-56_Black_Bullet
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Yes this 8x10 press photos was based on actual photographs of the aircraft, but which are heavily retouched by an artist. Keep in mind, this was war time, and the rules on releasing actual photos of cutting edge, experimental aircraft, were quite restrictive on what could actually be shown. the real one was not really like this... Sniperton your time
(https://s14.postimg.cc/otd9u7gi9/va-xp56-02-book-12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/e6jgos8ct/)
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Thanks, but it's open round, I have nothing in the attic ;)
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cool i put this one for you :P
(https://s14.postimg.cc/q9osc81dt/315677_8a7762fe27dded7f8d523930b6ba7a85.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Bf-161?
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Hey mex,
I got something interesting waiting in the wings if you catch my drift. Don’t forfeit your round for me or anything. I just wanted you to know that I’ve had something on the back burner for some time now but I can wait my turn.
James
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I would add 1 to what Mexchiwa said ... ;D
That would be Bf-162 8)
Only do this to see what James have on his hands. :-[
I am like a kid and do not know wait. :P
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it s your turn James :)
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Fine,
If you insist!
This is it:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/ub3qxp01b/8_C1030_F3-_FF05-4_FCA-941_D-_EC0564_BB599_D.jpg)
Good Luck!
James
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Dang! :o
An early version of AWACS? How is that radome explained? o_O
When one sees the elegant curvy lines of the wings and two-bladed propellers could say that it is a Piaggio of the golden age...
But it would be painted ivory white and in the background you would see mountains. This seems to be camo-painted.
I would never have a fixed landing gear, is contradictory with the rest of the aerodynamics.
I'll keep looking :-[
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Mmmmmmh... British, I think...
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Looks to me like it may be one of the strange "Miles" experimental aircraft.
Certainly has features very like the M30 from 1942....
Damn I has seen this aircraft before ..... somewhere.... Monday morning. Need caffeine.
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Miles was also my first thought. Definitely British.
A little search found the Boulton Paul P.92.
Was to have been a heavy fighter with four 20mms in the dome on top of the fuselage. This is a half-scale model which was test flown in 1941, but died out due to standardization of aircraft types
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Absolutely Lame!
You're up!
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Up and dancing!
How about a nice flying boat.
(https://s10.postimg.cc/v4q7o6lix/SASQuiz38.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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a Saunders-Roe waterbird? :-[
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No 8)
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British ? Short ?
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Looks like a military version of a de-militarised Sunderland :P But which one ?
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For me it's more like the Sikorsky VS-44 (position of the vertical stabilizer), but I can't positively identify as such.
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It reminds me of a 44 - either VS-44 or Tupolev ANT-44, but I don't think it's either. PB2Y prototype? (with fixed floats?)
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Sikorsky XPBS-1
The aircraft that spawned the VS-44
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Yep, the pattern/placing of the windows on the fuselage supports your solution. Still I can't identify the photo.
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But I can.
The original photo can be seen behind glass located below the nose of the VS-44 Excambian here at the New England Air Museum. It was taken during the first taxi trials of the aircraft in Long Island Sound just south of Stratford, Connecticut.
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Lucky you, but wait off until LameHawk gives you the baton. Until then prepare to drive us mad again :D
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Yep, P51.
You are absolutely right ;D
Your turn it is
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Yay!
Alright, try this one:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/x9qcqwubv/397_A7_A01-4140-4899-_BA7_D-2881357_DE35_C.jpg)
James
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FFA P-16? Father of the Learjet?
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Right again Mex
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Open house
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If it is an open house, allow me to post an easy one for you guys. The gear is the givaway.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/qx619xj3z/whatgear.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That is an A6M at the end of the war wearing green surrender crosses for identification much like this picture:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/5s9xn2txn/53_AA6976-_ED2_A-4909-_B87_C-_AFE0708_BA059.jpg)
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That's an F-35 and the Pilot's dog goes by the name "Zeke" :P
Cheers ]cheers[
Mike
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Mike, you grew old in an instant, did you give up biking? ]protest[
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I was notified that my Avatar looked to flashy 8)
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That is an A6M at the end of the war wearing green surrender crosses for identification much like this picture:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/5s9xn2txn/53_AA6976-_ED2_A-4909-_B87_C-_AFE0708_BA059.jpg)
Exactly right! :)
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The king of the quest board strikes again!!!!!
Here, try this:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/iqp8cqhu3/9_C9_DD772-_D40_E-4_B76-_B0_FA-5_AD5_FFFB3_CFB.jpg)
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By the expression of eyebrows and mustache he reminded me of Clark Gable :P
(https://s9.postimg.cc/oq6n2tzr3/clark-gable-03.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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If Clark Gable was in w i d e s c r e e n very high aspect ratio...
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Yes mex, of course ;)
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Dang James! ;D
It is very difficult o_O
With the 727 2887 that can be seen in the background, on the top right, i found this tunderstreak of the Musée de l'Air et de Espace do Bourguet Paris France.
(https://s9.postimg.cc/71p1t0fpr/tunder.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
All that to realize that in the pavilion of Prototypes Francais they changed the permanent exhibition, it seems that only removing the one of the trivia. ::( ::( ::( ::( ::(
(https://s9.postimg.cc/hoiuyfvkv/P_francais.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Well it's not all that difficult.
The plane we're looking for is a Hurel-Dubois HD.10 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurel-Dubois_HD.10), a French research aircraft first flown in 1948 to investigate Maurice Hurel's ideas about high aspect ratio wings.
(https://s9.postimg.cc/ekcsfdoqn/Ghd10.jpg)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/y27fvbte7/Ghd10-2.jpg)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/4zt5sieu7/Ghd10-3.jpg)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/q9gs3d2un/Ghd10-index.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4zt5simjv/)
Cheers!
Mike
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That is correct Mike.
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Thanks James, nice one you chose there.
Hope I didn't spoil the fun too much ;)
Let's try this one:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/dabi5fsxr/quest_2018-03-26.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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A Menasco Unitwin powered Vega built Lockheed Altair
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True that. Your turn James :)
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Let‘s see, How about this:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/6wsxk7ci9/72_D23_A4_B-04_A4-43_EB-_A0_FC-_A26_D7_D758535.jpg)
Sincerely,
James
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looks sleek 8)
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More like dangerous
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Those racing types often look much the same.
My guess is Folkerts SK3
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It's an indirect reminder for me to finish the Brown B2 Miss Los Angeles Racer.
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Just to prove my point that they look much the same! ;D
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Lame,
Im gonna be real specific on this one.
You are so close. But not quite.
The SK-3 has a longer nose than this plane.
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The SK-3 has a longer nose than this plane.
So it's an SK-2⅞ 8)
Or rather this one?
\( \huge{SK-(2+{{\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty{1\over{n!}}}\over{e}})} \)
*SCNR*
Cheers!
Mike
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~snip~
والله مشكلة
(Note: Please don't use Google translate - it's really gonna take the phrase into a whole new meaning)
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Yes it is indeed a Folkerts SK-2
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Woot?
Nobody mentioned an SK-2 yet ]help[
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I hate to admit my total failure here ;), so I guess that Mike is the next victim to produce a new oddity. That calculation is of course unbeatable (obviously not even Google Translate (ha!) can handle it).
Actually P51 was the first to mention the SK2, so maybe it really is his turn again 8)
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Lame, don't be blind, it was a quest by P51. He can't be the winner. You were very close, and provided simple mathematic calculations do not count (F-35 / anything = anything2), you won. Let James teach a lesson ]thumbsup[ He deserves.
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I am still passing the baton to Lame
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Right so James 8)
I've pulled your leg with my previous reply.
SK-2⅞ of course was just bullshit and referred to your comment that the nose of the quest plane is shorter than the one of an SK-3. Short->Lower Number->SK-3->SK-2⅞. Bullshit.
And this one...
\( \huge{SK-(2+{{\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty{1\over{n!}}}\over{e}})} \)
...is just a little math around Euler's Number (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(mathematical_constant)) e.
e is defined as the as the sum of the infinite series...
\( \huge{e = \sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty{1\over{n!}}} \)
...and can as well be written in a couple of other ways, but given the equation shown above, my formula boils down to...
\( \huge{SK - ( 2 + {e \over e} )} \)
...which is...
\( \huge{SK - ( 2 + 1 ) = SK-3} \)
...and that's just the wrong answer to your quest as you've pointed out before.
Cheers!
Mike
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Mike,
Youre gonna make my head explode. LameHawk is next. End of story.
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Right, Lame is next and I'll stop teaching you Math.
How about a little Physics?
Cheers!
Mike
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All right - there is nothing like a little confusion, is there! ;D
Mike actually being 1/8 (of whatever) closer than me.
(@Sniper - no I'm not blind, but P51 was in fact the very first to name the SK-2!)(Just being a literal nitpicker here)
Right - try this one:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/9t0ie6e9b/SASQuiz39.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Fairey Battle at first sight.
This special one is the Battle IIT turret trainer, equipped with a Wright Cyclone R-1820-G3B radial engine, which got converted to this state in Canada after having been built initially as Fairey Battle T trainer in the UK.
Some more images of this bird:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/dpmrzfs4b/Battle--_Canso--amp--_Hudson--_Anson--13-_Jun-1943--_MIKAN-_No--358967.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/udea1ya17/Fairey-_Battle--radial-engine---_MIKAN-_No--3583020.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/8e7vergcb/Fairey-_Battle--radial-engine--_D11-43---_MIKAN-_No--3583019.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/a60u9nrzf/Fairey-_Battle-_Mk--_II--_LAC-_MIKAN-_No--3586781.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/4ulxoxy6z/Fairey-_Battle-_Mk--_IV--_Bristol-gun-turret-and-camera-gun-brackets.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/sllb72ljf/Fairey-_Battle-with-_Cyclone-radial-engine---_MIKAN-_No--3586792.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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Too easy obviously.
Mike - your turn
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Yeah sorry but that bird was shouting in our faces that it's a Battle 8)
Or maybe it's just me.
I love the Battle.
Anyway, time for silver barrels:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/gm9szofxn/quest_2018-03-27.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bnmal5c4n/)
Cheers!
Mike
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(@Sniper - no I'm not blind, but P51 was in fact the very first to name the SK-2!)(Just being a literal nitpicker here)
Sniper is deaf, but is perceptive to irony ;)
Mike, I guess the picture was taken on 24th May 1952 and the pilot's name was M.J. Lithgow.
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Confirmed Sniper, your turn 8)
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Mine was only a hint, not a solution, let's wait off the solution! ;)
(BTW, many thanks for implementing special chars, a side effect of which is that now we all can use mathematical formulas as a Vergeltungswaffe against the King of Quests. FYI 'Árvíztűrő tükörfúrógép', brought up enthousiastically by Atoka, means 'flood-resistant mirror-drilling machine'.)
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Supermarine Type 508?
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C4! I guess it's your turn ;D
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I will wait till Mike confirms it
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Mike confirms, spot on James, definitely your turn!
Cheers
Mike
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Supermarine Type 508?
That is such a sexy looking plane!
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Supermarine Type 508?
That is such a sexy looking plane!
+1 ! Wasn't it Type 529 in this case ?
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I‘m about to be a bit of an ass so I apologize in advance.
(https://s7.postimg.cc/4b5h8k6jf/76_D2_E9_D4-_CDE4-46_CF-9_A88-_B844_A4629798.jpg)
Here you go.
James
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Don't apologize. We're all aware of you 8)
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Wasn't it Type 529 in this case ?
No, the carrier-trials aboard HMS Eagle were carried out with Type 508.
I‘m about to be a bit of an ass so I apologize in advance.
Why apologize? It's easy, this is an 鷲型試作軽爆撃機(わしがたしさくけいばくげきき).
Cheers!
Mike
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As Sniper says
Don't apologize. We're all aware of you 8)
Don't worry - just my words!
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Mike,
Correct language, wrong airplane.......
Nice try though.
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wrong airplane
Says who?
Your picture:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/4b5h8k6jf/76_D2_E9_D4-_CDE4-46_CF-9_A88-_B844_A4629798.jpg)
Wikipedia picture:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/ag99vyu97/Mitsubishi_2_MB2.jpg)
Wikipedia websites:
Mitsubishi 2MB2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_2MB2)
鷲型試作軽爆撃機 (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%B7%B2%E5%9E%8B%E8%A9%A6%E4%BD%9C%E8%BB%BD%E7%88%86%E6%92%83%E6%A9%9F)
Original Image:
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/8284/7586005436_b89814acae_o.jpg)
Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/49487266@N07/7586005436
Repository: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive (http://sandiegoairandspace.org/collection/image-collection)
Description:
Mitsubishi, 2MB2, Washi 2 Place Bomber
Catalog #: 01_00085948
Title: Mitsubishi, 2MB2, Washi 2 Place Bomber
Corporation Name: Mitsubishi
Official Nickname: Washi 2 Place Bomber
Additional Information: Japan
Designation: 2MB2
Tags: Mitsubishi, 2MB2, Washi 2 Place Bomber
So... who's gonna check his sources now, you or me?
Cheers!
Mike'
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What you posted earlier translated out as something else entirely. I still give it to you.
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If you google for 鷲型試作軽爆撃機(わしがたしさくけいばくげきき), the very first link is to https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%B7%B2%E5%9E%8B%E8%A9%A6%E4%BD%9C%E8%BB%BD%E7%88%86%E6%92%83%E6%A9%9F
I guess Mike's knowledge of kanji and katakana is as limited as mine or yours. He simply switched from the English Wiki page to the Japanese one, and copied out the heading/title. Nasty little trick, but it worked ;D Still easier to replicate than to learn/re-learn maths or physics. Oh, when I was young and a simple quadratic equation or designing an electric board didn't pose any problem! :-[
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Thanks James :)
Kanji and Katakana isn't much of a problem, I've got assistance for that next to me ;)
Okay, an easy one for today, just thought I'd post it because considering that this picture has been taken during cold war, I'm wondering what the photographer feels like today.
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/791/39278538500_bef08560e6_o.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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Sukhoi Su-15 Flagon-D.
The cranked wingtips gave it away.
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It's a jet!
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Sukhoi Su-15 Flagon-D.
Eh... No Sir.
Before I get stumped into ground now: This is no hidden nitpicking. In fact it's clearly visible that this is not a Sukhoi Su-15 Flagon-D.
Cheers!
Mike
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I'm going to go with the Sukhoi SU-15TM.
Zflyer48
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And the baton goes to Zflyer48!
It's indeed the Su-15TM "Flagon-F", clearly identifyable from the perforated plate covering the top of the CRT display housing.
All of this belongs to the «Тайфун-М» (Taifun-M Radar, NATO code "Twin Scan"), which is the Flagon-F radar system.
Your turn Zflyer!
Cheers!
Mike
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Let me try an easy one from my favorite era.
(https://s31.postimg.cc/jkqzhzacb/Curtiss_SNC-1_NAS_Jax_Jan_1942.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qb7grexhz/)
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Curtiss Wright CW-22/SNC Falcon
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It's a PLANE! 8)
(in b4 thread ban)
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A plain plane 8)
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Plane devastated I am :-[
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Well, I said it was plane easy. Go P51
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Here is a semi-easy one:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/d59l2dcob/B051_C491-_E032-42_C8-96_EB-43_AFEB7_AF395.jpg)
James
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Hawker Demon?
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There is a specific name I’m looking for because this aircraft is counted as a seperate type according to the manufacturer.
You are close.
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The missing detail is called FN.1A and looks like this 8)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/98ixkgzbf/t_01.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/bpuorqynf/t_02.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/5owzuo4bf/t_03.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/d4w9ghf63/t_04.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/3kcmtli4b/t_05.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/k844w47qz/t_06.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/yrb9xj8ln/t_07.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/qykm5jfh7/t_08.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/ou094glk9/t_09.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/qlt7zds2j/t_10.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/xc9p8tmy3/t_11.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/i3jrv20zf/t_12.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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Thank you Mike.
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I like the harpoon in the fuselage
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Speaking of Harpoons....I am sure Mike will forgive me:
Happy easter egg hunting guys :)
(https://s7.postimg.cc/q5o93d6q3/vietmovieclip2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Too much Curry, not for me but you're forgiven 8)
Happy Easter and pretty bunnies!
Cheers!
Mike
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Too much Curry, not for me but you're forgiven 8)
Happy Easter and pretty bunnies!
Cheers!
Mike
Lol. yup not too many deltas in navy service to choose from :) You are spot on.
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The missiles led the way.
Proceeding further through Denis' book, I have meanwhile visited the SAAF homepage where there are lots of interesting informations about old and current weapon systems, and even those which have not made it into SAAF service.
The latter category includes this particular missile type, and since it's such an interesting story, I have of course remembered it and immediately knew which missiles I've seen here.
From there on, it's not too far to the plane type anymore.
Cheers!
Mike
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Lets wait till someone else gets it by name (cause hunting it is the fun lol), then I will pass the baton back to you :)
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James' quest is still unsolved ;)
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James' quest is still unsolved ;)
Oh yes I see! Sorry, that was rude of me James!
Perhaps our plane id experts can whack both puzzles :)
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Perhaps..........
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So, "Turret Demon" then for the first one?
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So, "Turret Demon" then for the first one?
I think Radoye is correct with the Hawker, but will wait for James to confirm.
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That is correct.
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I can not understand why being on the other side of the world in all respects they gave it that name. o_O
Self-perceived colonialism? :(
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Here is one more clue. Note the green mottle, and the ironic old-spec nato concrete aircraft hardcover in the back
(https://s31.postimg.cc/bwwbhx8t7/goodone.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It's a HAL Tejas, right?
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It's a HAL Tejas, right?
100% correct! :)
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I got nuthin- open house
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Then I believe it is fair that the guy on the block must be Radoye, since he got the other one right.
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That is correct. Radoye is up.
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OK this might be a bit too hard but let's see:
(https://media.tangosix.rs/2016/02/HA2A0151-850x350.jpg)
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Definitely "three fasces" roundels on the wings, therefore Regia Aeronautica, maybe MC.200 or G.50 or something of that kind.
Cheers!
Mike
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Definitely "three fasces" roundels on the wings, therefore Regia Aeronautica, maybe MC.200 or G.50 or something of that kind.
Definitely correct, now just to guess the correct plane.
HINT: There are other roundels visible on the wing too, which should pin it down to the correct type. Also, it is the last remaining of its type in existence today.
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I woul be inclined to say that these are Fiat G.50 outer wing panels
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(https://cdn.fishki.net/upload/post/2018/01/08/2477877/tn/57674285f4af5fef5c5ceda721afe5e2.jpg)
Nobody knows ?
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I woul be inclined to say that these are Fiat G.50 outer wing panels
And you would be 100% correct! :)
Your turn
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TRY THIS:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/9zeb9ux2h/09_B2_DF9_B-_E81_C-4_EFD-_AB76-_D97_F5_A084_D74.jpg)
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To James:
Seeing its nose, thought similar to Grumman's family of amphibians: widgeon, goose and albatross. :-|
Thinking was a scale model or test bench, but no. It turned out to be the Grumman G-65 Tadpole https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_G-65_Tadpole (ftp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_G-65_Tadpole) (good name for this batrachian). The most incredible thing is that it has an offspring in our days as the Lake Renegade ;D
For Uzin:
You bought that camera in E-bay at $ 7000?!?!?!? o_O
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That is correct Loco,
Your turn.
James
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http://www.germanluftwaffe.com/archiv/Dokumente/ABC/b/Beobachtungsgereate/ESK%202000/lichtbild%20mg%20esk%20%202000.html
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Ok!
Sorry for the delay ... a lot of work. :-[
Let's go with this nice crappy plane ;D
guess this!
(https://s9.postimg.cc/5c9kp847z/guess0304.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It's a Stuka 3D fix that went wrong. Apparently the pilot mod didn't fit well 8)
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a Stuka 3D fix....
C'è una piccola differenza ;) - quello non e solamente un Stuka ma e un Stukissimo..... ;D
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Now one thing's for sure: With that cockpit position the pilot will never get cold feet.
Cheers!
Mike
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Now one thing's for sure: With that cockpit position the pilot will never get cold feet.
Cheers!
Mike
his feet will be fine actually, they are the furthest things from the engine ;)
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ahh this is the experimental Stuka they built.
The pilot lies face down in the cockpit.
Damn cannot remember the designation
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"è fortemente vietato di solleticare il piede del pilota durante la picchiata"
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I think it's Italian, a SM , can't remember any more :D
Benno
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SM.93, i was just researching this plane not that long ago for a project of mine.
I got nothing, free round.
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Free round huh?
Alright then, try this:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/4l67095gr/9_A7_B9770-_B6_A5-4098-8_A41-26_E9_FECDDF31.jpg)
James
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Windows? I thought windows was a luxury only committed by capitalist imperials? And square ones to boot!
It is late here, so I'll say "Ta" - 1 of you guys will surely get this one right by the time I wake up again :)
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Sorry, I have to post one before I go to sleep, so here is answer:
CHETVERIKOV TA-1
:)
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Correct once again!
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This one is dead easy, but I am putting it up because it is very cute, and very interesting, and I for one would love to have one parked outside my house :)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/6o9vg08c9/2guess.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The stealthy lines give it away: It's an F-35! 8)
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Proof that in America even a Volkswagen can fly, provided it gets some wings.
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This one is dead easy, but I am putting it up because it is very cute, and very interesting, and I for one would love to have one parked outside my house
Yeah, it's so cute! I'd love to have one, too... too bad there's none left....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_15-P
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That one brought Ford back into producing the B-24, go figure :o
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This one is dead easy, but I am putting it up because it is very cute, and very interesting, and I for one would love to have one parked outside my house
Yeah, it's so cute! I'd love to have one, too... too bad there's none left....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_15-P
Correct!
Since Gianky was first to link it up, he is on the plate!
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and I for one would love to have one parked outside my house :)
I could not agree more ! What a beautiful machine !
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Since Gianki seems offline, I am just going to declare this an open floor and pop another very beautiful plane up here:
(and yes, it's been up before, but this pic was too pretty not to post)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/8rtxyj3uh/1guess.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That's the Armstrong Whitworth A.W.52.
And I should have 24 hours before I'm declared MIA! :D ;)
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I should have 24 hours before I'm declared MIA! :D ;)
We're old men, we've got no time to lose, god knows whether we're still alive 24 hours later ]read2[ ]sleepy2[ ]sunny[ ]coffee[ ]smileinbox[
That's the Armstrong Whitworth A.W.52.
Let's pay back Piet in kind.
I say "that's right!" and give the baton to you, over Piet's head 8) :P
But remember: Be quick. We're old farts.
Cheers!
Mike
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That's the Armstrong Whitworth A.W.52.
And I should have 24 hours before I'm declared MIA! :D ;)
Mike is accurate about us being old men lol. Every second counts!
But Gianky, yes the baton is yours of course! :)
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I hope I didn't make you ol' farts wait too long!
Here it is!
(https://s9.postimg.cc/ylqv4f7rz/Is_that_a_plane.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I hope I didn't make you ol' farts wait too long!
Yes, we are all dead now, thank you for asking :D
Awesome photo btw, I am sure some people are going to scratch their heads at this one. I have a pic of this thing taxing in the lake. Pity it's propeller broke before it could take off. Or perhaps, that is what saved the pilot's live lol :D I will not say what it is, lest I rob some avid detectives of the joy of discovery.
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I hope I didn't make you ol' farts wait too long!
Here it is!
Good side of being old is that you know a lot.
Bad side of being old is that you can't remember any of it.
I have seen this picture before, but I can't remember when and where.
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Mobile sculpture by Alexander Calder?
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Good side of being old is that you know a lot.
Bad side of being old is that you can't remember any of it.
I'd say that's bliss! ;D ;D ;D
Mobile sculpture by Alexander Calder?
Hmmmmmaybe! ;)
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I imagine myself sitting under an umbrella on the shore of a river with a cocktail in my right hand and a cigar in my left, telling my wife, 'darling', it would be high time to undertake tomorrow an excursion into the neighbouring mountains by bike, with the car with the picknick basket following us from due distance.
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Getting Old is not for sizzies :P
Benno
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I imagine myself sitting under an umbrella on the shore of a river with a cocktail in my right hand and a cigar in my left, telling my wife, 'darling', it would be high time to undertake tomorrow an excursion into the neighbouring mountains by bike, with the car with the picknick basket following us from due distance.
Which is very close to what I thought when i saw the picture!
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Now that this clearly is no F-35 by it's origin and category, it's clear that it's got to be an NH90 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHIndustries_NH90).
Cheers!
Mike
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Now that this clearly is no F-35 by it's origin and category, it's clear that it's got to be an NH90 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHIndustries_NH90).
I dont think so. The cargo ramp seems different :D
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The closest thing thath I can find is the Lee Richards annular monoplane. :(
I not find anything than old as it seems, with such a large engine and floats. :-|
Any clue to not let the thread die? ::(
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The closest thing thath I can find is the Lee Richards annular monoplane. :(
Maybe they did an annular...biplane ? :-|
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I am sure some people are going to scratch their heads at this one.
Thanks, I can't even make out what type of flying machine it is (if any).
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I know what this is, but let's see who else gets it.
Hint: The one who made this plane was not as crazy as it looks, in fact the plane holds some brilliant solutions to engineering problems for this kind of planes at that time. Nevertheless, it never flew. If you need a timeframe, it's past WW1.
Cheers!
Mike
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Awesome photo btw, I am sure some people are going to scratch their heads at this one. I have a pic of this thing taxing in the lake. Pity it's propeller broke before it could take off. Or perhaps, that is what saved the pilot's live lol :D I will not say what it is, lest I rob some avid detectives of the joy of discovery.
I know what this is, but let's see who else gets it.
Hint: The one who made this plane was not as crazy as it looks, in fact the plane holds some brilliant solutions to engineering problems for this kind of planes at that time. Nevertheless, it never flew. If you need a timeframe, it's past WW1.
We must co-ordinate the torturing :)
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I never read before post you know 8) :P ]clown[
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It's the Flying Bedstead!
Cheers edc1
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Can we assume that 'it' happenned in Italy ? Something in the background makes me think of it.
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Can we assume that 'it' happenned in Italy ? Something in the background makes me think of it.
Yes, you can. It's the Lake of Como and, as the tortureres pointed out, it was 1921 (November 21st, IIRC), and the machine floated at high speed on the lake, but the floats got flooded and the propeller touched the water and broke, ending the story of this strange flying machine.
Awesome photo btw, I am sure some people are going to scratch their heads at this one. I have a pic of this thing taxing in the lake. Pity it's propeller broke before it could take off. Or perhaps, that is what saved the pilot's live lol :D I will not say what it is, lest I rob some avid detectives of the joy of discovery.
I know what this is, but let's see who else gets it.
Hint: The one who made this plane was not as crazy as it looks, in fact the plane holds some brilliant solutions to engineering problems for this kind of planes at that time. Nevertheless, it never flew. If you need a timeframe, it's past WW1.
We must co-ordinate the torturing :)
Old, but not less bastards inside! ;D
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Bastards. Seems it's impossible to find this [what?] on the net unless you apply Italian search terms. I don't understand how this thing was meant to work, and therefore I can't tell whether it's an airplane, a hydroplane, a helicopter, a helioplane, or an ornithopter.
Anyway, it's Giuseppe Somalvico's S.1 'David'. Now it's up to Gianky to explain us in detail what the heck it is and how it worked (or how it did not work). Cheers ;D
(https://s14.postimg.cc/k08g6p79t/IMG_6979_e2a.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Raise your hand those who think that it is not a plane! ;D
(https://s9.postimg.cc/l8q0qvpz3/excursi-n-en-aerodeslizador-por-los-everglades-de-florida-y-pase.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Flying boat
(https://s9.postimg.cc/9leceuzdr/Flyveb_d-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5p10ivee3/)
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During the First World War, engineer Giuseppe Somalvico developed a plane with a rotating wing, patented it on September 8, 1917. Immediately after the war, this respected graduate from Como, who had a technical studio at Volta Street, 50, tried his hand at building a curious seaplane, whose concept was based on the patents mentioned above and was completely new. Without any public or private financial support, Somalvico, driven by great passion, took on the enormous costs necessary to meet the possibility of building a prototype, giving it all his property and all the means of his family. he christened his car, calling it the Somalvico So.1 "David".
It was a seaplane biplane, which even at first glance was extremely strange: the wings were made of two round surfaces placed above and below the fuselage. These surfaces were circles with central holes suspended from a cardanic suspension, rotating in opposite directions with a variable frequency. The innovation in the form of a rotational motion of the wings was supposed to perform the function of dynamic equilibrium.
The wings were connected to each other by a vertical shaft of two parts rotating in opposite directions by means of two bevel gears. Thanks to the sphero-cardanic suspension, it was possible to fix the change in the angle of attack from 0 ° to 9 °. According to Somalviko, the change in the frequency of the leading edge of the circular wing made the elevator wheels unnecessary, leaving only the tail fin stabilizer. The wings, instead of being fixed to the rest of the aircraft, were located on ball bearings and the rest of the fuselage could move around the central shaft. According to the intentions of the inventor, this system was supposed to perform automatic stabilization of the aircraft in flight due to simultaneous action of centripetal and centrifugal forces. In addition, according to him, in case of loss of the balance of the machine, it will be enough to return the aircraft in the flight line by rotating the fuselage around the central axis. In practice, by this decision, Somalvik thought to solve the problems of transverse and longitudinal automatic equilibrium. The momentary stability of the aircraft and the change in the angle of attack of the whole system of wings were to advantageously replace the ailerons on the corners, while retaining the horizontal planes. Wings were fastened with metal rods made of welded steel pipes, with a double linen coating and painted in several layers of enamel. The fuselage and tail unit were made with the same materials. In the cockpit, which did not differ from conventional aircraft, the pilot could change the trim with a flywheel that simultaneously controlled the elevator and the position of the ring stabilizer, which served to support the wings during the rotation. The steering wheels were controlled by a pedal. Tail empennage two-kilo, ovoid in shape.
During the First World War, engineer Giuseppe Somalvico developed a plane with a rotating wing, patented it on September 8, 1917. Immediately after the war, this respected graduate from Como, who had a technical studio at Volta Street, 50, tried his hand at building a curious seaplane, whose concept was based on the patents mentioned above and was completely new. Without any public or private financial support, Somalvico, driven by great passion, took on the enormous costs necessary to meet the possibility of building a prototype, giving it all his property and all the means of his family. he christened his car, calling it the Somalvico So.1 "David".
It was a seaplane biplane, which even at first glance was extremely strange: the wings were made of two round surfaces placed above and below the fuselage. These surfaces were circles with central holes suspended from a cardanic suspension, rotating in opposite directions with a variable frequency. The innovation in the form of a rotational motion of the wings was supposed to perform the function of dynamic equilibrium.
The wings were connected to each other by a vertical shaft of two parts rotating in opposite directions by means of two bevel gears. Thanks to the sphero-cardanic suspension, it was possible to fix the change in the angle of attack from 0 ° to 9 °. According to Somalviko, the change in the frequency of the leading edge of the circular wing made the elevator wheels unnecessary, leaving only the tail fin stabilizer. The wings, instead of being fixed to the rest of the aircraft, were located on ball bearings and the rest of the fuselage could move around the central shaft. According to the intentions of the inventor, this system was supposed to perform automatic stabilization of the aircraft in flight due to simultaneous action of centripetal and centrifugal forces. In addition, according to him, in case of loss of the balance of the machine, it will be enough to return the aircraft in the flight line by rotating the fuselage around the central axis. In practice, by this decision, Somalvik thought to solve the problems of transverse and longitudinal automatic equilibrium. The momentary stability of the aircraft and the change in the angle of attack of the whole system of wings were to advantageously replace the ailerons on the corners, while retaining the horizontal planes. Wings were fastened with metal rods made of welded steel pipes, with a double linen coating and painted in several layers of enamel. The fuselage and tail unit were made with the same materials. In the cockpit, which did not differ from conventional aircraft, the pilot could change the trim with a flywheel that simultaneously controlled the elevator and the position of the ring stabilizer, which served to support the wings during the rotation. The steering wheels were controlled by a pedal. Tail empennage two-kilo, ovoid in shape.
As far as we can judge, further flight attempts have not been made. Given the economic difficulties that the designer had, it was likely that the seaplane was dismantled to get anything, and the engine was sold. In a pamphlet entitled "Designing and constructing an airplane, a device of a heavy category," printed at his own expense in 1929, engineer Somalviko, in addition to confirming the validity of his seaplane and his inspirational concept, put forward a new version with a 360-hp chassis, screws and with a small auxiliary engine of 20 hp, designed to implement the movement of the rotation of the wings. Somalviko described it as
"Interrupted in-flight Eliaplane with supported surfaces rotating in the support state, not blocked, separate from the rest of the device and neutral with respect to the direction of travel."
The brochure concluded with a statement that was both an indictment and the last pathetic request for help.
"In view of obvious technical, financial and social reasons, the state should study the experience of launching an airplane launched by an individual with heroic and tireless victims, in order to show new aerodynamic laws in the interests of safety and experimental flight practice, and in the interests of science . "
As a curiosity, it can be recalled that Corriere della Sera on November 22, 1927 reprinted an article from the authoritative British newspaper The Times, which several days earlier reported literally the following:
"The Times reports that the project of a new airplane with round wings, developed by the Italian Vittorio Isacco, was acquired by the British Ministry of Aviation, which will build a sample for the experiment."
The prototype, which Isakko called elikogiro was actually built in the Cowes in the shops of the Saunders plant, was tested, but there was no follow-up. There is no doubt that engineer Somalviko, two days after the publication of the above-mentioned note in Corriere della Sera, defended the property of his research and experiments. in L'Ambrosiano on November 24, 1927, current disputes were considered:
"An engineer from Como defends the invention of an Eliaplane.Some Italian newspapers, getting the news of the Times, let him know that the Italian Vittorio Isakko was ready to sell to the British Ministry of Aviation a project for the construction of a new type of aircraft with rotating wings.The engineer, Professor Giuseppe Somalvico writes a letter from the province of Como, in which he defends his priority in constructing in his own way and at his own expense an aircraft with rotating wings, solving the problem of a fixed and built-in wing (as is practiced in the seg- ments day airplanes) - in the wing simple and stably supported and rotating with variable frequency with the help of a sphero-cardanic suspension coming from the gondola and, therefore, neutral with respect to the direction of movement and free from slipping. During the construction of the Elikoplan, the patent received by Somalviko on September 8 1917 was significantly improved. "
So.1 "David" is a rarity from past times and represents a unique and very personal attempt by engineer Somalviko to enter the aviation industry. The daughter told me that her father, economically ruined and deeply saddened, refused to take an interest in aviation.
But something of the old passion for flying remained in the family and his son Giuseppe was instilled with a volunteer pilot in Spain in the ranks of the Legionary Aviation (Aviazione Legionaria), shot down on the front by Santander on August 17, 1937, earning a silver medal in memory of him.
Specifications of Somalvico So.1 "David" are not known.
Editor's note: This article is an excerpt from the book "Strange cars in the history of aviation" Volume 2 ("Macchine Bizzarre nella storia dell'aviazione" Vol. 2), the nearest publication of the publishing house Olympia (Editoriale Olimpia).
Although designed prior to the competition of the Royal Navy (patent September 8, 1917), the So. 1 "David" helicopter built by Como-based engineer Giuseppe Somalvico deserves a nod. The aircraft, which was also at home on the water, had two circular wings placed both atop and below the cockpit and rotated by an engine that also drove a standard two-bladed pusher propeller. While presenting some brilliant solutions for transverse and longitudinal stability, the craft was never able to take-off, due to the propeller breaking up during the craft's first test (24 October 1921) and which was followed by Somavico having a financial meltdown, a striking analogy between the fate of this Lake Como-based designer and that of some other Italian helicopter pioneers.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Falternathistory.org.ua%2Fgidrosamolet-somalviko-lyubopytnaya-mashina-20-kh-godov-s-vrashchayushchimisya-krylyami
http://historylink101.com/bw/e_plane/early/slides/IMG_6979_e2a.html
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57702&page=2
(https://s18.postimg.cc/kpumx6bx5/SOMALVICO-01-640x829.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kd38qztn9/)
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Thanks, CirX, if I understand correctly, it was a sort of flying gyroscope, but I still don't grasp where the lift came from and how banking/turning was meant to be possible. Anyway, as a patent exists somewhere, it would be interesting if an RC modeller rebuilt it in smaller scale as a proof of concept just for curiosity.
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And?!?! o_O
what plane is the next riddle! o_O
They are going to drive me crazy! ;D
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Thanks, CirX, if I understand correctly, it was a sort of flying gyroscope, but I still don't grasp where the lift came from and how banking/turning was meant to be possible. Anyway, as a patent exists somewhere, it would be interesting if an RC modeller rebuilt it in smaller scale as a proof of concept just for curiosity.
Maybe it is the secret to many things....perhaps RC and real builders HAVE tried, and have disappeared... :o
Perhaps if you build something like this, men in black suits will visit you..... :-X
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CirX, thanks for saving me from a lot of explanations! ;)
Sniperton, great work, your turn now!
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Thanks, Gianky, I hope this one will be less torturing.
Beware, I want us to be educated, and beyond the solution I also expect some story.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/j44j6pvwf/quest180410.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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You mean some story about how you doctored the image of a Campini Caproni?
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Nice catch Gianky. And nice photoshop work Snip.
(https://s18.postimg.cc/osde77c7d/Testing_the_Campini_Caproni.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Well, that fuselage is kind of unmistakable for an Italian who's an aviation enthusiast. ;)
Although I have to admit, photoshop was so good that Sniperton had me wondering if the German had created some Frankenplane after the Armistice! ;D
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Is the rear half from That DB Spit?
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It is. CJ+ZY is the "Schmittfire".
Cheers!
Mike
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The photoshop work was not made by me. And honestly, I myself was fooled by it. I only knew I had never seen such a bird, but shame as it is, I was not sure the picture was fake. As Gianky put it, I too 'wondered if the German had created some Frankenplane after the Armistice'. Anyway, the baton goes back to Gianky. ;D
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Alright! How about we stick with rotors and experimental rigs? ;D
(https://s9.postimg.cc/fyr0zff27/Mistery_rotorcraft.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I know, I know, I know!!! 8)
This is for our german Luftwaffe.
We're currently searching for a replacement of the old CH-53G helicopters, which should be phased out in the 2019/2020.
Sikorsky offered the CH-53K "King Stallion", and Boeing the CH-47F "Chinook" Block II.
Now the CH-47G can carry only 8.7 tons of load (10.something with newer rotor blades yet to be certified), whereas the CH-53K carries an impressive 16+ tons.
This picture clearly shows Boeing's attempt to strip down the Chinook to fulfill Germany's request for more external load capacity.
CH-47G ("G for Germany"), no doubt. Thanks for the baton 8)
Cheers!
Mike
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You're correct, Mike, go right ahead!
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]clown[
I'll leave the baton right here on the table for the next best guess to pick it up 8)
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;D ;D ;D
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Keyword: Experimental
This must be a Filper Research Corporation test rig. I haven't been able to find an actual name for this contraption.
Since it is as old as CH-53 and CH-47 it will probably not make it into the Luftwaffe. (New toys are so expensive, so you never know)
Does show a certain similarity to this:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/shhrxftdb/Filper.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Nice job, LameHawk, that's exactly what it was: the Filper Beta test rig.
I took the picture from this site:
https://www.klassiker-der-luftfahrt.de/geschichte/flugzeuge/leichthubschrauber-filper-beta-200-konstruktion-und-finanzierung/488128?seite=3 (no, I don't understand German! :D ... and it's amazing how simply flipping an image confounds Google and Tineye!)
And here's Wikipedia page on the Beta series:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filper_Research_Beta
The machine you posted is the Beta 200 prototype.
The baton is yours, LameHawk!
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Thank you.
You are right. Google is easily confused by flipping the picture. It's not difficult however to reverse the picture!
I didn't do that. Instead it was enough to search for "twin rotor experimental"
Those vertical things on the rotorblades are a bit unusual. They must be what is called flybars or stabilizer bars, normally seen on twin bladed helicopters. So when I found the Filper Beta 200, I was pretty sure I was on the right track.
Anyway, what's this little thing:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/tin2jjqxb/SASQuiz40.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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reminds me of the bf-108, but only the tail part :)
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It's a Latvian light two-seater, the VEF Irbitis I-12.
http://latvianaviation.com/index.php?en/content/airforce/LAF_VEF_I-12.ssi
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Very good, Sniper. ;D
You again
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Not me again :P
Open house
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OK I'm in...
(http://www.rc-sim.de/wbb3/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=21384&h=b43c3b614e6f8beb41bba4730d4a5e8eb17d7d0e)
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Bigger picture for not so good eyes, please?
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I see you are flying RealFlight. Very good!
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I see you are flying RealFlight. Very good!
Actually that's Aerofly5. similar levels of detail though.
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The thread is dying. ::(
respecting the rules, I will consider it as an open round :o
Guess this! ;D
(https://s9.postimg.cc/42w436ie7/guess1704.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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A plane that never made it:
Silvansky I-220
https://en.valka.cz/topic/view/62656/Silvanskij-I-220 (https://en.valka.cz/topic/view/62656/Silvanskij-I-220)
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Yep!
correct as usual LameHawk! ;D
you turn now!
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Thank you loco.
Although just one detail, I believe this mighty airbrake exists on only one plane
(https://s9.postimg.cc/tivulf88f/SASQuiz41.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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OK I'm in...
Did we get an answer to this one yet? I might have missed it.
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An answer to a virtual freestyle brainfart between a Bleriot, Breguet and Hanriot monoplane?
Nope.
If that was an aircraft, we might have got an answer.
Since it isn't, it's just pointless.
Otherwise we could as well hand some wax crayon to our neighbour's daughter, give her 10 minutes and ask what it is here then.
Cheers!
Mike
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I'm sure it's a Handley Page Halifax B Mk III ;D
I remember having armed that landing gear in a plastic model 1/72.
was glue the oil radiator of bristol hercules engine a litle backwards and the wheels that were functionally retractable did not lock and model fell belly.
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I would have to agree with Loco as I have found the original picture:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/mitb4aoe3/255_BBD72-6311-47_CE-9_B28-_A9_E69_C474_A0_C.jpg)
Nice job Loco!
James
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I must admit that the coolest looking 'fax to me is always the early Mk I:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/cf4gxnve7/Handley_Page_Halifax_Mk_I_L7245_the_second_prototype_aircraft_at.jpg)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/jiccda8jj/Handley_Page_Halifax_Mk_I_L7245_the_second_prototype_aircraft_at.jpg)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/49meziuan/Handley_Page_Halifax_Mk_I_L7245_the_second_prototype_aircraft_at.jpg)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/49mezimkv/Handley_Page_Halifax_Mk_I_L7245_the_second_prototype_aircraft_in.jpg)
This cutaway shows the Mk II, the beauty of which is almost the same:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/5onzocq9p/85203067_o.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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We will continue waiting for the confirmation of LameHawk ]salut[
until tomorrow ;D
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Sorry - been away for a couple of days.
But of course Halifax is the only answer.
I also did Airfix's Halifax back in the sixties (god I'm old) , and once you've seen it, you don't forget the details.
Loco - you have it
(https://s7.postimg.cc/mxmnx6uzv/Screenshot_2018-04-20-20-21-33-01.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I must admit that the mk I has a lot of personality. And I really like planes with personality.
In general I don't think biplanes have much personality. They all look the same to me, as do many jet fighters of the fifties. Not to mention passenger planes.
Then there are the sexy ones like the Spitfire or the F-4.
Oh, I could go on like this....
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BTW P-51, you did find the actual picture I stole the detail from.
I usually get a lot of satisfaction from finding the picture!
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Good images LameHawk! :P
We must have armed the same... like this was mine (I guess it's still inside a box in the attic of my father's house) :-|
(https://s9.postimg.cc/ghps6foxb/Contents-_Halifax_B.MK.III-584.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Let's try this canary then ;D
(https://s9.postimg.cc/cy3ugpty7/guess1704d.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Guess this!
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This shouldn't be turned into the Plastix section, but this is how the poor thing looks like these days (you know the type who never throws anything out)
In the background my latest kit - the Panzerbücker. The concept is decidedly odd, but it is a beautiful little plane (a plane with personality!).
I suppose the F-5 in the picture just went for a close up - and he closed up!
(https://s9.postimg.cc/anez3zfxr/Halifax-01.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/n21r4bulb/Halifax-02.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Guessing it's a Navy Culver - TD2C?
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Although I have it as a cluver PQ-14, the navy renamed it T2D2C-1 and change the color of this target drone.
correct Mexchiwa! ;D
you turn!
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An answer to a virtual freestyle brainfart between a Bleriot, Breguet and Hanriot monoplane?
Nope.
If that was an aircraft, we might have got an answer.
Since it isn't, it's just pointless.
Otherwise we could as well hand some wax crayon to our neighbour's daughter, give her 10 minutes and ask what it is here then.
Cheers!
Mike
Actually I posted a picture from the Deutsches Museum of the same aircraft, but it was a bit too small.
It's not well known. (http://www.reaa.ru/yabbfiles/Attachments/vollmoeller1910.jpg)
Fer gawd's sake you think with all the German nationals here that someone would have recognized the 1910 Vollmoeller eindekker, Thank goodness is wasn't the 1910 Grade Eindekker eh?
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Here's one: (https://s7.postimg.cc/jnqtyl5wb/xplane6.jpg)
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Interesting plane Unca, I apologize for my previous comment.
@Mexchiwa: Looks french. The engines nacelles definitely remind you of the Gnome Rhône 14M.
Cheers!
Mike
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Here is the cockpit
(https://s9.postimg.cc/4mre143dr/image.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Not going to answer this, as I did so not long ago in another quiz
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Storebror - it's French (wheee!), and the engines are 14Rs...
Lamehawk - most photos involving this thing were from the inside out...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNCASE_SE-1010
https://www.baaa-acro.com/crash/crash-sud-est-se1010-carces-6-killed
Looks like it didn't have much luck.
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Yessir, it's all yours now
Reminds me of a French Rainbow, though not as high-performance, of course
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Would have been surely harder without the old farts' pointers! Cheers to you! ;D
Here you go, guys!
(https://s9.postimg.cc/s7mpqw2z3/Mistery_airplane.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Try to name the exact variant, if you can, since it has a distinctive trait in respect to the more common one.
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A-400M?
*SCNR*
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Some early Sikorsky ?????????????
OldFart
Benno
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Sikorsky S-43B with twin rudders/fins, the Baby Clipper.
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Nice job, Fester, your turn!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-43
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Here's one I've wanted to build as an R/C flying scale model.
(https://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/9/6/9/a10904165-184-guessthisplane1.jpg)
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That's a tad easier.
The design clearly shows that it's a german "Taube" (pigeon) type.
In contrast to the Etrich (or Rumpler, the brand they were sold at) Taube, this one is a biplane - german "Doppeldecker".
Merge the two words and you get the "Doppeltaube" and that's just what it is:
The Doppeltaube, built by Albatros in 1911.
(https://s14.postimg.cc/irurqleg1/doppeltaube-1.jpg)
(https://s14.postimg.cc/6pzdwgcxd/doppeltaube-2.jpg)
(https://s14.postimg.cc/teokw120x/doppeltaube-3.jpg)
(https://s14.postimg.cc/e5yni9g29/doppeltaube-4.jpg)
(https://s14.postimg.cc/zfm9t4yxt/doppeltaube-1.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/ra47uzaot/)
Cheers!
Mike
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Gotta love those early airplanes with "morphing" wings: in the future, we'll go back to that.
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-successfully-tests-shape-changing-wing-for-next-generation-aviation
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Mike got it. ;)
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Not quite the multi-functionality of a F-35.....
But what a beautiful little aircraft :-*
Thanks Unca ;D
Cheers
Alfie
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Fester,
We share a similar dream.
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Mike got it. ;)
Thanks Unca, here we go with the next one:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/nnghinjzl/quest_2018-04-24.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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reconnaissance plane "Moran-Solnier" L parasol, produced in Sweden under the designation "Tulin" type D
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Absolutely correct Stiv, your turn 8)
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here we go with the next one:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/s19ze2orz/67478.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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mexchiwa mentioned the French Rainbow.
This IS the French Rainbow: Couzinet 70 'Arc en Ciel' III
BTW Aviafrance https://www.aviafrance.com/aviafrance1.php (https://www.aviafrance.com/aviafrance1.php) is the best reference on French aircraft
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your turn
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A little compact perhaps
(https://s9.postimg.cc/56c58rwxr/SASQuiz42.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Looks like a submarine borne folding floatplane
It's an Arado 231?
(http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Braas/12355L.jpg)
(http://www.histaviation.com/images/wwb_img5788.jpg)
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Fester,
We share a similar dream.
I like aesthetically weird looking planes, There's a Sommer Biplane from this era that I also think is really cool looking, as is the Handley-Page type G biplane.
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Got to Hand it to you.
You are of course right.
Your turn Fester
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(https://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/9/6/9/a10907828-108-guessthisplane2.jpg)
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Royal Aircraft Factory F.E.4 (prototype)
http://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Crafts/Craft29794.htm
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And sniperton has guessed this one. Bravo!
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Thanks, then let's have this elegant floatplane:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/68n8tzt1b/quest180425.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Blohm und Voss Ha-139
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It was pretty fast, James. Now I regret that I didn't opt for this one instead:
8)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/73edtg5lr/Floats_388x466.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Get ready to get stumped.......
(https://s7.postimg.cc/5h4nk426j/8_F4_E3344-6_EA1-41_CF-_BCD7-4_C98_AD134_A5_B.jpg)
James
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Anyone confused by James' language, see here:
https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/get-stumped.2098388/
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Seems old glider wings...
British or German?
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No, the wings are original to the craft.
You figure out the country, otherwise it would be too easy.
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In spite of my miserable memory I actually remembered the name of this one.
Shapley Kittiwake
Its Pobjoy engine is quite distinctive. And I guess the inspiration was the gull wing of the BV (which in my opinion is not a very elegant aircraft).
Seems like only two were made - both crashed
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Lame, you got it again!
The Ha-139 was not the inspiration actually. I’ve had that picture on standby for quite some time now.
Your turn Lame.
James
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And I guess the inspiration was the gull wing of the BV (which in my opinion is not a very elegant aircraft).
What? Gull wings with four engines? Not elegant? Name your friends for the duel! ;D
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Shouldn't be too difficult to find a couple of inept types.
And duellists should stand a mile apart, each armed with a brick (I think it was Mark Twain who had a suggestion along those lines) 8)
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Though it shouldn't be too difficult to find an elegant gull wing type (of aircraft) I'll let them lie for a while.
This one is not among the most elegant either (although better). What's this tree hugging type?
(https://s9.postimg.cc/kuwn18e7z/SASQuiz43.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Douglas B-19?
(I'm myopic, so one mile apart shall be fine not to hit a barn.)
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That's right: The Douglas XB-19.
Your turn, Sniper - I expect you'll find a nice elegant plane to please our collective eyes.
And as for eyesight, this is a self portrait (early type selfie)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/uw62nxe0f/ben_turpin.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Thanks, Hawk, let's have this easy one, a respectable piece of traditional British elegance.
:P
(https://s17.postimg.cc/4o665fhsf/quest180426.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Is that a Sikorsky S-58 that finally understood that having your wings flying all around the place is not a very sound way of flying?
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Airspeed AS.39 Fleet Shadower
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Close, but be more precise. Pay attention to the tail section and the landing gear/wing struts part.
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About as elegant as Short Seamew or Sturgeon. I quite agree o_O
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woops! My bad!
General Aircraft Fleet Shadower
Triple Tail, tricycle landing gear
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The tail threw me off. The later General Aircraft model had a single tail.
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Yep, it's astonishing how similar these two designs are. As if they were only variants of the same type.
Anyway, the baton is yours.
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A bit different now:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/83d5ovffv/E8937561-1_AF8-4_C99-8_B56-_F300_D67_CACA8.jpg)
James
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Still British though.
Supermarine Seagull
(https://s9.postimg.cc/5qnyjesbz/Seagull.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jx3pen36z/)
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Nice going Lame!
Your turn
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Now we are getting cute
(https://s9.postimg.cc/rfmung2bj/SASQuiz44.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Stits SA-2A Sky Baby
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Good grief :o - you are fast!
Back to you
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MWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Try this:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/yfto8ohep/E9_FA8920-9_EC4-4058-_AA40-_C1_A4323_FD640.jpg)
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I know this, but I don't tell 8)
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Great idea. Pasta and King Prawns today. Really nice, thanks for the suggestion James 8)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZeOlhRXUAAA8St.jpg)
Not my kind of food : total allergia !
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Me too!
I would die if I ate this
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Fine with me, means that I can have more :P
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Really sorry to hear about it. It's one of the most delicious things I ever ate along with bistecca fiorentina and Croatian-style sea bream roasted on live charcoal.
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I just got to try the Royal Reds last weekend. They are very popular here in Alabama.
(https://s19.postimg.cc/3p3iw2k8j/Royal_Red_Shrimp07.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
They are very good. :)
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Fine with me, means that I can have more :P
Prawns and all seafood are really not for me... prefer cheese, but has nothing to see with our mistery plane (unlike prawns...) !
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Looks like I should come to Alabama.
Royal Reds we can't get here for money.
Black Tiger is about €300 per kg.
So... don't bash me, but for the quick&dirty dinner, together with Spaghetti, tomate sauce and some fresh herbs, these had to do the trick yesterday:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/txn8m9axd/opt.2800w.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/54dollrwt/)
prefer cheese
Oh yeah! This one gets you plenty of free space for 24 hours at least, you'll be socially inacceptable 'cause you'll smell from every pore:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/66nv470gh/348-1315.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
Mike
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When I worked in China I went to a particular restaurant a lot because it did a prawn dish that was mind blowing.
The prawns were so huge you got one per person.
Can't find an image that is the same size, but the nearest I can see is this.
(https://s14.postimg.cc/ihulsyg6p/Giant-_Asian-_Tiger-_Prawn-_Threatens-_Texas-_Gulf-_Coast.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
That's a bit smaller than we used to get......... damn my mouth is watering :(
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Ah yes...
(https://s14.postimg.cc/b35a0lhgh/monster-hummer.jpg)
Fukushima crayfish as it seems.
Cheers!
Mike
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Stop pfaffing about and someone guess it already!
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Mike - since it seems like you have had Gamle Oles far lying around for the last two years, it must be something like Gamle Oles farfar - and quite deadly by now
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I've been thinking twice before posting the pic actually.
Don't want the US/French/UK guys to visit my house for a "chemical weapons location" cleaning job lol 8)
Although to be precise, it's a biological weapon - if at all.
Anyway. James is slowly getting annoyed so before this starts getting mean, back to the Prawns! 8)
Cheers!
Mike
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AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! NO MORE HINTS! JUST GUESS THE DAMN PLANE!
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F-35? ]dontknow[
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I hate you. ):(
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I know that plane. But I don't tell. :P
Seafood, seafood, shallala ]headbang[
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I hate you. ):(
I thought you hate Prawns? ]thefinger[
]cheers[
Mike
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MIKE! SNIPER!
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MIKE! SNIPER!
What's wrong with us? Anyone insisting on prawns has positively and constructively contributed to the solution of the quest. We did our best, what else could we do? :D
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What else could you do? WHAT ELSE COULD YOU DO?!!!!!!! You could give an answer to the question.
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It's a sea plane used for fishing for Prawns? :P
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You guys are an enigma. You are both helpful and unhelpful at exactly the same time. You are a conceptual nightmare.
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It's a sea plane used for fishing for Prawns? :P
I am dead laughing ! especially because... I am allergic to Prawns !
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It's shocking how many people here have prawn allergy. Really. I feel very lucky that I have none. I used to have hey-fever, which ruined all my holidays when I was a child, but as the only gain of ageing it's gone now. Proper allergy is more serious, it's not just a nuisance as hey-fever is. I wish you all all the best in the hope that one day you can enjoy prawns and seafood.
Gents, could anyone please type "prawn" and "airplane" into the search box of his browser, so that we could finally reconciliate James who's obviously going mad in case you fail to do that very soon.
James, relax, we're just enjoying our lives and irony, and I will be forever proud of being called a 'conceptual nightmare'. 8)
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I’m happy that you enjoy my suffering. ;D
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Suffering is no joy. Don't do that. Otherwise, we enjoy ourselves, not your suffering. Your suffering is no joy for us. So don't do that, unless you enjoy it. ;) :D
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Conceptual nightmare....see what I mean?
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For some reason it reminds me of an old joke.
"Hit me",the masochist said.
"No", the sadist said
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I love prawn ... but I'm allergic only to its peels, like most people allergies to mites. they have a common background even with the arachnids, there is a protein of their exoskeleton that is what caused the allergy.
So if you are allergic to prawn, just make sure you remove all the shell and you can enjoy the tasty meat.
It must be done in cold. ;)
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Gents, could you please type in fn "prawn" and fn "airplane" into that bloody search box?! I can't do that, since I declared I wouldn't do, but the sufferings of this young soul hit me very strong. Show mercy, be generous, give me the relief of not being guilty in a cruel scheme which was not devised by me.
@Lame: who's who? ;)
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(https://s17.postimg.cc/nduzi6chb/prawn_cover.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8unugrjcb/)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/5b1wqy8wv/db6fd42e2525df9487f3145221fa096b.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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LMFAO!!!!!!!
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How did you ever figure it out? :P
Thank you for ending my suffering Rogue.
It‘s your turn.
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Thanks P-51 and you're welcome but I'll pass . Open round
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For some inexplicable reason another old joke came to mind:
I don't suffer from persecution mania.
It's only something they all say because they are out to get me
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I‘m going to put aside my fears of renewed joking for a moment and present you guys with something SIMPLE so that there is no possible way to extend hilarity at my expense past the three page mark like last time.
So try this:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/tgurcv7iz/831_AE71_D-_F493-4_BA2-_B022-35457_A052_C07.jpg)
James
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Cheer up - we do love you :-*
Can't say these early types are a speciality.
Looks like a very early canard type...
French maybe
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Appears to be some sort of experimental Voisin Canard,
but the corrugation on the wing surface has me stumped.
Had to take a close look at first
to make sure it wasn't a Bleriot with the pilot facing backward for laughs.
Good one.. :)
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For the shape of the corrugated sheet wings, similar to the roofs of a warehouse, a civil engineer had something to do with it. :o
I bet a roasted duck for that! ;)
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Canard it was - and German
Reissner Ente
https://reissner-guben.org/stories/6-hans-j-reissner (https://reissner-guben.org/stories/6-hans-j-reissner)
This was the reason for thinking French:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/3sxf3c3jj/Les_3_canards.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4ig7fp42z/)
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Lame,
That is incorrect. Guess again please.
Hold on. Lame, you are technically correct. I was always taught that this was the furst Hugo Junkers design which is what threw me off of you guess. My bad.
Your turn.
James
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So...after the prawn, it's all about ducks now ? :D
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(https://s31.postimg.cc/xcwwf2bpn/1172.jpg)
Yummy ]thumbsup[
]cheers[
Mike
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Much better, especially Chinese way...
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What loco so precisely pointed out.
This is where I might have suggested a couple of duck dishes - like Grumman or Fw. But no.
"and now for something completely different"
What's this poor thing:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/8u59nqk4f/SASQuiz45.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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All 3 of these would be a challenge. Potez 63 on the left? Looks like a prewar French DH Drover (if there was such a thing...)
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I do not know which is the one that is in the foreground... but due to its state, seems that it would have resisted in the battle of the thermopylae. ;)
Mexchiwa, The one on the left in my opinion is a Potez 631... ;D
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The poor bird in front is a Spartan Cruiser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartan_Cruiser) II S/N 5, original British registration G-ACJO, yugoslavian registration YU-SAN, nickname "Ljubljana", operated by Aeroput (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroput) airline in Yugoslavia.
Some sources claim that the picture was from a crash landing, but that's not true.
YU-SAN and YU-SAO were used until mid-1938 on the Sušak line, when they were withdrawn in reserve with 2239 hours of flight (YU-SAN) and 2337 hours (YU-SAO).
The plane that crashed on July 15, 1936 during the departure from the Ljubljana Airport, was YU-SAP, the only Cruiser II which was licence-built by Zmaj aircraft company (https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/zmaj-aircraft.19359/) in Zemun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zemun).
On that occasion pilot Mikhail Jaroshenko, radio-telegraphist Tom Anusic and all 5 passengers who were in it, were missing.
At the beginning of the war, aircraft that failed to fly to warplanes were damaged or unprepared.
YU-SAO "Sušak" tried to fly but was damaged on that occasion.
"Lubljana" was captured and was at Zemun airport, where she waited for her further fate.
Some more pictures of YU-SAN:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/bnwobhwfz/ljubljana.jpg)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/84aqlpgvj/quest.jpg)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/u3h58x5fj/Spartan_Cruiser_YU-_SAN.jpg)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/xn32yqvan/YU-_SAN.jpg)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/5a7l8a1un/YU-_SAN_bitolj.jpg)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/ug8jf4ikf/YU-_SAN_kr_tenje.jpg)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/rm5e1mydr/yu-san-spartan-cruiser-ii-yasig-630.jpg)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/ied5kxz1b/YU-_SANZemundump1941.jpg)
(https://s17.postimg.cc/w81ia0erz/zemun-dump-1941.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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Hey Big Brother - a very fine answer.
Actually I don't much like aircraft cemetery pictures. They are kind of depressing. The waste!
And I hadn't thought about the Drover likeness - but yes, it is quite true . ;D
So Mike - a well deserved cigar
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Thanks LameHawk 8)
This is probably not too hard, albeit not quite obvious at first glance:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/o96c6rej3/quest_2018-04-30.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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Heinkel He 111G-3, Werk # 1884
Here is the same picture from behind:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/86uqipz9n/BC20_F440-665_E-471_A-9_FDE-1_A1_CBA1576_BA.jpg)
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Just about to say 'Augsburg'
- and if you understand Swedish. http://lae.blogg.se/2017/november/heinkeln-som-skots-ner-vid-viken-1944.html (http://lae.blogg.se/2017/november/heinkeln-som-skots-ner-vid-viken-1944.html)
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Thats actually in Copenhagen
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Seems like just south of the small town of Køge, about 30 km south-west of Copenhagen (My home turf as it is)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/eoll6o0xr/Sj_lland.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hmm interesting
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Heinkel He 111G-3
That's correct.
Werk # 1884
Here is the same picture from behind:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/86uqipz9n/BC20_F440-665_E-471_A-9_FDE-1_A1_CBA1576_BA.jpg)
That's incorrect.
It's plain to see that it's a different plane, different location.
The only thing I have shopped out was the Balkenkreuz.
Your plane shows two stripes which are not there on the quest plane.
Furthermore the quest plane obviously is lying on a road, which is not the case for #1884.
Propellor positions differ too.
Last but not least, you can see a building which would have been visible on your tail image if it would have been the same plane.
Actually the plane is WerkNr. 1885 (really! Right the next serial!).
The crash happened at BFS 3 (Blindflugschule, blind flying school) in Neukuhren on 25 January 1942.
Because of engine failure, the plane couldn't gain height on takeoff.
So... even though the details were incorrect, the baton goes to you James for identifying the plane type correctly.
Cheers!
Mike
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Damn, one werke nummer off!
Oh well,
Try this then:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/dnhzqoxez/1_F33_AE6_A-6160-49_AF-9_CC8-4_C1061_E5_A442.jpg)
James
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1/72?
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B-21 LRS-B. No doubt about it.
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Careful - I'm not sure james has recovered entirely yet ;)
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He had to swallow an RS-82 of mine on short distance yesterday, so maybe you're right LH 8)
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You mean you actually shot him down with an RS-82?
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That is correct Lame, he absolutely did. :P
May I also add that I was on HIS OWN TEAM!
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:D :D :D
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You said something to the effect of "ease my pain" James, maybe I misunderstood 8)
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Perhaps
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To reiterate what quest it is:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/dnhzqoxez/1_F33_AE6_A-6160-49_AF-9_CC8-4_C1061_E5_A442.jpg)
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It's obviously a variant of the Lockheed Constellation.
Glazed nose and a navigator dome implies a bomber variant. No such was actually ever built, but since the photo is of a model that doesn't matter.
The only planned bomber variant of the Constellation was the B-30, but AFAIK it was supposed to get a new (wider) fuselage. The model (to me at least) appears to have the standard Connie fuselage.
This was the mockup / scale model of the proposed and unbuilt XB-30:
(http://www.anigrand.com/images/items/AA4030_XB-30/AA4030_XB-30_real_1.gif)
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Radoye you sunovabitch!
That is absolutely correct! It is an XB-30 variant.
Good job!
Your turn!
James
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OK this shouldn't be too hard:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/59pbzvcvv/guesswhat.jpg)
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A bear patrol at the precise moment when is hit by an inflatable SA missile, fired from Eskimo igloo, propelled by farts of a family and they 24 siberian husky dogs ;D
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Avro Canada CF-100 Canuck
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Avro Canada CF-100 Canuck
That's what it is. Your turn.
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This one might be a little difficult so apologies in advance.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/6gzh6meof/25_A7_E8_DE-8_D00-461_D-_A33_C-_E3537_EB5_D429.jpg)
James
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How accurate is your model James? :-| o_O
if it is of the ilk of the things that you are posting in this thread of the plastix section:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,58581.0.html
we are lost. ;)
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It is rather accurate.
This is a scale R/C model of a very real aircraft. When I built this plane I was given a lot of attention at the club field for how accurate it is.
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Not exactly my line either, so a wild guess: Airphibian
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Something Bellanca?
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I’ll give you the year it first flew.
1938
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I can only guess because the only unusual feature is the tubular structure behind the windshield. :-[
I'm going to risk something very obvious, but for something you have to start.
Piper J3 Cub :P
In order to be more precise we should have at least some amount of alar placed, or the confirmation that does not have them.
Air intakes on the hood and know if the 4 spots on the left side of the nose belong to the model or the table. o_O
Could you put the wings, the engine and take the same picture again? :-|
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Sure,
But it is missing the struts at the moment.
Here are three:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/cph8zf22j/B1_F37_B38-777_E-4_A30-9638-_EEF17888_EAE5.jpg)
(https://s7.postimg.cc/orcmtk3l7/DA64582_D-99_C6-4_FE9-_B036-_D815314_D613_C.jpg)
(https://s7.postimg.cc/4wql7f8y3/EC0_B4514-_ADD8-4291-996_E-_F40_E7305_FEB9.jpg)
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James -
I'm probably wrong but it looks a like an RWD 5 of some configuration.
Nice model..would like to see it fly. :)
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Piper PA-15, 16, 17?
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Not a Piper and not an RWD.
I will give you another couple hints;
The previous variant of this plane was at one point called “the worlds most beautiful plane”
Only 12 were built of this version
It was powered by a Menasco C-4 inline
There is one in the Experimental Aircraft Association‘s museum.
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Hmmmm.... too many hints, now! :)
Rearwin 6000M 'Speedster'
https://www.eaa.org/en/eaa-museum/museum-collection/aircraft-collection-folder/1938-rearwin-6000m-speedster---n20741
https://www.google.it/search?hl=en&biw=1920&bih=968&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=-lLqWoWSNIjzkwXW7qngAQ&q=Rearwin+6000M+%27Speedster%27&oq=Rearwin+6000M+%27Speedster%27&gs_l=psy-ab.12...22263.22263.0.23532.1.1.0.0.0.0.142.142.0j1.1.0....0...1c.2.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.ooXs0nFB1_U
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Absolutely right Gianky!
Your turn!
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Here you are!
(https://s9.postimg.cc/uuxk4gdv3/Wut.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I hope you guys haven't already had it!
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PZL Belphegor
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I wanna know the name of the other manifacturer and the designation of the plane!*
You guys are too fast to be old farts!!! ::( ::( ::(
*Joking, it's right airplane, of course, so go ahead, James.
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That is the most Il-2 plane ever built. A jet biplane.....hmmmm
This one should be very simple:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/uqvucvv8b/0_CE9_AFEF-34_C3-48_B7-9_C62-446_F9_B125120.jpg)
Enjoy!
James
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Pemberton-Billing PB 31 - the most graceful quad twin ever built...
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(https://s7.postimg.cc/uqvucvv8b/0_CE9_AFEF-34_C3-48_B7-9_C62-446_F9_B125120.jpg)
Don't know why, but the first thing I thought of were these guys....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZmb2xc_LdQ
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I know right
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Pemberton-Billing PB 31 - the most graceful quad twin ever built...
Was it the only quad twin ever built? :p
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That is correct Mex
Your turn
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You mean.. that contraption is for real!?
Apparently for Zeppelin Interception.
How successful was this aircraft, James?
(https://s18.postimg.cc/5jxx30yzd/image.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Now for something more futuristic:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/ygrsupuzf/xplane7.jpg)
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Ani,
Only one was ever built and it is said that it possessed good flight characteristics but it did not meet the requirements for its role as an anti-zeppelin platform.
It was quite a strange aircraft with extremely strange wing planform. In side photos the extreme wing sweepback is fairly evident.
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Now for something more futuristic:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/ygrsupuzf/xplane7.jpg)
That is something.
As apparently it never flew and is not really meant to be identifyable, there's no need to dig any deeper.
In the same way, let me ask back what this is:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/f81wo2gp7/silly_quest.jpg)
Cheers!
Mike
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Mike, that's a wing!
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Winglet, I'd say
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Don't think it's a winglet -looks like it has control surfaces....
Anyway, Storebror doesn't know mine, anyone else have a guess? Like a lot of mine, it's French...
Doesn't have winglets, and it's not an F-35 (or Rafale...) but it does have lots of flying surfaces....
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Claude Chudzik CC-02?
(https://s14.postimg.cc/5axfzbha9/cc02.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Yessir - identifiable and in flight. Your turn - but in the meantime I’d like to figure out what Storebror posted. Vapor trail coming off the tip? Any clues?
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Ok, this should be pretty easy:
(https://s14.postimg.cc/8kup8gfy9/What_Is.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
And Mike: I daresay it's a vertical stabilizer.
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SAAB Draken
And Mike, is that a Boeing Sonic Cruiser?
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It is something.
Okay mex, it's actually a plane you've been referring to, but let me say that I don't quite follow the idea of raising the level of obfuscation by showing such little parts of already-hard-to-know planes that they go way beyond any means of identification other than excessive googling.
Might be just me, but I thought this thread was about guessing planes, not about googling possible candidates for small chunks of plastics, what-ifs and prototypes where it'd be hard enough to know them by their full picture.
Anyway if you deem it feasible... as I said, might be just me.
Cheers!
Mike
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SAAB Draken
Correct. Your turn.
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Try this:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/4uxv5gazv/9103_A45_F-_DD21-4_DD0-9_AF4-672432_DF69_FF.jpg)
James
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Try this:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/4uxv5gazv/9103_A45_F-_DD21-4_DD0-9_AF4-672432_DF69_FF.jpg)
James
HALBERSTADT D-V
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Its a D.IV but close enough.
Your turn Stiv!
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(https://s17.postimg.cc/bvktetldr/untitled.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Breguet Bre.4?
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Breguet Bre.4?
no
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The roundels are russian, the design looks like Voisin, so this should be of the Voisin III family.
Could be an "L" or "LB" type Voisin (LA or LA S as the french called them), hard to tell since the gun isn't identifyable.
Cheers!
Mike
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The roundels are russian, the design looks like Voisin, so this should be of the Voisin III family.
Could be an "L" or "LB" type Voisin (LA or LA S as the french called them), hard to tell since the gun isn't identifyable.
Cheers!
Mike
Bravo! Your turn.
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Thanks stiv!
This is not meant to be excessively hard to solve, but I thought that the picture itself is interesting enough to make it into this quest.
So... what is it?
(https://s18.postimg.cc/5bbex8yt5/quest_2018-05-07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hpy6xkqb9/)
Cheers!
Mike
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I see you took our conversation to heart.
It‘s an He 111Z
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Sure I did James, and of course you're absolutely right.
Still dreamin' of that pair of Jugs 8)
Your turn!
]cheers[
Mike
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Alright then, try this:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/dtxmgh3e3/14076_BD2-_D06_A-47_E4-9_ADD-5_F59_DF2_EFE48.jpg)
James
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DC-5 prototype.
(https://s9.postimg.cc/iq7rx41sv/quest180507.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3u98piqe3/)
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You are ruining many of the ones I have stored in my file. o_O
This was being macerated for more than a year ::( ::( ::(
(https://s9.postimg.cc/qukhfwqjz/DC-5_Japan.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Me? :-[
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No Sniperton, He was talking to me. Youre safe for now.
By the way, it is your turn.
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To both! :o
for posting it ... and for guess it before I see it! ;) ;D
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Sorry, loco, I hope this time you can see it before someone else guesses it.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/gnqyfdjfj/quest180508.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/scuy3cae3/)
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F-35.
Sorry Loco.
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If I google for Luftwaffe F-35, I get "German Air Force chief told to stop talking about the F-35 or risk being fired". ;D
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Do not apologize guys, it's the price of being at the bottom of the world. 8)
As Mike's response on an F-35 was not discarded, I'm afraid of jumping forward. ;D
I thought that these vehicles were only "Russian´s things" but when I goglear ekranoplan redirected me to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_vehicle
It highlights only two countries that did these things before the 80 ': Soviet Union and Germany. I guess they are the only ones who dare to turn something that flies 30cm above water o_O
Is an RFB X-114 by Alexander Lippisch
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It could fly well over 1m over the water, but your guess is correct, Loco.
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Thank you! ;D
let's go with one easy
guess this
(https://s31.postimg.cc/ke74msbh7/guess1704b.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Master Fighter?
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is not a Miles M.24 Master Fighter of 1940
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From after the war (the big one), and intended as a Harvard replacement. merlin engine, a couple of hundred built.
Boulton-Paul P.108 Balliol
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Yes LameHawk... was the 3 seat Balliol
you turn now ;D
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Indeed it was an easy one. I'm not sure this one is too difficult either
(https://s31.postimg.cc/s3wgbp2pn/SASQuiz46.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I'm sure know him, and because of you, LameHawk 8)
I think was looking for the nightmare of
an Aerodynamische Versuchsanstalt AVA AF-2 posted on this tread by you.
It was like a Storch Fischer but at the same time it was not. o_O
Was so complicated that I had extended search to all the split windshield airplanes where the edge of attack of the wing advances few inches forward from glases. :-[
This is cute and ordinary. ;)
Lets see if any other guy wanth guess. :-|
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De Havilland Puss Moth?
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I'm sure you have it James! ;D
is a De haviland DH.80A Puss Moth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Puss_Moth
Waiting LameHawk confirmation. ]salut[
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So sorry, loco, that you had to work so hard with the AVA ;D
That's what I enjoy the most: the hunt and the things you learn along the way.
http://www.goodall.com.au/australian-aviation/dh80/dh80.htm
You are of course both right, so James. You are at it again 8)
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Oh boy! Let the games begin!
Try this:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/8xh9ffrpb/964_A9_A3_B-9_A0_F-4_FD1-9994-_DFBB23_EAA994.jpg)
Have fun!
James
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Budd C-93 Conestoga?
http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/aircraft/c-93.htm
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Since these ladies are smiling they probably got shares in the iron ore industry
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That was fast.
A stainless steel transport. The DeLorean before the DeLorean.
Your turn Lame.
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No - not me.
Shakaali
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Stainless steel aircraft ... pioneer in things that are now a standard.
Anyway, it seems more logical this be in a sex shop than fly.
Maybe that's why the girls laugh ;D
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Woops, my bad!
Youre up Shakaali!
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Ok, here you go:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/ifhgyvp6n/Kuva.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Valmet Vinka
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Stainless steel aircraft ... pioneer in things that are now a standard.
Anyway, it seems more logical this be in a sex shop than fly.
Maybe that's why the girls laugh ;D
Is it the De Havilland Dildo?
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Valmet Vinka
No. It is not Valmet L-70 Vinka. Neither it is Valmet L-90 Redigo. But both are very close...
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Alright.
Let's try Valmet L-80 Turbo Vina.
Sort of averages out the 70 and the 90
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Correct!
Valmet L-80 Turbo-Vinha. Vinka upgraded with turboprop engine. Only one built, had only 15 operational hours and crashed killing test pilot Paavo Janhunen.
Later upgrade was L-90 Redigo.
Your turn, LameHawk :D
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Thank you.
What's this "Fliegerdenkmal"
(https://s7.postimg.cc/aeodwyt63/SASQuiz47.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Seversky P-43 Lancer
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P-43?
EDIT: gah, too late, didn't see it was solved already!
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Got ya!
The answer is no
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Reggiane Re-2002?
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Very close
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Re-2000
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That's right.
It's a Reggiane 2000 used for catapult tests
James, you are at it again
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That was just blind guessing, nothing to it really.
Here, try this:
Sorry if it is a small picture.
(https://s9.postimg.cc/nlzicrydn/28_B88_F3_F-4068-4_C75-_A689-_B17409_DACD3_C.jpg)
James
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I can in no way believe it was a blind guess.
More like an informed guess.
I've seen your plane before. American I think. Have to look for it
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Taking advantage of the fact that Mike still did not guess, and using the information provided by LameHawk, I risk that it is an early and manned prototype of the Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel. :P
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We already had this. See page #265.
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Damn, hold on.
Lets try another one,
Here:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/cuz2c8bkf/5_D566685-066_C-41_FF-_AE39-_AB2_A03_A022_F3.jpg)
Sorry about that guys,
James
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Apparently a what-if https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,34603.0.html
]cheers[
Mike
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I’m just gonna give it to you Mike to avoid the thread dying again.
Your turn.
James
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While we are waiting for Mike, would anyone like to guess what this plane is?
(https://s9.postimg.cc/tdkyzeqdb/5_B3_ACF80-1_E76-41_D0-_A35_E-_ED6_EE05_E1_DF8.jpg)
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That's a De Bruyere C1 James.
I’m just gonna give it to you Mike to avoid the thread dying again.
Sounds like there was something wrong with my guess?
Anyway, something easy in the meantime, guess this:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/wqzumkxkr/quest_2018-05-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dynzj016f/)
]cheers[
Mike
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Fouga Magister?
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No sorry, that is incorrect.
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Hmmmm... so, if not the Magister, it must be its Israeli son, the IAI Tzukit... right?
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/tzukit/Tzukit.html
EDIT: No, sorry, I didn't see the tailhook at first! I change my answer! It must be the CM 175 Zéphyr built as a trainer for the Aéronaval!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fouga_CM.175_Z%C3%A9phyr
(Tailhook and nose light give it away).
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You're right on your 2nd attempt Gianky, it's indeed the Zéphyr.
Your turn 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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Thanks, Mike!
Ok, knowing you guys, this is probably going to be too easy, but since I saw it a month or so ago and I found it cute, here is the next plane:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/rqul97mu3/20180420_104944.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Don't bother looking for the picture, I made it! ;)
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Looking at the windshield one knows that it is a De haviland, with a little search you can specify that it is a DH. 104 Dove.
Looking at the posters behind, you can reach the conclusion that it is in Germany. :o
I found it in Hamburg, but I think it's the same because the leak of engine oil. 8)
In your photo you can see that someone put some containers under these carefully.
Internet manages that someone who is in the ass of the world get a photo almost equal to an unpublished one of you.
it is a wonder! ;D
(https://s31.postimg.cc/3yzimdlcr/d-inka-ltu-de-havilland-dh104-dove_Planespotters_Net_643057_cca47.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/womej0pcn/)
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;D ;D ;D
Good job, Locopiston, yeah, it's the DH 104 Dove (the same exemple, of course!).
It wasn't in Hamburg, though, it was in Friedrichshafen for Aero 2018 (http://www.aero-expo.com/aero-en/index.php)! ;)
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Tanks! ;D
let´s try tis bird
(https://s31.postimg.cc/sw8ejqf3f/guess-175.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Guess this!
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B-28 Dragon. Mitchell's grandson
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I would say Kilo gets it but if you wanted to be specific, it is a :
North American Model NA-63 XB-28A Dragon High Altitude Medium Bomber.
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I would say Kilo gets it but if you wanted to be specific, it is a :
North American Model NA-63 XB-28A Dragon High Altitude Medium Bomber.
A B-28. Very cool.
Never saw one before.
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Yes is a North American Model NA-63 XB-28A Dragon High Altitude Medium Bomber. ;D
but B-28 is enough from my... ;)
You put me in a bind. :-[ :(
The first one (Kilo or James) to post an airplane stays with the baton :o
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Snooze of a lifetime. What's the plane in the foreground (or what's left of it)?
(https://scontent.ftsr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29340607_1795325237185771_8155789625453969408_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1e09792e529fc34debf7b4102599aac1&oe=5B96B32D)
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Japanese ?
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for me it's an A6M3 type 32 that gave it another name "Hamp"
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Correct! ;)
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Tanks Kilo! ;D
Let's go with a two for one because it's Friday :o
one easy and one to insult me. :P
guess these!
(https://s31.postimg.cc/c4aq5a4jf/guess1704a.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/ovowbs6ln/guess185a.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Well the first one is a Douglas XB-42 Mixmaster
The second is a Yakovlev Yak-25PB
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close but no cigar james!
yakolev yak-25PB yes! ;D
XB-42 mixmaster... barely. :-X
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Oh then the XB-43 Jetmaster
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yep James! ;D
have 2/2!
you are on again!
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He is on a roll ! 8) Great guess!
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How about a tough one?
(https://s9.postimg.cc/4347670v3/C0_C92484-35_CD-4_ADA-_B74_F-2951_F71107_F3.jpg)
James
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Gu-82?
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Nope
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Rather the first prototype of the Яценко И-28 me thinks:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/ukwv7jbd7/i28-1.gif) (https://postimg.cc/image/z6szfvww7/)
]cheers[
Mike
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Correct Mike!
It is in fact the Yatsenko I-28.
Your turn.
James
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Time for an easy silver barrel:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/7meed2njv/quest_2018-05-19.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Shenyang J-5?
Edit: Not J-5, rather J-6
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MiG-19 ... it can not be that easy.
Now surely I'm going to have to go crazy diving in pages in Cyrillic to know why it has that belly and its characteristic wing cannons are missing.
PD: is a beauty
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i have it!
(https://s31.postimg.cc/sgvc8kezv/Mi_G-19_P_SM-20_1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
MiG-19P SM20/1
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You got it loco, your turn 8)
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The search for that silver barrel was fun. ;D
Now let's go back to WW2.
guess this!
(https://s31.postimg.cc/5jmcobc4b/guess-195.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Homeless man’s P-40
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I do not think so, at least I have it with another name ;)
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Can we have a hint?
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If you look immediately behind the propeller, you will see some protuberances that only another very famous airplane of the same nationality has. :o
It it was designed to officiated as a trainer for that plane.
Incredibly, despite having a less powerful engine, achieved only 15km/h less than the famous fighter.
A less graceful variant is the one we finally know.
(https://s31.postimg.cc/wlknkb8sr/guess-hint.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Miles M.9 Kestrel
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good! you turn now james! ;D
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Here is an easy one:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/eo2zehm7z/77_DD63_BB-7_C66-4602-_B82_B-99957902_F71_A.jpg)
James
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yep is easy! ;D
(https://s31.postimg.cc/5brd5ynbv/SNCAC-nc900.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Because we have it on game! :P
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Right again Loco!
Your turn!
James
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tanks!
now a rare thing
Guess this!
(https://s31.postimg.cc/g54duop7v/guess-xxx_A.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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B-2 Stealth Bomber!
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no it is not a B-2 ... ;)
neither is Diana's ship from "V" :P
(https://s31.postimg.cc/yzi99ghkr/0022748357.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That's the Dyke Delta N71AW photographed at Sun 'n Fun 2014 in Lakeland, Florida.
(https://s31.postimg.cc/enjfqb14r/image.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/qpetkgpsr/13781000364_586182a440_k.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7x2ygvtef/)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/tjhyxwzor/13780960554_4b9ea083af_k.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qcnfeaf8n/)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/4dh0r2iyz/13780651233_a888975586_k.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bgow6ooef/)
]cheers[
Mike
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Of course mike! ;D
Those landing gear little doors, that do not close well, are adorable. :D
You have the baton!
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Thanks loco.
The baton will move on to the one naming the type of this plane right.
An extra cigar goes for the type of the photographing airplane.
(https://s31.postimg.cc/pgnq76kp7/quest_2018-05-22.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Looks like the Franken-Me-Spitfire.
MThe Spitfire Vb (serial EN830) that was later captured and fitted with a DB 605A-1 engine.
The photograph might have been taken from a Messerschmitt Bf 110.
I don´t know,
I can´t remember that far back.... it was a loooong time ago...in a galaxy far far away :D
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The photographed planes Looks like a Spanish Buchon... taken from the movie "The Battle Of Britain" ? Probably a Spanish built CASA 2.111 ?
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No Schmittfire and no Buchon, no cigar gentlemen :P
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I think someone has already answered
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg621312.html#msg621312
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg621344.html#msg621344
It would be difficult to know from where it was filmed
look through the miniatures previewing The Star of Africa on YouTube and I can not find that scene
maybe another movie
to film I would have used a Ju-52 to be able to see through its wide rectangular side windows, which in some types have a defensive MG-15
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But Spanish plane, or not ?
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I'll take a stab and say it's a Hispano HA-1109 with the CASA 2.111 as the photo plane.
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Hispano Aviación HA-1112-K1L and Ju-52
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Alright gentlemen, the baton goes to locopiston for correctly identifying the Hispano Aviación HA-1112-K1L.
Gaston and Rogue Pilot both get a cigar for identifying the photo plane.
This picture was taken from the dorsal gunner station of a spanish CASA 2.111.
]cheers[
Mike
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So they were a Jota and a Pedro... :-[
Mike had unveiled the incognita del Jota much earlier in this thread ... :o
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg621344.html#msg621344
Let's go with this refined batrachian:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/3nj2nk9t7/guess235.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Guess this!
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Looks stealthy - F-35?
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Partial point, since it is the same company but many years and mergers before. ;)
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Loco, what did we tell you about photoshopping.....
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They never told me anything about the photoshop... :-|
I just put a little color in the background. :-[
here is the original photo before putting color ;)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/w3lexduwr/guess235c.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Not really what I meant. I realize that this is an actual plane and not some conglomerate of two designs.
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Looks stealthy - F-35?
Yep, the very early prototype F-35 ;D
Crash landed after this photo was taken due to the extra weight of the rear passenger.
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It looks like a Mitsubishi and a Lockheed had a kid.
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(https://s31.postimg.cc/grauuknaj/guess235e.png) (https://postimages.org/)
It is an American plane.
Serve in some countries. but this variant entered into combat only in China against the Japanese.
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Vultee V-12 also known as the AB-2
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Yes of course
Vultee, then Convair, then General Dynamics, then Lockheed Martin. :o
There is the lineage of the F-35 that reaches this plane, that's why the partial point for Mike. ;)
But as you correctly said the name the baton is for you James. ;D
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Alright,
Try this:
(https://s9.postimg.cc/477aow7hr/7_E293197-6_E18-484_C-_B055-5387_F06389_B4.jpg)
James
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> P51vsFw190 Whoa - I feel on top of the world - I was actually able to ID a plane posted by James ( A small victory, I know ) :)
Monsted-Vincent MV-1 Starflight
"has the distinction of being the only four-engined aircraft ever to be built in Louisiana. It was to be an executive/business aircraft, designed by former Lockheed designer Art Turner “to give businessmen the same dependability and flying range that airlines give to their passengers.”* The only Starflight flew for the first time in October 1948. Despite having four engines, the Starflight could only carry 5 passengers and the pilot. It had a range of 1,200 miles at 145 mph—frankly, making it a terrible aircraft for businessmen who are looking for speedy travel. There was little taste for the aircraft and the only copy ended up at the Wedell Williams Memorial Aviation Museum in Patterson, Louisiana, USA, where, in 1992, it was heavily damaged by Hurricane Andrew. The wreck was moved to a storage hangar, where in 2005, it was destroyed by Hurricane Rita!" ~ FLIGHT Magazine, January 1949.
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The front part of that aircraft reminds me of a Volkswagen Type 2 Van from the 1960s ;D
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Type_2
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> max_thehitman
the search thread - "experimental four engine pusher aircraft with front end and body like a bus or van"
but I saw a lot of other weird ones before I finally caught the MV-1. :)
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Ani,
Congrats my friend. I now pass you the ceremony baton. Wield it well.
James
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In an attempt to revive the thread, I will post this in Anitek‘s absence:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/wz88i8aoh/D1_DC592_B-_E6_C0-4_B03-_BD9_E-_A4424_E2_BB650.jpg)
James
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By the wings and rudder it looks like a piper arrow II
but the more stylized windshield and windows with the ghost of a dwarf inside make me doubt :-| :P
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Keep doubting.
This plane is not a Piper nor is it a Cessna.
I doubt any of you have ever heard of this company before.
Good luck.
James
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Looks a bit like a Socata TB-20.
A dream plane of my youth.
And if you ask me where the association is coming from: That plane was available for Flight Sim World (as long as it lasted).
]cheers[
Mike
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Quite right James - haven't heard of it before.
Nevertheless I found it. A fiberglass thing from '67
Windecker Eagle
Yes, no, maybe
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Lame,
You got it!
I would say “your turn” about now, but I’m not sure if Anitek will come back for his turn.
In the mean time though,
YOUR TURN!
James
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I’m not sure if Anitek will come back for his turn.
Too late. Anitek has missed his chance, the rules clearly say that after 24 hours, it's "open round", so your turn was the next turn, therefore now it's Lame's turn 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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Can't remember if this one's been on
(https://s15.postimg.cc/ox8n6svtn/SASQuiz48.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Jap with Merlin?!?!? o_O
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I think is Spanish. A mock up only, as many Spanish proyects.
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Hispano HS 50, derived I think from the Dewoitine D 600 - neither went beyond mockups
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yep is similar to the banner that is up right now! ;D ]laughing4]
(https://s33.postimg.cc/h5zb6hp4f/Cir_XBanners2016_750.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Mex - you are right :)
Your turn
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The only pics I have right now are misleading close-ups of obscure birds no one has ever heard of - open house
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*cue evil laugh
Try this!
(https://s22.postimg.cc/e1zjvgln5/B381420_C-77_BA-4006-_A1_F0-2_E2_C4252180_F.jpg)
Good luck.
James
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*cue evil laugh
Try this!
(https://s22.postimg.cc/e1zjvgln5/B381420_C-77_BA-4006-_A1_F0-2_E2_C4252180_F.jpg)
Good luck.
James
We're old men, we've got no time to lose, god knows whether we're still alive 24 hours later ]read2[ ]sleepy2[ ]sunny[ ]coffee[ ]smileinbox[
[snip!]
But remember: Be quick. We're old farts.
Cheers!
Mike
You might be old farts in here, but you surely have good eyes.... post bigger pictures, dang it, I'm short sighted!!!!
EDIT: oh, btw, it's a Curtiss Wright C-76 Caravan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss-Wright_C-76_Caravan
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Gianky,
That was a joke response to Mex’s post.
Good job anyway. Your turn.
James
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Ah, ok, sorry I missed that! :P
Anyway, here you are! Probably going to be easy, but...
(https://s33.postimg.cc/azuovex1r/Pippo.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Antonov Izdeliye (Handiwork) 181
Similar concept to the Custer Channel Wing aircraft built in the USA.
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Told ya! Too easy! :P
Your turn!
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If you made it easy, then I will make it impossible. :D
Behold! Perfection.......kinda.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/5fo0m285t/A27_D119_B-_E566-4_AEA-8299-_DBE7_E16_A5215.jpg)
James
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Surely you got it at the same moment as me, trying to solve Gianky's trivia 8)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg643943.html#msg643943
As always you ruin the things I have prepared to post. ::(
It is almost the same photo, but from an angle a few centimeters above. :o
People are exactly in the same position for what I think was a photographic production.
is a Seddon Myfly.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/c6zwfgk6n/seddon-myfly.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Correct Loco,
What are the chances that I figure out your quest too?
James
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Result of an explosion in a Hula Hoop factory?
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I believe as always, the possibilities are high... ;)
Anyway, let's go with this one.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/vqnbr73pr/guess305.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Guess this!
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In case it is difficult I leave this image of the 3 views. ;)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/ul6r8uxdr/Re-2002--_P47.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Another clue is that I got it when I tried to solve the trivia of this thread three weeks ago ... here is the link.
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg646612.html#msg646612
None of the ones that are named there is :o
thank LameHawk ;D
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It's Hungarian, right? Heinkel related?
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Yep, it is.
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/wm23.html
Loco, if it's right, give it to Mex, wouldn't have guessed it without his answer.
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Looks like La-7 though.
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If Gianky's right and he passes it to me I've got nothing, so I'm prematurely declaring open house, if everything plays out as expected...
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Hmmm..... ;)
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Sorry for my delay... have a lot of work. :(
Lately the phrases of Mex are pretty sinister
something will be plotting
(https://s33.postimg.cc/o0dse5fkv/emperor.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
It is a Weiss Wm-23 a local development from the Heinkel he-112
had good performance but was abandoned to manufacture the Bf109G under license.
Like the Open Round was decree by Mexchiwa, the most correct thing is to give the baton to Gianky, who was also the one who named him correctly. ;D
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having passed the full day without posting, I proceed to comply with the rules.
Guess this!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/hs3j4pf6n/FMA-ia-58-_Pucar.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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Looks French...
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Sud Aviation SE-116 Voltigeur
Loco, You can't fool me that easily. :P
James
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Almost ... but if I deceive you ... 8)
the denomination is almost correct. ;)
This is more stylized and has something very important different
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Sud Aviation SE-117
With Turbomeca Bastan turboprops.
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yes! you are on now james! ;D
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Yay!
Just a friendly warning, this may be confusing.
Guess this:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/4eydy3s41/89_BDFF54-9_C47-467_B-9_A33-_EC911_F937398.jpg)
James
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No longer a Twin Beech - Triplet Beech?
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GODDAMMIT MEX!
I knew I should have cropped out that tail.
Your turn.
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Ha! Was that good enough to get it?
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I mean that's what it is so the baton is passed to you. Dammit, I thought that would be more difficult.
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Ok then... open bar on me!
Sorry - open house... I meant open house... put your drinks back...
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Since its open house Ill throw one up! Here you go!
(https://s22.postimg.cc/u49xur5i9/Quest.jpg)
Best luck!
Fresco
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Looks like dummy.
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Nope.
It's a real flying plane.
I know what it is but I'll never tell.
James
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Its real! It comes complete with a detachable washboard.
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Definitely a Fokker M16
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I helped Fresco pick it out. That's why I didn't answer the quest.
I would say it's your turn but since Fresco posted it we need to wait for him.
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Here I go then
(https://s33.postimg.cc/wwfvx5pwf/s_ljyom.jpg)
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Weiss WM-21 Sólyom
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Of course you're right ::) ;D
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Behold!
The magnificence that is this thing:
(https://s15.postimg.cc/9brvh4xgr/92_BB2292-5_E29-45_CA-_AD2_F-_B4_B47_A8385_F6.jpg)
You'll find that, like the Italians, I have an overwhelming love for all trimotors.
Cheers and good luck,
James
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Great job!
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Guess what
It's a DAR-4
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Correct my Hungarian friend.
I thought it might be too easy for you seeing as it is from your country after all.
James
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Alrite then
This one is super easy (but some members never seen this before tho)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/opnw5kke7/ancsamotor.jpg)
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the windshield with lateral protuberance, four blade propeller and cables that indicate that it is a biplane clear any doubt. :o
it's an Antonov An-2 ;D
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Yes. The good old Annie ;D
(https://s33.postimg.cc/ccbz1o0dr/ancsa.jpg)
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I guess it's my turn then!
try this!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/6ur6izs73/BF-110-_C4.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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try this!
Savoia-Marchetti SM.91 ? 8)
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Yes Gatrasz! ;D
You have the baton now!
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I like this one, but I prefer SM.92 design...
So now, I know photoshopping is bad, but...that's not me :D
(https://s15.postimg.cc/kkthkz8kb/1280_6535313634386164.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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SABCA S.47
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SABCA S.47
Hi! I was waiting for Caproni Bergamaschi Ca.335 'Maestrale' but, guess what, that's the same :D Your turn...
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Like I’ve told you guys before, I am the best :D
Here you go:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/i5ek4o8kh/42_CF163_B-0_F78-4543-9024-084886_C90404.jpg)
James
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Like I’ve told you guys before, I am the best :D
I know, that's why I'm planning to come back to french rarities, to keep my advantage :P
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You will keep nothing!
I am the champion! You can never defeat me! I will always have more knowledge. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
(https://s22.postimg.cc/g244x0vwx/42_CF163_B-0_F78-4543-9024-084886_C90404.jpg)
Sincerely,
James
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Potez 36/14.
In contrast to the original design, this one used a 95hp Renault 4Pb inline engine and it featured leading-edge slate and wheel brakes.
]cheers[
Mike
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That’s it Mike.
Your turn!
James
P.S. you pulled that description out of The Complete Encyclopedia of World Aircraft
General Editor: David Donald
The top of page 761 in the Potez 63 variants listing.
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you pulled that description out of The Complete Encyclopedia of World Aircraft
General Editor: David Donald
The top of page 761 in the Potez 63 variants listing.
No Sir, I'd love to have that book but actually I've pulled this from an ancient article written in a 2011's FlyPast magazine.
So... how about this one?
(https://s22.postimg.cc/w3f3sti4x/quest_2018-06-05_01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vqnpmmzv1/)
]cheers[
Mike
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I guess it's the one-seater variant of the Grishin Shturmovik-Tandem (or Ш-МАИ М-87) from the late 1930's.
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Absolutely true Sniperton, it's the final version from 1939.
Your turn 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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Thanks! This shall be easy as it's so unique.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/cqmzzbskv/quest20180605.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Ah, the telescopic aircraft РК-И (раздвижное крыло-истребитель) by Георгий Иванович Бакшаев.
Here you can see how the wings are "unfolding":
(https://s33.postimg.cc/60b440573/20090416photo6a.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Correct, the baton goes back to you ;D
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In that case, how about this one?
(https://s33.postimg.cc/qusiivt0f/quest_2018-06-05_03.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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In that case, how about this one?
~snip~
Mike
S'tits?
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Eh... woot? No.
Nobody has a guess?
So here's a hint: The maiden flight of this plane was in October 1936 and the top speed is 115 km/h.
]cheers[
Mike
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Sorry Mike, I’ve been busy putting together a German uniform for the whole day.
Is it American?
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Nope, not american.
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Russian ? tail looks very Polikarpov style...
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Russian yes, Polikarpov not quite.
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Well, if it's Russian, I'm gonna try it... didn't find any picture, but among the aircraft that flew in 1936...
Gribovsky G-22? (the Wikipedia description doesn't seem to match, but I couldn't find anything else...)
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No it's not gribovsky.
Seems like it's time for another hint.
The plane in question was used for the doctoral dissertion of a very famous russian aircraft designer who, even before this plane made it's maiden flight, was assigned to the I-153 developer team.
]cheers[
Mike
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This took me down a rabbit hole but I belive this is the 'Октябренок' designed by PD Grushin
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Absolutely correct Ranger, it's the Октябренок designed by PD Grushin, even though the designer whom I was referring to was Արտյոմ Հովհաննեսի Միկոյան (Артём Иванович Микоян - Artjom Iwanowitsch Mikojan) who was also working on this project for his doctoral dissertion.
Your turn 8)
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:D
(https://s15.postimg.cc/3l9i8xhqz/Daimler_L.15_in_flight.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Herr Klemm semi gilder plane. ;D
also know as Klemm Daimler L15.
Have an only 12,5hp engine an crew of 2 o_O
The L20 is much more stilized with low wing and only 19hp mercedes-daimler engine.
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Correct! ]thumright[
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tanks! ;D
guess this!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/oa8zpg6pb/B-25-_M.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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French !
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I remember when I was a kid, going to a little association on the local airfield in my home town... They had preserved one of these, a couple of Mirage 3, maybe a Fouga CM-170 Magister or two, and a Dassault Etendard...
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yes is french! ;D
loadout is the key! ;)
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It's a Dassault MD-311 Flamant, used by the special unit of the French Air Force in Algeria, GOM.86, during the Algerian War of Independence for light attack with the Nord SS.11 antitank missiles against fortified caves located in steep mountain gorges, which proved extremely successful.
Interesting sidenote is that the engine used (SNECMA 12S) were essentially german Argus 411 engine produced in france after WW2, and the SS.11 antitank missile was derived from the SS.10 which in turn was a further development of the german WW2 X-7 missile and (history can be so ironic) was ordered in numbers by Israel (they just arrived little too late for the IDF to use them in the 1956 Suez crisis).
]cheers[
Mike
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Yes!
good information mike! as always! ;D
it's amazing how that type of missile arrived until our days almost unchanged since the WWII :o
baton belongs to you now!
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Indeed, there hasn't been much of a change in the missiles' general concept, however the electronics and sensors inside have been subject to significant changes in the meantime.
Let me follow the path you've paved and chip in this sweet bird:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/vchtx3idt/quest_2018-06-08.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/y6kzajkjx/)
]cheers[
Mike
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Do not fall into a spiral of French planes of dubious classification... ;D
Bastan or Astazou will be those elegant turboprop? :o
In the aeronautical history of my country there are many things of this style.
do not force me to punish you with that. o_O
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Bastan 8)
Carefully photoshopped off the nacelles, but now that part has been unveiled :)
I think these planes are real beauties, like many of those forgotten birds of the 50s and early 60s.
And they're built for purpose, your country had some job to do down in Algeria ;)
The argentine Pucara actually isn't that much different from the basic concept, and it was a great success, despite the fact that the Royal Navy slaughtered them with their exceptional Harrier crews.
]cheers[
Mike
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I was also convinced that the engines were turbomeca Bastan. :o
But in wikipedia says that the military version was equipped with the Astazou ... just like the pucará. :-[
That's why I asked the question.
It seems that Dassault put the Bastan to the civilian model, calling it MD.415 Communauté and in the only military model called MD.410 Spirale, put the Astazou XIVD.
I can not find the reason of putting a 360kw less powerful engine into the military model ... Will it be by autonomy? :-|
I guess you posted the only military version MD.410 Spirale
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MD.410 Spirale
Absolutely correct loco, the baton is yours 8)
Wikipedia... they might say what they want - the original picture is this and you can clearly see the "Bastan" on the engine nacelles - and Dassault doesn't even mention the Astazou on their page.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/kofgk8xgx/ENV000-_NN168_T.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/t6owol3zh/)
Source: https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/passion/aircraft/military-dassault-aircraft/md-410-spirale/
]cheers[
Mike
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well then ;D
let's continue with this subtype, just as I promised. :o
Guess this!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/4l1rxfe2n/DC-3.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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Guaranì II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMA_IA_50_Guaran%C3%AD_II
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The dihedral of its wing makes it look like a negative arrow, the contrast with the strong arrow of the tail gives it its unmistakable silhouette.
Like those we have seen, its engines are Turbomeca Bastan. :D
Undoubtedly, it is the IAe 50 Guarani II.
your turn now Gianky! ;D
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Well ... it's been more than a day. :(
Let's guess this while Gianky gives signs of life. :P
Guess This!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/4u3jawy1r/guess116.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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Grumman XTB3F Gaurdian Prototype
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yes james is the Grumman XTB3F-1 :P
relive the tread!
you have the baton now! ;D
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Thanks!
Guess this:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/8m1qv2cgh/F8_D5_F048-_B740-4894-_B76_F-_E0632_CEE33_F9.jpg)
Cheers!
James
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Those lovely between war bombers - open cockpit, fixed gear and a speed to go with it (about 150mph)
The Fairey Hendon
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Correct Lame. :)
That was never supposed to be a hard one.
Your turn.
James
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Thank you.
Here's another that ought to shouldn't be too difficult
(https://s15.postimg.cc/ax4hbpigb/SASQuiz49.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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German, right ? wasn't it a plane made for same purpose than Hs-126 ?
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Arado Ar-198
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Too easy it seems. Well, the tail is give-away.
Back to you, James
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Seems as though I must make this a bit of a challenge.
This one is near and dear to me mainly because I worked on its evolutionary son:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/5hdrcedld/9_B3_E0569-_DD82-4_D58-8695-9331384_CBF09.jpg)
Cheers!
James
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The original Kaman?
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Technically Mex, but what’s it called.
I need a designation.
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K-125A?
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Ok, your turn :D
James
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Where do you guys dig up these flying machines?! ;D
Incredible looking aircraft, thanks !
I am always learning new things here.
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Let's guess this while Gianky gives signs of life. :P
Sorry, guys, too much work, too little time! :(
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Well Max,
A lot of the aircraft I’ve posted here have been things I have worked on or been a part of restoring. This one in particular is an aircraft that I helped restore the gearbox on for its future display in the Kaman collction.
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I've got one (for real this time) but can't post it yet, so....
OPEN HOUSE!!!
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How about this one! ;D
(https://s22.postimg.cc/9ntli23wx/3593.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Stearman ?
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Nope
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How about this one! ;D
(https://s22.postimg.cc/9ntli23wx/3593.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Vought O2U :)
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Yep ;D
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Guess it's my turn. :)
Can anyone guess what we have here?
(https://image.ibb.co/n4KA0J/12164L_2.jpg)
:)
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A helicopter ... ? ;D
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Oh, darn Atoka. You just beat me to it 8)
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Anyway - not too difficult with those contra rotating rotors.
Bendix Model J
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Spot on Lamehawk, well done !!! :)
Now, tag your it. :)
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Here is a nice one
(https://s33.postimg.cc/83kau5tfz/SASQuiz50.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Ah, a belgique beauty.
Les Ateliers de Constructions Aéronautiques Belges (LACAB) GR.8 "Doryphore" :)
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Absolutely right, Mike.
Over to you
PS I like the banner picture with the Hunter about to enter the hangar!
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After I get Mike’s I have a downright strange one for you guys.
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Sorry guys, too busy at the moment, you can go ahead James - it's open round 8)
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Perfect!
Thanks Mike.
Guess this:
(https://s15.postimg.cc/6z5d3vqxn/C00071_FA-_DA40-4501-_B4_CF-_BFE73_E23_D241.jpg)
James
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This is obviously the offspring that you get when a duck and a widgeon happen to copulate together....... ;D :D :P
Thanks for this one - I've never seen this plane before!
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With folded wings it looks even more strange:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/u2g0md28h/sg1-10.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Great lakes XSG only one prototype built because it was too slow for the navy o_O
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Looks like an ampu-phibian...
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Correct Ranger.
Your up!
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Try This one :P
(https://s22.postimg.cc/dfko89uxd/emscob8-i.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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EMSCO B-8
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Correct!
Your turn P51
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what happened to james?!?!?! :o o_O :o o_O
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Maybe Mike shot him down again ;)
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Sorry guys. Been having internet troubles lately.
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Here you go:
(https://s15.postimg.cc/4nx75lta3/2_DC58_A71-_C29_C-43_B1-_A60_B-6_AABA01_EF13_F.jpg)
James
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Hello All,
I believe that's a Grumman Mallard. :)
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D,
That is correct.
Your turn.
James
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Hello All,
Try this one. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/f9P8fT/db98fdd4eced9987b8092594e2e7b7fc.jpg)
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Douglas XB-19 ?
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Good call Gatrasz … spot on :)
Your turn :)
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Let's try this one ?
(https://s33.postimg.cc/qcb35kom7/ant.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Possibly a Potez-Cams 141 ?
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Sounds reasonable.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/lshoi8qrl/potez-cams-141-antarc3a8s.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3polr0uwt/)
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Absolutely. Your turn :D
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Here's another, enjoy :)
(https://image.ibb.co/g7qdZo/guess.jpg)
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McDonnell XP-67 ‘Moonbat’
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Good call Bombsaway, well done. :)
Your turn.
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Finally! I got one! :) I kept thinking Foxbat but that wasn't it. I had seen the plane before and thought it would be nice to have in IL2 but it tuned out to be Moonbat. Some dang ding bat anyway. :)
Anywho, open round! :)
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Ok, so here's another. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/mOsyH8/guess1.jpg)
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In nacionality is heir of the Hill Pterodactyl.
The name of this plane is an irony of what its creator had to live ... :-[
considered enemy allien, they sent him for a while to take care of cats without a tail here:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/szs9r6t1r/600px-_Flag_of_the_Isle_of_Mann.svg.png) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/pu7o0guun/Manx_cat_by_Karen_Weaver.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Another clue is,as well as strange derivatives, it has as engines the gipsy major
:-X
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An interesting take on the picture above, however locopiston, you failed to give the name or aircraft designation of the aircraft portrayed above.
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We're talking obviously about this plane:
Handley Page H.P. 75 Manx
(http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/strange_vehicles/handley_page_hp75_manx.html)
All credits go to Loco :D
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Good call to both of you, sniperton and locopiston. :)
Guess it's your turn(s).
:)
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Loco, your turn ;D
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well ... if you insist ... ;D
Come on with a beautiful and easy silver barrel ;)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/kg0m4dj5b/guess-pulqui.png) (https://postimages.org/)
cheers!
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La-15 possibly :)
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close... but no cigar! :P
try again.
correct country and manufacturer ;)
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I think I've got it this time. :)
La-150 :)
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I bet its a copy of a "LUFT-46" project airplane from the Luftwaffe.
It looks a little like a LA-150, but it is actually a La-168 or a La-176 which
I believe is the same design.
The photo has been flipped around, so its a La-176 :D
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Great Call max_thehitman … I believe your right about this one. :)
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OK, I will post an easy one for you now ...
(https://i.imgur.com/7pt3ptJ.jpg)
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Yes, it's the La-176.
The difference with the La-168 is a small redesign of the cockpit, the fences under the tail and the small detail of being the first Soviet aircraft to reach MACH 1.02. ;)
Your turn now Max, but you've posted anyway. :P
It would be easy to risk the name of the plane you propose ... but I'll wait for Mike to do it first. ;D
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Modern Twin Engine Chinese?
Must be 西安飛機工業 轰-6I 8)
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Chengdu J-20
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Thanks locopiston,
we were playing this in the early morning light, so we just went along with the show.
Modern Twin Engine Chinese?
Must be 西安飛機工業 轰-6I 8)
Sorry, its not the Xi'an Aircraft Industrial Corporation, but the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group.
Even though they both belong to the same Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) which they say
is a Chinese state-owned aerospace and defence conglomerate.
The 西安飛機工業 轰-6I = Xian H-6 is a licence-built version of the Soviet Tupolev Tu-16 twin-engine jet bomber
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_H-6
P51vsFw190 is correct about this being the Chengdu J-20.
It is a twinjet, all-weather, stealth fifth-generation fighter aircraft from China.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-20
Your turn P51vsFw190
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Sorry, its not the Xi'an Aircraft Industrial Corporation
(...)
Xian H-6 is a licence-built version of the Soviet Tupolev Tu-16 twin-engine jet bomber
Didn't mean it serious, however for the record: The H-6I which I've mentioned goes slightly further than just copying the Badger.
(https://s8.postimg.cc/6ndkmymol/tumblr_inline_paiwkowz_K21t90ue7_500.jpg)
(https://s8.postimg.cc/smjza6qo5/H-8-line1.gif)
]cheers[
Mike
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Guess this:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/nbjbeauw5/3785_CB75-745_C-4_F89-_B45_B-7_BAE0_C49_C369.jpg)
Good luck........
James
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F-35 8)
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Boeing GA-1
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Correct Radoye
Your turn
James
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(http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/FT/FT1927/02/70-1.jpg)
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F-35 8)
/slap
Radoye, that should be the single prototype of the Huff-Dalland XLB-1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huff-Daland_LB-1) (or XLBT-1 as some sources call it).
A quite interesting plane, trying to match the bomber role with a single engine aircraft, equipped with the Packard 1A-2500 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packard_1A-2500) (or 2540, depending on sources) engine which at it's time (1923/24) was quite a handful with 787 (800?) hp.
Something more to read about that plane for those who are interested:
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_bombers/lb1.html
]cheers[
Mike
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That is exactly what it is, Mike. Your turn! :)
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Thanks Radoye.
Dunno if we had this before, anyway... try it 8)
(https://s22.postimg.cc/ay3ge3rrl/quest_2018-06-26.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Spare parts? :P
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This thing HAS to be french ! :D
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To both: Yes 8)
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We've already had this, I guess, but never mind, the photo should be new to all. ;D
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Sud-Est S.E.100
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Spot on James, you've got the baton!
]cheers[
Mike
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Try this strange creature:
(https://s15.postimg.cc/4udqrqidn/A9926313-46_D9-416_F-_A780-_CDD01_F70_ED58.jpg)
James
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I think it's the … French Mauboussin M.40 Hémiptère :)
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Dammit Humphrey.
Your turn.
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Dammit Humphrey.
:)
Ok fellas, try this. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/b9QzQT/guess2.jpg)
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The BAT-Plane !??
(https://i.imgur.com/MPEN1Y2.jpg)
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LOL … Max, nice try :)
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Saro SR.53
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In the picture of DHumphrey as in Max's Batplane at first glance, there seems to be a Bell X-2 as a background. :-|
(https://s33.postimg.cc/6z8r5y9kv/image.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
But clearly in the Batplane you can see the air inlets for the jet propulsion in the wing deployment, it is bigger to house the crime lab and the television (very important this last, in world cup season) 8)
And the photo of DHumphrey apparently no air intake, could say is a rocket plane ... like the X2, but with two rockets, one on top of the other. :o
The two engines without air intake led me to the Saunders-Roe SR.53.
which has a rocket motor (de Havilland Specter) and a jet propulsior (Armstrong Siddeley Viper)
Personally I think the Batplane have better design of air intakes than the Saunders-Roe SR.53.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/hytyi0xkf/SR53.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
As always I was beaten at the last minute by James. :(
It happens to me to talk like the batman villains ;D
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Personally I think the Batplane have better design of air intakes than the Saunders-Roe SR.53.
What makes you come to that conclusion? Just the look of it?
Because aerodynamically, both have their pros and cons.
Wing root intakes (as used in the Batplane or, more related to reality, the Hawker Hunter or the british V-Planes) aerodynamically are very much similar to scooped intakes, which have proved to be the superior design for strictly subsonic use.
However the submerged intake of the SR.53 has it's benifits in the transsonic regime.
This isn't something you simply have to believe when I tell, but you can study yourself:
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/005157.pdf
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.700.6301&rep=rep1&type=pdf
]cheers[
Mike
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Well done to both of you, 51 & loco :)
I'll leave it to you both to decide who will post the next aircraft. :)
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I’ll go since my answer came first in order of posts.
Try this easy one:
(https://s15.postimg.cc/o86b2x5vf/5_D40_DA2_E-4408-45_FE-_A60_B-1_AED679_A5057.jpg)
James
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It's a high altitude monoplane
Sorry - can't be more specific than that...
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Attempt at a negative diving record from the 1930s.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/5eyaaqje3/quest180628.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6tzuzgkh3/)
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It's the … Bristol Type 138 High Altitude Monoplane :)
Completed in early 1936, the aircraft was routinely capable of achieving 50,000ft and could also carry an observer when necessary. It holds the distinction of setting nine separate altitude world records, the ultimate of these happened during a 2¼-hour flight flown by Flight Lieutenant M.J. Adam, in which he achieved a record altitude, which was later homologated by the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale as having attained a maximum altitude of 53,937 ft (16,440 m).
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Your turn Humph’
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Kool … :)
Well here's another from back in the day. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/hDvBfT/guess3.jpg)
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Cool. Didn't know the F-35 has a gunner 8)
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Handley Page H.P.47
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I didnt even know something this strange existed. o_O
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You don’t even know the half of it. Aircraft can get pretty strange. However there are those that just can’t see at all like Storebror up above. He’s so blind, he thinks everything is an F-35! :P I’m kidding of course.
James
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He’s so blind
You name it, that's what I keep saying all the time.
A year ago I've attended the routine examination by our company physician.
I told her that I have trouble with my eyes, sometimes can't see much on the screen after hours of coding, and regularly having headaches when the day ends.
She made the eye and vision exam and said that everything was fine, I'd have 105% on both eyes.
Thanks I said, but doesn't solve the issues I've reported.
No hint.
So I went to the local drugstore and bought me cheap glasses for 1€.
Problem solved.
Lost them 3 days later (they must be somewhere, but don't ask me where), so I spent 20€ and put glasses at all "strategical" points where I might need them.
Problem solved definitely.
]cheers[
Mike
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I have the same eye problems as Mike Storebror, I am almost going blind from using the PC monitor
for too many hours painting stuff.
But I don´t see any F-35s, I see airplanes with sexy ladies. :P
(https://i.imgur.com/HCOsvWF.jpg)
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I don´t see any F-35s, I see airplanes with sexy ladies.
Tell me what kind of glasses you're using please, I want to have the same ones 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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But I don´t see any F-35s, I see airplanes with sexy ladies. :P
That's how I like to have my Me-262s :D
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Area 51 … your up to bat. :)
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Alright then
Try this:
(https://s15.postimg.cc/fv21hust7/EDE43_F77-_EB57-45_D9-8_F55-_CD9_BCD33_B555.png)
James
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Armstrong Whitworth Ensign right?
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Erich, That's correct!
Your turn!
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I’m not sure what to really post but I will try my best.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/ncb8x2q23/EB6385_B3-0_F4_D-491_C-_BC79-59_B11882_C6_A4.jpg)
Is this good?
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Kawasaki Ki-32
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Dang … and all I thought they made were motorcycles and snowmobiles. :)
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Mr. Fresco youre right!
Take it away!
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That's a rather attractive plane
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Ok heres one I like!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/728cf3pf3/Plane.jpg)
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I believe it's a "Westland Wagtail" … circa 1915.
A prototype British Fighter aircraft of the First World War. A single-engined tractor biplane, the Wagtail was a failure owing to the unreliability of its engine, only "five" being built.
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Indeed DHumphrey! Beautiful isn't she?? Take it away!
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Thanks :)
Here's an interesting one. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/frgC9y/guess4.jpg)
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Cool beer Barrel :D
That is a 1933 Stipa-Caproni Aircraft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB4-_OWz5qE
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OK, here we go.... guess this rare aircraft...
(https://i.imgur.com/PbhMKU3.jpg)
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It's a He-119. Probably the V1, I guess ?
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It's a He-119. Probably the V1, I guess ?
That is Correct!
The Heinkel He 119 was an experimental single-propeller monoplane with two coupled engines, developed in Germany.
A private venture by Heinkel to test radical ideas by the Günter brothers, the He 119 was originally intended to act as an unarmed
reconnaissance bomber capable of eluding all fighters due to its high performance. Only 8 were built, including a seaplane version.
Your PRIZE ... 8) a Mini USB Fridge Cooler+Warmer Gadget Beverage Drink Cans Refrigerator !
http://www.ldgadgets.com/mini-usb-fridge-cooler-warmer-gadget-beverage-drink-cans-refrigerator/
Your turn Gatrasz!
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Only 8 were built, including a seaplane version.
Maybe we'll see this one in Il-2 some day ? ;) Many thanks for the prize, I'll sure know what to do with it ! :D
For now, I got this to challenge our specialists :
(https://s33.postimg.cc/lmt58cthr/sh_rgr_r.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It's a SNCASE SE-400. :)
It was a prototype French twin-engine coastal patrol floatplane developed during the Second World War. A single example was flown, the project was abandoned in May 1940 owing to the German invasion of France.
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It's a SNCASE SE-400. :)
Okay... That was quick :D Your turn...
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Kool … :)
Here's one that's a bit different. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/kOTCuy/guess5.jpg)
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Here's one that's a bit different. :)
советский самолет экраноплан ВВА-14
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Well done stiv_069 !!! :)
The Bartini Beriev VVA-14 vertical take-off amphibious aircraft, was a wing-in-ground-effect aircraft developed in the Soviet Union during the 1970s. It was designed to be able to take off from the water and fly at high speed over long distances, it was to make true flights at high altitude, but also have the capability of "flying" efficiently just above the sea surface, using aerodynamic ground effect.
The VVA-14 was designed by Italian-born designer Robert Bartini in answer to a perceived requirement to destroy United States Navy Polaris missile submarines.
Your turn stiv_069
:)
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this should not be difficult)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/qtr9fobm7/3ea08aad7511.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It's the L.W.F. model V – Tractor :)
The L.W.F. Model V Tractor is a single-engine two-seat trainer and reconnaissance biplane aircraft produced by the American manufacturer L.W.F. Engineering Company, (Lowe, Willard, Fowler).
This two-seat training and observation airplane was built as a prototype in 1916, and went into production for the US army a year later. The LWF Model V is a biplane, powered by a V-8 engine. The fuselage is a plywood, cantilever, semi-monocoque construction. The entire hull is covered in fabric, impregnated with several layers of cellulose lacquer. The wings are swept parallel construction; the upper wing has a greater span than the lower. The four independent wings of the wooden biplane are covered with fabric. The entire two-compartment braced system is reinforced with steel wire. The tail surfaces are formed of welded steel tubes and covered in fabric.
The aircraft's flight characteristics were not the best, so it was used in the US army primarily for secondary tasks.
The LWF Model V has special significance for Czech history - it was used by the air force branch of the Czechoslovakian legion in Russia.
:)
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Your turn DHumphrey
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Ok All,
Here's another. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/goo7Uy/guess6.jpg)
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Im not letting this thread die!
Try this:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/rggrsdxjl/211_B86_E4-3_AB6-46_E7-_AA23-_F31_B3_E50_D93_C.jpg)
James
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I'm confused ... :-|
The nose, wheel bays and the turboprop took me to the Douglas C-132.
but wikipedia says it was just a concept ... :-[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_C-132 o_O
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Loco, youre soooo close. Think more practically. Not 132 but 13*.
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wikipedia says it was just a concept
As James said, you're damn close.
Carrying Thor missiles wasn't just a concept, it was a necessity ;)
]cheers[
Mike
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Yes, I was so close that I did not see it. :P
Douglas C-133 Cargomaster. ;D
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There you go!
Your turn Loco!
There is a back story to that photograph if you would like to hear it.
This is the original
(https://s22.postimg.cc/4q4bd0goh/96_E85_D53-52_C3-4_A68-84_C4-_F068_AAD8_DF1_A.jpg)
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Ok! ;D
lets go with one easy. :-[
try this!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/kg4z8kfj3/guess-navy.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Ok All,
Here's another. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/goo7Uy/guess6.jpg)
I guess this one was a stumper :)
It's a The Gallaudet D-4 … it was an unusual biplane designed and built by Gallaudet Aircraft Company for the United States Navy. It was powered by a Liberty L-12 engine buried within the fuselage which turned a large, four-bladed propeller attached to a ring around the center fuselage. Only two were constructed, with the second being accepted by the Navy for service as an observation aircraft.
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Ok! ;D
lets go with one easy. :-[
try this!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/kg4z8kfj3/guess-navy.png) (https://postimages.org/)
A Vought F8U-3 Crusader III during flight testing. The under-fuselage fins folded up into a horizontal position for take off and landing. :)
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There you go!
Your turn Loco!
There is a back story to that photograph if you would like to hear it.
This is the original
(https://s22.postimg.cc/4q4bd0goh/96_E85_D53-52_C3-4_A68-84_C4-_F068_AAD8_DF1_A.jpg)
Looks like a hurricane went through where-ever that place is.
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A Vought F8U-3 Crusader III
"The best airplane we ever canceled".
The F8U-3 went farther, faster, it turned better, cost less, weighed less, and it would go as far on internal fuel as the F4H-1 could go with a 600-gallon external fuel tank - and it was a 25 percent cheaper than the F4H.
]cheers[
Mike
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Okay!
this is messing up a bit ... :-[
James: Of course we like stories and more about disasters. :o
DHumphrey: we'll give it to you for valid even if you miss the letter X ... it's the XF8U-3-Crusader-III. Your turn now. ;)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/6f3k0ficv/-_Featured-_Image-610x380.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Mike: Why would they have canceled it being so advantageous, cheap, light and maneuverable? :-|
Will it be because of the ugly of his upturned nose and nasty mouth? o_O
Or for some kind of dark negotiated to buy something worse and more expensive? o_O
(We know that this is USA weakness as can be seen in a plane that is frecuently here)
Sorry for the delay ...
It is for living in the ass of the world and having tons of work, despite the fact that today is a national holiday. ;D
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Thanks loco,
Here's another one … I think this one's gonna be easy. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/eiutZ8/guess7.jpg)
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That shape and characteristic ... It is only comparable with the Bartini Beriev VVA-14 that you have already posted before. ;)
It is a Dornier Do 31 experimental VTOL transport plane with a useful load of 3500 kg.
Is still the only transport VTOL ever. ;D
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It´s the FLASH GORDON 1937 spaceship :D
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Technically, its the Dornier Do 31E.
The one pictured is the second one built. That one had all ten engines fitted and made its first transition from vertical flight to horizontal flight on December 16th, 1967.
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Why would they have canceled it being so advantageous, cheap, light and maneuverable? :-|
Can't put it any better than others did before, so let me cite a bit...
It couldn’t have been looks: the Super Crusader was a far sleeker aircraft than the pudgy Phantom.
Perhaps it was economics as the Department of Defense in the early 1960s pushed for a common fighter for the Air Force, Navy and Marines.
Safety might have had something to do with it, too: the Crusader I and II were known for high accident rates.
Or was it because the Super Crusader was a hotshot dinosaur, a superb throwback to an earlier era of stick-and-rudder dogfights?
For example, Sparrow missiles required painting the target with a radar beam.
A Phantom pilot could leave this to his backseat weapons officer while he flew the plane.
The pilot of a single-seat Super Crusader would have had to fly the plane and control the Sparrow.
The Phantom was also more versatile, serving as a bomber, Wild Weasel air-defense killer and reconnaissance aircraft.
In fact, the F-4 was so remarkably adaptable and tough that the last U.S. military Phantom wasn't retired until December 2016.
For all the speed and maneuverability of the Super Crusader, it is doubtful whether it could have remained relevant for fifty-eight years.
(Source: http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-f-8-super-crusader-the-hot-navy-fighter-almost-replaced-20405)
]cheers[
Mike
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It´s the FLASH GORDON 1937 spaceship :D
AWESOME HITMAN … AWESOME !!!! :)
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Technically, its the Dornier Do 31E.
The one pictured is the second one built. That one had all ten engines fitted and made its first transition from vertical flight to horizontal flight on December 16th, 1967.
P-51 gets the edge on technicality :) Your turn 51.
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I agree with everything... ;D
but next time I'll put one of my difficult folder... :o
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Thanks Humphrey!
Behold! This thing:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/dhlwlalz5/54_D89_E11-_DC57-4_ED6-_B591-_FA377_D92248_D.jpg)
James
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Fairchild 91
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Good job Mex.
Youre up!
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It is a Dornier Do 31. Is still the only transport VTOL ever.
O rly...... :P
Then what is a V-22 Osprey?
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To be precise, the Do-31 is the only VTOL jet transport ever making it into the air.
]cheers[
Mike
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True, and since Mex has not returned within 24 hours it is now an open round.
So take this:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/v2svcporp/42_D5_DE0_F-_ACE0-484_F-97_E6-_B4_F58_C62_DB8_A.jpg)
James
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Hold on! Don't y'all ever take a pulse? Is actually had one this time!
That's obviously a Ki-6184100
Or a Pilatus P-2
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Very nice. Sorry for being too literal on the thread rules.
It’s your turn by the way. ;D
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I’ve got one,but it might take a day or two to post it, so just give me a sec, and watch this space...
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Sorry for being too literal on the thread rules.
Rules … there are rules ??? :)
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Technically yes. Look at the first post in this thread
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Technically yes. Look at the first post in this thread
Dang it … there are rules :)
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Here are the rules, DHumphrey ;)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg528969.html#msg528969
James: I was left wanting the story of the Douglas C-133 Cargomaster upside down :o
(to wait pleasantly for Mex to deign post something) :P
Or perhaps the cross between Arado Ar-96 and Kawasaki ki-100 is still active? o_O
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The C-133 - tornado at the New England Air Museum?
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I was waiting to tell you gents about it.
That picture was taken one day after the September 1979 Windsor Locks tornado. It passed directly over what was then the Bradley Air Museum. It damaged or destroyed more than half of the outdoor aircraft collection and a sizable chunk of the indoor collection as well. The museum then moved to its present location north of Bradley International Airport on the perimeter road. That was back in the 80’s so it was at least a decade before my time. I now work at that museum as a restorer and guide and I have had the pleasure of working on a few of the aircraft in that picture that survived. I was there today in fact and we moved quite a few aircraft in order to bring an old one in. It was a logistical nightmare, eek! I was then tasked with the job of installing a solar powered fan in the bottom of a Dassault HU-25 Falcon for cooling while we leave it outside for a few weeks. That went off without a hitch so I moved on to moving a couple of display cases and reprimanding children and their parents for going behind the roaps and on to/in to things they shouldn’t. Just a snippit of my day with some history to boot. Cheers gents!
James
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Is it the same skywarrior of the photo? o_O
(https://s33.postimg.cc/6hm3opm9r/2_AD7559_C-_BB89-4044-_AF26-010_F041007_A3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
it's really a rock... :o
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,58784.0.html
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It is the same indeed.
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I never understood what Mex was waiting to post something ... ]sad11[
we already wait several seconds, and to look at the space I'm going to become an astronomer. :o
¿Que pasa compadre chihuahuense? ;D
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Sorry for the wait, hope this is worth it (I had to crop it, pixelate, and shrink it):
(https://s15.postimg.cc/eteyumue3/xplane8.jpg)
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Is it a helicopter with a "pushing" propeller (a little bit like Piasecki X-49A Speedhawk, which it does not look to be) ?
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Yes, and you are very close...
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Piasecki 16H-1 Pathfinder
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Piasecki 16H-1 Pathfinder
That is correct, you beat me to it again ;D
That is a cool looking helicopter.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/ae/08/f1ae0877c374f6baabea366e5284bcf8.jpg)
(http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/6/8/9/0236986.jpg?v=v40)
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Very good 51 !!! :)
The Piasecki 16H-1 Pathfinder II looks like it was the pre-cursor to the US Army's AH-56 Cheyenne attack helicopter. The Piasecki 16H-1 Pathfinder II was under development in 1962 with the AH-56 Cheyenne first flying in 1966.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Lockheed_AH-56_Cheyenne.jpg)
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Cool!
Try this one:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/gr93nja5d/FDE76455-1_D8_F-423_F-_A0_BB-_FBD5_C943552_E.jpg)
James
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At first I thought it was a DC6, but Russian: by the resemblance to the first and the face of cold and austerity of the seconds. :o
but looking in pages in Cyrillic letters I found this ;D
(https://s33.postimg.cc/u6yoaxm33/Eastern_Express96002_Britannia_RAF.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
So, that led me to say that it is a Bristol Britannia.
cheers!
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Youre so close. But it’s not a Britannia.
Try again.
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Canadair CL-44? :-|
it seems to be longer :-[
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It is the 44.
You can tell by this plane’s absence of windows and its shorter length that this is the prototype CL-44.
It’s your turn Loco.
James
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Sorry for the delay.
One of the difficult ones (but not so much for the scholars around here)
Please, name the airplane and its most outstanding feature. ;)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/sv4x1vjnz/learjet.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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It's the HFB-320 Hansa Jet :)
The Hamburger Flugzeugbau HFB-320 Hansa Jet is an all-metal, twin-engine, ten-seat business jet that was built by German aircraft manufacturer Hamburger Flugzeugbau between 1964 and 1973. The most notable feature of the aircraft is its forward-swept wing, which is mid-mounted in the fuselage.
The tail lettering gave it away, LQ-JRH. Currently owned by: Gas del Estado, Buenos Aires, Argentina.
:)
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Right DHumphrey!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/jqb9gdftr/hfb320-1-750x500.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
It's the first time I have not changed the registration! as a new decoy. ;)
The truth ... is that "Gas del Estado" does not exist since 1991, when the neoliberal governments of Argentina sold our natural resources for coins.
In fact, it can be seen that the aircraft has in its nose and tail the YPF logo (fiscal petroleum deposits). A company that was sold at a price of embarrassment and repurchased for twice what it was worth (including environmental liability). As you can see, our governors are business geniuses.
The photo is from 04/26/1972, it must be written off some time ago, but for your research I think that all Argentines must continue paying the tuition ... :-[
You turn now! ;D
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Hello All,
Here's another, enjoy :)
(https://image.ibb.co/fNhoUJ/guess8.jpg)
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we already have this! :o
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg579963.html#msg579963
post another please!
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Kool … I'll find another :)
Alright, let's try this. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/fb6UKJ/guess9.jpg)
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i believe it is a conceptual prototype of this concrete mixer :P
(https://s33.postimg.cc/t69yvsaun/thumb_1441972745.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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LOL … not quite. :)
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OH WoW, That is cool mini chopper 8) ;D
I have no idea what it is
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really that thing is bigger than it seemed. ;D
(https://s33.postimg.cc/vb8424j7j/index.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
It's a Mil V-7
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_V-7
a helicopter with two V-1 at the ends of the rotor :o
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Well done locopiston !!!
The Mil V-7 was an unusual experimental four-seat helicopter with AI-7 ramjets at the tips of the two rotor blades. It had an egg-shaped fuselage, skid undercarriage, and a two-bladed tail rotor on a short tubular tail boom. Four aircraft were built in the late 1950s, but only one is known to have flown, with only the pilot aboard.
Your turn :)
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That reminds me of the Hiller Hornet.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/d6s8eoulb/2_D85_F88_A-_D2_FC-41_F3-_BDBB-_AA710_B64164_E.jpg)
James
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Very Kool 51 !!!
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yep i found the mil-V7 through it ;)
let's go with this:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/jgwotioan/guess167.png) (https://postimages.org/)
i found this viewing a plane in the last pages... is a derivative :-X
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X-21?
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X-21?
I think you got something there Mexchiwa … possibly even the X-21A.
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Yes! is the Northrop X-21A ;D
come to the investigating this:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg651442.html#msg651442
same colors...
It's Mex's turn then ... Please post something friend! o_O
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I got nuthin’ - open house
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DHumphrey you too guesed well the X-21A ;)
post something! :o
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OK … here we go. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/hmAr4J/guess10.jpg)
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Russian ?
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It looks like an XB-70 and a Sukhoi had a kid that injured its back.
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It looks like an XB-70 and a Sukhoi had a kid that injured its back.
Hehe :)
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It's a good HOAX Render!
theoretically it would be a Myasishchev M-55 ... but the plane does not exist. :-[
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1986225
this is the only thing I found that is not in Cyrillic:
Some hints of what is there - M-25, project of low altitude infantry killer - via shock wave, while flying supersonic 30-50 meters above the enemy troops.
Project was cancelled in 1973 after it became clear that Chinese government understood that attempts to disturb big bear can be dangerous, and finally declassified this year. :P
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I had to search for this rare one at the Secret Projects Aircraft forum - https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2853.0.html
for all things weird and wonderful :D
from the aircraft description....
" Its moveable ramp was able generate killing sonic boom!
o_O WOW! I never thoght about that. They are always thinking of new ways to kill the enemy.
Amazing and crazy idea , but it might just work.
The picture posted looks like a pretty cool design.
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Nice work locopiston :)
Project Myasishchev M-25 / experimental Russian military aircraft that proved unsuccessful after extensive trials (as is the fate of roughly half concepts for advanced military aircraft). A real 1970s project of supersonic ground attack fighter using destructive force of sonic boom as well as conventional weapons. However this project never got to mockup stage, let alone flying prototype.
Your turn loco. :)
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Greetings DHumprey! ;D
In fact, I had it in a folder with other beautiful aircraft renders that never existed. :-[
But I have found great resistance in this thread for those things, the friend Mike is like crazy in the absence of reality. Unless it's an F-35 :P
The most unreal that was well received is the physical scale model. ;)
Try this star wars empire ship now!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/alc51mj4v/Guess-_Tie-figther.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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I think this one is the tail gunner position of the Ju-288. :)
(https://forum.valka.cz/attachments/217/ju288c-2.jpg)
The Junkers Ju 288, originally known within the Junkers firm as the EF 074, was a German bomber project designed during World War II, which only ever flew in prototype form. The first of an eventual 22 development aircraft flew on 29 November 1940.
Although the 288 never even reached production status, let alone official operational service, the aircraft did see limited combat duty. In 1944, following the cancellation of the 288 program, the surviving A and C series prototypes were hurriedly fitted with defensive armament and equipment and deployed as reconnaissance bombers on the Western Front.
Very few missions were flown, owing to the scarcity of aviation fuel and spare parts, and the unresolved problems with the aircraft's powerplant and undercarriage. It is believed that the 288's were attached to the same unit operating the small number of Ju 388 reconnaissance planes that saw service.
:)
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Right again DHumprey!
It's from a ju-288.
I think with the glasses of the cockpits remaining, they made this beautiful fire car!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/9qu6t00kf/02e79220011e4d9ef506fbbb2fe82809.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kdnzyf8pn/)
You turn again!
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That is a way kool car !!!! :)
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Ok, here's another … enjoy :)
(https://image.ibb.co/fKYFJd/guess11.jpg)
See any resemblance ...
(http://orig07.deviantart.net/b31c/f/2010/071/9/d/flash_gordon_by_fluidgeometry.jpg)
:)
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I spy with my little eye...
A Handley Page Victor......of some sort. Most likely the Prototype judging by the intakes.
James
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Well done 51 !!!
It is the prototype of the Handley Page Victor. However you missed the bonus points for not mentioning the other vehicle. :)
It is the "Flash Gordon Rocket Ship". :)
Your turn 51.
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This one should be fun:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/54j3xizw1/426_AAE95-29_FE-4_AE9-8_ACC-0_A2_B93526_B72.jpg)
James
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A funny looking "stuka" :D
It is the famous Vivian Bellamy's Percival Proctor (Junkers Ju 87 Stuka) conversion
used for the film "The Battle of Britain".
- http://www.daveswarbirds.com/bob/misc.htm
However, it did not appear in the final cut of the film :( its place being taken by large-scale radio-control models.
Its a shame, because it´s a such a nice looking airplane too.
(https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hyperscale/imageproxy.php?url=http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/deMichu/Stuka-1.jpg)
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I am sure I got that aircraft correct, so
let´s move along with the quiz ...
an easy one for you
(https://www.theworldoftom.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Kulula_ZS-ZWP_05.jpg)
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Kulula Airlines 737-800 with its distinctive “Flying 101” color scheme.
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You got it man!
That is one very cool skin for an airplane.
Your turn
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Sorry for the small pic....
Try this:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/l9gte5h6d/17_CF9_F1_F-_AC4_A-494_D-_BA14-15_DB3_F32_B557.jpg)
James
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I think I got this one …
The IMAM Ro.63 :)
It was an Italian STOL aircraft designed for short-range reconnaissance and light transport during World War II. The aircraft was deployed in the North African Campaign, together with 30 Fieseler Fi-156 imported from Germany, even though this was insufficient to replace the IMAM Ro.37 and older reconnaissance aircraft. By 1943, after two years hard service, only one Ro.63 survived.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/IMAM_Ro.63_right_front_view.jpg)
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You got it DH
Your turn
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Thanks 51 :)
OK All … lets try this one.
(https://image.ibb.co/g9wSYd/guess12.jpg)
:)
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It is not a good idea to put a similar airplane in shape, with the same feature and the same brand as one that you have posted just 6 pages ago... :P
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg651203.html#msg651203
maybe someone looking for the previous riddle already see it 8)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/arr7qj1un/AA2129a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/arr7qj1uj/)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_29
;D
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Cool Dornier aircraft.
Great design idea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_29
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I'll try harder next time. :)
Your turn locopistion.
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thanks friend! ;D
Here goes one with a lot of glass and egg shape as you like it! ;)
Guess this!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/sew5mbidr/guess-111.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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I'm gonna go with …
The Monospar ST-25 :)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Monospar.jpg/1200px-Monospar.jpg)
it was a low-wing cantilever monoplane with a fabric-covered metal structure. The monospar name came from the use of a single spar in the wing structure, that had been developed by H J Stieger. The cabin was enclosed with five seats. It was based on the GAL Monospar ST-10, with the addition of a folding seat for a fifth passenger, extra side windows, and the addition of a radio receiver. On 19 June 1935, the prototype (G-ADIV) made its first flight at Hanworth Air Park. It was designated Monospar ST-25 Jubilee, to honor the 25th anniversary of the reign of King George V.
:)
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Yep! ;D
DHumphrey you are unbeatable with glazed eggs! :o
you turn again!
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This one is different. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/c7ajWy/guess13.jpg)
:)
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For the rotor :-|... the only thing I can say is that it is a supertunning Bell UH-1. ;D
I'm going to a "Asado Argentino" so for some hours or day I'll be out of service... :P
If I hit, open house.
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Your close loco … she has some UH-1 in her … but she's another designation altogether. :)
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Always enjoy these quest and I saw this on another site some time ago.
https://theaviationist.com/2011/11/18/stealth-helicopter/
(https://s33.postimg.cc/439j0esan/front-view.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/t9ah79ofz/side-view.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Adam
P.s. Someone else can take my turn when confirmed ;)
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Good research "Adam son of Eldor" (sounds epic). ;)
It's good to see the people you love around here!
(read on the board "the lunge: last post by eldor" was shocking and hopeful) :o
I'm sure you hit the nail on the Bell UH-1 Huey "Stealth Star"
I also found another that I'm sure is a derivative of that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AAI_Penetrator
(https://s33.postimg.cc/9nqloulpb/AAC-_Penetrator-2-s.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Hopefully, the friend DHumphrey will soon reveal the incognita ;D
Regards!
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WOW man, that AAI Penetrator looks awesome.
I want one of those for Christmas 8)
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Adam and loco, you guys are all over it. Well done !!! :)
Aerocraft Stealth Star 204 SS
A very rare gunship helicopter modified from the Bell UH-1B Iroquois with tandem seating for the pilots and a troop-carrying compartment. In 1990, Bell UH-1B Hueys were stripped down to the engine, transmission and tail boom. A complete armored composite structure was added, the flight controls and seating were modified to a tandem layout, with pilot in front and copilot at the rear. The third and fourth weapons operators were placed in the rear portion of the fuselage firing weapons to the rear. The outer fuselage mounts stub wings, two glazed gun turrets/observation windows under each side of the engine with rear-facing 20mm gun turret under the fuselage, and two forward-facing 12.7mm turrets under the cockpit. The prototype (N3080W ex U.S. Army 63-8508) uses a 1300 shp Avco Lycoming T53-L-13 turboshaft engine and had a gross take-off weight of 4280 kg. First flight was October 1991. The basic Penetrator is said to be air-to-air, air-to-ground and ground-to-ground combat capable, using modified technologies. It has been in development and can be seen on Stealthstar.
(http://www.warbird-photos.com/airshows/2013-LongBeach/LongBeachOpenHouse13_Stealth_Star_204-SS_0091.jpg)
locopiston, I guess it's your turn as Adam deferred.
:)
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okay! ;D
Let's go back with a plane to relive the thread. :-[
Guess this!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/6vqc1gt27/Guess237.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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Looks very Italian... a 2-seater version of a fighter aircraft ?
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Looks like a very modified He113
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Vultee V-61, an early design stage (with a pointed nose) towards the P-66 Vanguard.
A complicated story as it seems.
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p66.html
"The P-48 aircraft was to have been powered by a Pratt & Whitney R-1830-S4C4-G air-cooled radial engine rated at 1200 hp for takeoff and 900 hp at 15,400 feet. According to the initial plan, the engine was to be enclosed in an orthodox cowling similar to that fitted to the Curtiss P-36. However, during construction it was decided to switch to an unorthodox long and pointed cowling on order to reduce aerodynamic drag. In order to accommodate the long and pointed cowling, the engine was fitted with a lengthened drive shaft. Engine cooling was provided by a retractable air intake fitted beneath the nose immediately behind the propeller spinner. The nose of the P-48 looked a lot like the nose of the abortive Curtiss XP-42.
The Model P-48 was given the civil designation NX21755, and was flown for the first time in September of 1939 by test pilot Vance Breese. The name *Vanguard* was chosen. Unfortunately, the Model P-48 ran into the same sort of engine cooling problems that bedeviled the Curtiss XP-42. After a few flights with the initial cowling configuration, the variable air intake underneath the nose was fixed in the open position and another scoop was added above the cowling. At the same time, the rudder area was increased.
[...]
The production version of the Model P-48 was to have been designated Model 61, but by the time of the P-48's landing accident it had already been decided to give up on the pointed-nose for the Vanguard, since the drag reduction that it provided was insufficient to justify the increased weight and the cooling problems that it caused. Consequently, the second prototype Vanguard, the Model 48X (NX19999), reverted to the orthodox radial engine cowling that had originally been planned. The Model 48X made its first flight on February 11, 1940."
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Super correct sniperton! ;D
I was hesitant to put it since the Vultee P-66 vanguarg had already appeared in this thread. :-[
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg567936.html#msg567936
But the one in the picture that I put, in the prototype stadium, the one you describe was sufficiently different and interesting to post it back. ;)
Your turn now!
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Thanks. Easy, but funny :D
(https://s15.postimg.cc/6nv61up17/quest20180724.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I think it's the: The Goodyear Inflatoplane
(https://cdn.acidcow.com/pics/20141021/inflatable_plane_04.jpg)
It was an inflatable experimental aircraft made by the Goodyear Aircraft Company, a subsidiary of Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company, well known for the Goodyear blimp. Although it seemed an improbable project, the finished aircraft proved to be capable of meeting its design objectives, although its sponsor, the United States Army, ultimately cancelled the project when it could not find a "valid military use for an aircraft that could be brought down by a well-aimed bow and arrow".
:)
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;D
Great, your turn :)
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OK All,
Here's another … enjoy :)
(https://image.ibb.co/fRFOg8/guess14.jpg)
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Bristol 188?
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That's it 51 !!! :)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Bristol_Type_188_Cosford.jpg)
The Bristol 188 is a British supersonic research aircraft built by the Bristol Aeroplane Company in the 1950s. Its length, slender cross-section and intended purpose led to its being nicknamed the "Flaming Pencil".
Your turn 51. :)
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Looks like a mini "HABU" :D
( the SR-71 "Blackbird")
Very cool
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This is an easy one and this plane is real by the way.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/egjwppw0h/C88_F867_C-_AB5_A-425_D-9_C36-_FFD6_DA29621_C.png)
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This is the Yak 110. :)
Strapping two airframes together to create an entirely new airplane has actually been done quite a few times in aviation history. You may know about the famous F-82 'Twin' Mustang. Using two Yak 55's, the team assembled this hybrid that includes dual controls from either cockpit. Recently the aircraft made its first flight after a year of construction and three years of planning. Test Flown by Len Fox, an experienced test pilot with over 54 experimental types under his belt, the patchwork Yak performed almost flawlessly. However, that's not where the story ends - these 'Fat Tire Cowboys' (as the team like to be known) have even bigger plans than merely strapping two aerobatic aircraft together. Namely, they want to add another engine to make it a tri-motor. The plan was to slap a jet engine on the underside of this thing.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.flitetest.com/editor_images%2F1523608862997-Yak-110.jpg)
The artist's impression of how the finished bird will look gives a good indication of the uniqueness of this project. This, however, is nothing on actually seeing and hearing the results for yourself. This project was conceptualised by display pilot Jeff Boerboon. Now the third engine has been installed, the Yak will be gearing up to perform at airshows in 2018 in the hands of Jeff himself. What with the noise of not only the two radial engines but a turbojet as well, the spectacle should be quite something to say the least.
(https://image.ibb.co/fMg29T/con_Yak_071818.jpg)
:)
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Promiscuity, what a shame for this decent and politically correct site and thread :P
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Looks like they stuck a V-1 flying "Buzz" bomb between those 2 airplanes :D
Very cool and wild idea!
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I was present at Oshkosh for the display of this beauty. She was magnificent.
Your turn DH
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Thanks 51,
OK all … here's another … have fun. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/jRcFET/guess15.jpg)
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Northrop MX-324/MX-334 (1943/1944): used in the development of the XP-79. The MX-334 was a glider and the MX-324 was rocket-powered.
Open round if I'm correct.
Adamo
(https://s33.postimg.cc/ipwr00ov3/main-qimg-90094da18624a3777402e9505ee2ff2f.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Try this one......
(https://s33.postimg.cc/ofczkli9b/877_F503_B-_B481-4_A2_C-_AFA6-_B4_E948_F2_E4_CB.jpg)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/l8ig0z5j3/9903894_C-_A75_E-4_BCA-_B5_D5-1_A7341_E277_CA.jpg)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/qwoqru7an/A680441_D-_CCA7-4_F89-991_F-018_A31_D93005.jpg)
Good luck and have fun.
James
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Well one thing is for sure, that radiator makes a better door than a windscreen … lol :)
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YES !!!! … I found it. :)
It's the: Chalais-Meudon CM-5 Airship Engine Nacelle
I got the clue from you James … and where you work. ;)
This engine nacelle is the oldest major European lighter-than-air artifact in the United States. It was part of the CM-5, a French World War I non-rigid airship. The airship was sold to the U.S. Navy for European coastal patrol. It came to this country following the war, whereupon Goodyear acquired it, briefly considering the airship for an Akron-to-Detroit air service. Of particular interest, is the mechanic's work space behind the Salmson Z 9-cylinder radial engine.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/K_class_blimp.jpg/1200px-K_class_blimp.jpg)
Current location: The New England Air Museum is located at Windsor Locks, CT (James's work place) :)
http://www.neam.org/index.php (http://www.neam.org/index.php)
:)
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You posted the wrong picture. That blimp that you posted is the K-28.
This is the correct airship:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/dfbuvjkb5/ED807_DFF-5_D42-48_B5-_A8_F5-_A81293_C1524_A.jpg)
(https://s22.postimg.cc/wkf45b6ox/FC189_E2_B-_F4_F4-4_AA4-8_E57-04065_DCCB3_B2.jpg)
It’s your turn.
James
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Hello All,
Thanks James for posting the correct photo of the blimp, much appreciated. :)
Here's my next photo … enjoy.
(https://image.ibb.co/gCt1r8/guess16.jpg)
:)
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An early NOTAR? (Though not by Hughes or MDD...)
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Mex,
I don’t think so. It looks like it might have tip jets.
French maybe?
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French maybe?
Getting warmer :)
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Here's a clue, the nose is actually a prop spinner. :)
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SNCASO SO1310 Farfadet | Sud-Ouest (SNCASO)-Aerospatiale)
I got nothing so open round when confirmed.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/m8pqtqp6n/77a546f041b585f210d7c6b3eefe12d1--military.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Well done Adamo !!!
I thought the prop spinner hint would give it away. :)
Open round as Adamo has differed.
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Here:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/f0yzg2z7l/7_C0_ABA48-_FBC2-4_DCE-_ADE4-0_B3_B0179_FC9_B.jpg)
James
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That would be a Hawker Horsley
The Hawker Horsley was a British single-engined biplane bomber of the 1920s. It was the last all-wooden aircraft built by Hawker Aircraft, and served as a medium day bomber and torpedo bomber with Britain's Royal Air Force between 1926 and 1935, as well as the navies of Greece and Denmark.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/3m4lwb633/167801_big.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/z5un6ec97/)
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Correct again
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Thanks P51vsFw190.
Try this one.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/jwinyf56n/Quest.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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SAB AB-20, French heavy night bomber prototype
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You got it Radoye. ;D
Your go.
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OK how about this:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/yyuw9e03j/guess.jpg)
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That plane goes by the same name like the second part of the F-16, believe it or not 8)
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Indeed! :D
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I believe it is this:
The Weiss WM-21 Sólyom (English: Falcon)
It was a 1930s Hungarian light bomber and reconnaissance biplane developed by the Manfred Weiss company. It served in World War Two, often accompanied by other old, or else substandard, planes.
Throughout the war, the Royal Hungarian Air Force used 48 of them for reconnaissance. They served alongside 38 Heinkel He 46s, and 37 IMAM Ro.37s, supplemented by 13 Heinkel He 111s. They first entered service in 1939 with short-range reconnaissance units. Although they were active during the 1940 dispute with Romania, their first active operational use was during the Axis invasion of Yugoslavia in April 1941.
During the invasion of Yugoslavia, none of the WM-21's were lost in combat, but one was lost in an accident. From June 1941 they were used to support Hungarian Army units in Ukraine, and then against Soviet partisans. They lost another WM-21 on June 29, when the war against the Soviet Union was intensifying.
Around 80 aircraft were also transferred to duties as trainers, as they were removed from operational use, until 1945.
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/spyww2/wm21/wm21-1.jpg)
:)
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That is correct, your turn!
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Thanks Radoye,
OK All … here's another :)
(https://image.ibb.co/dsEcoo/guess16.jpg)
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Isn't it written on the side?
(https://s8.postimg.cc/d5erkfg8z/IAIO_Qaher-313_5.jpg)
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F-313. The totally for real not a mockup Iranian 7th gen fighter
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Nice work Mexchiwa !!! :)
The IAIO Qaher-313 Conqueror (Tamer), F-313) is a planned Iranian single-seat stealth fighter aircraft that was publicly announced on 1 February 2013. A press presentation about the project was made by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi on 2 February 2013, as part of the Ten-Day Dawn ceremonies. Independent experts have expressed significant doubts about the viability of the aircraft.
On 15 April 2017, the prototype Qaher-313 conducted taxi tests. This prototype, designated "08", introduced a number of changes over the models previously showcased, most notably an enlarged cockpit, dual jet exhausts, and a FLIR turret in the nose.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PZy2381tkr0/WPJb-vOnoQI/AAAAAAAAP7w/xX0MNJah2zYq3ZcmZTtSCloLNpMtdgEXQCLcB/s1600/919470_452.jpg)
Your turn Mexchiwa. :)
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Open house
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OK i got one for you:
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/8ca667c59ee75f1991d5056e686087c8/tumblr_inline_paxh7cMfF81t90ue7_500.jpg)
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I believe it's the:
IAR CV11 - Reserve Fighter
The first original aircraft design produced by the Industria Aeronautica Romana (I.A.R), established in 1925, was the CV-11 single-seat fighter completed and flown, in 1930. Designed by Elie Carafoli and a French engineer, M Virmoux, the CV-11 was of mixed construction and powered by a 600hp 12-cylinder W-type Lorraine 12Fa Courlis engine, armament comprising two 7.7mm Vickers machine guns. After completion of the initial flight test programme, the Lorraine engine was replaced by a 500hp Hispano-Suiza 12Mc 12- cylinder Vee-type engine with which it was tested at Jstres during the first quarter of 1931. It then returned to Romania, where, on 9 December 1931, the CV-11 made an attempt on the 500km closed-circuit speed record. However, an engine failure necessitated a forced landing in which the pilot, Capt Romeo Popescu, was killed. Further development of the basic design by Carafoli led to the I.A.R.12.
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/fww1/cv11/cv11-3.jpg)
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That's what it is, your turn!
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Thanks Radoye.
OK all … try this :)
(https://image.ibb.co/fLdMFe/guess17.jpg)
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I know this one. Deperdussin GB racer
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You got it fresco23 !!! :)
The Deperdussin Monocoque was an early racing aircraft built in 1912 by the Aéroplanes Deperdussin, a French aircraft manufacturer started in 1911 and reorganized as the Société Pour L'Aviation et ses Dérivés (SPAD) in 1913. It is so named because of the method of construction of its fuselage. The aircraft is noted for winning the Gordon Bennett Trophy in 1912 and 1913, and for raising the world speed record for aircraft to 130 mph (210 km/h).
(http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/4/1/6/2734614.jpg?v=v40)
Your turn fresco23. :)
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Awesome! Did a quick search and turned up nothing so here goes! I like the style of this one! Best luck!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/4hhdu6p1r/Aircraft.jpg)
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Slingsby Type 1 Falcon, I believe?
https://jackrussellstales.weebly.com/type-1--2-falcon.html
EDIT: Or maybe the Falke that inspired it... they look very much alike.
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Forgive me for jumping in here, but what type is this please?
Crashed in the next field over the Piddle Brook to us yesterday.
Susan was in the garden and heard it, thought it was a combine or tractor trailer turning over. She doesn't recall any engine sound "just a clattering noise", so power failure perhaps?
Fortunately pilot and passenger had minor injuries and were not hospitalised. Wheat had just been cut, so reducing possible fire risk in our dry conditions.
(https://s8.postimg.cc/mtv0j99g5/crash.jpg.gallery.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Robinson R22.
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Perfect Gianky! Your turn!
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Guess we are still waiting for Gianky to post their pic. :) Or, to be open or not to be open? … that is the question. :)
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Rules says Open round! :o
Lets go with easy one to relive the thread! ;D
(https://s33.postimg.cc/ejuty9h1r/guess-408.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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Vickers Wellington Mk VI
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Of course james! ;D
you turn!
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Here’s another easy one:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/yxf87cfdd/7_B504535-_FC6_D-4_ADA-_B0_F5-_C029_E4_D09_F9_E.jpg)
James
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Here’s another easy one:
~snip~
James
It's a plane. 8)
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Consolidated Corregidor.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RlwAAOSw03lY6lB-/s-l300.jpg)
Open round.
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Nice job and as Radoye said:
Open round
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Easy, fancy and eighty ;D
(https://s33.postimg.cc/g45od4a4f/Guess608.png) (https://postimages.org/)
If you can guess also the pilot name! ;)
Cheers!
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That is the converted Aérospatiale SA-341G Gazelle from the film Blue Thunder
The pilot is Frank Murphy played by Roy Schneider
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Yes … yes it is :)
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Might as well go:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/43n518nn5/A580_B8_D6-217_C-4901-92_D6-5_A913_D60_B8_BD.jpg)
James
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I know it but I’ll let someone else play. It was so easy to find it felt like cheating.
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This is the: 1929 BUHL SPORT AIRSEDAN
The Buhl Airsedan was a civil utility aircraft manufactured in the United States by Buhl Aircraft Company in the late 1920s and early 30s. Later models featured gradually increased seating and larger engines, but all were conventional sesquiplanes with fully enclosed cockpits and passenger cabins.
After Buhl ceased operations, the drawings and jigs were purchased and a small number of CA-6's were built in Canada by the Ontario Provincial Air Service (OPAS) for use as fire spotting aircraft.
(http://www.goldenwingsmuseum.com/collection/AC-Images/Buhl-1.jpg)
If confirmed, open round as I'm leaving on vacation later today. :)
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Have a good vacation.
Open round as declared by DH.
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Open round calls for something like this:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/4us49ndsv/quest_2018-08-07.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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That is a Wellington used as a test bed for the Whittle jet engine.
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...and that's so damn right that the baton has to go to... Radoye!
]cheers[
Mike
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OK try this:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4347/37198211752_f496297611_b.jpg)
Last one of its type in existence, in this sad state...
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Looks a bit like a mix between a Dove and a Mossie ;)
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I.Ae. 24 Calquin?
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Nope. European.
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Ohh, then it’s a DH-104 Dove 6.
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Can't be because:
Last one of its type in existence
There should be at least 4 Dove 6 survivors.
]cheers[
Mike
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I could have sworn that it's somehow related to the Dove from the development line, however now I rather think it's this one:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/vk364pteb/Ikarus_214-_P_mjrv1.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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I’ll give it one more go and if I don’t get it I’ll wait a couple quests till I go again.
Total shot in the dark:
Ikarus 214?
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Why shot in the dark? You're obviously right.
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Yep, Ikarus 214, ASW / recce bomber from 1950's Yugoslavia. 22 built (including prototypes) in several variants, further development abandoned after realization that the role of medium bomber is becoming quickly obsolete given the fact that the modern jet fighter-bombers can do the job and then some.
The wreck in the photo is the last airframe in existence and is currently awaiting better times at the Belgrade Museum of Aviation when funding will be available to have it restored for display.
Not sure who should get the turn, since both Mike and James got it right. :)
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What I find strange in Mike's contribution that he didn't named it as an F-35 o_O
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I've been cheating and actually I'm still convinced it's an F-35 so... the baton goes to James ;)
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Here:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/5s6jxjpjl/A9_C7_B6_C8-1_B3_F-4_EBA-_AB76-_DBB973_F87_CE7.jpg)
James
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You can see the quest aircraft in even more detail here: ;)
(https://s15.postimg.cc/ohj1pqdjv/quest20180808.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Canadian perhaps?
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;)
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Its is the Canadian Car and Foundry FDB-1. I believe sometime in the past there
was a a mod available at SAS for it based on the I-152... but as usual I could be
wrong o_O
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The correct designation is Gregor FDB-1.
It’s your turn D-Rexs
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I got nothing so, Open Round.
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I’ll put in a quick and easy one:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/nhz1ro1dt/BBC89323-_D39_A-48_AA-_A69_B-_FD6_A169_A3_EE1.jpg)
James
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Looks like a Fokker PW-5 a little
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Not quite. Close but so far.
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I’ll put in a quick and easy one:
I like your sense of humour. I'm eager to learn what is to be known of this glider conversion apart from that single photo taken of it in 1921? :P
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Gentlemen ... you just have to play as detective! ;D
It is clear from the stands, that the plane is at an aviation fair (A.Villedieu) (Bristol Plane Co.LTD)
As can be seen, the plane has no engine, and it seems that the cockpit was placed in its front, to reestablish the balance of the center of gravity.
You just have to look at the rest of its parts: wings, rudder, elevator, elevator and wheels.
For me it is based on this:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/ez3e6vysf/Fokker_V29.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
;)
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Perhaps its a glider for testing the wing design? :-|
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Alright,
Loco got the closest. This glider is in fact the Fokker V 30 (A glider modification of the original V 26). It is just a basic D.VIII without an engine and the cockpit moved in front of the wing.
This picture was taken at the Pans Aero Salon in 1921.
Loco, it is your turn.
James
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LOL! ;D
Okay ... I did not want to guess ... since there are several who also knew. :-[
I wanted to start a little joke like the prawn ... :D
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg645417.html#msg645417
It started there and continued for 3 entire pages ... ;)
Well, if it's my turn, let's try this:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/d6xk9gjfj/anc_-119.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/elz4y6kij/)
Regards!
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That’s a Westland Welkin. High altitude development of the whirlwind designed to counter the feared renewal of luftwaffe high altitude bombing. Few were completed. Which is a shame. It’s a great looking aircraft.
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I wanted to start a little joke like the prawn ... :D
I like prawn, you like prawn, we like prawn. We're in the same boot, cheers ;D
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Right Fresco! ;D
The only plane that had less area of flight speed between the stall and the high speed stall, was the Yak-25RV. :o
you turn now!
Sniperton... we know you like the prawn, and you are of the selected group "of no alergic" that can tasty this delisiouss. James cant... he hate prawns. ;)
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Open Round on me!
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Something somehow related to guess:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/iqjenrt1x/quest_2018-08-12.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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It is a Martin Night Intruders & General Dynamics RB/WB-57-F version "Canberra"
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Absolutely correct max, your turn 8)
By the way, if I'm not totally wrong, the NASA is still flying 2 or 3 of these, because they fill the same role like the TR-2 (U-2) does, but can carry much more load.
]cheers[
Mike
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If you only put "annular wing plane" in google, appears inside the first images.
Annular... like the rings of Saturn or the only of Uranus. ;)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/iqsl3k1z3/Ur_anus.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Sorry for the gross joke ... In the Argentine lunfardo (funny idiomatic code) I would say "you left it bouncing" (referring to leaving a football socer goal barely insured) with which it is justified to be vulgar and discourteous. ;D
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If you only put "annular wing plane" in google, appears inside the first images.
Annular... like the rings of Saturn or the only of Uranus. ;)
Sorry for the gross joke ... In the Argentine lunfardo (funny idiomatic code) I would say "you left it bouncing" (referring to leaving a football socer goal barely insured) with which it is justified to be vulgar and discourteous. ;D
I do not understand what you wrote. - No entiendo lo que escribiste Locopiston.
If you did a Google search for the name "annular wing airplane" , you would have found the answer. ;)
What is the name of this aircraft and /or its inventor?
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I’ll just leave this website here for you guys...... ;)
https://wingsofintent.blogspot.com/?m=0
James
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Excuse me for my idiotic joke ... :(
It was a very River Plate thing ... very silly, but obviously difficult to explain. :-|
And if you have to explain a joke, it is no longer a joke. ;)
I did not want to upset anyone.
No te enojes amigo! :-[
The plane that had posted max before all this was a Lee-Richards annular monoplane of 1913. Just before the war.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/a1favg7xr/Lee_richards_annular_monoplane.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8mdq6q6uj/)
regards!
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No problema Locopiston, Max tenido un mal día hoy. I almost broke my leg.
You guessed correct, your turn ;)
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Okay!
I hope your leg is well! :o
let's try this little thing ... ;D
(https://s33.postimg.cc/ovcbz61i7/guess138.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/j76189x5n/)
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Looks odd for an early F-35, but that's life when you wanna build something really expensive and fancy looking 8)
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Rockwell Hi-Mat?
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That looks like something that was from a 1970´s cartoon from Japan - "Gatchaman"
So cool ! 8)
In the USA it was called "BATTLE OF THE PLANETS "
I do believe Mexchiwa got it correct.
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While the three are right, the one that came closest was Mex. ;)
Effectively it is the Rockwell RPRV-870 HiMAT (Highly Maneuverable Aircraft Technology) for NASA. A model of radio control at 1/2 scale with very high G
you turn mex!
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Open house
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Sorry for the bad image quality, but this one is straight from a book.
Guess the plane shown on the left:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/67wvubtx1/quest_2018-08-15.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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French ?
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Only the wine you need to fight the fear of taking off with it.
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Me-262 V1?
the wings, the canopy... but what's that weird stripe around the triangular fuselage? Never seen this before.
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Spot on Andy.
The stripe is slightly shopped, this is the original image:
(https://s8.postimg.cc/x4gv2pplx/quest.jpg)
The plane indeed is the Jumo 210 equipped Me 262 V1.
Your turn!
]cheers[
Mike
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SHOPPED! A SCANDAL! :D
let me think about it....
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Oh, yeth. Thwow him to the floor.
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(https://orig00.deviantart.net/36cf/f/2018/227/4/c/guess_by_ryofuxxx-dck7mb0.jpg)
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Henri Fabre Hydravion?
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Rather a homework for 3rd grade pupils: Fold yourself a really, really big paperplane 8)
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Henri Fabre Hydravion?
correct, it was the very first water plane.
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This is the only time you will ever hear this from me.
Open Round!
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Well in that case...
I'm not asking for who that guy on the pilot seat is. It's James, we all know it.
I'm asking what kind of aircraft he's sitting in.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/hbq4zocy7/DSC_0014.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cpu0rbrez/)
]cheers[
Mike
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Plane ? sure ? I think more about helicopter...
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Agreed let's say "aircraft".
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Bell UH-1,
the shoes are Adidas "Universal" (red bars = Vienna, blue bars = Rom) ;D
8)
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Close call but no cigar :P
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the shoes are Adidas "Universal" (red bars = Vienna, blue bars = Rom) ;D
lol can you guess the shampoo brand from the looks of hair shininess?
I'm not asking for who that guy on the pilot seat is. It's James, we all know it.
You just need one more James to control the pedals Mike 8)
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I see what you did there Mike........ ;)
Kaman SH-2 Seasprite. At the New England Air Museum, my place of employment.
James
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Much to my surprise, James is right 8)
Your turn James!
]cheers[
Mike
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Great!
Try this:
(https://s15.postimg.cc/fzds3ipgr/1_C82_E459-0_A2_B-4671-9_A98-1_F12_EB44776_E.jpg)
James
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Now that it's obviouls U.S. built, it's an F-35 apparently.
Not sure which one is the lift engine, left or right, but this is an F-35C for that reason.
]cheers[
Mike
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Captured...
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I have a déja-vu feeling regarding this elegant crate, but I'm too lazy to search the thread backwards to verify that we already had this. Gaston is right, it's a captured plane:
(https://s15.postimg.cc/8i4kol2l7/quest20180816.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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A captured F-35 with U.S. markings?
Did civil war start in the U.S. again?
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After all, there are two U.S. soldiers on the picture, one for each engine, one for the left, one for the right.
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I think it is a Mitsubishi Ki-83 heavy fighter.
was part of a expansion pack for the long lost Aces of the Pacific flight sim
Dynamix 1992...
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They continue to cause casualties in my "planes to guess" folder ::(
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After all, there are two U.S. soldiers on the picture, one for each engine, one for the left, one for the right.
Not US soldiers and not related to the engines either.
These are the two chock bitches, Transvestites who like to dress up in uniform ]bootyshake[
]cheers[
Mike
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D-rexs is correct.
It’s your turn.
James
P.S. Loco, I did this puposely. I have an active link to your folder of aircraft ;D
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I have nothing, open round
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taking into account the open round and that I have some Trojan in my aircraft folder to guess, let's provide this:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/5z9v6wzwf/guess-178.png) (https://postimages.org/)
I'm going to have to start sending all the fruit. ;D
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Unconventional or bizarre aircraft are too easy to find. This one from 1912 has never flown, but its successor did:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/6rvew2ysv/quest20180817.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Amazing machine! ;D
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That thing isn't really flying, it's tied to the firmament, isn't it?
]cheers[
Mike
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Yep, you can actually see the extra struts specifically used for hanging. ;D
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The one of riddle was not fly. Some say that his son (as he says sniperton) yes ... ;)
I agree more with Mike. ;D
Safety First! :o
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Safety? I guess no. Such old planes can only be seen hung up in museums. Maybe the designer made a provision for such a use, maybe the plane was specifically made for museum display. 8)
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boring! :(
let's see again the damn multiplane
(https://s33.postimg.cc/j1g9s8er3/howarsd_huntington_multiplane.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
;)
someone can say his damn brand? o_O
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Fine! If no one else will answer it I will.
It’s the 1914 Howard Huntington Multiplane.
It was later modified into a single monoplane called the Clam.
James
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So far as I know, the Clam was from 1914, the multiplane was from 1912.
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Of course james... you still undefeat! ;D
surprise us! ;)
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Try this then:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/hhtbcyki7/C9_B5_C9_A2-1_E52-434_E-91_FB-2946_C11_B30_B4.jpg)
James
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The fancy and childlike design of the front cokpit, with central stiles of the upper wing gives it an adventurous and feminine look. ;)
A plane to enjoy the wind with your ear while you look at a hart grazing. ;D
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That’s a nice visual Loco.
If no one gets it in two days lets just move to an open round.
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Kinner Airster
Amelia Earhart flew one - and crashed one
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Lame, welcome back to the quest.
Your turn my friend.
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Thank you, James.
Been enjoying the unusually long and lovely summer, so I decided that the terrace trumped the computer.
I have several more og less beastly suggestions in the pipeline, so here is a difficult one:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/ahqhyhne7/SASQuiz51.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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a two-seater glider; disconcerting due to its small wingspan o_O
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Not a glider
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Based on a glider? Jet?
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No to both
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It's European
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I look forward to our Undefeated Champion of the Quest resolving the riddle 8)
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From what I can see the aircraft is most likely British in origin. It has shoulder mounted monoplane wings. A conventional tail is used but I cannot dertermine its shape although if it was seen it would probably give away the manufacturer. It is most likely a pod and boom design with a side by side cockpit reminiscent of a Cessna T-37. It has single tandem wheel gear located on the centerline and are probably retractable. It has outrigger wheels like those used on the U-2 as well as a distinct nose skid. As has been said already it is not a glider nor is it based on one. The propulsion is not jet as stated earlier and it’s definitely not rocket powered. Because of it’s size I’d like to wager that a small internal combustion engine is used and is buried in the center fuselage to drive a retractable post that mounts the rear facing prop.
This is all spectulation of course. I’d have to search through my library to find this gem. While I am doing so, please feel free to use my speculatory information to help you with your induvidual searches.
Cheers!
James
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Hello All,
Back from vacation. :) To add to James's insight, I think it maybe a homebuilt aircraft. The area in which the photo was taken has a great many civil aircraft. Just a thought. :)
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James summarized pretty well what makes this plane so unique. I'd add that it's really fat and it's nose is round in shape, not pointed, resembling more a transport glider or a heli, and speaking for low-speed operation together with the wings, which, in turn, are too small for a glider, but too big for a high-speed plane. I see no sign of any air intake, so it has either rocket propulsion (I don't think so), or none, or something highly unconventional. Electric maybe? My first thought was that it was a large drone or a flying bomb, but it seems more civilian than military despite the shark teeth. Moreover, it doesn't seem as old as the b/w photo suggests, anyway, congrats to LameHawk, it's really nasty and teaches us not to be over-confident in our knowledge. :D
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it is seen that with knowledge it is not enough to find this two-seater of mysterious propulsion. o_O
Let's play the detective: ;D
If we find out what the other planes are, we may detect the aerodrome and there we can investigate the collection.
In the background, the twin engine seems to have G-AS? registration ...
and the airplane itself is marked on the wing. ?-S?H
With my cheating knowledge of passing color photos to black and white I can say that it is red or blue. :-[
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And it has a sharks mouth, so it was obviously flown by the Flying Tigers...
My work here is done.
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And it has a sharks mouth, so it was obviously flown by the Flying Tigers...
By the shape of sharks mouth I would say Zerstörergeschwader 76 :-|
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It's been an interesting array of answers with much good thinking (I've got some easier ones for a future occasion).
Before it's time for a hint I'd just like to say that from the above information - choosing the right search terms - it is possible to find the aircraft.
And loco: it is red
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Then would it be something like that? :-|
(https://s33.postimg.cc/jnjzk018f/guess.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Colours tend to cheat on a screen, but it is probably slightly darker.
And it is not related to any rubber planes.
It is a civilian plane but has also been used by an air force
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Does it have a reciprocating engine?
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Yes it does 8)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/xvjbj1c27/1132779.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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It is a Alaparma Baldo AM75... I found it on a UK aircraft registration site using
its call letter, here's the description from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaparma_Baldo
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Congrats, Loco and Mike, the front view shown by LameHawk disguised so many characteristic features of this plane that you deserve a shitload of cigar, while d-rexs is getting the baton ;D
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Agree with Sniper.
Mike clearly found the plane, but being slightly candid about it left it to d-rexs to actually name the plane.
d-rexs - your turn.
Perhaps James ought to be mentioned in the despatches as well. His analysis of the picture prompted me to try the following google search: "pusher engine outrigger wheels" - and there it was.
According to the Wikithing (to be trusted with care) about 35 were built, 10 of those were used by the Italian Air Force.
Seems like the teeth were painted on by an Italian owner Guido Di Pietro back in 1965 before it was sold to England.
A few more pictures - and for the benefit of loco - a couple in colour!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/mq396sxan/Baldo.1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pwxsqfhqj/)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/mq396ts5r/Baldo-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/vxvhnjenj/Baldo-3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/i474yiwcv/Baldo-4.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Perhaps James ought to be mentioned in the despatches as well. His analysis of the picture prompted me to try the following google search: "pusher engine outrigger wheels" - and there it was.
Do you mean that Google finds the "Baby Pusher" from Pinterest on the 2nd place? Thing is, on the frontal picture nothing hints at a pusher prop, and James indeed deserves a cigar (icecream, ale, steak, or whatever he prefers, provided no seafood is concerned) for he envisioned something that cannot be seen. Prost! ]cheers[
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Lol! ]laughing4]
Very good! we want more challenges like that! :o
I realize that I am better at guessing colors in black and white than airplanes! ;D
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Well ladies and gents, I got lucky.... searching the call letters was cheating a little (ok a lot)
so I declare open round cause I have nothing that would remotely challenge anyone on this
site.
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I got one:
(http://www.spoonercentral.com/Bonney/726_09_56.jpg)
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I believe it is: The Bonney Gull :)
The Bonney Gull was an experimental aircraft that used variable incidence wings with bird-like shapes. Leonard Warden Bonney was an early aviator, who flew with the Wright Exhibition Team as early as 1910. An experienced aviator with service in the First World War, Bonney set out to develop a plane with more efficient wings and controls than contemporary aircraft. Noting the gull's two to one lift to weight ratio, he set about molding gull wings for their shape. Construction took place over the course of five years. The ideas were tested in MIT and the Daniel Guggenheim School of Aeronautics wind tunnels.
Bonney was unable to find a willing test pilot and chose to fly the aircraft himself. He performed a test hop, damaging the landing gear once. On 4 May 1928 Bonney took up another aircraft on a flight, then announced he would test fly the Gull that day. Bonney was killed during the maiden flight when the aircraft nosedived into the ground from about 50 feet of altitude, seconds after taking off from Curtiss Field on Long Island. Pathé News was onsite to film the first flight. The newsreel shows the aircraft experiencing a roll to the left which was corrected, and a single oscillation in pitch before nosing straight down into the ground tossing out Bonney. Bonney was taken to Mineola Hospital where he died.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8034/8008662086_99f436946d_b.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2709/5829015278_228c127553_b.jpg)
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You are correct DH, your turn! :)
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Thanks Radoye,
Ok All … here's another.
(https://image.ibb.co/ctER09/sasguess001.jpg)
:)
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SNCASO SO.8000 Narval
(https://s33.postimg.cc/yktw0fumn/image.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/hkazrs4qn/565_Vl6-_User_View-0.png) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/uogk4gp2n/img_2010.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/qfbu2ae3j/sud-ouest-so8000-narval-strike-fighter-prototype-france.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Well done Geschirrspülmaschine19 !!!
Your turn. :)
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Thanks @DHumphrey, here's my attempt. Good luck!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/73hk3ddb3/Airplane.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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A French German.
The Blohm & Voss BV 144.
Intended to be a post war airliner. Two - slowly - built in France.
Tested by the French after the war until scrapped
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You got it LameHawk. That was fast.
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Does that "19" in your name imply that you've hade 18 before?
Anyway - this one ought to be somewhat easier than the previous one
(https://s33.postimg.cc/tkadyigtb/SASQuiz52_2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That was fast.
Yep … these folks here very good at finding the answers, most of the time … very quickly. :)
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It’s a modified SAAB 91 Safir used as a testbed for the J29 Tunnan wing planform.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/dqyovovvl/1190_F245-_BC37-4_E15-_A7_BC-5768_B37_DCCFC.jpg)
It was even the subject of a conversion kit for a model.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/952kni2oh/36583138-_E3_A4-463_F-_A5_CA-6_DEF6334_A5_BA.jpg)
James
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Absolutely right you are, James.
Your turn again ;D
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I don’t think this one has been done before:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/6ekiikik1/E99844_B8-21_D0-4665-94_B5-3_C7_DD37_BE6_BA.jpg)
James
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"Japs! I repeat: Japs!" © Gubi (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?action=profile;u=4895).
]cheers[
Mike
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Why do you feel the need to do that?
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Because he feels reluctant to name it an F-35. Anyway, he seems to be right ;)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/u8k5k0q7j/quest180827.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ezu868wiz/)
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If the bomb aimer misses his target, it looks as if he is grilled instantly
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That aircraft has one serious landing light or searchlight, not sure which. :)
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DH, that would indeed be a landing light. It looks as though it could melt me if I stood too close.
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Why do you feel the need to do that?
Didn't want to offend you :P
that would indeed be a landing light
That's an optical data coupler, one of the secret technologies they developed together with the germans.
It could send information about enemy positions straight to the nazi moon base, or the antarctic one for the same matter.
The prop blades crossing the data beam somewhat limited the available baud rates though, which is why they later used flying saucers for relay stations.
]cheers[
Mike
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That's an optical data coupler, one of the secret technologies they developed together with the germans.
It could send information about enemy positions straight to the nazi moon base, or the antarctic one for the same matter.
The prop blades crossing the data beam somewhat limited the available baud rates though, which is why they later used flying saucers for relay stations.
]cheers[
Mike
Mike, I don't wish to offend, but I've been known to smoke a bit of weed now and again, I've even progressed to smoking some of those fancy weed oils in the electric cig's … now I'm not quite sure what you've been smoking, but I sure as hell want to try some … LOL !!!!
:)
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Seems you got me wrong: This was absolutely serious :P
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Here is a better picture to look at:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/dwk7owm2n/7_C7308_DF-47_B7-4_A13-_B547-_D9_DF4_BCE662_F.jpg)
James
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The really interesting part about that aircraft, and your second picture shows it quite nicely, are the engines.
These are 18 cylinder W engines, not all too common.
]cheers[
Mike
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Uuups, I'm very sorry, based on the first pic I thought it was a Ki-1, but now I see it's the Hiro G2H1. Apologies for the wrong close-up picture that may have misguided some of you. :-[
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Correct Sniperton.
Your turn.
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I like crazy things, but I'm sure it will be quite easy to ID it.
Edit: I can't attach it right now, so I declare it open round.
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This one should be quick since it is so distinctive:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/todlaa28x/2_CA5_A488-_EE04-44_C8-_BCB1-4_A1_E6_F051_B09.jpg)
James
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Did that thing actually fly?
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Yes
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Haven't seen that monster before - looks like an early attempt at a "carplane"
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Found it
Voisin Icare
Flew 1912
(https://s33.postimg.cc/91ipkvxz3/av_1912_icare_2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Correct Lame.
Did you know that it was built to be a flying boat?
Anyway, it’s your turn.
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It does look like a bathtub, but I haven't been able to verify if it ever alighted on water.
And this one looks like ...
(https://s33.postimg.cc/3obhnrte7/SASQuiz53.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Chipmunk 23
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Exactly the one. Take note of the small pipes protruding from under the wings.
It's the agricultural spraying version, and here it is at work
(https://s33.postimg.cc/m1uyo5dy7/1434593271902.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
You again, James (don't you ever get tired?!)
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To answer your question, Nope.
Try this easy one:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/g6h9bewhd/A0_FD868_A-7_F30-4075-_B857-1_E7207_C850_E0.jpg)
James
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Ha!
That's a piece of cake: F-35B!
]cheers[
Mike
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Dammit; Mike beat me to it, the VTOL ability instantly gives it away.
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That one's easy. Kaman K-16B. A converted Grumman Goose to test VTOL capabilities.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/rtwghfxgf/Vertigoose_Kaman_K-16_B.jpg)
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Ha!
That's a piece of cake: F-35B!
]cheers[
Mike
Damn Mike !!! … I've said it before and I'll say it again: I want some of what your smoke'n !!! LOL :)
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Dunno if this can be smoked, but that's my only drug - I swear! - even though I have to admit that I consume it in MASSES:
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/1890/44378427161_cc6d069018_c.jpg) (https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/1890/44378427161_8e34057d7b_o.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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That one's easy. Kaman K-16B. A converted Grumman Goose to test VTOL capabilities.
Correct Fresco. Your turn.
For bonus points can you please tell us where this interesting convertiplane now resides?
James
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That one's easy. Kaman K-16B. A converted Grumman Goose to test VTOL capabilities.
Correct Fresco. Your turn.
For bonus points can you please tell us where this interesting convertiplane now resides?
James
I'm think'n it's at the barn where you work James :) Just a guess.
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Close enough.
You win........nothing!
Fresco, it’s still your turn.
James
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Thanks! I’m out of town, no pc, and with no chance to find a next aircraft. Open round on me.
Have a great weekend all!
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Well, if so, we're going with an easy one because of its unusual configuration ;D
(https://s33.postimg.cc/vxlhagddb/gues109.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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I think this is it: The Salmson-Moineau S.M.1 A
The Salmson-Moineau S.M.1 A3, (later re-designated Salmson Sal. 1 A3), was a French armed three-seat biplane long range reconnaissance aircraft of the First World War designed by René Moineau for the Salmson company.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SH9qVpSdHXo/WEtSMjAek1I/AAAAAAAAGHI/M4W1UulODcs5NG8P93GzqXVV4tVDlQ_AACEw/s1600/Salmson-Moineau%2BS.M.1.jpg)
The aircraft was tested in early 1916 and was sufficiently successful to receive an order for 100 aircraft although the performance was inferior to the Sopwith 1½ Strutter. In service the S.M.1 was not successful. The nose-wheel undercarriage would collapse if misused and this caused many accidents. The complicated transmission system was difficult to service in the field and the performance of the aircraft was poor. It appears that around 155 S.M.1s were built in total. The type was largely withdrawn from service in 1917 but a small number of aircraft remained in use until late 1918. Some S.M.1s were supplied to the Imperial Russian Air Service, but they were no better liked in Russia.
:)
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very close! :o
but it is still not the right one! :(
The difference is that what you name has two engines and three that I put. ;D
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Ahh …. how could've I missed that !!! I was able to find the correct version, I think. :)
The Salmson-Moineau SM.2
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Yes!
is you turn DHumprey! ;D
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Thanks loco. :)
Ok All, here's another, enjoy.
(https://image.ibb.co/cDgoHz/sasguess2.jpg)
:)
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That's a very big sushi roll holder on floats.
]cheers[
Mike
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Yes Mike …. Yes it is. :)
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I can not believe that the trivia was stopped by one so easy... :-|
Blériot III
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bl%C3%A9riot_III
I had it in my old easy folder... :-[
I hope not to be ruining some joke ;D
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Well done loco !!! :)
Nope you are not ruining a joke, so rest easy. :)
Your turn.
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Loco hasn't responded .. so I guess it's an open round. :)
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Sorry! :(
A strong flu, late winter, sent me to bed for 2 days.
Just now I'm getting solve back issues... this is something of that. ;)
I had to open the mock up section and put this beautiful sculpture.
Guess this! ;D
(https://s33.postimg.cc/mx0fno5un/guess-0709.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/sl6qeka6z/)
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My suggestion would be Northrop N-102 Fang
A project - never actually flew
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Correct Lamehawk!
Very beautiful to be 1953.
I think it was an attempt to compensate for the ungraceful F-89 scorpion. ;D
you turn!
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With the shape of the nose and under fuse air intake … looks kinda like the precursor to the F-16, kinda :)
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My first thought was the Eurofighter - general lay-out, but especially the tail
Here is the new one
(https://s33.postimg.cc/eg1dwmxof/SASQuiz54.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I smell Spaghetti, Maccheroni and Dolce, lots of Dolce...
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Pasta is the answer.
Dolce only for naming the plane
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I think we had this plane already - different picture though...
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Ambrosini Freccia
A modified Ambrosini S.7
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SAI ambrosini s.7 biposto modified like "Freccia" (arrow) just before obtaining a jet engine and becoming a sagittarius. :(
as always while I research and translate the know-how boy wins me. ;D
I also thought that we had already had it, but no, we had Sagittarius.
I just found this looking for "sagittario" in this same thread and a response from you Radoye, took me to the right.
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg581955.html#msg581955 ;)
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Right - my ailing, failing memory
Anyway - James, the dolce is all yours
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Thank you Lame.
I will now resume my role as the dictator of this thread. ):D
Try this:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/w3hi5ql35/50048538-3_DAD-4_E29-9_A2_E-_BDA8_B7_A31_F8_A.jpg)
Enjoy
James
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my respects to the great dictator o_O
(https://s33.postimg.cc/xeioe3h1b/the_great_dictator.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
it is a Vickers Type 253
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_Type_253
cheers!
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I shall make you a general......
Of course youre right Loco.
Your turn.
James
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Sorry for my delay Great leader! :-[
A Sunday "asado" entertained me all day long. ;)
Guess this!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/k6xzt3b8f/guess-varitech.png) (https://postimages.org/)
At your command. ]salut[
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Dare I say?
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I believe i's the: North American NA-335
The USAF 1960s program that led to the F-15 was won by McDonnell Douglas, but other fighter design houses had offered rival concepts. The most exciting of these unsuccessful designs was offered by North American, and was designated NA-335. In many ways its configuration resembled the later Sukhoi T-10. The Sukhoi T-10, after much modification, became the now ubiquitous ‘Flanker’ series. The American design differed in two significant ways: it lacked the gap between the engine nacelles, and it had only a single vertical fin. The ventral gully produces complicated airflows and can offer some separation issues for air-launched weapons, but it does allow the rear fuselage to add significantly to overall lifting area contributing to the fighter’s performance. The 335’s single-tail (backed up by large ventral fins) would have made the aircraft inferior to a twin-tailed aircraft like the F-15 in controllability at high alpha, but it would have been lighter and simpler.
https://hushkit.net/2016/03/16/the-f-15-that-never-was-the-north-american-na-335/ (https://hushkit.net/2016/03/16/the-f-15-that-never-was-the-north-american-na-335/)
:)
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Correct DHumphrey ;D
you turn now!
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Thanks loco :)
Staying with the jet age. :) Have a look at this one.
(https://image.ibb.co/nja5FU/sasguess03.jpg)
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Reminds me of the Northrop YB-49 Flying Wing... US too ?
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Your on the right track, same manufacture … "not" the YB-49 however. Keep looking :)
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XP-79
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Correct 51 :)
The Northrop XP-79, USAAF project number MX-365, was an ambitious design for a flying wing fighter aircraft, designed by Northrop. It had several notable design features; among these, the pilot would operate the aircraft from a lying position, permitting the pilot to withstand much greater g-forces in the upward and downward direction with respect to the plane – and welded magnesium monocoque structure instead of riveted aluminum.
(https://militaryhistorynow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/northropxp79.jpg)
Originally, it was planned to use a 2,000 lbs (8,900 N) thrust XCALR-2000A-1 "roto-jet" rocket motor from Aerojet that used mono-ethyl-aniline fuel and red fuming nitric acid (RFNA) oxidizer. However, the rocket motor configuration using canted rockets to drive the turbo-pumps was unsatisfactory and the aircraft was subsequently fitted with two Westinghouse 19B (J30) turbojets and re-designated XP-79B. After the failure of the rocket motor, further development of the first two prototypes ended.
The XP-79B (after delays because of bursting tires and brake problems on taxiing trials on the Muroc dry lake) was lost during its first flight on 12 September 1945. While performing a slow roll 15 minutes into the flight, control was lost for unknown reasons. The nose dropped and the roll continued with the aircraft impacting in a vertical spin. Test pilot Harry Crosby attempted to bail out but was struck by the aircraft and fell to his death. Shortly thereafter, the second prototype (43-52438) and the overall project was canceled.
Your turn P51 :)
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Try this strange beast:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/e29wbfxgx/C3_CF8_C50-_AC2_D-4_DBC-_A6_CA-_FAA1_D682823_A.jpg)
James
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(https://s15.postimg.cc/i3gys3kwb/quest180911.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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Must be the North American XA2J Super Savage
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That looks old, Sniper
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Probably a 1945 Case VAI tractor. Used often by the USAAF.
https://imodeler.com/2016/12/thunder-model-135-case-vai-tractor/
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Consolidated TBY, supposed to replace the TBF Avenger but after being delayed a few times for various reasons in the end the time ran out, the war was over and the orders were cancelled. The small number that was completed ended up being used for training.
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This is messing up a bit ... ::(
The photo posted by James has 3 possible winners ... :o
Sniperton has the model of the plane, but does not say the name. (it can be deduced that he waives to win) ]thumleft[
Lamehawk says the name of the plane.]thumleft[
Max says the name of the tractor.]thumleft[
Between Lame and Max it is impossible to determine who won since the slogan is more ambiguous than the sexuality of a transvestite ... (Try this strange beast). :-[
to make things worse; out of nowhere Steven, posts a plane and Radoye hits ... :-|
Please, we have to organize. ;D
Another thing that I can not explain is that the "Super Savage" has the asymmetrical propellers, rectangular shape in left engine and thinned at the base in right engine. o_O
All very confusing.
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I’m going to clear this up right now.
Radoye: even though you guessed correctly to Steven’s quest, your win is invalid since he did not guess at all to my quest.
Steven: please wait until you have won a quest to post. There is specific etiquette in this thread and it helps if people follow it.
Sniperton: mearly posting a picture of the aircraft in question as your answer is invalid.
Max: i love that you know what kind of tractor that is but it’s not the airplane in question.
So.........
Lamehawk: since you actually guessed the quest correctly, it is now your turn.
James
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Sorry mate, i didn't notice yours wasn't guessed yet. I saw a new pic posted and went for it. :|
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All very nice, but I still do not know why the propellers of the North American XA2J Super Savage are different from one engine to another. ;D
I hate correcting people ...
but now, after doing some research, I think Max's answer was incorrect.
It is a "Farmall super A-TA dual whell".
(https://s33.postimg.cc/9pevny73j/C3_CF8_C50-_AC2_D-4_DBC-_A6_CA-_FAA1_D682823_A_tractor.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Incredibly weird of him, since he had previously put him in the trivia.
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg591062.html#msg591062
(if mike had risked that it was an F-35 IH NOTOL, it was also right)
So now there's no doubt that it's Lamehawk's turn
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Sniperton: mearly posting a picture of the aircraft in question as your answer is invalid.
Agreed. The contra-rotating three-blade props gave it away in three minutes, and I came across to the picture you posted on a plastics site side by side with the kit. As I know you're involved in plastics, my non-solution was intended as a mere joke. 8)
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I must admit I hadn't given the tractor a thought. AFVs (Agrarian Farming Vehicles) are not exactly within my base of experience.
Confusion aside, what's this:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/py05u59a7/SASQuiz55.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Of this seaplane with German insignia, I really have no idea. ;D
What I can not solve is a step back from the trivia. o_O
(https://s33.postimg.cc/i49o3ajcv/XA2_J-1_parts.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/aoaehhvnf/)
Can someone explain to me why the propellers are different from one engine to another?!?! ]help[
sorry for the distraction lamehawk :-| ;)
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Aeroproducts was testing different cuff styles on their props.
The left props (red) were the default ones.
During flight tests, at certain RPM vibrations were recorded and the idea was that they might be caused by turbulent airflow on the turbine intake, possibly caused by vortex on the sharp edged default cuffs.
The right props (green) were therefore being tested with angled and rounded cuffs.
You can see markings on one blade of each of the right props, this was to check whether the rounded cuffs would cause the laminate flow to separate outbound the prop's centerline, which is a common issue with rounded cuffs at high AoA.
]cheers[
Mike
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Silence is golden ;)
Here is another angle - believe it is the same aircraft
(https://s33.postimg.cc/4kjn5oqhr/Test49.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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KP+MW, I believe :)
That is to say it is Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk M.F.11 (also known as Høver M.F. 11)
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And that's exactly what it is.
Well done Shakaali - your turn
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Ok, here you go:
(https://s15.postimg.cc/66n1j3e3f/Quest.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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From Norway to Latvia.
VEF I-16
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Yes, Sir!
Your turn, LameHawk!
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Thank you mike for enlightening us!
It is always good to know a little more. ;D
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It is always good to know a little more. ;D
Doesn't really hurt as much as you might imagine!
Does anyone know this lovely little plane?
(https://s33.postimg.cc/xf1k45brj/SASQuiz56.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I believe it's the: SAI KZ IV
It was a conventional, low-wing cantilever monoplane with twin tails, mounted on the ends of the horizontal stabilizer. Power was provided by two engines mounted in nacelles on the wings that also housed the main units of the fixed, tailwheel undercarriage. The cabin could hold two stretchers, two medical attendants, and a flight crew of two.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/OY-DIZ_SAI_KZ_IV_landing_Danish_Air_Show_2014-06-23.jpg)
A single machine, registered OY-DIZ, was built during the war, with a second aircraft registered OY-DZU being built and flown in 1949. That same year, the OY-DIZ was christened with the name Folke Bernadotte in honor of the Swedish count who had used this very aircraft to make a diplomatic visit to Germany to negotiate for the release of Danish prisoners in German concentration camps near the end of the war.
:)
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Very impressive answer.
It is of course quite correct.
So, your turn
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Thank you Lamehawk :)
Here's another, however I think this one is going to be an easy find. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/eXe3aU/sasguess4.jpg)
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Abrams Explorer? Think it was an American survey aircraft from the 30s
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Well done Mexchiwa :) !!!
Your Turn.
The Abrams P-1 Explorer was American purpose-designed aerial photography and survey aircraft that first flew in November 1937. It was designed by aerial survey pioneer Talbert Abrams to best suit his needs for a stable aircraft with excellent visibility for this kind of work. Abrams was an early aerial photographer, in World War I. He used a Curtiss Jenny post-war, forming ABC airlines. In 1923 Abrams founded Abrams Aerial Survey Company, and in 1937 Abrams Aircraft Corporation to build the specialized P-1 aircraft.
(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2lmTjakfu7A/VAp9FvnuDBI/AAAAAAACbYE/ki0_IvjNhLU/s900/Abrams%20P-1%20Explorer.jpg)
The standard single, front-engine airplane of this era created many problems for good scientific photography. They were created to be very nimble in the air and rather than stable photographic platforms. Their engines leaked oil which would flow under the aircraft and get on the camera lens. The engines were noisy and the noise flowed back into the cockpit making conversation difficult.
The designer of the Abrams P-1 Explorer conceived a plane with a wide wing span to be more stable, and with a rear engine to keep the camera clear. He wanted a delta type wing so side vision was possible. He hired engineers Kenneth Ronan and Andrew Edward Kunzl in Marshall, Michigan, who drew plans and began construction in the old Page Brothers Buggy Company factory.
Ronan and Kunzl operated an aeronautical repair station at the Marshall airfield. Ronan was in the first graduating class of aeronautical engineering from the University of Michigan. Careful planning and ten months of construction produced an airplane capable of more efficient and economical aerial photography.
To create the clear nose, so the pilot had unobstructed view, he called in the German company of Rohm and Haas, creators of Plexiglas. With a wooden, male model of each window pane, the Plexiglas was clamped in a frame much like a window frame. Then heated until it began to sag it was pushed down by two workers holding the frame until it was molded to the wooden model.
The Plexiglas could then be trimmed and mounted in the frame work. When the Explorer came back for restoration, it was those panels which had been heated which survived the years as clear as when new. However through some abuse during disassembly they were destroyed.
It was a low-wing metal monoplane with twin booms and a central nacelle for the pilot and camera equipment. The pod's nose section was extensively glazed in Plexiglas. The undercarriage was fixed and of tricycle configuration.
:)
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This one still exists?
Anyway, I can’t post anything right now so open house
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I’ll go then
Try this:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/5p8dywgox/0284_D624-_D541-43_B6-_AAC4-_D780251_D50_D8.jpg)
James
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Something like this?
Marcoux-Bromberg R-3 'Special'
(https://s33.postimg.cc/uevqksdlr/0000054495.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
https://www.neam.org/ac-marcoux-r3.php (https://www.neam.org/ac-marcoux-r3.php)
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Same plane, different year.
That one you posted is the 1935 version I think. The one I posted is the 1937/38 version.
But you win anyway.......
Your turn Lame.
James
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Yes - different cowling, at least.
Hope you noticed the link!
An easy one this time:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/i4uuhrgcv/SASQuiz57.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Of course I noticed.
That is a Short Sunderland.
Specifically a Sunderland III.
James
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Too easy, I'm afraid.
You again, James!
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Alright then,
Try this:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/5zqgvlwj5/C05_C7_F6_C-74_A1-4_FBB-9885-_EC12_C50_CDB3_F.jpg)
James
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Short S.11 Valetta me thinks.
Thought of a Farman F.300 on floats first, but there wasn't any.
]cheers[
Mike
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Correct Mike.
Your turn
James
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Alright, here you go:
(https://s33.postimg.cc/xdloy47v3/quest_2018-09-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pkv1651vv/)
]cheers[
Mike
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British too, I guess...
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Absolutely
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de Havilland D.H.114 Heron 2
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<Nitpicking Mode>It's a de Havilland D.H.114 Heron 2D</Nitpicking Mode>
^^Just because you said it's been too easy :P
Of course you're right James and it's your turn.
A little background story on that particular plane, which nicely documents the early days of the post-war german Luftwaffe.
This particular Heron 2D S/N 14108 was built in 1956, with the civil registration "G-5-15" reserved for it (but never taken up). It was sold to the german Luftwaffe in the beginning of 1957, together with a second Heron (S/N 14124), where it was operated by the Government Flight as CA+001 and was primarily used by the German Chancellor Konrad Adenauer, and sometimes by the first Inspector General of the Luftwaffe, General Kammhuber. The second Heron was operated as CA+002 and used by the German Minister of Defence, Franz-Josef Strauß.
On Februar 14 1957 the plane returned to Köln-Wahn for emergency landing after cockpit filled with smoke due to electrical shortcut behind the instrument panel at 1500 meters. Pilot was Hptm Peth, passenger Franz-Josef Strauß.
The Luftwaffe sold the aircraft to an unknown user in U.K. in 1963, where it was registered as "G-ASFI".
Odd enough, the plane still carried it's german flag at the vertical tail, apparently it has never been operated in the U.K., just waiting to be sold further on:
(https://i.postimg.cc/XY9RGksT/1549143-large.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNMbWyVL)
It was further sold to Portugal in 1964, registered as "CR-GAT", operated by "Transportes Aéreos da Guiné Portuguesesa (TAGP)" (operating flights within Portuguese Guinea as its national airline):
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9yF6gXH/cr-gat.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R6Kq935s)
Then it went to Australia to Connellan Airways ("Connair"), registered as "VH-CLW" on 21 July 1970.
In March 1972 it got converted to a "Turbo Skyliner" by "Riley Turbostream Corporation" in the U.S., re-engined with 4 290hp Lycoming IO-540 flat-six piston engines:
(https://i.postimg.cc/L5kBSh9g/12406_L-1.jpg)
Connellan sold the plane in 1977 to Kendell Airlines who operated it from their Wagga, NSW base to country centres in New South Wales and later on local services in Victoria, Tasmania and South Australia.
(https://i.postimg.cc/NfTZyxMR/Kendell_Airlines_De_Havilland_Riley_DH-114_Turbo_Skyliner_at_B.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/2jnxh9Qj/12406_L-2.jpg)
In 1980 they had leased it to Executive Air Services of Essendon:
(https://i.postimg.cc/7YDnV193/12406_L-3.jpg)
In May 1981 Kendell leased it again, this time to Air Tungaru in the Republic of Kiribati (Gilbert and Ellis Islands)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pXZY19cg/12406_L-4.jpg)
It was eventually re-registered "T3-ATA" into the Kiribati register in may 1981.
Next station was Fiji Islands, where the plane was sold to in november 1984, registered as "VQ-FDY" and soon re-registered "DQ-FDY" and flown by Sunflower Airlines:
(https://i.postimg.cc/PrQs34jT/12406_L.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/dVQMzysd/29031_1073642548.jpg)
In 1991 the plane eventually got decommissioned and was sold to the Australian Aviation Museum, Sydney Bankstown Airport, New South Wales.
The plane has since been left mostly untouched, exposed to weather and unfortunately looking all but great:
(https://i.postimg.cc/NGWmJ6xJ/001297847.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/CLkDWRPF/1040022.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/J7yj56jH/127978.jpg)
In 2012 the plane was purchased by the Central Australian Aviation Museum in Alice Springs, Northern Territory, fom Paul and Christine Ewold. A new hangar was built where it is put on public display:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0DvFmxW/vh-clw.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FkcF5z8r)
That's it, your turn James!
]cheers[
Mike
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Excellent review of that aircraft Mike !!! Most informative.
Thanks much for sharing. :)
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Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/sfvNDfqp/BE251_FA4-6_E3_C-4_D24-_BBAD-2_CE2_F7_A41_BBC.jpg)
James
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Ah... that first beast featuring a retractable landing gear.
Nice ;)
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As a reminder,
This is what the quest is:
(https://i.postimg.cc/sfvNDfqp/BE251_FA4-6_E3_C-4_D24-_BBAD-2_CE2_F7_A41_BBC.jpg)
James
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It seems incredible that this one, who seems older, has gained in performance. :(
(https://i.postimg.cc/FKYPFXsZ/Douglas-_XB-7--_NASA.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Maybe the fact that one company was Dutch and the other North American had finished tipping the scales.
The trivia ones is a Fokker XB-8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_XB-8
Very easy with Mike's data. ;)
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Of course that is correct.
Nice to see you return to us Loco.
Your turn.
James
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Thanks James! ;D
Working in an economy in the midst of a crisis of devaluation like that of my country leaves me with little time. :-[
It is something that you can not believe, but the value of my country's currency fell by 33% in the last month and by 127% since last year. :-|
All that was passed on to costs ... I live to build houses and I have signed contracts since last year ... o_O
This is very fun, too. You could never understand it. ;D
I'm going back to our bussiness ;)
Guess this!
(https://i.postimg.cc/V6XGCy0c/trivia-f104.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Saunders-Roe SR.177
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of course...
very easy to you ;)
You turn James!
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Ok then,
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLWwPP1N/E4941_C7_A-7_C04-46_EE-80_F2-_A9_AE9_F4_FCA8_F.jpg)
James
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Hm... absolutely no idea.
I've been searching my books up and down, then the net...
You know I'm not that much into unsuccessful pre-WW1 designs 8)
Let me guess: Russian or Djaineeese?
]cheers[
Mike
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Impossible angle, but I don't think the Russians or the Chinese use "Remove before flight"
Without anything substantial my guess would a modified F-15
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It can't be an F-35 for the gold leaf is missing.
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Why can’t it be an F-35 hmmmm?
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This trivia is invalid, since this plane was posted countless times. ;)
If i have to risk, I have no choice but to say that it is a Yakovlev Yak-141 fancy and expensive modified ;D
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Because there's no gold leaf visible.
For the price they charge for an F-35, I definitely expect it to be covered with gold leaf, most probably all over.
]cheers[
Mike
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Pfft, gold leaf is for peasants! We would never cover one of our planes with such a pedestrian material. Not the visible parts, anyway. ;) ;)
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Will someone just answer the GODDAMNED QUEST ALREADY!
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Patience is a virtue. Don't haste. Enjoy every single second while it stays unresolved.
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Patience is a virtue
We sense youthful impatience ;)
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Well damn !!! It is an F-35 … LOL :)
(http://www.jsf.mil/images/gallery/sdd/f35_manufacturing/a/sdd_f35manfa_047.jpg)
Maybe James will relax a bit now. :)
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Thank you DH for resolving that.
You’re up!
James
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Here you can see the last prototype of the F-35 LOTR in lockheed Martin's top secret base
(https://i.postimg.cc/yYcKcdqt/Gold_Leaf_Cross2-_Sugarland_TX-12705-107inx76in.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Clearly you can see the thin layer of gold, forged by sauron in the mountain of destiny, which gives the power of invisibility like a bilbo baggins.
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ROFLMAO !!!! … way to funny. :)
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Sticking with manufacturing. :)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7229/7392381940_050055f890_z.jpg)
Good Luck :)
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Here you can see the last prototype of the F-35 LOTR in lockheed Martin's top secret base
(...)
Clearly you can see the thin layer of gold, forged by sauron in the mountain of destiny, which gives the power of invisibility like a bilbo baggins.
This obviously gets you the post of the day award 8)
(https://www.sas1946.com/images/bpotda.gif)
Back to the quest. This is much more my cup of tea, modern arts.
We're watching men working in an air force's workshop in Malmslätt, near Linköping (Sweden), called "Centrala Flygverkstaden i Malmslätt" (CVM) in that time in 1929, which started as "Flygkompaniets Verkstäder i Malmslätt" (FVM) in 1918, later to be acquired by Saab.
Here in 1929, the men are completing wings for "S 6" reconnaisance aircraft, which were license built Fokker C.V-E:
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnD4LT6g/17_A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CnD3hpPH)
There has also been a license production of the sister plane Fokker C.V-D which was used as a fighter with the designation "J 3", later renamed to "S 6A".
The C.V-D differed from the C.V-E by it's wingspan (12.5m for the C.V-D vs. 15.3m for the C.V-E) and, logically, the armament.
In total Sweden operated 30 S 6 recon planes, 6 of which were bought from Fokker and 24 licensed production aircraft.
Of the S 6A fighter, only one was produced in Sweden and another eight were imported from Fokker.
Later another 10 "S 6B" were produced in Sweden, these were C.V-E type recon planes re-engined with the stronger Bristol Mercury VI engine of 600hp, license built by NOHAB (Nydqvist & Holm AB) in Trollhättan (Sweden), to replace the Bristol Jupiter VI engines of 450hp which originally powered the C.V-E.
]cheers[
Mike
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Excellent Mike, very well done. !!!
Your turn Sir :)
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Thank you DH.
Here you go, guess this one:
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/flickr/storebror/1980/44088206314_40991464ab_o.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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I smell Spaghetti, Maccheroni and Dolce, lots of Dolce...
Must be a Caproni Ca111
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You nailed it in no time, outstanding!
Your turn LameHawk!
]cheers[
Mike
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From my favourite period.
And here is one from the same period
(https://i.postimg.cc/pdLC1K20/SASQuiz58.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jDByDwnN)
PS: I do like your sense of humour, loco :D
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I believe it's the: Petlyakov Pe-8
The Petlyakov Pe-8 was a Soviet heavy bomber designed before World War II, and the only four-engine bomber the USSR built during the war. Produced in limited numbers, it was used to bomb Berlin in August 1941. It was also used for so-called "morale raids" designed to raise the spirit of the Soviet people by exposing Axis vulnerabilities. Its primary mission, however, was to attack German airfields, rail yards and other rear-area facilities at night, although one was used to fly the People's Commissar of Foreign Affairs (Foreign Minister) Vyacheslav Molotov from Moscow to the United States in 1942.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-E_M7sV2M7-U/UCTbChyP6AI/AAAAAAAAIJg/uvXQvOexQe8/s1600/petlyakov-pe-8.jpg)
:)
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Weeell... not quite precise.
It is in fact the prototype ANT-42, early engines.
Later the designation changed to TB-7 (Heavy Bomber).
And later again the designation was changed to Pe-8 in recognition of the chief designer Petlyakov.
But close enough, you're on, DHumphrey
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Thanks Lamehawk,
I see now the engine cowling is a tad different. :)
Ok here's the next one.
(https://image.ibb.co/g8mibe/sasguess05.jpg)
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MiG 105-11
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Sure that it's not an F-35?
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Mike … I think it is the fore-runner of the F-35 :)
However, James had the correct answer with the Mig-105 :)
Your turn James
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I have quite a few on standby but I think I should do this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/6pCxV6Sj/5_F9_D534_F-30_BB-449_F-_B148-4_D2_C334_BE6_D1.jpg)
James
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Nice image of the only XPBB-1 Sea Ranger ever built.
An exceptionally successful plane from the technical point of view, obsolete by it's mission designation at the time when it was ready.
Nevertheless, when you think of it...
Out of two rather "standard" engines (2300 hp each), they squeezed a plane that could deliver almost 10 tons of bombs with a range of almost 7000km and a service ceiling of almost 7000m, and all of this with a very impressive defensive armament consisting of five powered turrets with 8 cal .50 guns altogether.
On a Seaplane in 1942!
Now compare this to the german efforts on the "Bomber B" program.
Unbelievable.
]cheers[
Mike
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Mike, your turn.
James
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Alright, thanks James.
Time for something slightly tougher.
I apologize in advance for the bad image quality, but hey: This is an aerial photography of WW1. For that time and taking into account that it's been hand made from a shaking plane at altitude, the quality is perfect.
So... what type of plane do we see here?
(https://i.postimg.cc/TYpcx0Xb/quest_2018-09-22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D83Gdq0f)
]cheers[
Mike
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I bit outside my period of interest - but still a flying thing.
So, to the untrained eye - a guess: Albatros C.III
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Holy cow, that was quick.
Yes, it's indeed an Albatros C.III.
On the Magazine where this photo was shown in, it took the readers three months to get away from the first guess which was "Aviatik C.I".
Your turn LameHawk!
]cheers[
Mike
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The tail gave it away. At least Albatros was my first thought, and a quick search verified the thought. Although I tend to think all ww1 planes look more or less the same.
Tails are a good identifier, just think about de Havilland or Arado.
Another one from my chosen period:
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCy2xNQd/SASQuiz59.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8J59s5j8)
I find the stealth crane quite intriguing
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it looks like a Savoia Marchetti SM-89 ... like the one I have in my portfolio of Italians to post ... ::(
But the armament looks different and the vanishing edge betwen the gondolas of the engines to the fuselage seems longer also this has aerodynamic cover on the propellers and the small air intake of the engines is down instead of above .... Is it the point of view or will there be a trap? :-|
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No trap
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French maybe?
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CANSA FC.20bis, I guess.
First I thought it's some twin-rudder Beaufighter variant, since the short nose reminded me of that, but the rectangular cross-section of the fuselage convinced me that it's indeed Italian. The stealth crane is really great, where's the pic from? ;D
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Bravo, Sniper - that's exactly what it is.
The picture is from this book (2nd. ed., 1995)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5JxxsSG/Bog.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Ln0PHThD)
Had to use my phone for the photo, since my trusty old XP died on me a few days ago. Leaving me with non compatible scanner, printer and a harddisk - all in perfect working order. (hrmf)
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Still curious about the ghost :)
Anyway, let's have this (sort of) beauty. Reminds me of a turtle.
(https://i.postimg.cc/m2PFFRJ7/quest180923.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Let's steel ourselves for this challenge
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;) :D
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I believe it's the: RB-1 Conestoga
The RB-1 Conestoga was a twin-engine, stainless steel cargo aircraft designed for the United States Navy during World War II by the Budd Company of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Although it did not see service in a combat theater, it pioneered design innovations in American cargo aircraft, later incorporated in modern military cargo airlifters.
(https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2016-12/1481910181_budd-conestoga-2.jpg)
The prototype first flew from the Budd Red Lion Factory Airfield in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on 31 October 1943, piloted by Guy Miller. The prototype had a takeoff run when empty of just 650 feet (200 m), and could carry a maximum payload of 10,400 pounds (4,700 kg) with a takeoff run of 920 feet (280 m).[2] However, the aircraft demonstrated greater than expected fuel consumption; the range with a standard payload was only 700 miles (1,100 km), 650 miles (1,050 km) with a maximum payload. Three prototype aircraft: NX37097, NX41810, and NC45354 were built; one was used for testing radio equipment, while the other two were used for flight test evaluations. During testing, a few aircraft had difficulty with the simultaneous deployment of the right and left landing gear. With the same engines as the C-47, but 3,000 pounds (1,400 kg) heavier (empty), the aircraft was relatively underpowered; it was reportedly said that for an aircraft built by a railroad car company, it indeed handled like one.
:)
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Excellent DHumphrey, your turn.
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Thank you sniperton :)
Ok All, here's the new one:
(https://image.ibb.co/gUGxu9/sasguess09.jpg)
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I enter to the page and went to the recent post section ...
(https://i.postimg.cc/NGm1dxxJ/trivia.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jCqw5PmP)
It's incredible that the guess is solved there o_O
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...except for the fact that it's not an An-24.
But it's damn close.
]cheers[
Mike
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yes... is an An-32, but was close ;D
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It's actually an AN-32"B" … hehe :)
The Antonov An-32 (NATO reporting name: Cline) is a twin-engined turboprop military transport aircraft. The An-32 is essentially a re-engined An-26. The launch customer was the Indian Air Force, which ordered the aircraft partly due to good relations between then USSR leader Leonid Brezhnev and then India leader Indira Gandhi. The An-32 is designed to withstand adverse weather conditions better than the standard An-26. The high placement of the engine nacelles above the wing allowed for larger diameter propellers, which are driven by 5,100 hp rated Ivchenko AI-20 turboprop engines, providing almost twice the power of the An-26's AI-24 powerplants. Estimated price for a modernized An-32 version is 15 million US dollars.
The An-32 has excellent takeoff characteristics in hot and high conditions, (up to + 55 °C (131 °F; 328 K) and 4,500 m (14,800 ft) elevation suitable for use as a medium tactical military transport roles as well as commercial roles. Operating as a cargo transport over the short and medium range air routes, the An-32 is suitable for air-dropping cargo, passenger carrying, medevac, firefighting, skydiving or paratrooping roles.
(https://www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/7/2/5/1926527.jpg)
Close enough locopiston, your turn.
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good! ;D
now another of the mockup section ...
is easy... :-[
guess this!
(https://i.postimg.cc/bvycwhhL/guess269.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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I don't know what it is but I give it a lot of style points.
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I think it's the: Boeing 908 F-16 (LWF) Contender
The need for new air superiority fighters led the USAF to initiate two concept development studies in 1965: the Fighter Experimental (F-X) project originally envisioned a 60,000-pound (27,200 kg) class twin-engine design with a variable-geometry wing. This would be a very expensive aircraft, too expensive to consider equipping the entire Air Force with it as its standard aircraft. For this reason a less-expensive Advanced Day Fighter (ADF) was also considered, a lightweight design in the 25,000 lb (11,300 kg) class which would out-perform the MiG-21 by 25%.
(http://q-zon-fighterplanes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Boeing908-1.jpg)
:)
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Yes is the Boeing 908-909! ;D
You turn DHumphrey!
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Thanks locopiston :)
Ok all, here ya go.
(https://image.ibb.co/gNzzWp/sasguess10.jpg)
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Cierva W.9
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Well done 51 :)
The Cierva W.9 was a British 1940s experimental helicopter with a three-blade tilting-hub controlled main rotor, and torque compensation achieved using a jet of air discharged from the rear port side of the fuselage.
(http://www.aviastar.org/foto/cierva_w9_2.jpg)
The most visible characteristic of the W.9 was torque compensation using air blown by an engine-driven fan in its hollow tail boom exhausting to port. Of more importance, however, was the hydraulically powered shaft-driven tilting rotor hub with rotational speed variation to give automatic collective pitch control. Development of the rotor system resulted in a tilting hub combined with cyclic pitch control of each blade to minimize control forces. Manual control of collective pitch was added to the automatic collective pitch change system to provide precise vertical control in hover and the ability to cushion a landing from an autorotative descent. The helicopter was destroyed in an accident in 1946 and the project was abandoned.
Your turn James :)
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Here is an easy one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJtnhL9J/88134152-6_BE1-4_EC0-81_A9-1758_CCF51_B66.jpg)
James
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My guess would be Lockheed C-141 Starlifter
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And you’d be right.
Your’e up Lame
James
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I've had the pleasure of flying on that aircraft … more than once !!! :)
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You ever go to korea for team spirit?
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No he's a Minuteman... which reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8d21iOowjo
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Ooooooooohhhh Aaaaaaaaaaahhhh.
Mesmerizing.
James
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You ever go to korea for team spirit?
Yes … twice, 1989 & 1993 … just a note, 1989 was the coldest winter I've ever experienced in my life in the country of South Korea and I grew up in Michigan.
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I was asking because my boss was there ‘85 and ‘86. He was a machinist at Kadena.
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Up and dancing (ah, well)
Does anybody know this plane?
(https://i.postimg.cc/3JP2xRtm/SASQuiz60.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MvmnsW2p)
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I was asking because my boss was there ‘85 and ‘86. He was a machinist at Kadena.
I was stationed Camp Eagle (H-401, earlier R-401) in 89' and K-16 (Seoul Airbase-American side) in 93'.
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Looks very similar to a BT-13, the canopy is different, could be due to an AG conversion, just a guess.
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The trail is getting warm.
Good guess
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Wakka wakka wakka
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I think it's some sort of PT-19
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Seems Mex is on to something
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Is from Africa? :-|
the only thing I could find with Wakka Wakka is this
https://youtu.be/dzsuE5ugxf4
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Commonwealth Wackett - which reminded me of Fonzie the Bear and "Wakka wakka wakka". Anyway... not sure what kind of civil mods this one had, if any, other than the canopy.
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CAC KS-3 Wackett Cropmaster is the name of the earlier Commonwealth Wackett trainer aircraft. And as DHumphrey was on to, it is an AG conversion.
https://qam.com.au/qam-content/aircraft/wackett/VH-AJH.htm (https://qam.com.au/qam-content/aircraft/wackett/VH-AJH.htm)
My taste in music is more like Jimi Hendrix, the good old guitar heroes.
Yes, I am that old.
So, Mexchiwa - your turn
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My taste in music is more like Jimi Hendrix, the good old guitar heroes.
Yes, I am that old.
... and still "too young to die". ;)
Strange as it is, but the Y generation here in Hungary is listering to the Doors, the Stones, and Hendrix again. Or it's as simple as that classics are classics, no matter how old or dead they are. ;D
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Too lazy to post anything - open house
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Do we call you Garfield from now on? ;)
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1st concert - Lead Zeppelin :) Getting a bit more mature (not old) everyday. :)
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Don't remember my first. Grateful Dead being one of the first. Led Zeppelin incidentally had their debut just round the corner from where I live.
As for age, I'm getting older, but not much more mature.
And I won't have another quest ready for at least a couple of hours. Let's see if anyone beats me to it
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Open round you say?
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/V6JGTJLS/514_B0690-2786-40_AD-98_C8-4_AFDC7_A17_CFE.jpg)
James
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It's an... An....
....
HNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.
F35
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That just screams Kamov but it doesn't quite look like any Kamov i've seen... :/
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Looks more like a Kamov...
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I believe it's the: Kellett XR-10
The Kellett XR-10 was a military transport helicopter developed in the United States in the 1940s that only flew in prototype form. It was designed in response to a USAAF Technical Instruction issued for the development of a helicopter to transport passengers, cargo, or wounded personnel within an enclosed fuselage. Kellett's proposal followed the general layout that the company was developing in the XR-8, with twin intermeshing rotors, and was accepted by the Air Force on 16 October over proposals by Sikorsky, Bell, and Platt-LePage.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-baAZyl79kHk/Uy-3upkoFcI/AAAAAAABqJg/Nh7bCffeRRU/s1600/xr10-13.jpg)
The XR-10 resembled a scaled-up XR-8, although its twin engines were carried in nacelles at the fuselage sides, driving the rotors via long driveshafts, and the aircraft was skinned entirely in metal. The first of two prototypes flew on 24 April 1947, and at the time, was the largest rotorcraft to fly in the United States.[1] During test-flights, however, the same problem that had been encountered with the XR-8's rotor system emerged when blades from the two rotors collided in flight. With fixes in place, flight testing continued, but on 3 October 1949, the first prototype crashed due to a control system failure and killed Kellett's chief test pilot, Dave Driskill. The project was abandoned shortly thereafter, and a 16-seat civil variant, the KH-2, never left the drawing board.
:)
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Correct DH.
Your turn!
James
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Thanks James :)
Not going to be home today … open round :)
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Here is a quick and fun one for now:
(https://i.postimg.cc/QNvgPP5M/E7_F300_CB-_BB59-4_EF0-_ACA0-874_E25_D8_B63_A.jpg)
James
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I've never seen such an inventive use of a roll of toilet tissue on an airplane...
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Bullseye :)
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It’s almost plank like wouldn’t you say.........
Almost like a flying 2x4.......
(https://i.postimg.cc/fyg4x92T/F0_B38_F30-6_F9_E-4_FBF-8_B1_A-30_A92_FEF582_A.jpg)
James
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Don't worry. It just took some time.
I remembered having seen it before. Just where and when ...
Anyway: Backstrom EPB-1A Flying Plank
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Correct!
My friend is building one from plans.
Your turn Lame!
James
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Right - here we go
(https://i.postimg.cc/DzP5FTZX/SASQuiz61.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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An Italian trainer/liaison aircraft with 180 degree retractable tailwheel type undercarriage with a Hirth or Argus inverted V type engine carrying a German SC type bomb that seems way to big for it.
Do I win?
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No win yet.
Italian it is - but not trainer/liaison
Not Hirth/Argus either. I think the fairly large propeller would indicate a somewhat more powerful engine.
Especially considering the size of the bomb. Which I haven't got the faintest idea what is.
And a name would be appreciated
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How about the: Caproni Ca.355 Dip
The Caproni Ca.335 was an Italian single-engined fighter-bomber/reconnaissance aircraft of the 1930s. It was designed by Caproni to meet a requirement of the Belgian Air Force, with it being planned that the aircraft would be built under licence by the Belgian company SABCA as the SABCA S.47. Only a single aircraft was built, production plans being stopped by the German invasion of Belgium in May 1940.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HlYoM-xV-wI/VP_jTx0wbfI/AAAAAAAAsNc/QAKGI4sZ7JU/s1600/trhtrtrhthr.jpg)
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It is indeed the Caproni Ca.355.
Very good DHumphrey. You just beat the undefeated champion on the last lap.
Your turn
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I like DHumphrey's solutions, for he also gives information, not just names the plane.
Just nitpicking, but according to the Italian wiki page the "Tuffo" or "Dip" was intended as a dive bomber (as also the nickname suggests). It was it's predecessor, the "Maestrale", which was a fighter-bomber/recon plane and which would be built under licence in Belgium.
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I really wasn’t trying to win this time. I’ve gone too much anyway. Aught to let someone else go for once.
Cheers!
James
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Thank you LameHawk and sniperton for the kind comments. :)
Ok all here's the next one … it's an easy one.
(https://image.ibb.co/cvYLMz/sasguess08.jpg)
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>>DHumphrey: uh...PZL SW-4 Puszczyk?
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>>DHumphrey: uh...PZL SW-4 Puszczyk?
That's not it anitek … good try though. :)
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Aught to let someone else go for once.
Ought. Don't take it personal, I'm just musing. Twenty years ago I did not misspell any word either in German, English, Italian, or French. Now I do as you do, even in my mother tongue. Really strange.
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It didn’t give me the little red underline when I spelled it.........hmm, strange.
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Eurocopter UH-72, the military version of the Eurocopter EC145.
I've seen a couple of prototypes at the Donauwörth Eurocopter facility in my last days of military service, when we made ferry flights of Sea Kings for their Change Overhaul.
]cheers[
Mike
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It didn’t give me the little red underline when I spelled it.........hmm, strange.
Because 'aught' is still used; here in England anyway with a different meaning:
anything at all, or nothing.
"know you aught of this flying machine, young sir?"
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Copied. What was the meaning of "young sir" again?
I think I've got a dark remembrance from way back in the past, but instead of stating something completely wrong, I thought I'd better ask.
]cheers[
Mike
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"junger Herr" Mike; just like your good self.
As if you didn't know, your English being better than mine! :)
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Eurocopter UH-72, the military version of the Eurocopter EC145.
I've seen a couple of prototypes at the Donauwörth Eurocopter facility in my last days of military service, when we made ferry flights of Sea Kings for their Change Overhaul.
]cheers[
Mike
Correct Mike !!! :)
There are six UH-72A's stationed here in Hilo on the Big Island, next to Blue Hawaiian Helicopters, the employer I retired from. :)
Your turn.
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Thanks DHumphrey.
Blue Hawaiian... "you" have the EC 130, which is not too far from the 135 development line.
They didn't have it at Donauwörth, because the 130 prototypes were located in Marignane, France. We've seen some AS 350 though which partly went to Donauwörth for overhaul.
These were interesting days in the late 90s. We've been to Marconi in Canada (nowadays CMC Electronics) and to Westland Helicopters for evaluating Avionics update offers for our 20+ year old Sea King Helicopters.
And we've been to Speyr (MBB) and later Donauwörth (Eurocopter), in case of Speyr it was usually for the 2nd major periodic inspection (2. PE) which turned into a "Kampfwertsteigerung" (weapons upgrade) where our brave Sea Kings were equipped with Sea Skua missiles, electronic warfare equipment and self defense systems including chaff/flare dispensers and tons of sensors. Not that this would make any sense, but still.
In case of Donauwörth it turned out that most Sea Kings suffered from fatigue which required a change overhaul of the core structure, and later the avionics upgrade offered by Westland Helicopters was built in.
Okay, let's stay with Helis for the while. Guess this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/J7xMZNHf/quest_2018-10-06.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6T8kNG0c)
]cheers[
Mike
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I'm a complete newbie to helis, but a search for "small two-seat helicopter" resulted in the Guimbal Cabri G2 in the first place 8)
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Spot on sniperton, your turn 8)
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Thanks, I really do not deserve the baton, but at least this one shall be even easier.
(The bike is not part of the quest, just fun, but whoever can ID it really deserves some Extrawurst ;D)
(https://i.postimg.cc/PqHx0jNH/quest181006.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The bike looks a bit like a Schwinn Traveler.
As for the plane, no clue. F-35 in hungarian service makes no sense to me.
]cheers[
Mike
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Methinks it's rather a Csepel (née Schwinn) "Toldi", but as to the rest, I'm clueless. :P
http://veterankerekpar.gportal.hu/picview.php?prt=569286&gid=2348483&index=8
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I think it's maybe a North Korean Mig-17 … just a guess though. :)
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Methinks it's rather a Csepel (née Schwinn) "Toldi"
Totally agree, that one looks exactly like it whereas the Schwinn was just close.
I think it's maybe a North Korean Mig-17 … just a guess though. :)
If that was a Korean MiG-17 it would have missed it's homebase by some 5000 miles.
]cheers[
Mike
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Romanian Air Force MiG-15?
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Hungarian, not Romanian, but indeed a MiG-15, although I can't tell from the photo whether it's the base variant, or a bis, or an UTI. The picture was taken in 1964. Here's an airborne one from the same squadron:
(https://i.postimg.cc/HsCqkCH2/quest181006b.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I guess it's open round since Kilo has not responded for more than 24 hours.
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Yes sir, Open Round!
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Ok all, try this one. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/b0MqG9/sasguess11.jpg)
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New Ferrari F1 exhaust? *SCNR*
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Made by Republic ?
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The Ferrari? No. 8)
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That Ferrari looks like this :P
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg589064.html#msg589064
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Republic XF-92
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Well done locopiston and hoddyman :)
The Republic XF-91 Thunderceptor (originally designated XP-91) is a mixed-propulsion prototype interceptor aircraft, developed by Republic Aviation. The aircraft would use a jet engine for most flight, and a cluster of four small rocket engines for added thrust during climb and interception. The design was largely obsolete by the time it was completed due to the rapidly increasing performance of contemporary jet engines, and only two prototypes were built. One of these was the first American fighter to exceed Mach 1 in level flight.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/XF91-21republic.jpg)
A unique feature of the Thunderceptor was its unusual inverse tapered wing, in which the chord length increased along the wing span from the root to the tip, the opposite of conventional swept wing designs. This was an attempt to address the problem of pitch-up, a potentially deadly phenomenon that plagued early high-speed models. The Thunderceptor's design meant the entire wing stalled smoothly, more like a straight-wing design.
As locopiston was the first to reply with the correct answer it is his turn now.
:)
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that's the one. I got the number wrong.
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I'm very sorry, I'm very busy.
It hurts me to do it but I have to declare open round ::( ::(
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Get ready to get stumped....
Because of the obscurity of this aircraft, I will post two pictures because I feel generous.... :D
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/CKGXZ21T/3669-CB37-5967-400-A-AB5-F-116824-A9864-A.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9M1kbqZL/2632-A78-C-C304-422-D-BC55-0-BFF33-AA1479.jpg)
Enjoy guys!
James
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Such clean lines... It’s pretty speedy looking. Swift even. ;)
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Such clean lines... It’s pretty speedy looking. Swift even. ;)
I know it … it's a "Matchbox F-35" :)
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Actually I think it is the: Comper Swift
In 1930 Comper introduced his most popular aeroplane to the private flyer, the Comper Swift fitted with the 2.5 litre Pobjoy R-type engine. This chucked out 85hp but only weighed 135lbs. That equates to under 2lb per horse-power wet. The Swift was a parasol type and was not renowned for its forward visibility whilst on the ground!
When the question of forward visibility was raised the stock answer was, “What visibility?” It was though a very popular single-seater which bought flying to the private pilot. The wings folded so it followed the trend of the times. It was a good looking little beast. The heart of any aircraft is its engine.
(http://www.easyballoons.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/comper-swift.jpg)
Pobjoy’s skill at fine tuning his engines, which along with their well established reliability, meant that a Pobjoy powered Swift competed in every Kings Cup Air Race from 1931 until 1937. In 1932 the renowned C. A. Butler broke the England to Australia record flying one from Biggin Hill to Darwin in 9 days, another made it to South Africa in a similar time and G-AAZA made a double crossing of the Andes reaching 18,000ft.
:)
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Its a pretty one to be sure!
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Sleek plane. Only thing is you don't see shit from the pilot's viewpoint, except for when you fly backwards.
]cheers[
Mike
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DH, you get it but your engine is wrong. This is the first prototype with the ABC engine. It produced far less hp than the Niagara.
It’s your turn DH.
James
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It also had variable incidence wings.
The Republic XF-91 Thunderceptor (originally designated XP-91) is a mixed-propulsion prototype interceptor aircraft, developed by Republic Aviation.
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It also had variable incidence wings.
That is incorrect. The wings on the XF-91 had inverse taper, i.e. Smaller chord at the root than at the tip. The wings on the XF-91 didn't move or change incidence or angle. They are not "Variable Geometry" like the wings on an F-111, F-14 or B-1B.
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Ok all, here's the new one:
(https://image.ibb.co/gSNnJp/sasguess12.jpg)
:)
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Should be clear as mud that this is just another faux antique finish F-35.
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Well im lost.
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Edit: I gave it another try and it seems to be the Johnson Uniplane, an experimental flying pancake from the early 1930s.
http://eaavintage.org/october-2015-mystery/
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/xplane/uniplane.html
A much better picture:
https://corescholar.libraries.wright.edu/special_ms223_photographs/590/
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Well done sniperton !!!
Mike you were close with your "faux antique finish F-35" guess, but no cigar. :)
Your turn sniperton :)
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That was a nasty one ;D
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That was a nasty one ;D
I don't think so, any plane which is unconventional enough is quite easy to track down. It's not like with the Nth variant of a popular conventional design where you have to check aircraft manufacturers from the whole world ranging from the US to Argentina and from the 30s to the 60s. This is why I don't want to make you suck with Hungarian or Polish designs, although I'd have plenty of material to do so.
Anyway, this is from a major country, and I apologize for the bad image quality (which is a hint at its origin, if anything else fails).
[I also want you to admit that it's a nice object captured in a beautiful picture despite its low quality.]
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhvQKZ05/quest181016c.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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A lot easier
This can only be the Beriev Be-10
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Correct as always, LameHawk, it's your turn. ]salut[
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Thank you.
Actually I think it wasn't so easy again. I did try various reasonable searches, not coming closer than the Arups. Of course it didn't help that I thought it was from the twenties.
Anyway, here is the new one. And it might not be too easy either
(https://i.postimg.cc/dVxSHnh6/SASQuiz62.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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From the very little one is allowed to see of it, it could be a Siebel Si-204 A/B, or an SNCAC NC-702 Martinet
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It's neither
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I guessed so, hence my formulation "it could be". 8)
However, being Devil's Advocate by habit, could you point out the details on your pic that deny my proposed solution? ;)
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The Siebel has a mainly glass cockpit section. And the quest has a stepped front. The engines are clearly not Argus.
The Martinet is of course a derivative of the Siebel. And it does have a stepped cockpit. However the Renault engines - Argus derivatives - clearly show it is a different plane.
So - good hunting ;D
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Percival Petrel with retractable gear?
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Afraid not :(
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However the Renault engines - Argus derivatives - clearly show it is a different plane.
Valid point, but I guess IDing your quest aircraft is hardly possible without IDing that particular engine. All the rest is so similar: light utility design, lower-wing construction with a twin-tail, landing light in the bulge of a stepped nose, oval cross-section of a fatty fuselage, main landing gears retractable from the engine nacelles, rounded wing tips, what else do I miss except for the uniforms? ;D
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Yes, you are right.
But I must admit, it was meant to be difficult.
I hope it's not a total killer
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The Martinet NC 702 looks very similar but I noticed that the engine cowlings are indeed different. In the "Quest" photo you'll note the lower cowling below the prop is smooth and fully cowled, while the 702 looks to have the engine's oil cooler intake positioned low below the prop and it uses a large "open" intake.
(http://www.planeur.aero/Avions/MartinetNC702.jpg)
I'm also still searching … this is a tough one LameHawk. :)
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I hope it's not a total killer
Don't worry, at least we know what it is not, and what is it that makes the difference.
The funny thing is that now I really want to know more about those suits and uniforms. ;D
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DH Gipsy engines?
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That is right :)
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I'd already checked planes with two Gipsy engines, but I couldn't decide whether it's the Miles Gemini, or the Koolhoven F.K.57, or any of the two or more candidates that have the same basic features. :-|
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Which other candidates would that be?
Hint: This particular plane was used as an aerial ambulance
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If you mean the SAI KZ IV, I couldn't find any with rectractable landing gear. Or is it simply missing the cowling on your pic?
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It is not the KZ-IV
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There is a connection here
(https://i.postimg.cc/bNnqR6bk/ef580203f59e61da54efa8d986af90fe.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/MpXNDHg4/s-l400.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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You remind me of a former prof who used to give hints, but the more hints he gave, the more lost we were. :o
I go back to gaming and leave it to mex and the others in the hope they succeed :D
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Can't think of anything but Percival Q.6 Petrel :-|
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It isn't
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It isn't
And was also already quessed.. :-[
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Yes - and still isn't 8)
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Ok, one more shot in the dark before I give up: Reid and Sigrist R.S.3 Desford
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That's not the one either.
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I gave it up long before, just want to ask whether it's a genuine design or just a modification of something else?
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At this moment trying to find a different picture (that Google won't find).
Just a little patience.
And it is the real thing - only very obscure
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Here is another photo of the type (with minor differences)
(https://i.postimg.cc/GpRst9Rg/SASQuiz62-6.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Strange landing gear, any significance to being surrounded by kids?
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Not sure if they are "real" kids. I mean they probably worked at the factory. But they do seem very young.
The undercarriage is unusual (maybe it was just on the prototype). It has been seen later on - Viggen for instance.
Anyway I think I have kept you in suspenders long enough. It did end up a killer after all.
The Turkish Aeronautical Association - Türk Hava Kurumu - produced 13 aircraft of the type THK-5. First flight 1945.
They managed to export one, a THK-5a, to Falcks Flyvetjeneste in Denmark. Falcks Flyvetjeneste was a subsidiary of Falcks Redningskorps, a private rescue and salvage company. They and a competitor, Zonens Flyvetjeneste, provided ambulance service to small islands. The service was extremely important during the war during the icy winters (with no ships) and also due to mines. The KZ-IV was developed especially for this kind of operation.
The THK-5a was bought in 1951 and flew until 1961 when it crash landed near Aalborg (https://www.baaa-acro.com/crash/crash-turk-hava-kurumu-thk-5a-aalborg (https://www.baaa-acro.com/crash/crash-turk-hava-kurumu-thk-5a-aalborg)). It was not very popular because of small useful load and short range.
And the perhaps a bit confusing hints: The cap would be worn by the gentlemen from the redningstjeneste ducking in the picture.
The German night fighter ace Wolfgang Falck claimed in his autobiography "The Happy Falcon" that he was related to Falcks Redningskorps, established in 1906 by Sophus Falck.
(https://i.postimg.cc/vBSkvDGG/hqdefault.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TPkfZdT4/l13779.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/LXYKwjCJ/l13780.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8PB82pHm/l16639.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1XGT1Bp3/THK-5-A-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
After having subjected you to this ordeal, I'd better declare an open round
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I would have never guessed it right. Honestly, I did expect Argentina or South Africa when speaking of "obscure" aircraft, but definitely not Turkey. BTW, where is your first pic from? I guess it was taken in Denmark, but I could not find it. Anyway, congrats, it was one of the most demanding quests ;D
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My wife is from the town Aarhus, and she was watching some photos from her home town on Facebook (me no member). Knowing my strong weakness she said, there's a plane here. Looking at it I thought What on earth is that?
As the registration could be read it wasn't too difficult to identify. But it was a rather surprising discovery
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Great story, well done!
Gents! Open round!
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Excellent "Quest" LameHawk !!! … Thank you also for the nice story following the aircraft. :)
Still an open round.
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Guess who!
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4f6ZLwk/6-B286706-00-A8-4-C91-952-A-6-EF33966-C375.jpg)
James
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Are you kidding, James? In the past few days we've checked all twin-engine transport planes of the world -- except for one. ;D
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I've seen this thing before - a film star I believe
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You're correct, Hawk ;)
A filmstar with a strange look
(https://i.postimg.cc/0yL3Nppf/Capells-xc12.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Capelis XC-12 - got a glowing review in one of Bill Gunston's books on the worst ever aircraft
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Does anyone know what was the reason behind the off-looking cockpit? To make more head-space for the crew and to avoid visual distortions caused by a curved plexiglas?
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Probably the workers were just drunk and held the plans upside down.
]cheers[
Mike
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Probably the workers were just drunk and held the plans upside down.
No wonder test pilots kept falling out.
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Think it was supposed to be rain resistant
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Probably the workers were just drunk and held the plans upside down.
I get your point, what we see on the pic is literally Frankenstein's Hangar 8)
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Think it was supposed to be rain resistant
The scary thing about this is that it would mean that they had windshields not being rain resistant as well :o
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Would allow more headroom for taxiing visibility
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Here's the dope on this bird … :)
The Capelis XC-12 was a failed 1933 aircraft design that most notably was used as a prop in the 1939 film Five Came Back with Chester Morris and Lucille Ball, the 1942 war film The Flying Tigers starring John Wayne,[1] and the 1942–1943 war film Immortal Sergeant with Henry Fonda, Thomas Mitchell, and Maureen O'Hara. The aircraft featured unusual twin horizontal tail structures supported by three vertical tail surfaces. Construction and finishing methods involved using sheet metal screws which ultimately led to the abandoning of the project.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Capelis_XC-12.jpg)
The original design by Socrates H. Capelis was issued U. S. patent #1,745,600 in 1930. The patent comprised a modified application with a half-span dorsal wing mounted rearward and on top of the cabin two additional engines mounted on the wings. The project was funded by local Greek restaurateurs as a promotional aircraft; it was constructed with help from University of California students. A less radical design by Dr. John E. Younger featured all-metal construction; the aircraft was built as an all-metal, low-wing, retractable gear, twin engine transport with a triple vertical tail supporting a dual (biplane arrangement) horizontal stabilizer. The wing used a large box-spar construction with corrugated skin panels. The partly retracting landing gear extended automatically when the throttle was closed. Following a 1938 incident, the XC-12 was modified at Glendale, California: The forward slanting eight-piece windshield was modified to a four piece that slanted rearward, and the passenger windows were squared off to look more like a Douglas DC-3.
On April 15, 1938, the XC-12 suffered minor damage from a forced landing after running out of fuel while flying over Fresno, California. The main wing spar construction was bolted together, and many of the metal skin panels were attached with P-K sheet metal screws rather than with permanent rivets. These tended to vibrate loose, requiring tightening or replacing every few flights, constituting a safety hazard that would later ground the aircraft. With promotional tours abandoned after the 1938 crash, the aircraft's flying career was over. The XC-12 was then purchased by RKO in March 1939, after which the studio's insurance company permanently grounded the aircraft. Used as a full-size prop, the transport appeared only in ground roles in RKO's feature films made during World War II; flying sequences used a scale XC-12 shooting miniature. The aircraft became a RKO back lot relic, falling into worse repair during the 1940s until it was completely scrapped some time around 1950. The XC-12 miniature continued to be used in later feature films.
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Even though DH gave us a wonderful history of this beautiful plane, I have to give this to Mex because he was the first to call it what it was.
You’re up Mex.
James
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Agreed, Mex got the plane way faster than I did, I just wanted to share some info on the aircraft. :)
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Thank you :)
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Sorry for the size...
(https://i.postimg.cc/5yyjcgQf/xplane9.jpg)
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Yak-9?
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Yes. Any idea where/when/why?
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Not really. Soviet-backed Polish Air Force was established late in the war, so this must be sometimes in late fall 1944 or later. As to where i have no clue, even taking that RAF fin flash in the background into consideration.
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Here's some info I found …
The Air Force of the Polish Army (Polish: Lotnictwo Wojska Polskiego), unofficially known as the People's Polish Air Force was the name of the Soviet-controlled Polish Air Force in the USSR between 1943 and 1947 created alongside the Polish People's Army (Polish: Ludowe Wojsko Polskie), a subordinate to the Red Army. It was the primary Polish air force formation within the Polish Armed Forces in the East during World War II.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/PL_MWP_Yak-9P.JPG)
Setting up the first combat unit – the 1st Independent Fighter Squadron (1. Samodzielna Eskarda Lotnictwa Myśliwskiego) – started on July 7, 1943. As of July 23, 1943, their first training airfield was Grigoryevskoye, about 15 km south of Moscow. On August 20, 1943, the Squadron was renamed as the Polish 1st Fighter Regiment, and on October 6, as the 1st Fighter Regiment "Warszawa" ("Warsaw").
The 1st Fighter Regiment "Warszawa", (equipped with Yak-1 and Yak-9 aircraft).
:)
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These particular Yaks are very much post-war, though...
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Sorry for the size...
I bet you say that to all the girls....I certainly did :)
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Ha, ha ;) :-[ o_O
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Sorry for the size...
(https://i.postimg.cc/5yyjcgQf/xplane9.jpg)
All gentlemen, you're right a little bit.
In the picture there is Yak-9, but this is not a photo from the war, only a frame from the film "The story of one fighter" which was filmed in Poland in 1958.
The film tells the story of Polish pilots in Great Britain, including the 306 squadron.
The author of the script was a Polish hunting ace Stanisław Skalski who shot down 18 enemy aircraft during the war, and in communist Poland until 1956 he was in prison with a death sentence for alleged espionage. After 1956, at the request of the Polish Marshal Marian Spychalski, he returned to service in the air force, he made his first flight after leaving the prison without training on the MiG jet.
The plane in the picture is in the painting of another Polish ace, Jan Zumbach, from the 303 Squadron.
If you're interested, I can send a link to the movie.
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Seb got the details right, but Radoye got the Yak first, so it's his turn next...
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I'll pass, don't have anything prepared, too busy to look for something atm... :/
Free round!
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Alright All,
As it is an open round, I offer this next one. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/cBXioA/sasguess14.jpg)
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No Christmas this year?
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Canadair CL-125?
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Canadair CL-125?
Close, but no cigar … sorry James :)
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Typo, I Suppose
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Typo, I Suppose
215, you mean? Canadair, firefighting, amphibious, expendable. James got it.
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God dammit! Typo! Can I still go though?
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God dammit! Typo! Can I still go though?
Yes … yes you can :)
Here's some info on this particular aircraft …
XP 2112 is a Canadair CL-215 amphibious flying boat, used by the Expendables team. In real life, the contracted plane for the movies is a CL-215 belonging to the Turkish Aeronautical Association, registration TC-TKZ, construction number 1026. It was formerly C-GBXQ as a Province of Ontario waterbomber, and formerly I-SRMC under Sorem ownership.
The plane is used for waterbombing, cargo airlift, search-and-rescue and maritime patrol.
The Expendables aircraft is a heavily modified version of the CL-215, with installed front firing cannon, front firing miniguns. A rear cargo hatch is installed, as well as waterbombing doors, though without the water tanks. The plane is used as an aerial gunship, ground attack strafe run aircraft, bomber, and troop transport.
In the middle of The Expendables 2, the aircraft is destroyed in a deployment under fire combat drop operation, attacking the Sang mining operation. At the time, the plane was approximately 60 years old.
At the end of The Expendables 2, the aircraft is replaced with Mr. Church's gift, of a former Soviet Antonov An-2 biplane, registration GZ-1162.
Your turn James.
:)
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Thanks DH for understanding my extremely first world problem :P
Try this guys:
(https://i.postimg.cc/SQZfwZQD/16861-E0-E-3-E1-B-4-A36-B5-CE-CA3-A9-AB25303.jpg)
James
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Burrrrrr … I think this one was used in a very, very cold place … burrrrrrr ;)
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Indeed, it was used by the American explorer Lincoln Ellsworth for his fourth and last Antarctic expedition in 1938/39.
This is a Northrop D.1 Delta, Reg. A61-1, ex VH-ADR.
The whole story and more pics of this particular aircraft can be found at
http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/Northrop%20D.1%20Delta%20VH-ADR.htm
I think DH knew it already, the baton should go to him.
]cheers[
Mike
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Fair enough.
By the decree of Mike, our one true god, DH will go next.
James
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Nice Mike and thanks to yourself and James, but I'm way under the weather today. Went sailing with Captain Morgan and Sailor Jerry, I think we tried to sail around the planet last night. :)
So, open round.
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Fine, have this:
(DH, dunno what the heck you meant with Cpt Morgan, but I wish you a quick recovery.)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DfxCHzDG/quest181027.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yWSXS776)
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A bomber from Czechoslovakia, the Aero A.300
(https://i.postimg.cc/Sx7KrHTg/141347-11185-78-pristine.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It was quick, LameHawk, congrats! The baton is yours
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I must admit I had this very picture lying around for a suitable opportunity ;)
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It looks like a Czech modified Potez 63.II
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I don't think there is any connection between the French aircraft and the A.300.
Although they did have that monstrous Bloch MB-200.
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=35032.0 (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=35032.0)
I think this one should be easier than the last
(https://i.postimg.cc/B6LGLmmC/SASQuiz63.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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de Havilland DHC-7 Dash 7 IR (Ice Reconnaissance)
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(DH, dunno what the heck you meant with Cpt Morgan, but I wish you a quick recovery.)
These Guys :)
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/40585d86-2155-4bea-9d78-d572583612a4_1.b2bbded455a29ff92841f0ec01d49f90.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF)
(http://images.samsclubresources.com/is/image/samsclub/0008366486873_A?$img_size_380x380$)
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de Havilland DHC-7 Dash 7 IR (Ice Reconnaissance)
Yay, the famous Dash 7.
Would love to fly with one of these.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezjfU4KtZtc
]cheers[
Mike
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Right James, your turn
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These Guys :)
I guessed so, but I didn't know of Sailor Jerry ;)
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Seb could you please send that link to the Yak movie?
I wonder what they used for German aircraft - probably just models and stock footage?
I'm working on some skins (for the Yak-7) (and if the roundels are wrong that's because they were wrong in the movie)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fLmTLL8q/yak.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/nr1F4Wbv/yak2.jpg)
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Alright guys,
Try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/639CYB6p/53464705-11-A9-4-FD1-9021-79-C63-C2-D70-C2.jpg)
James
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Seb could you please send that link to the Yak movie?
I wonder what they used for German aircraft - probably just models and stock footage?
I'm working on some skins (for the Yak-7) (and if the roundels are wrong that's because they were wrong in the movie)
NO FULL QUOTES!!!
Hello
I am sending a link to the movie from 1958 "The story of one fighter" from which the cadres came.
greetings
Seb
https://vimeo.com/228423431
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Try this one:
Someone has already fancied that the photo depicts the Loening XSL, but I doubt. It resembles the Fleetwings Sea Bird, but it's smaller. And I don't see any cockpit. You made me really curious.
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It's the Sikorsky XSS-1 :)
The Sikorsky XSS was a two-seat amphibious flying boat built by Sikorsky for evaluation by the United States Navy in 1933, for carrier-borne and/or catapult-launched scouting duties. The XSS-1 was powered by a 550 hp (410 kW) Pratt & Whitney R-1340D Wasp engine in a strut-mounted pod above the center-section of the high-mounted gull-wing, forward of the cockpit which was aft of the wing.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Sikorsky_XSS-2.jpg)
Based on the Bureau of Aeronautics design 106 and following a mock-up inspection the design was altered in January 1932 to use the R-1340-D1 engine and re-designated as XSS-2. It was flown in April 1933 but the design proved to be poorly controllable and the aircraft was returned to Sikorsky for repairs and modifications. However, Sikorsky was not interested in further development and in December 1933 the aircraft was scrapped.
:)
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DH got it.
There is one remaining piece of this plane left. The right wing float resides at the museum I work at.
Your turn DH
James
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the design proved to be poorly controllable
No wonder, since the pilot couldn't see shit. Anyway, well done DH, I'm glad you recovered :D
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Thanks James and sniperton :)
Well as the American Baseball Classic is well underway, I thought I would present this for the next "Quest".
(https://image.ibb.co/gWNO8A/bosoxguess.jpg)
This should be an easy one. :)
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JetBlue A320 nicknamed FlyingSox
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Well done James !!! :)
Congratulations to the Boston Red Sox for being the 2018 World Baseball Champions, by defeating the Los Angeles Dodgers 5-1 in last night's game 5 of the MLB World Series.
JetBlue Airways Airbus A320 232 N605JB celebrates the 100th anniversary of the Boston Red Sox baseball team. JetBlue Airways - the official airline of the Boston Red Sox - unveiled the latest addition to its fleet today, the plane will fly out of Logan Airport. The Airbus A320 traded signature blue branding for a gray paint scheme inspired by Red Sox road uniforms and features dangling red socks. The aircraft also includes a banner commemorating Fenway Park's 100th anniversary. Customers on the inaugural flight found Red Sox hats and jerseys waiting for them on their seats.
(https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4384/37219344421_e36c52c741_b.jpg)
Your turn James :)
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Go Red Sox!
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/s22YH8N9/39005-FC7-FA31-4-ACF-9-E38-CE9367-E98334.jpg)
James
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Well lets see …
#1 - is the Convair Liberator-Liner
#2 - is the Stinson L-5
#3 - is the B-24 Liberator
#4 - is the Consolidated B-32 Dominator x4 (I think)
:)
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#1, #2, and #3 are correct.
#4 is wrong. They are Privateers.
Baton goes to you DH
James
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#4 is wrong. They are Privateers.
They are very similar in that they both used the same rudder and vertical fin assembly, as well as, the horizonal stab and elevator assembly. Same main wing and engines as well. Also both aircraft were based on the B-24's design. :)
Alright All,
Lets try this next one.
(https://image.ibb.co/dkeJTL/sasguess19.jpg)
:)
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The B-32 uses different wings and engines. The tail is of the same style but it is not the same as the Privateer.
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WW1 types - not to mention earlier ones - aren't exactly my first choice.
Nevertheless I managed to stumble across this one.
The Ponnier L.1
First flight 1914 - never made it to the order book.
Seemingly derived from a monoplane
(https://i.postimg.cc/gJVhsxCQ/Ponnier-D-III.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Lame, that looks like a monoplane Nieuport 17
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It is the Ponnier D.III.
But Ponnier had hired a Nieuport designer, Alfred Pagny, who is behind this plane, so any likeness is purely "non-coincidental"
They added a wing on top, and the L.1 was born
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Hello All,
LameHawk is correct. :)
The Ponnier L.1 was an early French biplane single seat scout, built just before World War I. It did not reach production. Just before World War I, most French aircraft designers had concentrated, with success, on fast monoplanes. When a British biplane, the Sopwith Tabloid, won the Schneider Trophy in 1913 they were encouraged by the French government to think again about the possibilities of that wing configuration for military or "Cavalrie" types. The Ponnier L.1 of July 1913 was one response, a biplane revision of the Cavalrie version of the Ponnier D.III monoplane. The L.1 and D.III shared the same fuselage.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Ponnier_Scout.side.tif/lossy-page1-1200px-Ponnier_Scout.side.tif.jpg)
The L.1 was a single bay biplane with a pair of tall, parallel interplane struts with flying and landing wires on each side. There was mild stagger and dihedral. The wings used a thick airfoil and were straight edged, slightly tapered and square tipped; the lower wing had a slightly smaller span. The upper wing had a deep cut-out to provide some upward vision for the pilot, who sat under the wing just aft of mid-chord. The It had a fixed, conventional undercarriage with its mainwheels on a single axle mounted on a pair of V-struts to the lower fuselage longerons, assisted by a long tailskid, mounted well forward.
Ponnier had hoped for military orders but none came. When the L.1 first appeared its suitability for more powerful engines was noted; rotaries with powers of up to 100 hp (75 kW) were suggested. The Ponnier M.1, flown in 1915 and the only Ponnier fighter to reach production, benefited from the L.1, it was smaller and better streamlined, but shared some features like the thick wings, large gap, moderate stagger and slight span difference between upper and lower planes, the finless vertical tail and simple undercarriage. Its engine was a 80 hp (60 kW) Le Rhone.
Your turn LameHawk.
:)
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Thank you DH
This is clearly not a PZL.11
(https://i.postimg.cc/jd3GJPXh/SASQuiz64.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/cJQd35H7/CACTUS-KITTEN-NOSE-ART-WEB.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Curtiss Model 22 Cox Racer “Texas Wildcat” or “Cactus Kitten”
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Not too difficult I can see.
Sniperton was really first, but James being the first to actually name it I will hand it to him.
So, James, you're on
(Writing this on the phone it suggests "Bond" after "James"!)
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The name’s Fw190......P51vsFw190, international pilot of mystery, feared by many, adored by some.
There are rules for this one. Please try to refrain from looking up the registration painted on the wing bottom.
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/XNcmRhfX/9328-B318-09-C1-4031-9-B00-52709-EA2-C793.jpg)
James
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This is the: The Harlow PJC-5
The Harlow PJC-5 is a derivative design from the PJC-2. After building the PJC-2, the Harlow company designed and built a 2-place military trainer. The PJC-5 is essentially the same airplane but with tandem seating and a bubble-style canopy, ala T-34 :: Beech Bonanza.
(http://www.russellw.com/photoalbum/misc_harlow/Harlow%20PJC-5%20N21737%20right%20profile%20small.jpg)
The PJC-5 was never sold to the military in the US, but a deal was made with India. PJC-5 subassemblies were built up at Alhambra and then shipped to India for final assembly. PJC-5s are apparently fairly well known in India although long gone from flying status.
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DH, of course you got it but for bonus “In your face” points, what does PJC stand for?
Your turn.
James
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But for bonus “In your face” points, what does PJC stand for? James
Pasadena Junior College :)
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I thought Harlows were purely American civilian types.
Always something new to learn
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Hello All,
Here's the next "Quest" … enjoy. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/mg72tL/sasguess20.jpg)
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At the first sight I believed it was a much later design, perhaps from the 1950s or later, but it turned out to be from as early as 1935, the Campbell Model F. A funny plane, though, a small whale with plates for the krill on its temple. I like it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Pq0QwHBX/Campbell-F.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I love twin boom aircraft.
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Well done sniperton, you are correct. :)
Designed and built in 1935 by Hayden Campbell in St. Joseph, Missouri, the Campbell F was made of all-magnesium construction and was powered by an 85 hp Ford V-8 automotive engine. The F model was equipped with a tricycle landing gear with steerable nosewheel. It is a pusher propeller "flivver" airplane, costing $1500, twin tail design, with single ignition.
Nicknamed ‘The Flying Easter Egg’, the aircraft was damaged in a demonstration flight and never repaired.
(http://content-7.foto.my.mail.ru/mail/pdm1976/86/s-1300.jpg)
Your turn sniperton :)
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Thanks and sorry, I'm away the whole day busy with living and dead relatives, so it's better to declare it an open round.
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Lets do another twin boom shall we?
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/pdhVH0Lv/D47-A4079-582-F-43-F6-8-E16-36-ED3-C0-A56-CD.jpg)
James
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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/byKJ7-BdZ8Q/hqdefault.jpg)
;D
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Close but no cigar
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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/byKJ7-BdZ8Q/hqdefault.jpg)
;D
Awesome !!! … gave me a good laugh this morning :) Thanks Radoye !!!
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This is the: Lloyd 40.08 Luftkreuzer (Sky Cruiser)
It was a three engine triplane bomber type built during World War I. The design was proven to be ineffective and development did not proceed past the prototype stage.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Lloyd_WW1_bomber_aircraft_1.jpg)
In August 1915, the Austro-Hungarian Imperial and Royal Aviation Troops awarded funding to Lloyd for construction of a new heavy bomber that could carry a 200 kg (440 lb) bomb-load and have endurance of at least 6 hours. The aircraft was to be powered by one powerful engine in a pusher configuration housed in a central nacelle and two smaller engines mounted in twin booms on either side.
The unequal span triplane had the middle wing mounted to the lower part of the main fuselage and booms, with the upper and lower wings supported by wire braced inter-plane struts. The center section housed a 220 kW (300 hp) Austro-Daimler V-12 water-cooled engine, driving a wooden two-bladed pusher propeller. The twin booms were constructed of modified Lloyd C.II fuselages with 120 kW (160 hp) Austro-Daimler 6 water-cooled in-line engines, and two bladed wooden propellers.
Directly below the main section between the middle and lower wings, was a fully enclosed compartment with windows for the bombardier. The most forward section between the middle and upper wings also had windows and enough space for two air gunners with excellent fields of fire in all directions and was also equipped with a spotlight.
The pilot’s position was set in the rear of the center fuselage close to the pusher propeller and had very poor forward visibility. Defensive armament consisted of two Schwarzlose M7/12 machine guns in the gunner’s station and one in each boom.
(https://image.ibb.co/hbtz8L/Llyod40.jpg)
Testing of the 40.08 Luftkreuzer began on 8 June 1916 at the airport in Aszód. It was immediately clear that the machine suffered from a centre of gravity that was too high and too far forward. The aircraft was damaged when it nosed over during ground testing and was redesigned with a third wheel under the nose, similar to the Zeppelin-Staaken R.XIV, to prevent tipping forward.
In October 1916 Oberleutnant Antal Lany-Lanczendorfer attempted the first flight but the aircraft was unable to leave the ground. Early in November the Fliegerarsenal (FlArs) considered reducing the bomb load, and in December additional chassis rails were added to the main undercarriage. Development continued slowly but many of the design flaws would never be solved. Lloyd applied for a revision of the airplane in March 1917, but the application was denied and all work halted. The Luftkreuzer was placed in storage and in January 1918 it was ordered to be transported to the aircraft scrapyard at Cheb.
:)
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Correct DH.
Now we just need one in Il-2
Your turn.
James
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Now we just need one in Il-2
As a ground target, I suppose
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Thanks James,
Here's the next one. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/eVunCf/sasguess22.jpg)
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Ah, this is a famous failure - the Christmas Bullet :)
Didn't go past the prototype stage due to wings being prone to falling off at the first opportune moment.
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I am also familiar with this plane. It used a six cylinder version of the Liberty engine.
There is nothing else this could be. In my book, Radoye gets this without hesitation.
James
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Since i'm going to have only sporadic access to internet over the weekend and be unable to post a quest, i'm going to jump the gun and assume my solution was correct. In case i was wrong just ignore this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tRhDvHfT/guess.jpg)
What could this be? (https://www.h2g2.com/h2g2/skins/Alabaster/images/Smilies/f_devil.gif)
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That's Tsunami.
Tsunami was and still is the world’s fastest homebuilt race plane ever built. Dreamed up by Minnesota industrialist John R. Sandberg and designed by Lockheed engineer Bruce Boland, Tsunami was built to compete in Unlimited air racing and to capture the absolute world record for propeller driven aircraft.
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Well done Radoye … you were spot on with your guess :)
James your guess looks to be spot on as well … good job :)
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Radoye's contribution reminds me of something my children used to create in Duplo.
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That's Tsunami.
Indeed, Tsunami it is!
(or rather was :( )
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I know it’s sad Rad, maybe one day there will be another.
Until then, try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/90xGW6KP/BFDA3-F1-B-12-FF-4-FA9-AF21-3253-B55-ADC07.jpg)
James
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(https://i.postimg.cc/W3L5HYDp/weick-w1a.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Sniperton, you got it.
Your turn.
James
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I find it amazing how many different planes were built in the US between the wars. It seems that every 10th person with a workshop or a barn was busy with some sort of flying machines. :)
It's a bit different, and I hope we haven't had it yet:
(https://i.postimg.cc/XJLkbmwn/quest181103.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Free French twin boom transport plane in Africa?
Has to be Cunliffe-Owen OA-1, also known as Burnelli UB-14?
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Correct, but tell us about why it's an interesting plane :)
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It has a fuselage lifting body. A staple of all Burnelli designs. I may be one of the only people who know what these things are and I’m extremely proud to be restoring the last remaining Burnelli aircraft.
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As James said, Vincent Burnelli was a huge fan of lifting body/flying wing concept. The UB-14 fuselage was a part of the wing placed between the twin booms. I tried to find a good picture. Only came up with this :-[ :
(https://i.postimg.cc/zvnpKm3M/Burnelli-UB-14-3-view-L-Aerophile-February-1936.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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This picture of the later CBY-3 is more telling:
(https://i.postimg.cc/8PszpLX2/00789060-E2-C8-4430-BBA4-9669-B6-C4-B519.jpg)
This plane is my pride and joy as I have spent the last five years helping to restore it. We just primed her for paint last month. She is coming along nicely.
James
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Is it going to fly?
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No unfortunately.
Since it is the literal last of it’s kind we can’t take the risk of it being destroyed.
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Found a bit more info on the aircraft :)
During the late 1920s and 1930s American aircraft designer Vincent Burnelli had conceived and built a series of aircraft that sought to combine the attributes of a true "flying wing" with the practicalities of stability and size. These culminated in the UB-14 which first flew in 1934. A fuselage of wing profile provided a spacious and strong passenger cabin. A twin boom tail provided the lateral stability impossible in true flying wing designs until the use of "fly-by-wire" technology. Closely grouped twin engines minimized asymmetric handing problems. The first prototype crashed in spectacular fashion but the passenger cabin escaped with little damage, vindicating the designers claims for the inherent safety of the design. A second prototype was soon flying (the UB-14B) and attracted world-wide interest.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/35/b2/9c35b27a4117c8a72ad0c8da4ce301b2.jpg)
Burnelli never succeeded in getting his brainchild into production in the USA. However he had little problem attracting interest in other countries. Unfortunately in each case he ended up negotiating license production with companies that wanted to break into the aviation marketplace rather than ones already established in it. A deal with the Canadian Can-Car company led to only a single aircraft that only flew in 1945, while production in Holland fell through altogether. In the UK the "Scottish Aircraft & Engineering Company" was formed to build the UB-14 with British Rolls-Royce Kestrel engines. At the time there was huge unemployment in Scotland in the aftermath of the economic depression and there were various schemes to subsidize the setting up of factories in Scotland, especially in the Glasgow area (Blackburn was one company that took advantage of this, setting up a flying-boat factory at Dumbarton). It seems the Scottish Aircraft & Engineering Company was set up to take advantage of these schemes, although the only addresses listed in its many press advertisements were in London. These press adverts were prodigious and a lot of interest was whipped up for their version of the Burnelli which they called "The Clyde Clipper", no doubt a reference to where they hoped to produce the aircraft (there was also to be a cargo-carrying version to be called the "Clyde Freighter"). With war clouds looming they also advertised a "Burnelli Bomber" version. All of this came to naught- the company collapsed with only a wooden mock-up of the Clyde-Clipper to show for its efforts.
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With war clouds looming they also advertised a "Burnelli Bomber" version.
That would have been interesting ; let's see a dozen of this kind on a bombing raid to berlin, escorted by a few Spitfire Mk.Ia :D
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Next, another interesting design:
(https://i.postimg.cc/vZw1JVxw/Sieppaa.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsywnRpRDUM
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That's correct. Screenshot from that very same film. 8)
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Well in that case it's open round as I'm on the road right now.
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Cycleplane was developed by Dr. W. Frederick Gerhardt in 1923. The plane really did fly. In July 1923 it was towed by a car into the air a few times and released and it flew short periods of time. It also did one human-powered takeoff and flew 6 meters climbing to height of 60 cm.
The Cycleplane became (in)famous because of the film above. The footage is often shown in compilations along with other ill-fated attempts at human flight from the pioneering days of aviation. It is also shown in some famous movies such as Airplane! and And Now for Something Completely Different.
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This is a pretty easy one.
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/2yw0mH8Z/AACE641-A-AE16-4073-9-F63-B0006-F011-E5-F.jpg)
James
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Yep, it is. It was made where van Gogh went to school.
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It also has a pretty telling hint attached to it.
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Fokker F.25. Wiki says its design was derived from a design for a home built to escape Occupied Holland, which seems weird. Apparently it was derived from the Difoga 421
Anyway, my Yak skins are up here: http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads2&file=details&id=8028
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Mex, Thanks for the skins.
Also, You got it.
Your turn bud.
James
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Open house
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Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/bNBvLdBh/D2212892-A4-CD-4-C6-B-8-AA9-E976-D67496-B7.jpg)
James
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This is the: Planet Satellite
This British four-seater was of magnesium alloy construction, with a retractable undercarriage and ventral fin and rudder. Power plant was a 250 hp de Havilland Gipsy Queen 32 engine amidships driving a pusher airscrew in the tail. Designed by J. N. D. Heenan, it was built in the Robinson Redwing factory at Croydon and erected at Redhill in 1948.
(http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/AE/AE72-7/46-1.jpg)
The aircraft was shown at the Farnborough SBAC Show in September 1948, and was registered G-ALOI on April 26, 1949. Group Captain H.J. Wilson, Chief Test Pilot at RAE Farnborough, made the first hop along the length of the runway, upon landing the landing gear collapsed. After repairs the aircraft made another hop along the runway at a height of some 20 ft (6 m), upon landing the keel cracked. It was concluded that the aircraft was badly under-stressed and needed redesign, subsequently the project was cancelled. The aircraft "that flew, but never took off" was scrapped in 1958.
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It's very difficult for me not to mistake it with some 1946 Luftwaffe fighter project... :D
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Very good DH.
Your up!
James
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Thanks James :)
Ok all, here the next one … enjoy.
(https://image.ibb.co/hHTVcq/sasguess23.jpg)
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Oh... this one?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5fq44WR/48-big.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Too soon...
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Oh... this one?
Mike … it's like the 6M$ man … An aircraft barely flyable, we can rebuild it. We have the technology. Better than before. Better, stronger, faster. :)
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It's a cool plane, a great design with mindblowing specs.
Not suitable for the intended missions, nevertheless a great aircraft.
]cheers[
Mike
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North American XB-70
I was waiting for someone else to claim it but I couldn't resist.
The nose and canards give it away anyway.
James
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Well done James :)
I think Mike knew the answer but he was just lingering on the side … hehe.
Here's a bit on the aircraft:
The North American Aviation XB-70 Valkyrie was the prototype version of the planned B-70 nuclear-armed, deep-penetration strategic bomber for the United States Air Force Strategic Air Command. Designed in the late 1950s by North American Aviation, the six-engine Valkyrie was capable of cruising for thousands of miles at Mach 3+ while flying at 70,000 feet (21,000 m).
At these speeds, it was expected that the B-70 would be almost immune to interceptor aircraft, the only effective weapon against bomber aircraft at the time. The bomber would spend only a few minutes over a particular radar station, flying out of its range before the controllers could position their fighters in a suitable location for an interception. High speed also made the aircraft difficult to see on radar displays and its high-altitude capacity could not be matched by any contemporary Soviet fighter.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lw5_Asy71xY/Ua7ujQDv23I/AAAAAAAABIk/MhY1klzVwEQ/s1600/XB-70-Valkyrie+1.jpg)
As Mike eluded to in his post, one of the XB-70's crashed. On 8 June 1966, aircraft number two was flown in close formation with four other aircraft, an F-4, F-5, T-38, and an F-104, for the purpose of a photo shoot at the behest of General Electric, manufacturer of the engines of all five aircraft. With the photo shoot complete, the F-104 rolled inverted, passed over top, and struck the Valkyrie, destroying the rudders and damaging the left wing. The Valkyrie entered a spin and crashed following the mid-air collision. NASA Chief Test Pilot Joe Walker, piloting the F-104, and Carl Cross, copilot aboard the XB-70, were killed in the crash, while Al White, the XB-70's pilot, successfully ejected.
The remaining XB-70 Valkyrie bomber is in the National Museum of the United States Air Force near Dayton, Ohio. I've been lucky enough to see and touch this remarkable aircraft.
James, your turn :)
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Here is a possibly difficult one for you gents:
(https://i.postimg.cc/c49QSd61/761-F0-AA3-A6-C5-4-FDD-862-E-C7-D03-BB385-D6.jpg)
James
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it was expected that the B-70 would be almost immune to interceptor aircraft, the only effective weapon against bomber aircraft at the time. The bomber would spend only a few minutes over a particular radar station, flying out of its range before the controllers could position their fighters in a suitable location for an interception. High speed also made the aircraft difficult to see on radar displays and its high-altitude capacity could not be matched by any contemporary Soviet fighter.
And that's actually true for most early SAMs as well, and it also applies to the MiG-25, where the IAF made a couple of unsuccessful interception attempts with Mirage III, F-4 Phantom and Hawk missiles in the 1970s.
The MiG-25 actually was meant to end the B-70's invulnerability.
Quite like the B-70, the SR-71 was deemed virtually untouchable for the very same reasons.
It wasn't before the Swedish deployed their first Viggen jets that an SR-71 was successfully intercepted on it's full speed / max altitude flight path.
Interesting reads:
https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/comments/4x8051/svenskarna_visar_de_f%C3%B6renta_staterna_vart_sk%C3%A5pet/d6dl4rg/
https://www.milavia.net/specials/iv_viggen/
https://imgur.com/gallery/wuzrUBN
]cheers[
Mike
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Here is a possibly difficult one for you gents:
It would be easier if I could identify the airfield. It seems to have extravagantly shaped tiles on the tarmac.
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Must be Japanese with that Japanese interior blue
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F-104 ?? Just guessing from left field. :)
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It would be easier if I could identify the airfield. It seems to have extravagantly shaped tiles on the tarmac.
Sniperton: That might be a bit difficult seeing that that isn‘t a real airfield.
Must be Japanese with that Japanese interior blue
LameHawk: Nope, Sorry. Not Japanese.
F-104 ?? Just guessing from left field. :)
DH: Not an F-104. This one goes a bit faster.
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Hmmm … maybe the X-1A ??
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Apparently we see a rather narrow cockpit section with a rather short, pointed nose, and no jet intakes either in the nose nor where you would expect them to be on something like an F-104.
All of this would match the VJ-101 / Bell D-188/XF3L/XF-109, but the canopy doesn't look right and the turquoise inside the cockpit would rather indicate that it's of russian origin, however in the latter case, if the plane was faster than an F-104 and looks like a 1950s design, it should be somewhere along the line of the Ye-155, and all of these either have air intakes in the nose or up front their fuselage sides.
My bet would be that it's a fantasy plane model and James is pulling us a leg.
]cheers[
Mike
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No, it is actually a real aircraft and it is indeed Russian. I‘m not that much of an ass. This is a model of a very real airplane.
The quest aircraft has a bit in common with this aircraft:
(https://i.postimg.cc/qR6RFTGQ/A5-F36-DE3-B6-D4-4-A53-9223-9-F9-C98-BF0-B75.jpg)
James
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Well in that case... the canopy style would indicate it's a Suchoi. But it's not a P-1. But maybe close.
]cheers[
Mike
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Not a Sukhoi. That‘s too MiG-21‘ish. Think wider....
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Possibly the: Gloster Meteor F8 "Prone Pilot" Aircraft?
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That picture I just posted is the prone pilot, but that isnt the quest aircraft. I was giving you guys a hint by posting the prone pilot meteor.
This was my hint picture:
(https://i.postimg.cc/qR6RFTGQ/A5-F36-DE3-B6-D4-4-A53-9223-9-F9-C98-BF0-B75.jpg)
The actual quest picture is this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/4yShwL5t/EE491-E66-9-D22-442-B-B16-D-40770-F077-EA8.jpg)
I was pointing out that the Meteor had a similarity to the mystery airplane.
James
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Hmmm … I read Mike's reply and James's response a bit closer, so it's Russian. No intakes, that we can see anyway, could be a rocket plane. Possibly the Russian experimental aircraft 4302, however the model's nose maybe a bit sleeker, not sure.
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No to that.
It is jet powered, it is Soviet, the model displays the aircraft accurately and the basis of this aircraft has already been mentioned on the last page.
You are all looking into this far too deeply. It is much simpler than you are making it.
And one more thing, it‘s not experimental.
James
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With all these hints given, it's not that hard to conclude that it's a MiG-25, the tricky part being this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/W3zTB5pD/quest181110.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
It's the reconnaissance trainer version "RU", and I guess James has a Condor model 1:72, but James carefully mutilated the picture to fool us. "I‘m not that much of an ass", no, definitely not that much. ;D
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I‘ll give it to you but it‘s not the RU. The one I posted was the PU interceptor trainer.
Your turn Sniperton.
James
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Lol?
Ready for some criticism James?
Shoot the modeller!
Or at least for heavens sake: Don't show an image that just doesn't resemble the real plane.
Wanna know why I've ruled out the MiG at step one?
Because the nose doesn't match.
This is the real MiG-25 PU nose shape:
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQRm2nyM/straight.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dD1yv26n)
It is extremely pointed - as is to be expected for a Mach 2.5+ plane - and the radius of the shape's curve radius gets larger the more you move up front.
This is your model that just isn't a MiG-25:
(https://i.postimg.cc/sDjWzr0x/curved.jpg)
Note the difference: The nose of your model, or at least that mismatching part you've shown, is not pointed like on a MiG, the shape's curve radius gets smaller the more you move up front.
Such a plane would never reach speeds in exceed of Mach 2 without rocket power.
The quest would have been a cakewalk with a real picture.
The one shown is just a fantasy plane, that's been the difficulty here.
]cheers[
Mike
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I think someone may get TK'd tomorrow at the FAC session for this egregious outrage....watch your six James....
The aircraft behind the Meteor is the TSR2....do I get a consolation prize? :D
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The aircraft behind the Meteor is the TSR2....do I get a consolation prize? :D
Yes, I give it to you. Perhaps you should post two quest images, one for the general public, excluding James, and another one for James exclusively, preferably a tiny detail from a collection like this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/QxLsBnzk/image-105.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6ThFgzty)
:D ;D 8)
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Didn't want to start a mudslinging festival at James, all I wanted to point out is that while the model might have been intended to depict a MiG-25 PU, exactly that part shown is clearly wrong.
It's as much wrong as these guys were when they intended to build a giant Gripen scale model:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yf_QTbDeWM
]cheers[
Mike
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I actually wont be at the FAC session tomorrow. I need to be a the Museum for our Veterans Day celebration. Cheers all!
These are the pics of the model I posted BTW:
(https://i.postimg.cc/KY75y9gB/38-EFD537-7-B92-4470-B018-7158612785-CB.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QMqczHRq/3-F82-AE2-E-ADD6-4-ABC-84-AE-8-FFB6344-D3-C1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3R5J2BLS/3-ECDE33-A-3-A28-484-B-93-FB-DBE34-B4-F6-BE2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fRPbRZYh/4-ECD765-B-E352-4-B26-B72-C-DCC1-B0-D7-AACA.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/y8xdKWgP/C258-B4-C2-7-D0-C-40-D6-A2-CE-A800-EACF7281.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/HL7kJKt8/FAF19-AD4-EFC6-4-FBD-8-D54-DCADB5-D0-C5-AE.jpg)
James
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Didn't want to start a mudslinging festival at James, all I wanted to point out is that while the model might have been intended to depict a MiG-25 PU, exactly that part shown is clearly wrong.
Exactly my concern, and it's not about James, it's about our quest game. I think posting details is fine, posting full models is fine, but posting details of models might be misleading.
James, am I right that the model is a Condor model in 1:72? I was also fooled by the tiles, I supposed they were real, and as I don't know of floor tiles smaller than 10 cm, I believed the model was much bigger, either in 1:48 or 1:32.
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It is a Condor Model.
Good work, extra points to you.
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Looks like it's open round.
Guess the plane for this cockpit... base plane would probably be sufficient, precise model will give extra cookie 8)
(https://i.postimg.cc/W1HnMBpw/quest-2018-11-13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wd0gVfkd)
]cheers[
Mike
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Shot in the dark... Junker Ju 86P High altitude recce. :-|
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He-115?
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No and no :P
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Maybe... Heinkel-111B or E ?
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Heinkel-111B
Bingo!
It's indeed a He-111 B.
In particular, this is the He-111 V-8, which was based on a He-111 B, converted to become the first He-111 with "glas" nose.
The cockpit layout differs distinctively from the final -P/-H glas nose version.
He-111 V-8:
(https://i.postimg.cc/T3sv1j1N/he111-bi015.jpg)
Final He-111-P/-H cockpit layout:
(https://i.postimg.cc/htvqKZD7/6onottz.png)
Your turn Gatrasz 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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The nose "gondola" was my better clue :P
Your turn Gatrasz 8)
]cheers[
Mike
Okay, where are the mystery photos when I need them ? Hmm, this one should be easy but I like it anyway :
(https://i.postimg.cc/LhKNQhnB/mystery.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Obviously german again and from the clean layout, rather something beyond the early days, probably late war '44-'45.
]cheers[
Mike
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Possibly a Do-217K cockpit, maybe. :)
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Ju-388
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Oh yes indeed, 388 sounds good
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;)
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Ju-388
Yes it is ! Your turn :D
For the record, I was searching for some Do-335 radar-cockpit picture and then found out this one ; one of my favourites cockpit view, I have to say.
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I got nuthin. Open house
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Well then...
Guess this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/3ND4y1X9/quest-2018-11-15.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FkNs8jnJ)
]cheers[
Mike
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Not all at once please 8)
Looks like you need a hint: It's a biplane :P
On a serious note, this plane is of german origin and it was too late.
]cheers[
Mike
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Hmm, it looks like some late type of Albatros, but I don't know any of them with 4-bladed prop...
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Not Albatross, that's a dead end.
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Stinson Reliant ?
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A complete blank.
I wonder if there is a clue in the word "origin".
For all I know, these guys could just as well be American
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Aviatik D.VII maybe ? That's the only one I've found, based on the propeller and shape of the wings...
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Aviatik D.VII maybe ? That's the only one I've found, based on the propeller and shape of the wings...
Gatrasz, I think your on the right track. :)
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Aviatik D.VII
The baton is yours.
According to the magazine I took the picture from, it should be a prototype of an Aviatik D.VIII from the end of 1918.
That could either be correct (in which case the plane probably never flew), or just a typo (no other sources of an Aviatik D.VIII seem to be available to me).
Either case, since already the D.VII hardly differs from the D.VI and all D.VII images available look just the same like this "D.VIII", I'd say it's a match.
Your turn Gatrasz 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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That could either be correct (in which case the plane probably never flew), or just a typo (no other sources of an Aviatik D.VIII seem to be available to me).
+1. Both planes look much the same to me.
Here comes another guest :
(https://i.postimg.cc/Gpstrycs/misty.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I believe it's the: The Focke-Wulf Fw 191
It was a prototype German bomber of World War II, as the Focke-Wulf firm's entry for the Bomber B advanced medium bomber design competition. Two versions were intended to be produced, a twin-engine version using the Junkers Jumo 222 engine and a four-engine variant which was to have used the smaller Daimler-Benz DB 605 engine. The project was eventually abandoned due to technical difficulties with the engines.
(https://images.klassiker-der-luftfahrt.de/sixcms/media.php/11/thumbnails/kl%2005-2011%20Fw%20191-teaserbild.jpg.6193282.jpg)
The aircraft had an internal bomb bay. In addition, bombs or torpedoes could be carried on external racks between the fuselage and the engine nacelles. The design was to have had a maximum speed of 600 km/h (370 mph), a bomb load of 4,000 kg (8,820 lb), and a range allowing it to bomb any target in Britain from bases in France and Norway.
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I believe it's the: The Focke-Wulf Fw 191
Absolutely ! I now wonder if this kind of abandoned project could have an influence on the development of upcoming projects from various aircraft designers, despite the fact that they did not reach the status of series-built machines. It's always a great temptation to say that "if this plane was built, maybe she would have been..." ; on the other hand, the failure of this project may have been the inspiration to another one, with better success. Even if it's cool to have rare birds to play in the game, most of them could have been dead ends in the real life for many reasons, including bad timing, and many WW2 famous and successful machines were in fact quickly outdated.
Your turn...
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Thanks Gatrasz :)
Ok All, here is my next submission. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/ccNb9f/sasguess26.jpg)
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(We've already had this one, same picture, even. 245. You may want to post something else...)
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Kool … I'll find another :)
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Ok, here you go. :)
(https://image.ibb.co/eiCZVL/sasguess27.jpg)
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Joe Spencer's Legal Eagle Ultralight named Putt Putt. The image is reversed.
It is powered by a VW engine!
(http://www.performancepropellersusa.com/images/PuttPutt.jpg)
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Well done Fresco :)
The name Legal Eagle came about when the plane weighed in at 10 lbs less than the 254 lbs weight limit for the U.S. - thus "this Eagle is legal became the "LEGAL EAGLE." The plane is powered by a "better half" VW engine. The plane cruises along at 53 mph, stalls at 19, and according to Leonard is "real responsive and a pleasure to fly." All of the control systems are located outside the fuselage and the wings are completely sealed to prevent "those creepy crawly things" from getting in. The whole idea of this plane is to be economical - you can afford it if you want to do the work.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Legal_Eagle_Flight.jpg)
Your turn Fresco :)
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I’m currently saving up to buy one. The best thing about living in the US is that you dont need a license to fly an ultralight.
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you dont need a license to fly an ultralight
Seriously?
I have been considering a PPL some time ago.
What made me drop that idea was the time it takes to really enjoy such kind of hobby.
And I'm not keen to get a divorce suit filed against me.
Even though it would really be tempting to waste a few bucks on an old warbird to die in.
]cheers[
Mike
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Mike, I do need to remind you that regulation of ultralight aircraft in the United States is covered by the Code of Federal Regulations, Title 14 (Federal Aviation Regulations), Part 103, or 14 CFR Part 103, which defines an "ultralight" as a vehicle that:
has only one seat
Is used only for recreational or sport flying
Does not have a U.S. or foreign airworthiness certificate
If unpowered, weighs less than 155 pounds
If powered:
Weighs less than 254 pounds (115 kg) empty weight, excluding floats and safety devices
Has a maximum fuel capacity of 5 U.S. gallons (19 L)
Has a top speed of 55 knots (102 km/h; 63 mph) calibrated airspeed at full power in level flight
And
Has a power-off stall speed of 24 knots (45 km/h; 28 mph) calibrated airspeed or less
In Europe, the sporting (FAI) definition limits the maximum take-off weight to 450 kg (992 lb) (472.5 kg (1,042 lb) if a ballistic parachute is installed) and a maximum stalling speed of 65 km/h (40 mph).
You would have to check the specifics for your country to ensure legal operational limits.
James
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Correct James.
In Germany this is what you need to fly an Ultralight:
- Age of 17 (you can start the license training at 16)
- Two Modules with theoretical lessons, about 60 hours.
- Practical flight training, ~30 hours, including several mandatory lessons and min. 5 hours solo flight
- Medical Examination
- ...and a few more tiny little things
In total, you can calculate roughly 6.500 EUR for the whole license.
4K more and you have PPL, that's why ultralight doesn't make much sense in germany.
]cheers[
Mike
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Come to the US, It’s legal in all fifty states plus Puerto Rico not that you’d have anywhere to land.
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Come to the US
First things first, let me emigrate to U.K. first so I'm out of the EU at least :P
]cheers[
Mike
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let me emigrate to U.K. first so I'm out of the EU at least
Except they don't want miserable foreign workers like you (or me). I've always had my doubts about the EU as well, but I must admit the chaos they have managed to create in Britain is a bit scary
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Isn't the chaos more or less the same everywhere?
I know that many people like to predict that UK will drown in the atlantic ocean once the "hard" Brexit comes true, but I don't subscribe to that point of view.
]cheers[
Mike
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An interesting discussion, but I don't think I will elaborate. After all this is a plane "guessing" forum :)
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Sure that and our rules state that politics aren't welcome, so we won't get much further with this discussion anyway ;)
]cheers[
Mike
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Thanks guys! Sorry im late back! Here is my entry!
(https://i.postimg.cc/wvX1f1Xh/QUEST.jpg)
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What a beautiful...um...flying thing.
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Indeed, looks like a hell of a funny ride.
Initially the plane looks like a glider, but if I'm not completely mistaken, it's a late 70 / early 80 ultralight design, in particular the one that holds an altitude record for aircraft weighing less than 600 pounds, of over 26,000 ft. It also holds the sustained altitude record of a little less than 26,000 ft.
The design was a great success and hundreds of kits where sold all over the world, with many of them still flying.
]cheers[
Mike
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Is it the: Mitchell U2 Superwing?
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Correct DHumphrey! As Mike pointed out, this picture does indeed make it look like a glider, it’s why I chose this picture!I thought it a fitting contestant considering the last one! Plus I always like a good flying wing! You’re Up!
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Thanks Fresco.
Here's the next quest :) Apologies for the size of the photo.
(https://image.ibb.co/cHSjsA/sasguess25.jpg)
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Size is no problem here, it's clearly a channel wing aircraft, the Custer CCW-1 from 1943.
"Custer's summary of his invention was that the key to the lift created by a wing is the velocity of the stream of air passing over the wing, not the velocity of the airplane itself: It's the speed of air, not the airspeed!
A wing functions because the air over the wing has a lower pressure than the air under it. The conventional aircraft must reach a significant minimum speed before this pressure differential become large enough that it generates sufficient lift to become airborne.
In Custer's channel wing the rotating propeller will direct a stable stream of air backwards through the channel. A propeller will at the low pressure side normally be supplied by air from all directions. Since the half-tube prevents air from being drawn from below, the air will be sucked through the channel instead. This creates a strong low pressure area in the channel, which again generates a lift."
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Excellent sniperton !!!
Your turn :)
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Thanks, DH! It's something similar:
(https://i.postimg.cc/QdH4YTGy/quest181124.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hmmm, I think we might have had this one before.
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Is it the: Ryan Vertiplane ?
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Is it the: Ryan Vertiplane ?
Yes, it is. Congrats, and your turn -- after you specify the model and describe its main features. ;)
Hmmm, I think we might have had this one before.
That's strange, on page #48 the Vertiplane was actually named by James, but I don't find any quest picture nearby that may have prompted for that solution.
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The Ryan VZ-3 Vertiplane:
Also known by the company designation Ryan Model 92 was an American experimental vertical/short take-off (VSTOL) aircraft built by the Ryan Aeronautical Company for the United States Army.
(https://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_original/8/7/6/10212678.jpg)
The VZ-3 was a simple proof-of-concept experimental aircraft using blown flaps to achieve a short or near vertical take-off. It was a high-wing monoplane powered by an Avco Lycoming T53 turboshaft engine located inside the fuselage driving two large-diameter propellers mounted, one on each wing. It had a T-tail and originally a tailwheel fixed landing gear. It had wide-span double retractable trailing-edge flaps, these were extended into the propeller slipstream for takeoff. To enable control while in the hover it had a universally-jointed jet-deflection nozzle at the rear of the aircraft. It was later modified with a nose-wheel landing gear. The VZ-3 could make a near-vertical takeoff within 30 ft (9m) at a speed of 25 mph (40 km/h) and the aircraft could be put into the hover up to a height of 3,700 ft (1,100 m).
The aircraft conducted a 21-flight test program for the United States Army until it crashed in 1959. It was rebuilt with an open cockpit lengthened fuselage and handed over to NASA for further trials. Following retirement the VZ-3 is on display at the United States Army Aviation Museum.
I've personally seen this aircraft up close and personal in 1980 as I was going through UH-1 Aircraft Repairer School while at Ft. Rucker, AL, home of the United States Army Aviation Museum.
I get the next quest posted shortly. :)
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Thanks sniperton :)
Here's the next quest :)
(https://i.ibb.co/3mzPqCP/sasguess27.jpg)
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The sun is shining bright on this one... ;)
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PC Aero Elektra One
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PC Aero Elektra One
Good guess James … however it's not quite right. The solar panels on your guess are a bit different from the quest photo. :)
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Sorry, sorry. Let me correct that.... PC Aero Elektra One ”Solar”
That better?
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Sorry, sorry. Let me correct that.... PC Aero Elektra One ”Solar”
That better?
You're getting closer :)
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OH COME ON!!!!!
If you are looking for some extremely exact designation, then you can forget it.
This is the aircraft, yes?
(https://i.postimg.cc/J0JS1hh3/A830446-A-BED1-4-D7-A-AEE0-864521520134.jpg)
If so, then I proclaim myself winner and we can move forward with this thread......
Good day sir!
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WOW James … getting a bit torqued are we. Here is the solution.
It is the: VO-Substrata Aircraft
In its quest to bring Internet access to third-world countries, Robert Lutz flew the prototype of Calverton, N.Y.-based Luminati Aerospace LLC’s VO-Substrata for about 20 minutes over Long Island in its first test flight opened to the public. The white aircraft features wing-mounted solar cells and has a wingspan of about 43 feet.
“It’s the only aircraft I’ve ever flown where I can hear a helicopter next to me,” pilot Robert Lutz reported. “It’s a little spooky but pretty cool.”
Luminati Aerospace LLC announced a supply agreement with Hexcel Corporation – a global leader in developing advanced composites – that it says will improve the company’s access to innovative materials and technical support and further advance research and technology in the aerospace market.
(https://www.flyer.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Luminati-VO-Substrata-electric-aircraft-1000x633.jpg)
Open round.
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Sweet! I'll go then! Here's a sweet little bucket list item of mine. (Just dreaming) :-|
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZTj8PD4/QUEST.jpg)
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Cirrus Vision SF50
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Indeed James! Take it away!
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Here is a cockpit for you guys:
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnBFghqf/CDE4-C822-A3-C2-49-FD-B0-FB-EFBF1-E673-F6-E.jpg)
James
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F-104 Starfighter?
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Nice job Graeme!
Your turn.
James
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Cheers James!
Having trouble loading images/photos from my PC. Would this be OK to continue?...
(http://www.upl.co/uploads/Name-that-Plane1543454504.jpg)
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I would say... sure ! and this plane... F-35, I guess ?
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It looks very.............French.
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I would say... sure ! and this plane... F-35, I guess ?
F-35? Were you thinking of a Fokker designation?
Not Dutch.
Not French James.
A light bomber. Wiki says only two were built and the first flight was in 1929. In 1930 it set three international records.
Engine was a 800 hp Praga-built Isotta Fraschini Asso-1000 18-cylinder double-banked inline.
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Well not a lot of aircraft got this engine.....the Aero A-42 without the wheel spats and the bombs racks usually seen on it
(https://i.postimg.cc/nzpDNv17/airplane-Aero-A-42.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/HnTFJP9x/aero42-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vZXTDp71/aero42-1.gif) (https://postimg.cc/NK9BzCzY)
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Spot on DreamK. ]thumright[
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Ok - let's see this one....not really a difficult one, but...
(https://i.postimg.cc/vmxrJpNV/Image1.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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I believe it's a: SET-7K
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Yes sir! Your turn
(https://i.postimg.cc/BZ87BVgR/SET-7K.gif) (https://postimg.cc/grWKY41K)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fkn9cLKW/SET-7-K-data.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/nh13LbF9/SET-7Kd.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BQHhdPRg/SET-7-Kd-color-profile.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/66Djjfbq/SET-7-Kd-Skis.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Thank you Dreamk :)
Ok all here's the next Quest.
(https://i.ibb.co/nkLLvwK/sasguess31.jpg)
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That looks like a Stirling after it tried to kiss the ground.
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You are correct James, well done. :)
The Short Stirling was a British four-engined heavy bomber of the Second World War. It has the distinction of being the first four-engined bomber to be introduced into service with the Royal Air Force (RAF).
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Short_Stirling_bomber_N6101.jpg)
The Stirling was designed during the late 1930s by Short Brothers to conform with the requirements laid out in Air Ministry Specification B.12/36. Prior to this, the RAF had been primarily interested in developing increasingly capable twin-engined bombers but had been persuaded to investigate a prospective four-engined bomber as a result of promising foreign developments in the field. Out of the submissions made to the specification, Supermarine proposed the Type 317 which was viewed as the favourite, while Short's submission, named the S.29, was selected as an alternative. When the preferred Type 317 had to be abandoned, the S.29, which later received the name Stirling, proceeded to production.
During early 1941, the Stirling entered squadron service. During its use as a bomber, pilots praised the type for its ability to out-turn enemy night fighters and its favorable handling characteristics, while the altitude ceiling was often a subject of criticism. The Stirling had a relatively brief operational career as a bomber before being relegated to second line duties from late 1943. This was due to the increasing availability of the more capable Handley Page Halifax and Avro Lancaster, which took over the strategic bombing of Germany. Decisions by the Air Ministry on certain performance requirements, such as to restrict the wingspan of the aircraft to 100 feet, had played a role in limiting the Stirling's performance; these restrictive demands had not been placed upon the Halifax and Lancaster bombers.
During its later service, the Stirling was used for mining German ports; new and converted aircraft also flew as glider tugs and supply aircraft during the Allied invasion of Europe during 1944–1945. In the aftermath of the Second World War, the type was rapidly withdrawn from RAF service, having been replaced in the transport role by the Avro York, a derivative of the Lancaster that had previously displaced it from the bomber role. A handful of ex-military Stirlings were rebuilt for the civil market.
Your turn James. :)
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Thanks DH,
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/vmSWRXc2/26-BC738-D-6642-4010-BF77-8-A5-C380-F4-C0-E.jpg)
James
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XP-54?
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That’s correct.
Your turn Lame.
James
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Thank you, James
In spite of being somewhat unorthodox, not a great success. Thus cancelled.
Quote from wikipedia:
The XP-54 was unique in numerous ways. The pressurized cockpit required a complex entry system: the pilot’s seat acted as an elevator for cockpit access from the ground. The pilot lowered the seat electrically, sat in it, and raised it into the cockpit. Bail-out procedure was complicated by the pressurization system and necessitated a downward ejection of the pilot and seat in order to clear the propeller arc.[1] Also, the nose section could pivot through the vertical, three degrees up and six degrees down. In the nose, two 37 mm T-9 cannon were in rigid mounts while two .50 cal machine guns were in movable mounts. Movement of the nose and machine guns was controlled by a special compensating gun sight. Thus, the cannon trajectory could be elevated without altering the flight attitude of the airplane.
The Swedes may have had a bit more success with a similar configuration, the SAAB J21.
The SAAB was also unique: A reasonably successful conversion into a jet powered version, the J21R.
But that's another story.
New quest-ion: This lovely little seaplane
(https://i.postimg.cc/52pK047t/SASQuiz65.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Good thing I didn't ask you to hold your breath until you'd found it
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That's a very unique layout - I like it. At a 30s French air Salon?
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That's right 😃
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Is the manufacturer French?
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Yes
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In that case it would probably be the Caudron-Viscaya P.V.200 (or any other Caudron amphibious floatplane of the 1932-1934 era).
Source for my guess: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19930090484.pdf
]cheers[
Mike
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That's one source I haven't run into before - very interesting.
And yes. You are absolutely right. Very rare it is. Very well done.
So, your turn, Mike
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Congrats to all, I gave up after 10 minutes, and now I see I made the right decision to avoid ruining myself 8)
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You could get to it.
It was clearly late 20s to mid-late 30s.
Once we knew it was french (that's been a bit uncertain) you could search for new french amphibious planes for each year.
Amphibious because at that time pure seaplanes of this design would rather have used a "boat" design than twin floats, and in mid 30s amphibious planes were the greatest thing you could get.
Anyway, time for something easier:
(https://i.ibb.co/XzGzTGf/quest-2018-12-04.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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The Naval Aircraft Factory N-1.
http://www.historynet.com/navys-flying-cannon.htm
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Kinda looks like a MAURICE FARMAN SHORTHORN MF 11 on toons. :) I think Graeme is on the right track though. :)
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Spot on Graeme, your turn 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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Cheers Mike!
(https://i.postimg.cc/wj7mhzJb/Cockpit-2.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hands down that's an F-35.
You might think that what he's holding in his hand was a stick, but it's just a switch, similar in effect to this one:
(https://image.ibb.co/bPhtvV/land-fly-off.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Looks to me like Edd China's great-grandfather, Fredd China taking a test drive of his new flying Isetta.
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Mike - you can remove the "Fly" component from the instrumentation. It proved incapable of flight and the experience cost $250,000 over 4 years - so I dunno why the pilot/designer is grinning. Looks very complicated and dangerous, especially to ground personnel.
From the US of A and the year was 1926....
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Thank you Graeme for one of the best DADAIST/avionic photograph I've ever seen
I'm particularly impressed by the trousers bottom right ;)
Cheers
Alfie
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Just from the instrument panel and basic construction … it's possibly a glider of some sort, maybe? :)
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a glider of some sort, maybe? :)
No mate. A chopper.... ;)
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One that never flew if I'm not completely mistaken - a monster machine.
]cheers[
Mike
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No mate. A chopper.... ;)
Possibly the: Curtiss-Bleecker SX-5-1 Helicopter ?
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Spot on DHumphrey! ]cheers[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss-Bleecker_SX-5-1_Helicopter
(https://i.postimg.cc/BbZqryJX/Curtiss-Bleecker-Helicopter-M-B-Bleecker-Designer.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Thanks Graeme :)
Here's the next Quest … enjoy :)
(https://i.ibb.co/y0PTf1f/sasguess31.jpg)
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That would have to be the Boeing Vertol XCH-62...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Vertol_XCH-62
(https://i.postimg.cc/bwfNh81F/Answer.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Well done Graeme :)
Your turn.
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Cheers mate! :)
Another piece...
(https://i.postimg.cc/FHRjzxX2/Turrwt.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I thinks it's a .30 cal machine gun turret mounted on a B-18A Bomber … maybe?
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Quick and well done DHumphrey! :)
B-18 it is.
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Thanks Graeme :)
Here's some info on the B-18 Bomber.
The Douglas B-18 Bolo is an American medium bomber which served with the United States Army Air Corps and the Royal Canadian Air Force (as the Digby) during the late 1930s and early 1940s. The Bolo was built by the Douglas Aircraft Company, based on its DC-2, and was developed to replace the Martin B-10.
By 1940, it was considered to be underpowered, to have inadequate defensive armament, and to carry too small a bomb load. Many were destroyed during the attacks on Pearl Harbor and the Philippines in December 1941.
In 1942, the surviving B-18s were relegated to antisubmarine, transport duty, and training. A B-18 was one of the first American aircraft to sink a German U-boat, U-654 on 22 August 1942 in the Caribbean.
(https://media.defense.gov/2007/Oct/30/2000435621/-1/-1/0/071030-F-1234S-027.JPG)
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Here's the next Quest:
(https://i.ibb.co/Kb9KNR2/sasguess33.jpg)
Enjoy :)
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Looks like the Boeing XAT-15 'Crewmaker' (Model X-120)...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_XAT-15
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Once again Graeme well done !!!
Your turn :)
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Cheers again! :)
Try this...
(https://i.postimg.cc/c1RBDHX9/img129.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Promavia F.400 Cobra
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The F.400 Cobra it is James. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procaer_Cobra
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Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/3wMzW8Lb/E54-F51-CF-5715-494-E-A819-5558-D0824-DA4.jpg)
James
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Could be: Mooney M-18C N4142 while under inspection. :)
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There is no way you knew that off the top of your head.
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Was I right?
James, I was an aircraft mechanic (AP certified) for 38 years until I retired. :) True I did have the help of the internet to narrow it down, however I did know it was a Mooney. I've had experience working on a couple during my civil aircraft time period.
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Just checking :P
You were absolutely right.
The first flight I ever took in a plane was in an M10 Cadet.
You're up by the way.
James
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Thanks James,
Here's the aircraft after inspection and restoration.
(http://www.shu-aero.com/AeroPhotos_Shu_Aero/Aircraft_M/Mooney/N4142/M18C_Restoration/In_air_again.jpg)
Here's a link to the actual inspection and restoration.
http://www.shu-aero.com/AeroPhotos_Shu_Aero/Aircraft_M/Mooney/N4142/M18C_Restoration/index.html (http://www.shu-aero.com/AeroPhotos_Shu_Aero/Aircraft_M/Mooney/N4142/M18C_Restoration/index.html)
:)
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Ok all here's the new Quest :)
(https://i.ibb.co/wCKs0xG/sasguess35.jpg)
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Very impressive ID on the Mooney Mr Humphrey. ]thumbsup[
Your chopper - the Sikorsky R-6?
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That's the one at the USAF museum
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You guys ever seen this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/7L9T7GPs/Sikorsky-R-6-A-Hoverfly-II-N74176-NEAM-BDL-09-06-05-R-edited-2.jpg)
This is one of my favorite aircraft I've ever worked on.
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Very impressive ID on the Mooney Mr Humphrey. ]thumbsup[
Your chopper - the Sikorsky R-6?
Thank you Mr. Graeme. Yes you are correct it is the Sikorsky R-6 Helicopter. James you are also correct as this one is located at the USAF Museum at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Your example at your museum is also very nice. :)
The Sikorsky R-6:
Is an American light two-seat helicopter of the 1940s. In Royal Air Force and Royal Navy service, it was named the Hoverfly II. The R-6/Hoverfly II was developed to improve on the successful Sikorsky R-4. In order to enhance performance, a completely new streamlined fuselage was designed and the boom carrying the tail rotor was lengthened and straightened. The main rotor and transmission system of the R-4 were retained. Sikorsky allotted their Model 49 designation to the new design. Later, dynamically-balanced modifications to the rotor were carried out by Doman Helicopters Inc. The new aircraft could attain 100 mph compared with 82 mph by the earlier design.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/S-49_Sikorsky_R-6A_USAF_museum.jpg)
The first R-6s were delivered to the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF) in late 1944 and some were transferred to the United States Navy (USN). It was initially intended to pass 150 R-6s to the Royal Air Force (RAF), but delays caused by the switch of production from Sikorsky's factory at Stratford, Connecticut to Nash-Kelvinator at Detroit Michigan meant that only 27 R-6As were actually delivered to the RAF as the Hoverfly II. Fifteen of these were passed on to the Royal Navy's Fleet Air Arm (FAA).
One interesting side note … this aircraft was also the basis for this famous toy helicopter. :)
(http://www.toyadz.com/toyadz/gijoe/irwinzm2.jpg)
Your turn Mr. Graeme
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DH, thst last part about the toy is incorrect.
The toy was inspired by the Hiller HJ-1
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(https://i.postimg.cc/dQ94zwnm/img131.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I know it’s DH’s turn but that craft there is a Sawyer Skyjacker
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I know it’s DH’s turn
What?
It's been Graeme's turn. Everything's fine.
Other than that, I think you might be right 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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Skyjacker it is. ]thumbsup[
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I guess youre right.
Here you go:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bv0hBS3b/B5-CAA272-8880-43-A2-A1-B6-A08-C76-F3122-B.jpg)
James
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--> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platz_glider
]cheers[
Mike
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Correct Mike.
Your turn.
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Thanks James and thanks Google :P
Ehemm...
I'm curious whether this is too easy, too hard or just right but give it try.
Guess the plane for this cockpit:
(https://i.ibb.co/fpR5FLK/quest-2018-12-13.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Hey guys, not all at once please 8)
Hint: It's german :P
]cheers[
Mike
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Oh yes, German and as far as I can judge, twin engined.
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Correct.
Two more images of the same cockpit, left and right hand side:
(https://i.ibb.co/fnKWZNR/quest-2018-12-13-part2.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ssKTwjB/quest-2018-12-13-part3.jpg)
Time for a broad hint maybe.
If you take a close look at the boost pressure gauge, you will notice a couple of genuine features of such gauge in the particular timeframe of this aircraft, e.g. the adjustable max. pressure marker and, most notably, the maximum pressure this gauge can indicate at all.
With a list of possible boost pressure gauges (available online), you will then get to the time this aircraft has been built/flown.
]cheers[
Mike
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Mike,
I know that you said the aircraft is German, but the cockpit looks very similar to a Ki-45 cockpit.
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That's probably because both planes are built for the same purpose.
Nevertheless, the one I'm asking for is definitely german and has no further connection with the "Nick" except for the fact that they were supposed to fulfill the same task.
]cheers[
Mike
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Nobody?
C'mon...
We're in the time before WW2 and this was supposed to be a german "destroyer", a heavy twin engine fighter.
Enough clues?
]cheers[
Mike
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Ok, after looking at every other German twin I can think of, here's my wild-ass guess: Hs-124?
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No sorry, not a Henschel.
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Focke-Wulf Fw 57, maybe?
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Hooray!!!
Shakaali nailed it!
It's indeed the Focke-Wulf Fw 57 "Kampfzerstörer", built for a 1934 competition (eventually won by the Bf 110), obsolete by 1935 yet flown with 3 prototypes in 1936.
Your turn Shakaali 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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Thanks, Mike!
I was going through all pre-war German twin-engined fighters I knew searching for cockpit pictures. I found some pictures of all of them - except Fw 57, so I reckoned that's the one it has to be :D
From now on I will be away from home for a couple of days, so it's an open round.
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G'day Mike.
Looking at your cockpit photos - so there's no access area for the bomb-aimer to enter/exit the main cockpit? I was thinking the controls would've been offset to port and if the bomber-aimer was lying prone, we'd almost be able to see his feet?
(https://i.postimg.cc/6qqD997M/Focke-Wulf-Fw57.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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There is no access to the forward compartment indeed, but that one doesn't hold a bomb-aimer but a gunner instead.
The cockpit pretty much resembles the later Fw 190 layout and there's a fixed wall between the cockpit and the front gunner compartment, with the cockpit being elevated to give a better FOV for the pilot.
The plane itself was underpowered, hard to fly and slower than the bombers it should escort.
It's been almost as large as a He-111, but heavier (!) and aerodynamically less efficient.
A massive fail altogether.
Now that it's an open round, how about the next cockpit? Guess the plane for this:
(https://i.ibb.co/YfSpWKt/quest-2018-12-16.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Immediate thought: Siebel 204
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Immediately right LameHawk, your turn 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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The not so immediate new quiz:
(https://i.postimg.cc/JnKZCkft/SASQuiz66.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Have it as the needle-nosed "R" version of the CL-41...
(https://i.postimg.cc/VNmq8s6n/img132.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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A little more about Mr Nosey - from 1963...
(https://i.postimg.cc/D0JpRQfx/img133.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LgSV111P)
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Interesting aircraft and good background story, nice find!
]cheers[
Mike
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Oh yes. That nose.
Reminded me of Cleopatra's nose in Asterix!
Well done, Graeme - your turn
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Cheers for that Lamehawk.
Interior shot. Serious headroom here...
(https://i.postimg.cc/4ybtTZsm/img134.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Could be anything, literally.
The cabin looks like 1940s design, from the size (5 or 6 seats per row) something like a Lockheed Constellation, but the windows don't match.
Could be a seaplane.
Or a commercial shot of a cabin prototype for something that never flew.
As I said: Could be anything.
]cheers[
Mike
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I think it is the Sud-Est S.E.2010 Armagnac
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Yeah probably it is - as Google says: http://airliner.narod.ru/airliners1948-60/sncase2010.htm
However... that's been a Google quest then.
]cheers[
Mike
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Hadn't found that one.
My Russian isn't exactly up to scratch either
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Hadn't found that one.
But you don't want to tell me that you knew the answer off the top of your head either, hopefully.
So you could have had a book with that particular picture in it.
Mind if I doubt that too? 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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No, I don't have a book on that particular subject.
But I did use Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Airliners_1950%E2%80%931959 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Airliners_1950%E2%80%931959)
I went through the American ones, then the British ones, and then French.
Note that the French section doesn't mention The Armagnac.
It was then that the name popped up in my head. I have seen it before, and it does have a personality of its own.
Led me to this picture:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kj4JjyS7/63731-800.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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LameHawk … I think you've nailed it … have to wait for Graeme to confirm. Good find !!! :)
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Apologies for the delay.
LameHawk has it. ]thumbsup[
According to the accompanying caption...
..."the height of the Armagnac's cabin was dictated by the original requirement for three tiers of sleeping berths. By the time the Armagnac appeared most airlines had abandoned sleeping accommodation and this meant the aircraft's very deep fuselage was unnecessary with much unusable space. This was among the reasons that made Air France decide against the Armagnac".
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Thank you
A easy one
(https://i.postimg.cc/JtCRgj9H/SASQuiz67.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Cessna L-19 Bird Dog on floats?
Only three were modified?
This is the amphibious version...
(https://i.postimg.cc/KzLpKkVJ/img136.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I haven't been able to establish how many were equipped with floats. The one pictured is Canadian.
Apart from that, you are quite right.
Your turn again! ;D
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Thanks LameHawk!
(https://i.postimg.cc/bJK2VLz9/img137.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That looks pretty much like a bamboo bomber.
It comes with many different types and names...
T-50
AT-8
AT-17/A/B/C/D/E/F/G
(U)C-78/A/B/C
JRC-1
Crane-1/A
P-7
P-10
We can rule out the wooden prop versions, so the list becomes...
AT-17A/B/C/D/F/G
Crane-1A
P-10
The cockpit windows don't really want to match, which could indicate that it's a P-10 - couldn't find any image of that particular variant but it's said to have a sliding canopy.
Everything else fits and it's literally impossible to tell the exact variant in that case. Might be a photoshopped image anyway.
]cheers[
Mike
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Nice detective work Mike. It is indeed the Cessna P-10. ]thumbsup[
The photo isn't photoshopped.
Another view...
(https://i.postimg.cc/0yj9LM9H/nlt66.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Oh... I'm late to the party.
Something strange yet easy for you:
(https://i.postimg.cc/RhYr3jvK/1-elz-Mwi-L3-DLX32at-Ufy-Tow.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dZGNpNkV)
]cheers[
Mike
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I believe it's the: AirMule :)
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I believe you're right DH :)
Your turn 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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Thanks Mike :)
A bit about the AirMule:
The AirMule is a compact, unmanned, single-engine, VTOL (Vertical Take Off and Landing) aircraft. Internal lift rotors enable the AirMule to fly inside obstructed (e.g. mountainous, wooded, urban) terrain where helicopters are unable to operate. The AirMule is innovative due to its internal rotors and significant payload capacity that allows for the evacuation of 2 casualties as well as fast and flexible payload reconfiguration for other missions. It is also ideally suited to special robotic operation, for example via Tele-Presence.
(http://defense-update.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Airmule1.jpg)
Civil - AirMule offers much needed capabilities to emergency responders in routine, day-to-day operations as well as in the most challenging situations such as earthquakes and floods. The ability to quickly deliver water, food and medical supplies directly to affected populations—no matter how isolated—will save lives. During nuclear, biological or chemical emergencies AirMule offers transformative assessment and response capabilities. Day to day multiple mission capability (electric grids, bridge inspection, agricultural spraying, offshore oil platform support to name a few) makes AirMule a cost effective addition to any commercial helicopter fleet.
Military - AirMule, a tactical Unmanned Aerial System (UAS) can help combatants reclaim an essential edge by enabling precise point to point logistic support and CasEvac solutions in battle conditions that are increasingly averse to conventional rotorcraft access. Today’s conflicts are increasingly defined by insurgents whose battlefields of choice are cities, villages and other environments that are inaccessible to helicopters. Supply convoys and medical teams entering these locations experience lethal threats unlike any that have been experienced in the past.
:)
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Hello All,
Here is the next Quest. :)
(https://i.ibb.co/5R8ZdD4/sasguess35.jpg)
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Grumman / Columbia XJL?
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Excellent Radoye, it is the Grumman Columbia XJL. :)
The Columbia XJL is a large single-engined amphibious aircraft designed by Grumman Aircraft but built by the Columbia Aircraft Corp. It was intended to replace the Grumman J2F Duck but the type did not reach production status.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rUHyHq68ak0/TFlQ_E7Sw0I/AAAAAAABBYI/zeXLZayPk_E/s1600/columbiaXL1-9a.jpg)
At the end of World War II, Grumman completed a major re-design of the aircraft for the USN as a Wright R-1820-56 powered monoplane amphibian. The new design was turned over to the Columbia Aircraft Corporation for development and construction so that Grumman could focus on the production of fighter aircraft for the USN.
The aircraft strongly resembles the J2F Duck, except for its monoplane layout, and has been referred to as a "single-winged Duck". It is, however, a completely new design.
The USN ordered three XJL-1 experimental aircraft from Columbia, with the first being used for destructive strength testing on the ground. The remaining two airframes, assigned USN BuAer Nos 31399 and 31400, were delivered to the USNs test establishment at Patuxent River Naval Air Station Maryland for evaluation in 1946.
The two aircraft tested at Patuxent River were found to have repeated structural failures of various components and testing was abandoned on 21 September 1948. The aircraft were deleted from the USN inventory in February 1949. No further orders were placed for production of the JL design.
Your turn Radoye.
:)
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The aircraft strongly resembles the J2F Duck, except for its monoplane layout, and has been referred to as a "single-winged Duck".
Yeah, that's how i found it, i googled "Grumman Duck monoplane" :D
I declare an open round!
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Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Qt6DXmcf/E307-BC0-C-FE25-42-CC-97-A2-9-C2-DDB45-E2-D7.jpg)
And for bonus points, try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/dV8K7w8k/8-CA8436-B-36-B7-419-A-A92-B-AB1-EDFF5-C72-E.jpg)
James
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Wright F3W-1 Apache.
Dunno the bonus points.
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It is an Apache.
Your turn Graeme.
James
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As for the bonus points... we've been talking about it yesterday on the FAC session, so this is kind of cheating 8)
It's a McCulloch 4 cylinder 2 stroke engine, technically similar to what's being used in chainsaws (not 4 cylinder in that case of course lol), IIRC it's from an old WW2 drone.
These engines were (and are) being used on ultralight planes as well, despite their design operational lifetime of just a few hours.
I don't remember whether you've mentioned the precise type James, but from the shape of the engine, especially it's carburettor and the lower part of the type plate, I'd say it should be a 4318A, military designation O-100-1, with 72 HP.
Engines of this type were used e.g. in RP-15 (OQ-6) drones from 1943 onwards (see e.g. http://www.rdaero.com/docs/history_of_the_mcculloch_engine.pdf).
]cheers[
Mike
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Cheers James.
Interesting info on the engine Mike.
Another biplane...
(https://i.postimg.cc/Gm46kVMh/img096.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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British ???
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P.W.S.16?
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British ???
In a way. It's the Polish licensed production version of the Avro Type 621 Tutor, with some changes.
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P.W.S.16?
That'll do me mate. :)
It's Christmas!
It's a little higher - but well done! The Polish PWS-18.
Cheers!
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Here is a quick one for the holidays:
(https://i.postimg.cc/3rX48VxL/AACDF0-A3-D0-C1-4804-BE69-5726-B3-FCFADC.jpg)
Happy Holidays!
James
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One of the many S.I.P.A 901s produced for the French schools of the Service de l'Aviation Legere et Sportive?
(https://i.postimg.cc/qMr8V4pY/img142.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Correct.
Your turn.
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Is it an F35..?
(In b4 /slap)[/slap]
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(In b4 /slap)[/slap]
(Out after /slap)[/slap]
]cheers[
Mike
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Another light aircraft....
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8YgY4kx/img143.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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West German - first flight in 1959.
According to Wiki it was to be produced for the German Air Force as a "low-cost training aircraft for its budding jet pilots".
Continental C-90 engine in the nose driving a 6 metre shaft to the rear prop. Lottsa vibration and the Luftwaffe eventually lost interest - only one built. Walter Horten flew it several times.
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I'll shut this one down. Twas the Putzer SR.57 Bussard.
Have a Happy New Year's! :)
Open House.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y900mkmp/Bussard.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Sorry Graeme, seems like all of us are busy with RL aspects at the turn of the year.
I'm sure there'll be more activity in this thread again next week.
]cheers[
Mike
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A super easy one to start 2019! ;)
guess this!
(https://i.postimg.cc/d1W6FP65/guess2191.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Amazing how they manage to roll out a new version of the F-35 on day two of the year already 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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That’s the new Italian version right?
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Yes, I'm sure it's one of the hangars of the Cameri FACO facility And we see it with the green prior to the final grey finish.
But the designation is not yet the exact one. ;D
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But the designation is not yet the exact one. ;D
Sparviero +10 ;)
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Maybe we have a winner... :o
But the strict rules demand a exact name was said. ;)
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I don't have anything ready for the next round so i'll let someone else solve my little equation and provide the exact name. :)
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I dont think youve won yet
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I dont think youve won yet
I know, i said i'll let someone else win instead.
But the solution can be guessed from my earlier post ;)
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Alright, I'll just say it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM.89
Open round!
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In agreement!
I confirm Gianky! the last one was the S.M. 89 ;D
As the decree opened round I return with this again.
Guess this
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhX8gyNc/guess2193.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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Short SB.4 Sherpa
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yes it is!
Short SB.4 Sherpa... a barely glider, with rotatable wingtips :o
Correct as always; undefeated champion... ;D
Your turn now!
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Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bv0RnPqQ/21161458-807-F-4512-94-A3-3597-ACD1-AC47.jpg)
James
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Whatever it is, it should have been called "Camel" :D
]cheers[
Mike
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The Angus Aquila...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Aquila
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You used reverse image search didn’t you?
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Simple recognition James.
I'm old and have a reasonable library. The Aquila appears in an issue of Aeroplane Monthly which eventually with all the other British ultralights it portrayed over the years became a book in 1987. It also appears in volume one of the 1959 Putnam devoted to British civil aircraft. A very distinctive looking machine...
(https://i.postimg.cc/jjXJTwz6/img155.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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A book you say? You mean this book:
(https://i.postimg.cc/gJF8KfKk/image.jpg)
By the way, you are right obviously.
Your turn.
James
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Yes, that's the one.
Moving on...
(https://i.postimg.cc/bNBsDCk5/Junkers.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Junkers F-13 maybe, not quite sure on this guess.
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Hello DHumphrey.
It's not a German aircraft and you're looking at the starboard engine.
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Russian?
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Hello LameHawk.
Not from Russia.
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Sure is not a Junkers G-31? o_O ::(
(https://i.postimg.cc/BnjDYBLj/jug31-3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Sure is not a Junkers G-31?
Yeah, I'm sure. :)
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Torpedo bomber.
Only one built.
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Stout ST?
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Stout ST?
Hello Shakaali.
Not the Stout - but you are getting very close to the answer. :-)
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Stout ST?
Hello Shakaali.
Not the Stout - but you are getting very close to the answer. :-)
The Stout-ST-1? … if this is the correct answer, I tip my hat and turn to Shakaali, as I went with his answer and just researched a tad bit more. :)
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It's not the Stout.
If you look at the Wiki page for the Stout ST-1 - you'll see there were a few other torpedo bombers evaluated by the US Navy around this time - the "Quest" machine is mentioned...
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If you look at the Wiki page for the Stout ST-1 - you'll see there were a few other torpedo bombers evaluated by the US Navy around this time - the "Quest" machine is mentioned...
Hmm...
Fokker FT and Blackburn Swift were quite different designs, and there were more than one built, both of them.
So it has to be...
Curtiss CT!
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yes! ;D
i agree to shakaali...
have to be it!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_CT
(https://i.postimg.cc/4dwy99pp/NASM-CW8-G-T-1845.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFFsRtW4)
give him the baton! ;D
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Curtiss CT!
Spot on. :)
(https://i.postimg.cc/FsgDKHZK/Curtiss-CT-1-Torpedoplane-4.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Ok, here you go:
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1NrScYf/mikalie.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
:D
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Hello shakaali!
First of all, happy birthday! ;D
What I found, it's not because of my knowledge of airplanes ... :-|
I got to see the Finnish national insignia under the wings. ;)
By the AA of your nickname I assumed you were finnish (confirmed with your profile) :o
So I just looked for a museum of historical aviation ... Suomen ilmailumuseo and there I started looking for the planes I did not know ... :-[
I found this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/HjDf1ywf/Adari-AD3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9wbxGzNp)
Adaridi AD3
It would have been fun if the museum was designed by Alvar Aalto. ;D
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Very good, Locopiston! Spot on.
Your turn
(And yes, I have been around for half a century today o_O)
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Congratulations, Shakaali!
And may you have a happy second half ;)
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Tanks Shakaali! ;D
one easy to roll the baton.
Guess this!
(https://i.postimg.cc/T390KpF6/Lockheed-Martin-F-35-early-prototype.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
is all yours Mike
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Eurofighter Upgrade?
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Really good call on the Finnish light plane from the previous page.
The MiG above - the STOL MiG-23 PD?
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or it could be the: MiG-23-01 "Faithless"
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Congratulations to all! ;D
I have a problem here... :-|
For me, STOL MiG-23 PD or MiG-23-01 "faitless" are the same plane... :-[
I can be wrong But I'm going to give it to Graeme who said it first. We will see if Dhumphrey complains and we learn from the debate. ;)
Mike; The classic answer could also have been valid since its dorsal hatch for the STOL is the same that was later developed in the VTOL for Yak-141 to later become that chubby and gray sparrow that we all know. ;D
You turn Graeme!
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Congratulations to all! ;D
For me, STOL MiG-23 PD or MiG-23-01 "faitless" are the same plane
No worries locopistion, if it's the same plane, I agree it's Graeme's turn. :)
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Cheers for that!
A nose...
(https://i.postimg.cc/g0p97Sct/Beech-Jet-Mentor.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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look so cheap. :-|
twing? jet? or scary glider? o_O
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Yeah, a jet homebuilt - only one built.
Powered by one General Electric J-85.
From the US of A.
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Is there a reason we can't see the aft end? Is this a new build or a conversion of something?
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Is there a reason we can't see the aft end?
Yes, I'm attempting to avoid showing the N registration. :)
Is this a new build or a conversion of something?
It was a new build way back then (1979) but it incorporated parts from a Mooney light aircraft, Learjet and a Ryan drone...
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4n5DnWx/img161.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I will never doubt the courage of the pilot that flew that plane.
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Is some american homemade heinkel he-162 o_O
build from a Ryan lighting bug body; a learjet engine; wings and landing gear off mooney M20 and a 20" plexiglass pipe. ;D
but still dont know who build it an how named it ::(
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I will never doubt the courage of the pilot that flew that plane.
Sadly he died in this aircraft when it crashed on August 15, 1979 near Puget Sound.
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but still dont know who build it an how named it ::(
You'll find this aircraft in Aerofiles in the "Ha-Hu" section. The name is the same as a well known fastener seen on clothing.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bwxLjWqG/img165.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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he died in this aircraft when it crashed
...from an unrecoverable spin.
Which leads us to the question: Why?
Why on earth does mankind always have to repeat the same mistakes?
The whole layout of this plane screams that it isn't stall- or spin-safe.
Both at certain side slip angles and at certain AoA you have to lose control.
]cheers[
Mike
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(https://i.postimg.cc/jjzJLX3q/HH-1-Zipper.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
here are Bob Hammer and Lt Col Dick Hunt in yours HH-1 "Zipper".
Dick was the stalled one.
Easy with your tips. :-[
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Beautiful timing there Locopiston.
Well done - over to you. :)
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Tanks Graeme! ;D
Guess thiss!
(https://i.postimg.cc/sDTGMvTZ/SU-57.png) (https://postimg.cc/9rqQSF5W)
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Something completely new to me. I thought forward-swept wings died with Sukhoi.
And I've never heard of the SAT Bureau before....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KB_SAT_SR-10
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Yes!
you turn again Graeme! ;D
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Thanks Locopiston. :)
But I think it's time for someone else to have a go.
Cheers!
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Having spent more than two days without activity, I proceed to comply with the rules. :(
as was also open-circle declaring there is no contradiction. ;D
Guess this!
(https://i.postimg.cc/9XvYwMrp/guess-2019113.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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Miles Monitor!
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Yes! You are on rockdoon! ;D
Is a miles monitor high speed target tug. o_O
you turn now!
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One of the nicest target tugs ever been.
]cheers[
Mike
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Ok here you guys go
(https://i.postimg.cc/Zqp09vgK/D13680-A8-8690-4-C75-942-B-7-C32-A4-DADC8-D.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Possibly an AT-6 or SNJ … or possibly a Harvard :) I'm pretty sure it's not an F-35 :)
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Possibly an AT-6 or SNJ … or possibly a Harvard :) I'm pretty sure it's not an F-35 :)
unfortunately it is none of those
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Fixed undercarriage. Canadian? The North American NA-64 Yale?
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Fixed undercarriage. Canadian? The North American NA-64 Yale?
congrats your correct!
this one means a lot to me as i helped rivet the tail cone and center section
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5T6NGp9/17635505-1362016027191530-6849999034718788615-o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MvFc2rsx)
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Very nice - well done. :)
Moving on...
(https://i.postimg.cc/C5n8CM5J/Valkyrie.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I think we need Mike to identify this
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Looks like a miniature XB-70 or possibly a F-35 :)
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Very Rutanish huh?
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I know - it's an updated Focke-Wulf Ente. Note the fixed undercarriage
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Not a Focke-Wulf - but it is German, powered by 130 hp Hirth engine.
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With data it's easy ... :-[
(https://i.postimg.cc/4xsvsny2/post-2174-141090155197.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/56KQm4w8)
It's up for sale to the trailer... ;) A little expensive for my pocket... o_O
By signature, I think that Storebror could know something. ;D
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It's up for sale to the trailer... ;)
It was. Has been sold in 2012.
By signature, I think that Storebror could know something.
That's another Mike, I don't have anything worth $1M to sell 8)
Well then, a plane that killed it's constructor where only two prototypes of the successor (depicted by loco) have been built and nobody knows where they are right now.
I'd call that an "Ente" :P (german pun. Ente = Canard, but also Ente = Hoax).
]cheers[
Mike
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Nicely found Locopiston. :)
The Richter Delta Dart II from 1996...
(https://i.postimg.cc/yNp9k3f5/img170.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I still had not said the name! ;D
what do we do now? :o
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well, as it seems that I guessed (even without saying the name ;)) here we go!
Guess this! ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/1tVr864h/guess2019117.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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I will give it a try … the C.W. Aircraft Cygnet :) Maybe?
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Yes! DHumprey! ;D
sorry for the delay.
It's C.W. Aircraft Cygnet minor. Predecessor of the GAL.42 Cygnet II.
With its elegant windshield of dubious use.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qR3WscdX/1285-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
You turn now!
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Thanks locopiston :)
Here is the next Quest … enjoy. :)
(https://i.ibb.co/X8FqSG0/sasguess41.jpg)
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Belphegor is here...
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I remember that French series!
(https://i.postimg.cc/pTpFhRZM/Pulp-Belphegor2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Belphegor is here...
Very good Gaston … you are correct, well done !!!
The PLZ M-15 was a jet-powered biplane manufactured by WSK PZL-Mielec in Poland for Soviet agricultural aviation. For its strange looks and noisy engine it was nicknamed Belphegor, after the noisy demon.
(http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/resize/550x600/http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mandatory.com/media/2012/05/02-belphegor.jpg)
The aircraft was designed in Poland in response to a Soviet requirement for a new agricultural plane, for use above the very large areas of Soviet farms, the kolkhoz collectives, and state-owned sovkhoz. A requirement was that the new aircraft was to be more modern and efficient than the Antonov An-2SKh and An-2R.
The aircraft was a metal twin-boom sesquiplane, with a jet engine over the crew cabin. Part of lower wings and chemicals tanks were made of a laminate to avoid corrosion. The upper and lower wings were connected with two thick columns which housed the chemical tanks, 1450 L (377 US gal) each. The tricycle landing gear was fixed. The crew was a single pilot; two technicians could be carried if necessary. The M-15 was fitted with spraying and dusting gear, powered with compressed air.
Your turn Gaston :)
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It was quite an easy one, so I have no glory !
Anyway, here we go for the next one :
(https://i.postimg.cc/BQf17vTS/Quiquizz27.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
What plane is this ?
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Reply #2629 on: December 06, 2017
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The answer via Mike and LameHawk :)
You won't get more than this:
Martin TB-26G-25-MA Marauder S/N 44-68221 rebuilt to single XB-26H prototype ("Middle River Stump Jumper"), a testbed for the landing gear proposed for the Boeing XB-47 Stratojet and Martin XB-48 bombers. Flight tests were carried out in May/June of 1945 at the Martin field.
Cheers!
Mike
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Oh, I did not remember it has been on the quizz before, sorry... in any case... LameHawk is next in line !
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Sorry - no time right now.
I think you should have another go
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OK, man. So, I take this again, hoping this one has not been asked until now :
(https://i.postimg.cc/mgG5HkS0/Quiquizz43.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
What is this plane ?
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Vought V-141, taken from a mirror through a wet pane of stained glass?
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Right, a Vought-141. Photo modified at home. Here is the original one :
(https://i.postimg.cc/66Gn91wQ/Vought-V-141-150.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Your turn, Mex !
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Here's a tough mission for you heathens:
(https://i.postimg.cc/wBfsz8w4/xplane10.jpg)
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Possibly a Rockwell Shrike Commander?
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No sir, this one has a low wing
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Funny plane.
Google has it (I didn't know it before), but I won't spoil the fun here 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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Piper Aerostar?
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The Angel Aircraft Corporation Model 44 Angel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AAC_Angel
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Graeme got it. Apparently it was designed for religious missionaries - the most unmilitaristic plane in the world?
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Tough lot, those missionaries.
(https://i.postimg.cc/zvvBQnqn/Capture.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Cheers!
Open House
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Who can identify this derelict aircraft?
(https://i.postimg.cc/BQdF5zpK/092030-BC-9-D7-C-430-B-955-A-33571-DA5-EC10.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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B-25 maybe...
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B-25 maybe...
Very good! Your up...
Bit of backstory on this plane as well, it’s the only known B-25J in north America that was a Russian lend lease aircraft
(https://i.postimg.cc/MT1nZZVZ/CADB7720-D578-4239-AF68-BA1-BEEC04-AB5.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Here’s the wing panel with the Russian star
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I think this will be easy:
(https://i.postimg.cc/5NxcyMnJ/P1010115-r.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Is it a P&W wasp? The R1340?
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No, neither P&W nor American...
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hmmm is it a Shvetsov ASh-62?
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No chance! this is ASh:
(https://i.postimg.cc/VsDdNrhg/ASh.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KYJdTbh6/ASz.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rdRn6vmj)
Maybe this help you:
(https://i.postimg.cc/d3KpPV2T/fafnir.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
edit:
I have rushed, nor read that you have written 62 o_O when I see "ASh" I have automatically thought about 82...
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Bramo 323?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bramo_323
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Yes sir! BRAMO 323A Fafnir
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Cheers! I wouldn't have found it without the photo caption clue.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fR4Cp22c/Potter-Crawling.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hm...looks like a cargo hold cover :)
is something from the twenties or early thirties?
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just throwing it out there could it be a B36?
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He's crawling around in the starboard wing. The photograph was taken in 1949. High wing aircraft with 4 engines, so not the B-36...
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Lockheed Constitution?
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Not the Constitution.
Not from the US of A.
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Maybe the Shorts Stirling Bomber?
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maybe the sunderland?
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im in hollidays ;D
only have the phone ... a shoot in the dark :o
Breguet 730 :-|
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Time for a clue...
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQ8QWYFJ/Sunday-Clue.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Is it the Blackburn B-101?
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That'll do me rockdoon. :) Over to you.
It is the GAL.60 Universal Freighter which was eventually taken over by Blackburn to become the Beverley.
(https://i.postimg.cc/3NQVqNp7/1434618737867.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/0NmCBfCM/img188.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Ok here we go what plane was I riding in here
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZfNTktq/EFC5-B0-A9-E6-C8-4580-9-F4-B-42799-DDA0-C32.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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DC-6
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Nope not a DC-6
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PB4Y-2 firebomber?
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PB4Y-2 firebomber?
Very good, I’m impressed by how quick that was lol
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B-25 QECs... very cool... I still remember the day as a kid I found out there were still flying Privateers, and working no less!
Anyway, I got nothing, so open house
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ok then i got one more
(https://i.postimg.cc/brwkRsxR/guess.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The Chum?...
(https://i.postimg.cc/FR8JFcZ5/img196.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The Chum?...
Yep back to you graeme
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(https://i.postimg.cc/HLtLN7N9/img198.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Theiss Speedster
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That's the one...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theiss_Speedster
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Guess this pretty thing:
(https://i.postimg.cc/bJFRFyM0/D626324-E-A275-4-B39-8001-B683-E0-CE4097.jpg)
James
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The Renard R-37.
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Correct,
You’re up.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/ThMWD24C/img200.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Parts of WW2 German jets ?
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F-100 I think, judging by the dorsal strake and flat bottomed fuselage.
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It's not German or from the US of A.
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French? Mystere?
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Tail section, fin, flat bottom, windshield... all of this would match a Fiat G.91.
The three slats on the left side of the fuselage, right above where the wings would attach, (bleed air outlet or additional air intage for the jet engine?) however don't want to match.
]cheers[
Mike
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Is that nose art I see under the pilots windscreen? Looks like an Albatross.
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The Fiat - that's what I thought!
But I have been looking in vain for those intakes/outlets as well.
Pretty certain it's fifties type though
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Is that nose art I see under the pilots windscreen?
Well spotted! Here's a close up...
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1qVNFdh/Nose-Art.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The grainy photo was taken in 1980, but it is a machine from the late 50's.
Not French, Italian or Czech.
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i thinck is this. ;D
FFA P-16
(https://i.postimg.cc/YSrnC42k/images-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
;D
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The basis of the first Learjet
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I've been looking at the P-16 today for quite a while, but couldn't spot these air intakes and the tail looked round to me.
But indeed, when cut apart at the right point, the rear section comes along with a "flatish" bottom and the air intakes only open up on demand:
http://www.grubbyfingersshop.com/walkaround_galleries/FFA_P-16_Walkaround_X-HB-VAD_Swiss_Air_Force_Museum_2015/content/FFA_P-16_X-HB-VAD_Swiss_Air_Force_Museum_2015_04_GrubbyFingers_large.html
]cheers[
Mike
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Nicely found locopiston. :)
(https://i.postimg.cc/5t97BLsG/img203.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The Supermarine type 562, maybe?
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ok tanks graeme! ;D
lets go with one similar trougt i found the P-16 :o
(im in holidays at brasil and no have my mistery folder)
guess this!
(https://i.postimg.cc/LXhp66vn/IMG-20190126-210856.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Yes dhumphrey
i was forgotten remove the name of the museum because that delete and repost. :-[
you are absolutely right!
you turn now
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Thanks locopiston :)
Here's a bit on the aircraft:
The Supermarine Type 525 was a British prototype naval jet fighter aircraft of the 1950s.
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/xplane/supermarine525/supermarine525-6.jpg)
The Type 525 was a late development of the Type 508 of which three examples had been ordered from Supermarine in November 1947 to Air Ministry specification N.9/47. The Type 508s were to be development aircraft for a carrier-borne interceptor, reconnaissance and low-level nuclear strike aircraft to be built later by Supermarine to specification N.113D and which became the Type 544 which entered service as the Scimitar.
The first Type 508, serial VX129, was a straight-winged jet aircraft fitted with a V-tail ("butterfly") tail intended for use with rubber deck landing techniques, the choice of wide, flattish fuselage and V-tail being designed to provide adequate stability and clearance when landing without a normal undercarriage. It first flew on 31 August 1951. The second Type 508 VX136 was fairly similar to the first aircraft but was redesignated as the Type 529 and first flew on 29 August 1952.
The third Type 508 VX138, built like the others at Supermarine's Hursley Park experimental department, was modified on the production line to closer to Scimitar standards and was redesignated the Type 525. This aircraft was delivered by road to the Aeroplane and Armament Experimental Establishment (A&AEE) at Boscombe Down, Wiltshire, on 25 April 1954. It made its first flight on 27 April 1954 at the hands of Supermarine's test pilot M J Lithgow.
The Type 525 was powered by two Rolls-Royce Avon turbojets and fitted with a taller tricycle undercarriage positioned further out on the wings than on the Type 508. It had a conventional tail and rudder surfaces and swept wings. It made its first public appearance at the September 1954 Farnborough Airshow.
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Hello All,
Here is the next Quest :)
(https://i.ibb.co/KWBSdBK/sasguess43.jpg)
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Fairchild XC-120.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/VsRywmdB/img206.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pypcYNQp)
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Excellent Graeme, your turn :)
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Thanks Dhumphrey.
(https://i.postimg.cc/6p9GYgQQ/Rare.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Beaufighter Mk.21?
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Not the Beaufighter.
That's the cockpit you see.
Take-off weight was only 425 kg.
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Is it German?
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Those triangles?
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Not German.
Unsure of the "triangle" purpose.
The aircraft now resides in a museum.
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Those triangles?
I believe they are emergency "cut here" locations.
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Which way is forward (not that that will help, but...)?
British?
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Engine to the left - tail to the right.
To me - it looks very much like the Bell XP-77.
It was built in an attempt to create a World speed record in the 500 kg class.
Not British.
My photo is from the net.
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XP-77 has a completely different cockpit.
See here:
(https://i.postimg.cc/nVTH8hWC/B9-AFFC98-7-FAC-4617-8077-AD4100-AA455-F.jpg)
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I was referring to the aircraft in general - not just the cockpit.
Next and possibly the last clue - it's Czech.
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Time to end this one.
It was the BAK-01...
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=cs&u=http://www.vhu.cz/exhibit/letoun-bak-01/&prev=search
(https://i.postimg.cc/BvFkbcHk/Letoun-BAK-01-03.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
OPEN HOUSE
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Never seen it. Never heard of it!
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Looks great though.
Looks like it might be a bit unstable.
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can you guys guess this?
(https://i.postimg.cc/sxVyNcBH/guess.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I think B-25 with unusual spinner, practically I am sure: air rush up, landing gear, wing dihedral, propeller...
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Cowling and carburettor air intake are also unusual, might be a completely different engine installed here.
Other than that I agree, the wing, nacelle, gear... that's all B-25 stuff.
We seem to be looking at some kind of B-25 engine test bed here.
]cheers[
Mike
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Okay, have it.
It's not an enginge test bed, it's the NA-98X "Super Strafer":
(https://i.postimg.cc/SN3Y2ry8/na-98x-front.jpg)
Indeed it's using different engines, these are P&W R-2800s.
]cheers[
Mike
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It's not an enginge test bed, it's the NA-98X "Super Strafer"
]cheers[
Mike
Wow, some kind of super-Mitchell !! 8) :o
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I don't know if it's my turn but here goes:
(https://i.postimg.cc/bJJj0pt3/P1010103.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Lqr72dv1)
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Wow, some kind of super-Mitchell !! 8) :o
That is reserved for the XB-28. It is truly a Super Mitchell.
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Yep it most certainly was the NA-98x it used the cowling structure from the A-26 to help speed up testing. it also had clipped wings
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Tu-2?
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Mex, it’s not even macgivers turn, it’s Mikes turn.
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Just go ahead it's fine with me 8)
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I retract my statement
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You can retract your gear but the statement was just fine 8)
I agree with mexchiwa on macgiver's quest pic, it looks like a Tu-2 engine installation indeed.
The engine shown would either be an R-2600 or an M-82, the colors indicating that it's the latter (typical "Brilliant Medium Blue" underside and "Light Sand-Brown" on the upper side of the cowling).
M-82 would potentially be found on Tu-2, Pe-8 and La-5 and it's successors.
The location of the oil radiator gives away that it's a Tu-2.
]cheers[
Mike
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Macgiver, confirmation? If I'm right (and with Storebror on my side I can't be wrong) then open house...
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99% sure it's a Tu-2. To keep things moving, open house
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here you go maybe this one will present a challenge
(https://i.postimg.cc/sDgBYnYS/Mystery.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Low-Rider custom mod of an F-35?
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Wew that's a lonnng nose.
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Isn't it a 4-seater modification of a 2-seater training Jet ?
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Yes. We've had it before
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Low-Rider custom mod of an F-35?
LMAO! :D AAAAAHAHAHAHAH!
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Low-Rider custom mod of an F-35?
Now that’s an idea lol
Isn't it a 4-seater modification of a 2-seater training Jet ?
Your correct in it being a modification but it wasn’t a trainer and it was more than 4 seats
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The Jetcraft Mystery Jet.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5t2tGT4x/0196893.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I never seen that thing before. Looks like a mini passenger airliner version of the RAF Vampire.
Cool 8)
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Another name I see is the Executive Mark I. Also proposed was the Mark II and III.
They were all to be based on surplus de Havilland Vampire T.Mk II jet trainers which were to be supplied from a British firm called Strato Jet UK Ltd and Jetcraft were going to produce the Executive aircraft in a Las Vegas factory. Chief engineer was Floyd Snow.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bNhfmvjQ/img219.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I never seen that thing before. Looks like a mini passenger airliner version of the RAF Vampire.
Cool 8)
That’s exactly what it is
And good job graeme over too you
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Reminds me of a story I've read somewhere when a former RAF pilot described how he took his wife (!) in a Vampire T.11 for a ferry flight to Kairo (via Rome) back in the very early 1950s.
If only I could remember where I've read it...
Anyway: Back then his wife was just overwhelmed by how fast they could travel the world. Nowadays the unbelievable part of the story is that the wife was onboard at all, but things must have been different back then.
Using the Jetcraft Executive, the flight would have been somewhat more comfortable and the wife could have prepared a coffee (or tea) on the way ;)
]cheers[
Mike
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Another nose...
(https://i.postimg.cc/gJd05WhB/Nose.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Radical new organic F-35
(https://i.postimg.cc/j2KqJZS7/EWJEJZz.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/62jxkVRW)
Hypsignathus monstrosus
Cheers
Alfie :)) :)) :))
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A Batplane :P
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Yummy. Fried with some coleslaw, why not?
What did PETA stand for again? Ah yes: "People Eating Tasty Animals".
]cheers[
Mike
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It looks like Arnold's Favorite in Terminator 2 ;)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg589099.html#msg589099 (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.msg589099.html#msg589099)
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UAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! :)) I can´t stop laughing!
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Very good, loco!
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Fascinatingly large bat! :o
Nice Ilyushin gun Loco. :)
Another angle of the nose. V/STOL....
(https://i.postimg.cc/Rh3GdG3G/Another-shot.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Was this thing manned or unmanned?
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Is it one my hounds' snoot?
(https://i.postimg.cc/t471WMbc/snoot.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9D5Fj1rP)
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It's a mock-up/model? Doesn't exist yet?
UAV?
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I think we've even had it before on the quest.
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Reminds me of a story I've read somewhere when a former RAF pilot described how he took his wife (!) in a Vampire T.11 for a ferry flight to Kairo (via Rome) back in the very early 1950s.
If only I could remember where I've read it...
Anyway: Back then his wife was just overwhelmed by how fast they could travel the world. Nowadays the unbelievable part of the story is that the wife was onboard at all, but things must have been different back then.
Using the Jetcraft Executive, the flight would have been somewhat more comfortable and the wife could have prepared a coffee (or tea) on the way ;)
]cheers[
Mike
This struck a chord: I remembered a 1952 movie in which this event happens.
After some research, I found it : "The sound barrier" director David Lean (of "Lawrence of Arabia" fame)
https://www.amazon.fr/The-Sound-Barrier-Import-anglais/dp/B001AOHPJE/ref=sr_1_4?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1549551232&sr=1-4&keywords=the+sound+barrier
The fun note: no luggage was taken, the wife only clothes was her flightsuit, and she complained bitterly when her husband told her the return trip was by boat!
Fotunately the husband met a pal of his who was a BOAC captain, and could take the couple aboard a Comet aircraft bound to London.
I could not find any reference to a specific book :( : but maybe this will help you to find it
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Going back to the trivia...
I think it's a scale model, my eye tells me it could be around 53% of the real scale. ::)
The material with which it is made seems to be from a specialized company.
And looking at those two holes well, they seem to have suffered one DP o_O
But still dont knowing what it is! ;) ;D
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This struck a chord: I remembered a 1952 movie in which this event happens.
After some research, I found it : "The sound barrier" director David Lean (of "Lawrence of Arabia" fame)
Oh yes, memory's coming back now.
It wasn't a book, it was precisely this movie.
I even have it on disk still in quite a good quality.
Time to watch it again one of the coming evenings...
(https://i.postimg.cc/pdQNjr5L/vlcsnap-2019-02-07-16h57m47s176.png) (https://postimg.cc/hJG3WS0k)
]cheers[
Mike
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It's a mock-up/model? Doesn't exist yet?
UAV?
We're talking 2007 - it was built.
Was this thing manned or unmanned?
Intended to be manned. Tethered flight failed.
my eye tells me it could be around 53% of the real scale. ::)
Good eyes.
The general configuration...
(https://i.postimg.cc/GtDct4Rm/img228.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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A swept wing vstol Beech Bonanza?
Ok, got it, but I’ll see if anybody else gets it first
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DuPont DP-1?
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Odd bird. Another thing I haven't seen before :o
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Google image search ... " jet nose 2 air intakes "
https://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/puzzle-vertical-takeoff-180950147/
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/dp-2.htm
It is a duPont DP-1, Great guessing Mexchiwa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=j4b4VzjAMFA
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This shot looks even more like Baldaddy's dog's nose!
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DuPont DP-1?
That's him. :)
Cheers!
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The house is open
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OK - let's shake up this weekend laziness a little.
What's this?
(https://i.postimg.cc/63cT4PGp/SASQuiz68.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mzcT08wv)
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Judging by the graffitti painted on it,
I would say it´s a 1980s New York City Bronx Hip-Hop Beastie Boys Homeboy-airplane. :D
Their first aircraft crashed on the their First record cover!
https://daltonkosshq.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/bb1.jpeg
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Very close - but I'd like a name
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Heinkel He-51s in the background scream Spanish Civil War to me, so I'll go for the Caudron C.601 Aiglon. I can't make out the machine top right in the background?
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I haven't tried to find the one in the background, so can't answer that one.
But you are quite right. Spanish it is, and Caudron Aiglon it is.
Well done, Graeme. Your turn
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Cheers for that Lamehawk. :)
But I'm gonna declare OPEN HOUSE as I'm low on ammunition.
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Hello All,
It's been awhile for me to have something posted, so here I go. :) Looking for the aircraft that is mounted on the launch plane.
(https://i.ibb.co/LRM3ZK3/sasguess45.jpg)
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I'll go Leduc 0.10.
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Well done Graeme … you are correct. :)
Here's a bit on the aircraft:
The Leduc 0.10 was a research aircraft built in France, one of the world's first aircraft to fly powered solely by a ramjet.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Leduc_0.16_Le_Bourget_2007.jpg)
Designed by René Leduc in 1938, it was built at the Breguet Aviation factory after a protracted, semi-secret construction phase kept at arm's length from German occupation authorities, and was finally completed in 1947. The aircraft featured a double-walled fuselage, with the pilot controlling the aircraft from within the inner shell. The circular gap between this and the outer, cylindrical shell provided the inlet for the ramjet.
It could not take off unassisted (ramjets cannot produce thrust at zero airspeed and thus cannot move an aircraft from a standstill) and was therefore intended to be carried aloft by a parasite aircraft mother ship, first attempted by the four-engine AAS 01A & -B German-origin designs, which were replaced later in 1953, by examples of the French-designed Sud-Est Languedoc four-engine airliner, and released at altitude.
Following test flights of the AAS 01/Leduc 0.10 composite, independent unpowered gliding tests began in October 1947. After three such flights, the first powered flight from atop an AAS 01 mother ship was made on 21 April 1949 over Toulouse. Released in a shallow dive at an altitude of 3,050 m (10,010 ft), the engine was tested at half power for twelve minutes, propelling the aircraft to 680 km/h (420 mph).
In subsequent tests, the 0.10 reached a top speed of Mach 0.85 and demonstrated the viability of the ramjet as an aviation powerplant, with a rate of climb of 40 m/s (7,900 ft/min) to 11,000 meters (36,000 ft), exceeding that of the best jet fighters of the time.
Of the two 0.10s originally built, one was destroyed in a crash in 1951 and the other severely damaged in another crash the following year. Both pilots survived with serious injuries.
Graeme, your turn. :)
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Cheers! :)
Always liked the Leduc aircraft, particularly the 0.22 which wouldn't have been outta place in the Thunderbirds TV series.
Next...
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhTP5w40/Eyelid.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I guess someone was passionate about the old films "Buck Rogers" , and "Flash Gordon" ;D
That Leduc looks very much like one of their spaceships.
Look at the TOP part of these two old 1930s film posters...
https://www.pictorialpress.com/films/flash-gordon-conquers-the-universe/
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https://www.pictorialpress.com/timeline/flash-gordon6/
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Is that a jet with closed thrust reverser?
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It is a jet engine to supplement the main engines for take off. When not in use the 'eyelid' closes.
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You'd think something this seemingly strange looking wouldn't be this hard to get. I'm guessing it's military, right? And I'm getting ekranoplan vibes - anything to that?
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I was thinking ekranoplan as well. I've got a vague feeling I've seen it before. Too vague - that miserable memory!
Something watery perhaps (all these wet dreams)
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This should answer your questions...
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQCs1k8N/img234.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/2SNqk0Nt/A42-Landing-With-Ferris-Wheel-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That's what I thought it was at first! Even looked it up, should've gone with my big ol' gut...
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I posted a picture, but did not guess ;)
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I posted a picture, but did not guess ;)
Nevertheless, you know what is is - so over to you. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beriev_A-40
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OK, I hope we haven't had this yet (or at least not this subtype).
(https://i.postimg.cc/T2mR068h/quest190213b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/23kRjgSf)
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Westland Pterodactyl Mk.V...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland-Hill_Pterodactyl
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I thought Pterodactyl was a joke until I read the Wikipedia article. I just love this thread.
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So it goes back to you, Graeme ;D
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Cheers!
I'll make it OPEN HOUSE.
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OK then.
And this is?
(https://i.postimg.cc/PrNFCwQ8/SASQuiz69.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The mighty Pika... :)
(https://i.postimg.cc/V6FytQs5/img235.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CBd6y2qV)
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Hard to contradict all this information! ;D
It is of course the Pika.
Over to you again, Graeme
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Cheers LameHawk. :)
One more OPEN HOUSE.
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Right, another one then
(https://i.postimg.cc/cLcv7jdK/SASQuiz70.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Narushevich Ring Wing EW-555AO from Belarus.
It was easier to find the plane than its name or designation. :D
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Yes, it really is odd :o
But you are right. That's the one.
It can even fly!
So, your turn, Sniper
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This one is not a proper closed-wing aircraft, but still bears some similarity to the previous one. Good luck!
(https://i.postimg.cc/523BcJ0J/quest190215.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Time for some expert questioning. Are these guys French?
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No, but in those days everybody looked French, particularly when they were not on a different continent. Hint: Europe.
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Did this plane actually fly?
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I don't think they all looked French. But very much alike.
The one on the right may have a German look.
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Did this plane actually fly?
No. The engine proved to be too weak according to reports.
I don't think they all looked French. But very much alike.
The one on the right may have a German look.
Now you can guess the country. ;)
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Ok, since no one knows what this is, I'll wrap it up: Ernst Heinkel and Claude Dornierstand before one of their first creations: the HeDo-1. Made from a painters scaffold and some discarded paper tube rolls, pieces were bent to fit as that was easier than calculating necessary lengths. The downward turned wingtips created vortices that improved lift and trapped ground effect, while the upperwardly curved lower outer sections provided a comfy spot for passengers on long flights. Although almost finished before the Wrights first flew, in a grand display of sportsmanship and perfectionism it wasn't actually flown until 1987, when duct tape technology had advanced enough to be used to cover the wing ribs. It was broken up in 1995 - the old fabric covering then repurposed for wallpaper.
Thank you.
The research to supply this answer was difficult but not impossible. I don't know why y'all couldn't get it earlier... 😉
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Inherent amateurism - never found it. Not easy to admit defeat :-[
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Sorry guys, but why didn't you ask for further hints? It was a damn difficult quest.
And I congratulate you, mexchiva, your amusing little story is not that far from the truth.
http://all-aero.com/index.php/56-planes-v-w/18429-wullschleger-peier-triplane
Roll down until July 1913:
https://www.alt-zueri.ch/turicum/verkehr/zivilaviatik/zivilaviatik_zuerichhorn.html
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Question, is it an open round or did mexchiva have the correct answer? Also, has anyone seen or heard from James, he hasn't been around for awhile? Just curious.
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I'm terribly sorry about this quest which turned about to be unresolvable. Consider it as open round-
(Havent't heard about James for quite some time, but I know he flew with the Clowns at the weekend.)
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Sniperton - you should be sorry. You know how we like our challenges to be dumbed-down around here, and hate learning about new aircraft!
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Sorry guys, but why didn't you ask for further hints? It was a damn difficult quest.
And I congratulate you, mexchiva, your amusing little story is not that far from the truth.
http://all-aero.com/index.php/56-planes-v-w/18429-wullschleger-peier-triplane
Roll down until July 1913:
https://www.alt-zueri.ch/turicum/verkehr/zivilaviatik/zivilaviatik_zuerichhorn.html
Thank you for the LINKS Sniperton. There are many cool photos in there I never seen before.
New skin paint-schemes I can try on our airplanes that we already have.
Great Post!
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As we have an open round … here we go :)
(https://i.ibb.co/8NktJHJ/sasguess51.jpg)
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Had to be French. :) A good place to look for choppers is here...
http://www.aviastar.org/index.html
And looking at the French section I'd go with the Dorand GII (G 20) Gyroplane...
http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/dorand_g-2.php
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Well done Graeme !!!
Your turn :)
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Cheers DHumphrey. :)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9RGwdkz/img240.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It's also French...
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Isn't that the plane with that gust stabilization system?
Always thought it'd have gear covers. Anyway... Rey R-1 would be my guess then ("Rey" actually is "Société des Avions François Rey" in that case).
Wiki has it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rey_R.1
]cheers[
Mike
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Spot on Mike. Over to you. :)
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Thanks Graeme.
Here you go, guess this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/rm5gNGqX/quest-2019-02-26.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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The Schwade No.2?
(https://i.postimg.cc/K4SSm1Tr/img245.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That WW1 aircraft has a nice design.
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Spot on Graeme, your turn 8)
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Cheers Mike. :)
Time for another OPEN HOUSE.
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Hello All,
I noticed that the thread was about to drop off the current page … so I'll venture a Quest. :)
(https://i.ibb.co/d0bHRm5/sasguess53.jpg)
Enjoy :)
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Looks like the McCulloch J-2.
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Excellent Graeme … Well done :)
The McCulloch J-2 was a small, two-seat auto-gyro with an enclosed cabin, one of only three designs of this type of aircraft to receive a type certificate in the United States. It was built by McCulloch Aircraft Corporation.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/McCulloch_J-2_Aero_Super_Gyroplane_-_GPN-2000-001904.jpg)
It was designed by Drago Jovanovich and first flew in June 1962. McCulloch acquired the design in 1969 and put it into production, building 83 aircraft over the next three years. They were reported to sell for US$15,900.
The design featured a belt clutch and a transmission which could be engaged to spin the rotor blades to high speed before take-off to produce short takeoff runs. A lever on the rear cockpit wall would select the drive position for the transmission. A single "spin-up lever" on the cockpit left side would then be pressed downward, operating as a collective pitch control to put the blades into flat pitch while simultaneously tensioning the belt clutch. The rotor could be spun to over 500 rpm before takeoff, well above the normal flight range (typically 425 rpm). Release of the spin-up lever would disengage both the clutch and the transmission, while placing the blades into flight pitch. After a very brief takeoff run (typically 25 to 200 feet, depending upon load and winds) adequate flight airspeed would be attained, while the rotor speed decayed to the normal flight range. The rotor was not engine-driven in flight. A strong spring resisted accidental depressing of the spin-up lever while airborne. Dual controls were provided for all functions except the spin-up lever, which was accessible only from the left seat. The aircraft enjoyed nimble handling with light control forces, but suffered from a shallow climb gradient.
Your turn Graeme :)
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Thanks DHumphrey - great info! :)
Something a little faster...
(https://i.postimg.cc/XvHVPc1Z/img261.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Gah.. F-35 again.
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Gah.. F-35 again.
HAHAHAHA … Yes Mike … Yes it is !!! :)
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Must be time for clues when ya see F-35? :)
From the USA.
Way back in 1961. Found it while hunting for the McCulloch above.
Lycoming 0-360-A 180 HP.
2 place.
Crashed on it's first flight (pilot/designer killed) Bishop airfield, Flint, Michigan.
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OK - maybe not.
Check out the Dean Delt-Air 250...
https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1962/1962%20-%200026.html
Open House...
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Holy cow, flying such a thing is pure bravery.
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Time to get out of hibernation.
Not too difficult, is it?
(https://i.postimg.cc/V69Gn2qj/SASQuiz71.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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What a strange coincidence to see this, I just got a new book - waffen-arsenal-special-18-nurflgel-flugzeuge
and that aircraft is shown on page 24 ;D
It is the DFS 40 (originally developed as the Delta V)
(https://www.sharkit.com/sharkit/DFS40/DFS-40%20notice%20page%202.jpg)
The DFS 40 (originally developed as the Delta V) was a tail-less research aircraft designed by Alexander Lippisch in 1937 as a
follow-on to his Delta IV aircraft. In construction, the DFS was closer to a flying wing than its predecessor, and was built as an
alternative to that aircraft.
The DFS 40 was flown for the first time by Heini Dittmar in 1939, shortly before Lippisch departed the DFS (Deutsche Forschungsanstalt für Segelflug
- German Research Institute for Sailplane Flight) to begin work at Messerschmitt. Soon afterwards, without Lippisch there to supervise the project,
the aircraft was crashed due to an error in center of gravity calculations that resulted in it entering a flat spin during flight.
Specifications (DFS 40) - General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 5.1 m (16 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 12 m (39 ft 4 in)
Powerplant: 1 × Argus As 8 4-cyl in-line piston engine, 75 kW (100 hp)
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You should always have a readily available reference library!
You couldn't be more right, so hereby cordially invited to provide the next question
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Here is a good looking sexy airplane
(https://i.imgur.com/1pZ3W2g.jpg)
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I knew I had seen it before, French research aircraft 1950:
Nord 1601
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I knew I had seen it before, French research aircraft 1950:
Nord 1601
That is correct ! :D
You win the 15,000 dollar prize Plus a trip to Disneyland Paris !
(https://media.giphy.com/media/AsFO7vFnl2Xgk/giphy.gif)
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I would probably look equally stupid if I won anything - which I never do.
Then again, I never gamble.
About the same timescale, unfortunately a rather miserable photo
(https://i.postimg.cc/9QsmDRm6/SASQuiz72.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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unfortunately a rather miserable photo
But enough to identify it as the Supermarine 545...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_545
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Very good ;D
You have now won the right to provide the next question
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Cheers for that Lamehawk. :)
Plenty of clues...
(https://i.postimg.cc/bvNfHL5Y/Biplane.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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This is/was the Douglas XA-2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_XA-2
Open House.
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Guess what ?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/7YkTIVEQRJU52/giphy.gif)
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By the puff of smoke from the ignition of the engine start I think it is an international harvest tractor.
We have already this! :P
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First documented F-35 fart?
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Not the first steam driven aircraft in the world
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First documented F-35 fart?
AAAAAHAHAH! :D You got it man!
Your turn for the next mystery plane
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Piece of cake...how about this classic:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kvf8Xfqz/03222019.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Possibly the Sikorsky S-43?
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Absolutely correct. Your turn.
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Thank you vonofterdingen … here's a bit on the aircraft:
The Sikorsky S-43 Baby Clipper was a twin-engine amphibious aircraft manufactured in United States during the 1930s by the American firm Sikorsky Aircraft.
(http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/s43_mishatyukin.jpg)
The S-43 first flew in 1935, and was a smaller version of the Sikorsky S-42 "Clipper". It accommodated between 18 and 25 passengers, with a separate two-crew forward cockpit. The S-43 was known as the "Baby Clipper" in airline service.
The S-43 was used primarily by Pan American World Airways for flights to Cuba and within Latin America. Inter-Island Airways of Hawaii (Inter-Island changed its name to Hawaiian Airlines in 1941) was the launch customer for the S-43. Inter-Island operated four S-43's to ferry Pan-Am Clipper passengers and local residents from Honolulu throughout the Hawaiian Islands. Inter-Island sold its only twin-tail version to KLM.
Five aircraft were acquired by the U.S. Army Air Corps in 1937 under the designation OA-8 and were used for transport of freight and passengers. 17 aircraft were procured by the U.S. Navy between 1937 and 1939 as the JRS-1, two of which served the U.S. Marine Corps. One JRS survived in service at the end of 1941.
The Smithsonian National Air & Space Museum's Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center in Virginia has now put a Sikorsky JRS-1 on display. This aircraft was on duty at Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941.
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Here's the new quest … enjoy :)
(https://i.ibb.co/mDChFyS/sasguess57.jpg)
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This is Jack Northrop's US patent Number 1,929,255 which in the flesh was the Avion Experimental No.1.
(https://i.postimg.cc/tg5VPLBP/JN.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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P-38 style ;D
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Spot on Graeme … your turn :)
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Cheers mate. :)
(https://i.postimg.cc/0Q849ztm/1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Fokker T.VIII?
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Fokker T.VIII?
Sure is. It's the T.8-L which was ordered by the Finnish but before it could be delivered was taken over by the Luftwaffe.
Over to you mexichiwa. :)
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Open house
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(https://i.imgur.com/20Cj5vT.jpg)
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It looks like a Curtiss Jenny … with those Russian markings, she's very interesting. :)
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It looks like a Curtiss Jenny … with those Russian markings, she's very interesting. :)
Your correct! It is the Classic Jenny, BUT its not Russian.
It is the First ever "roundel insignia" used by the United States of America - a Red Star ! ;)
- https://www.deviantart.com/maxhitman/art/USA-Air-Force-Roundels-1915-Today-593131823
" Eight JN-3s equipped the 1st Aero Squadron when Captain Foulois led it into Mexico in March 1916 as part
of Brig. Gen. John J. Pershing’s punitive expedition against Pancho Villa. In contrast to the agile fighters then
in combat over Europe, the JN-3’s role was primarily observation and communication.
However, the squadron did conduct some experiments in bombardment and the use of machine guns.
The JN-3s were still underpowered and unable to climb over Mexico’s Sierra Madres.
Due to various mishaps and frustrations over aircraft, logistics and other problems, Foulois left the 1st Aero in
September 1916. "
- More interesting history about this airplane here - https://www.historynet.com/genesis-of-the-jenny.htm
Your turn DHumphrey
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Thanks Max … read the article you provided about that Jenny, she went after Pancho Villa …. awesome !!! :)
I declare "Open Round" :)
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May I take up the baton ?
Whats this ?
(https://i.postimg.cc/HLnKp1FK/Whats-this.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DWV5gHvd)
................definitely not Australian.......
Cheers
Alfie
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Why not Australian. Clearly meant for "down under" as well as "up here"
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May I take up the baton ?
Whats this ?
Cheers
Alfie
Confused ;D
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Why not Australian. Clearly meant for "down under" as well as "up here"
:D
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I have seen it before, but since memory usually doesn't kick in I can't remember where.
In fact I have the picture in a folder called "funny pictures".
Definitely created by someone who likes to play it safe
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Definitely created by someone who likes to play it safe
:D
Couple of clues.....
We're in Germany 1913
It's not so much flown as an aeroplane, more as a form of entertainment 8)
Cheers
Alfie
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This is indeed one of a kind aircraft.
I cannot find it anywhere on the internet or in books :D Perhaps I should look into "Circus books".
It might be something invented by that comedian team "Monty Python Flying Circus" :D I love those old tv shows.
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Max ... try the barn storming pages ... can't search myself not at home at the moment. :)
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Oooooo you're so close !
This aeroplane is a circus performer 8)
Cheers
Alfie
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:D It is CRAZY !
The first purpose-designed airplane for inverted flight was probably a Grade monoplane which flew first in
the spring of 1914.The Grade Eindecker had landing gear on top and bottom.
Some named it the "Tweer monoplane", but it was actually built by the Grade aircraft factory right after the inverted
flying craze was started by Pegoud in 1913.
Gustav Tweer was an aerobatics pilot (one of many at this time), who was famous for diving his airplane almost
into the ground at flight shows.
Tweer monoplane - Германия - 1914
THE LATEST IDEA FOR LOOPING THE LOOP. - Pilot Gustav Tweer has been making trial flights on the above machine,
constructed so that he can land upside down if necessary, having, as is seen, chassis and wheels both above and
below the plaaes. He has been flying this machine at Bork.
--- http://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Arts/Art4713.htm
(http://flyingmachines.ru/Images7/Flight/1914/399-1.jpg)
--- More here (in German) -- https://www.noz.de/lokales/osnabrueck/artikel/470826/april-1914-osnabrucker-flieger-begeistert-die-nation
BUT
Monty Python is still funny too ! :))
(https://media.giphy.com/media/HRp2zwNN9EtgY/giphy.gif)
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Bingo !
Well done Max....not an easy one to find ;)
Genuine lunacy here...imagine landing the Grade inverted......hanging from the straps, with your head skimming the ground o_O
Your turn now.....I hand the baton to you :)
Cheers
Alfie
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Thanks Alfie, it did take awhile to discover that last aircraft type. It is very unique.
Here is an easy one...
(https://i.imgur.com/Dk6FT6V.jpg)
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ROLAND CII
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ROLAND CII
That is Correct ! ]cheers[
I think it was you who also painted the Skin-template for our airplane version (DBW-1916) ;) Fantastic skin-art!
Your Turn Stiv_069
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Thanks Max.
That's not a hard question, who is this?
(https://i.postimg.cc/zXpF6RZT/568787.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F7dSJzKK)
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I believe its the Farman F.120 :)
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close but not him.
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Farman F.123...
https://www.aviafrance.com/aviafrance1.php?ID=6497&ID_CONSTRUCTEUR=501&ANNEE=0&ID_MISSION=0&MOTCLEF=
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Farman F.123...
https://www.aviafrance.com/aviafrance1.php?ID=6497&ID_CONSTRUCTEUR=501&ANNEE=0&ID_MISSION=0&MOTCLEF=
Yes.
Your turn is graham
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Cheers!
(https://i.postimg.cc/xT0bZCFC/Cockpit.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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SIPA S.200, camoed as a little mini Vampire?
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Certainly is. :)
On the port side is famed test/race pilot Darryl Greenamyer.
Over to you mexchiwa.
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Open house
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Here is a strange airplane.
(https://i.imgur.com/l3l7qfg.jpg)
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According to Shumaker's site - it's a Sloane 4.
Never heard of it.
https://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Shumaker/13643.htm
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Great Graeme ! You are correct!
Its a very freaky looking machine.
Kind of reminds me of that old tv cartoon...
(https://media.giphy.com/media/zuilEuXceJCI8/giphy.gif)
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I believe the small additional aerofoils were added for stability and extra lift for use on the nascent air-mail routes.
One wouldn't want to try to roll that thing!
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Cheers Max!
Another from WWI...
(https://i.postimg.cc/YShjRZmM/img291.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I believe the small additional aerofoils were added for stability and extra lift for use on the nascent air-mail routes.
One wouldn't want to try to roll that thing!
Hmmm … interesting, I thought they were a type of alerion.
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That looks familiar, I think we have this airplane flying in the DBW-1916
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I believe the small additional aerofoils were added for stability and extra lift for use on the nascent air-mail routes.
One wouldn't want to try to roll that thing!
Hmmm … interesting, I thought they were a type of alerion.
ah; you are probably right, on further viewing I notice no aileron on main planes and control wires on the extensions. I was thinking of the mail-modified DH series.
Apologies for misinformation!
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That looks familiar.
I don't have much on this machine Max.
German.
1918.
Described as the world's first twin-engine single seat fighter biplane.
On a ground test an engine ripped from the framework and destroyed the aircraft.
Rudolf Geringer designed it.
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Ok, for a moment it looked like a French Caudron G.4 / G.IV,
but since you say its German, I have to search some more.
Rudolph Gehringer was hired as Pfalz's chief engineer
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Probably time to end this one. I could find no designation for it other than being a twin-engine fighter design from Hanseatische Flugzeug-Werke (Caspar).
OPEN HOUSE.
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-hanseatische-flugzeug-werke-caspar-1918-nowarra-photo-89534217.html
(https://i.postimg.cc/x8pwxBsm/hanseatische-flugzeug-werke-caspar-1918-nowarra-photo-F5-JHPH.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Jn5Dk5pv/Caspar.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hello All,
Its been awhile since we had a Quest … try this one. :)
(https://i.ibb.co/VJsNdXL/sasguess59.jpg)
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By the wings and landing gear i search in google "Junkers 4 blades" :-[
There appeared the Ju-49 designed to investigate high-altitude flight and the techniques of cabin pressurization.
google turn? :o
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Your spot on locopistion … it is the Junkers Ju-49. :)
The Junkers Ju-49 was a German aircraft designed to investigate high-altitude flight and the techniques of cabin pressurization. It was the world's second working pressurized aircraft, following the Engineering Division USD-9A which first flew in the United States in 1921. By 1935, it was flying regularly to around 12,500 m (41,000 ft).
(http://www.unicraft.biz/germ/ju49/ju49-box.jpg)
The Junkers Ju 49 was developed entirely to investigate techniques for flight at high altitude. To this end, it had a specially developed engine and the first pressurized cabin in a German aircraft. The engine was the Junkers L88a, which combined two six-cylinder inline L8 motors into an upright V-12 and had a two-stage supercharger plus intercooler to sustain power at high altitudes. It produced 522 kW (700 hp) at about 5,800 m (19,000 ft). This engine drove a large four-blade propeller. The pressure cabin held the two crew. The original intention was for operation at about 6,000 m (20,000 ft).
Only one Ju 49 was built, carrying the civil registration D2688 and later (when German civil registrations changed from numbers to letters) D-UBAZ. It ended its life at the German research center (Deutsche Versuchsanstalt fur Luftfahrt) and crashed in October 1937.
Your turn locopistion, well done. :)
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Tanks DHumprey! ;D
go with one super easy to trey to realive the trivia! ;)
guess this!
(https://i.postimg.cc/76HfQhWz/guess194.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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No props?
Chase XCG-20?
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Graeme … I think your on to something there :)
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Yep Graeme! ;D
you turn now!
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Cheers Loco!
(https://i.postimg.cc/bJGVMy73/SOH.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Polish.
First flight was just over two weeks ago.
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FLARIS LAR 1
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Welcome back James … its been awhile :)
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That's the one. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BKXQWgWavk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BKXQWgWavk)
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Thanks for the welcome back.
Here you go gents:
(https://i.postimg.cc/sg31V7d5/5-A0-F5098-C14-D-41-D6-BC91-4-D1435351-E7-F.jpg)
Have fun, and no cheating....
James
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Cheating is cheating yourself.
You won't learn anything from that.
And welcome back from me too 😀
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Hi James, welcome back, I hope you're fine and I see you're ready to drive us mad again. ;D
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Thank you both.
I aim to displease... :D
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The Short Cockle...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Cockle
(https://i.postimg.cc/zXq3yYK7/img302.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Congrats, Graeme, the engines are so tiny that I believed they were belt-driven by an engine in the fuselage. ]salut[
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It was twin engined. The engines were mounted in the wing with extension shafts to drive the props.
Your turn Graeme
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Cheers!
Time for someone else to have a go. Open House.
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Do any of you gents know what this is ?
(https://i.postimg.cc/C5kxsLnw/Whatisthis3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSYPzPR5)
Cheers
Alfie
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It's the Lanzi-Billard "Fleche" from 1910.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/34633/34633-h/34633-h.htm#page232
See also the text below fig. 136.
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Nope
Excellent resource sniperton btw :P
Apparently L'A B C De l'Aviation by Louis Gastine is still in print....I shall order a copy forthwith ;D
Cheers
Alfie
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Nope
You made me curious :D
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You made me curious :D
Marvelous !
Hmmm... it's French, it's from 1911 and it's a "1st"....oh and the photo bottom right is very important
Cheers
Alfie
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the photo bottom right is very important
Honestly, I can't see anything telling on it...
Anyway, some better photos:
http://www.precurseursaviation.com/marcay.htm
https://germo43.skyrock.com/3142035472-MARCAY-MOONEN.html
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Yep you got her !
Apologies for the photo....it's scanned from a very old book :D....the lower photo shows her wings unfolded
A De Marcay-Moonen....described as " The first practicable aeroplane with folding wings"...
Nice one sniperton....over to you :)
Cheers
Alfie
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Thanks, but I have nothing in the attic, so it's open house.
"The first practicable aeroplane with folding wings"...
Funny, I came to the Fleche because this site (erroneously) claimed it a folding wing aircraft: http://www.wright-brothers.org/History_Wing/Aviations_Attic/UFOs/UFOs.htm
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Let’s torture you guys more then!
(https://i.postimg.cc/XYq5x6zg/D30-F032-D-507-A-46-E0-A8-F0-86-FA54350-E0-A.jpg)
Good luck.
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Google has it, just saying.
But I have to admit I didn't know it from memory either.
Even though it has it's origin in my native town.
]cheers[
Mike
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Can't read German - but I'm pretty sure it's this machine...
(https://i.postimg.cc/NFdF7P1V/img303.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Never seen that airplane before.
Looks like a German Grumman-Goose . I like the diferent tail design on it.
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Absolutely right Graeme.
You’re up.
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Open House.
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Hmmmm, should I? Nah, I’ll let someone else go.
Looks like it’s up to me to keep this thread alive.
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Gm0WJ9cW/93-D4-A151-33-F6-4-E46-BBB8-2612-FB01-E3-CD.jpg)
Good Luck.
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The Benson B-12 Skymat.
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Not the Legchopper 1000?
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Correct again Graeme
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(https://i.postimg.cc/28SzPMf2/One.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Its... its.... a human ice-cream cone :D
(https://media.giphy.com/media/QjrrSbYaqgi1q/giphy.gif)
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I’m not sure why but something is telling me that it comes from Austria-Hungary.
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I can't even tell what type of object it is :-[
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OK.
It's French.
WWI.
He's in a gunner's position in front of an engine/prop. This is the starboard side.
It's a Trimotor.
Built, flown and crashed. :)
Found it here...
http://airwar.ru/
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OK.
It's French.
WWI.
He's in a gunner's position in front of an engine/prop. This is the starboard side.
It's a Trimotor.
Built, flown and crashed. :)
Found it here...
http://airwar.ru/
Those WW1 aviators were crazy. Built, flown and crashed ! LOL
What will they think up next ?! :D
Every crazy idea was used. Once there was a pilot who used a ships "anchor" so he could fly over the enemy´s
airplane and grab it, or do damage to it :D and yet another crazy pilot put a cannon on his wood airplane to shoot
at the enemy.
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Time to shut this one down and move on I think.
The NIEPCE et FETTERER DNF
From here...
http://airwar.ru/enc/bww1/dnf.html
(https://i.postimg.cc/tTmLLpjk/EXT680TC.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Shame on us, but this bizarre airplane would have been hard enough to find even if we had the full photo.
Anyway, I wonder how the gunners were meant to operate in their position. A moustache trainer and a less formal cap were highly needed I guess ;D
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WOW! 8) That is cool.
You have discovered a most unique aircraft. I like its design.
Sort of "futuristic" and "Buck Rogers spaceship" in style ;D
You never seize to amaze me. Thanks!
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+1
I've never seen that aircraft before.......
From your first photo I thought it might be a nacelle from an airship
In profile they have a dreadnought's prow 8)
A little more elevation on the engines and it could be a flying boat :D
DNF.... :))
(https://i.postimg.cc/DzGN61X2/dnf-i.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Good choice Graeme
Cheers
Alfie
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It's so silent here suddenly... looks like the quest has stalled.
Time to breathe life into it again.
Guess this:
(https://i.ibb.co/B4y01pZ/quest-2019-05-08.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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You are right. Sometimes time is in short supply
I think it is a General Aviation PJ-1 Arcturus
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Correct LameHawk, that's one of the many names this kite was sailing under.
It's also known as "Fokker Aircraft Corporation of America FLB" ("flying life boat").
Your turn!
]cheers[
Mike
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Thank you
Exact name wanted for this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/MTpPYjh4/SASQuiz73.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Is it by chance: The de Havilland D.H.82B Queen Bee ?
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Not by chance. It most certainly is!
Early UAV.
Almost 500 built.
So - over to you ;D
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Thank you LameHawk :)
This one should be easy … it's an O'de to Max-The-Hitman's addition to our sim. :)
(https://i.ibb.co/c60rDh9/sasguess55.jpg)
As this one is very easy … exact name is required. :)
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Thank you LameHawk :)
This one should be easy … it's an O'de to Max-The-Hitman's addition to our sim. :)
Nope, I never did that. I think it was Cirx who made the "jet-man" 3d-model for the IL2-1946.
The REAL jet-man was invented by Yves Rossy. Exact name, I don´t know. :-[
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It has no exact designation. Rossy refers to the aircraft as Jetman
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Flying-Homo-Sapien :D
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Max got it right ;D
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Actually it does have a name. :)
The Gryphon Single-Man Flying Wing
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/x2sT9KoII_M/maxresdefault.jpg)
The Gryphon Single-Man Flying Wing is a parachute system whose Delta wing has micro-jet engines on board that can carry a paratrooper 110 miles on a half gallon of jet fuel. The wing has aileron and flap-like control surfaces along its trailing edge, and around 2 liters (0.5USgal) of jet fuel housed in flexible containers in its leading edge. The surfaces would be controlled by the parachutist using handles linked to servomechanisms. A parachutist could jump from up to 33,000ft using the system, with oxygen equipment and thermal clothing. On reaching an altitude of 3,000-5,000ft, the parachute is opened and the wing lowered on a cord to hang several meters below the user.
A military version is also being evaluated.
(http://www.hi-id.com/atcl/0606/gryphon%20single%20man%20flying%20wing.gif)
(https://img.newatlas.com/gryphonwingedsuit.png?auto=format%2Ccompress&fit=max&h=670&q=60&w=1000&s=c163ab9d5a971ac852247415e217964c)
Open House :)
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Guess an easy one!
(https://i.postimg.cc/8zm0V7gN/guess135.png) (https://postimages.org/)
cheers!
;D
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]idea[ Lockheed Martin F-35 prototype ! (photo taken near hangars in secret air base AREA-51)
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The one with the large unducted fan
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Lock me in for the Martin Baker MB-3...
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I don´t know about that.
I have found the real photo. The previous photograph was re-touched by the secret service to hide the real airplane. ;)
(https://i.imgur.com/aPPatad.png)
:D
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Ha! Very good :P
There is just that little triangular thing that holds the tail up
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I agree with Max, who found the second picture that I was going to put as a help. ;D
But to avoid falling into contradictions with the rules of the trivia I'll have to give it to Graeme.
Wonderfull photo search Max! ;)
Graeme your turn! ]salut[
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I don´t know about that.
I have found the real photo.
Now that, is impressive. Dunno why I thought it was the MB.3 last night.
I'd like to hand control over to you, Max. :)
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(Congrats to all involved, I enjoyed it very much. It was far not that easy as announced. As I see Graeme handles over the well-earned baton to Max who named the F-35 which is always a winner here ;) )
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No, no,
Graeme is the winner! ]hello2[
I think he guessed correct the mystery airplane, he should go next.
I just did that post with the F-35 as a joke. You guys know me, I am always joking around. My life recently has been
so sad , that I try to have a few moments in my day by doing something to make everyone around me to be happy.
As the great Charlie Chaplin once said, " A day without laughter, is a day wasted in life". So I try to keep that thought
in my mind always.
Graeme go next good friend! ]cheers[
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Hello Max.
I'm sorry to read that life hasn't been kind to you lately - I do hope things improve. Like yourself I play ID sites/threads like this purely for fun and the knowledge gained.
I am particularly impressed with how you transposed the F-35 into the original image - and even including water and reflection onto it with the starboard wheel....
See what you can do with this. :)
Cheers!
(https://i.postimg.cc/02Xks4Xh/EXT698TC.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Kinds looks like a Ki-84 …
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Looks Like a Ryan FR-1 Fireball without the jet engine and a corn cob radial very powerful for the double four bladed propeller :o
And is british.
Bristol centaurus engine?
Sea fury and firebrand period?
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Pretty sure it's got British roundels on the side
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Blackburn B.48? But it has a four blade prop, and the wing planform looks different...
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It is British.
Look very carefully at the "prop".
Not a Fury, Firebrand or a Firecrest, but it is from that period.
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Are all the blades meeting at 90deg? Jet with a dummy prop? (Still no clue what it would be)
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The closest thing I found is the Westland W.34 prototype of Westland Wyvern :-|
It differs from this by having no dihedral in the stabilizer and the Rolls royce Eagle H-block 22 pistons engine instead of the Armstrong Siddeley Python from the Wyvern :o
If it is what I risk, it looks better in that photo than in reality. ;D
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Westland W.34 prototype
According to Flight - that's what it is. :)
The contra-props are in alignment.
Over to you Loco. :)
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Tanks Graeme! :D
Sorry for the delay ... my country is in economic crisis and I have to work twice as hard to get the same ... ::(
Guess this! It is easy, although it does not seem at first look. ;)
(https://i.postimg.cc/g26QcrxS/guess175.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Westland W.34 prototype
According to Flight - that's what it is. :)
The contra-props are in alignment.
Over to you Loco. :)
Not that I don't believe you, but please reveal your pictorial sources. These planes look quite different to my eyes, the wings are OK, but but the engine is, hmm...
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Sure. :)
I have a one-on-one ID challenge with a guy from the UK who delves deeply into the Flight online site and he showed me this photo last week. I've sent him a message for more details - and I'll get back to you...
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Westland W.34 prototype
According to Flight - that's what it is. :)
The contra-props are in alignment.
Over to you Loco. :)
Not that I don't believe you, but please reveal your pictorial sources. These planes look quite different to my eyes, the wings are OK, but but the engine is, hmm...
Maybe I could be of some help...
Look at this webpage and the first photo posted on it (on top).
---- http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2017/10/21/the-westland-wyvern-a-mighty-monster/
" - TS371, the first Wyvern prototype with a Rolls Royce Eagle engine. The photo was taken in December 1946 before its first flight. It has a bare metal colour scheme"
I believe it is the same photo as Graeme posted , but from a side view - Notice the contra-rotating props are in aligment and
the aircraft is placed in a concret circle.
If the photo was taken from behind the airplane, it would look as if it had only one set of props.
So Here is the same airplane photo original , but in better resolution...
- https://www.agefotostock.com/age/en/Stock-Images/Rights-Managed/MEV-10992780
]cheers[
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Cheers Max. :)
Up above - Loco's twin looks like the Douglas B-23 Dragon?
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Cheers Max. :)
Up above - Loco's twin looks like the Douglas B-23 Dragon?
Cheers Dude!
A Douglas B-23 Dragon? Perhaps.
To me it looks like a miniature B-17 viewed from the top.
I believe it is actually a B-18 Bolo
The same photo (viewed from the top) can be seen here...
- http://weric.info/b-18-bolo-bomber/
- http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&t=14428&start=373&finish=1&printertopic=1
- https://www.aircraftinformation.info/gallery_bombers_piston.htm
(https://www.aircraftinformation.info/Images/B-18_01.jpg)
]thumbsup[
The Douglas B-18 Bolo is an American medium bomber which served with the United States Army Air Corps and
the Royal Canadian Air Force (as the Digby) during the late 1930s and early 1940s.
The Bolo was built by the Douglas Aircraft Company, based on its DC-2, and was developed to replace the Martin B-10.
By 1940, it was considered to be underpowered, to have inadequate defensive armament, and to carry too small a bomb load.
Many were destroyed during the attacks on Pearl Harbor and the Philippines in December 1941.
In 1942, the surviving B-18s were relegated to antisubmarine, transport duty, and training.
A B-18 was one of the first American aircraft to sink a German U-boat, U-654 on 22 August 1942 in the Caribbean.
First flight - April 1935
Introduction - 1936
Number built - 350
Nicknames - USA "Bolo" - Canada " Digby"
Bolos and Digbys sank an additional two submarines during the course of the war.
RCAF Eastern Air Command (EAC) Digbys carried out 11 attacks on U-boats.
U-520 was confirmed sunk by Flying Officer F. Raymes' crew of No. 10 (BR) Squadron, on 30 October 1942.
east of Newfoundland. However, the antisubmarine role was relatively short-lived, and the Bolos were superseded
in this role in 1943 by Consolidated B-24 Liberators.
(https://i.imgur.com/XKFNf88.jpg)
After the war, some of the Douglas Digbys were converted for ladies flight training, which were
also equipped with a small table and chairs in the rear of the aircraft just below the glass
cupola, and had a set of tea cups for "Tea time". :D (this part is totally fictional)
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Siperton: I was not sure either, because if it were the wyvern you would have to see the great escape of the turboprop on one side of the fuselage and the elevator has positive dihedral and two small vertical fins ... :-[
I found it through the wikipedia article :P where he cites the first prototype, with the eagle engine. :o
Max...Yes! ;D
As always you are the master of the search for the exact image!
This time he found the photo of the original decoy... the Douglas B-18 Bolo ;)
Honestly; I expected you to find the undercover photo. :-|
Where you clearely see it's a breand new version F-35P... ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/bvMVxTBc/f35-b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d729v8F4)
but hey, we'll give it to you for valid. ;)
Your turn Max!
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AAAAHAHAH! That sneaky F-35 is always in a stealthy diguise mode :D
Great photo Locopiston! I am saving that for my collection.
Ok folks,
now keep your mind on THE AIRPLANE in this next photo "Guess that Airplane" !
The girl does not count, just look at the lovely classic airplane.
(https://i.imgur.com/M899JUD.jpg)
]sunny[ Extra bonus points if you can guess the exact version of the aircraft
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I think I understood everything perfect ...
Her full name is Katherine Elizabeth "Kate" Boyer; is 5 '6 "(1.68 m) and is from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
(https://i.postimg.cc/zBx7HJrM/Kate.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Guess the "No step" sign doesn't count if you lie on it
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Thanks, Max!
If the photo was taken from behind the airplane, it would look as if it had only one set of props.
- https://www.agefotostock.com/age/en/Stock-Images/Rights-Managed/MEV-10992780
Yep, it is the illusion due to shortening that makes the nose appear more bulky as if it were housing a radial engine... :D
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Not that I don't believe you, but please reveal your pictorial sources. These planes look quite different to my eyes, the wings are OK, but but the engine is, hmm...
My friend got back to me.
See here...
https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1947/1947%20-%201322.html?search=prototype
(https://i.postimg.cc/vH404PfM/Capture.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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I think I understood everything perfect ...
Her full name is Katherine Elizabeth "Kate" Boyer; is 5 '6 "(1.68 m) and is from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Yes indeed, she is a HOT Cookie :-*
but
What is the Airplane she is on?
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B-25J?
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Maybe even this particular bird: PBJ1
(https://i.postimg.cc/hP8T5Qg9/PBJ1-960-640.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Theoretically it is the PBJ-1J with "kate" on top corresponding to the march warbirdpin up girls of 2019 calendar...
The PBJ-1Js that I have found have the nose of gunship.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kGfcJH69/PbJ-1J.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
What makes me doubt is that this has a glass nose as if it were actually a B-25J-NC painted for that purpose.
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Three great answers from three great aviation fans! ]hello2[
This is the B25-PBJ-1J and it is a glass nose version as seen by the picture posted by Lamehawk.
-It is this aircraft... https://www.cafsocal.com/our-aircrafts/our-aircraft-and-history/north-american-pbj/
Here is the full image has seen in the new 2019 "Warbird Pin-Up Girls" Calendar
(https://i.imgur.com/usPYA2X.jpg)
This is a dificult decision to pick just one winner, even tho you 3 all have guessed the mystery airplane,
I will pass the next post to Lamehawk, if that is ok with guys.
Cheers
MAX
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Lamehawk turn! ]salut[
Supergood to me! ;D
i keep the extra bonus for exact name on plane and girl? o_O
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Thank you for the honour :)
But I'll be ungrateful enough to present a really hard one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/t4V2H5mJ/SASQuiz74.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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...
I keep the extra bonus for exact name on plane and girl? o_O
Sure thing good buddy 8)
Lamehawk, that is a dificult aircraft to track down.
I will begin looking at 1930s racer aircraft. It might be in that category
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Time is basically correct.
But it is not a racer
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Sure thing good buddy 8)
Thank God!
(https://i.postimg.cc/CLx0qmx5/gracias-a-dios.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Hard fly to guess
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Not easy. In fact, extremely difficult. :-X
Note the paint scheme
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mybe like this :-[
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMy9BmKf/monoplane30.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Radial engine...
Low wing no dihedral...
three blades propeller...
golden age period...
2 seats??? o_O
Close thing i found is polikarpov i_180 :-|
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Not Russian.
I don't know, but I think your colouring would be right
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Not easy. In fact, extremely difficult. :-X
This turned my attention to AviaQuiz - I use to play, but it just became too difficult.
Apparently it's the Spanish Società Costruzioni Aeronautiche Guidonia AQV.
I'm not even sure if Mel got the name right...
https://dauntless-software.com/aviaquiz/quizArchive.asp?id=539
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Indeed, that's the one. ;D
Interesting to see that no one there found it.
The little there is about the rather obscure plane: https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/aqv-and-italian-high-altitude-projects.11932/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/aqv-and-italian-high-altitude-projects.11932/)
Just one thing, it's Italian. Not Spanish.
Your turn, Graeme
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Dear oh dear - I can't even get the nationality right. :(
Cheers for the link LameHawk - certainly a rare machine. :)
Not so rare...
(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZpLGx0g/Another-Nose.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Looks lika and unarmed prototype of Savoia Marchetti SM.89... But i dont think :-[
Maybe have 4 engines?
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Not Italian.
Twin engine.
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Not a G3M, is it?
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A Lockheed L.10 Electra ?
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It's British...
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Is it pre-war, and does it have a pitot tube in the upper nose?
Wellington?
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does it have a pitot tube in the upper nose?
I believe that's a long dorsal aerial.
Wellington?
Indeed. :) Vickers B.9/32 Type 271 Wellington prototype K4049...
(https://i.postimg.cc/15db2fgV/Scan0007.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Yay! I knew if I kept throwing planes up, something would stick... open house.
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Hello loyal patrons of the quest, I’ve returned but for a brief moment. I have recently become unemployed so I have a bit of free time.
Try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/kX8h506C/image.jpg)
Good luck!
James
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I hope your employment issues get sorted James. :(
I found the missing caption from the left of your photo...
(https://i.postimg.cc/SssLg15M/Scan0014.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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A good coffee table book huh?
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A good coffee table book huh?
I think it works better as a coffee table.
Not featured in it (as is many others) is this machine...
(https://i.postimg.cc/CMzW4jqX/EXT703TC.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Klemm plane?
or mybe an F-35?
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Hi Loco.
Not from Klemm - not German.
Not from Lockheed Martin - not from the US of A.
Wiki says first flight was in 1934, designed as a bomber/torpedo bomber and only one built.
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Believe it's either British or French
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I'd agree with the british guess.
(https://i.postimg.cc/PrL1NwHh/856-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Tp6K4hhH)
]cheers[
Mike
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Well done Mike. ]thumleft[
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Didn't do anything (yet) :P
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Looks like it's time for a new quest.
Guess the plane:
(https://i.postimg.cc/7Zm3zLRd/fun.jpg)
(no kidding)
]cheers[
Mike
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F-35?
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F-35?
Inevitable, isn't it?
Indeed, that's an F-35 - to be precise, it's the extra radar reflector which is used to make the plane visible for ATC:
(https://i.imgur.com/SMHglX0.jpg)
Your turn 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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(https://www.mediafire.com/view/3tgb3ufv44h5lu1/sas.jpg)
What is this plane?
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https://www.mediafire.com/view/3tgb3ufv44h5lu1/sas.jpg
What is this plane?
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Yak-38
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taking into account that the previous trivia was correctly solved but never confirmed and the fateful fact that our beloved trivia is about to descend to the second page of "the lounge" I propose this double trivia to relive it. ;D
Guess this 2 planes! (exact name of both) ;)
(https://i.postimg.cc/mDmzY4b2/guess617.png) (https://postimg.cc/YGmC7JGJ)
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Hello Loco!
Both are first prototypes. Top photo is the the Hawker Tornado and the lower is the Caproni Vizzola F.6M with the original DB 605 engine. Interesting comparison as they do look similar in some ways. :)
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Goood Graeme!
Close, but there is one that does not have the exact name (as I have it) ;)
I had it as Caproni Vizzola F-4 ... but researching your data I realize that your denomination is correct!
You turn!
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Cheers Loco!
(https://i.postimg.cc/FzTBwj10/A-Verty-Long-Nose.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Can be nothing but Supermarine Swift F.7
https://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/swift/survivor.php?id=258 (https://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/swift/survivor.php?id=258)
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Certainly is mate. :)
Over to you.
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Maybe not the best quality photo
(https://i.postimg.cc/SNX8x3c9/SASQuiz75.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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ANBO VIII?
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/aww2/anbo8.html
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Absolutely correct.
Your turn again, Graeme
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Cheers - but I think it's time for an OPEN HOUSE.
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Hello beautiful people! I’ve returned for but a brief moment.
Try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/rFHvZzNt/92417704-C2-D2-471-D-AC12-9-F501-EA21752.jpg)
James
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Captured Global Hawk?
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F-35 ?
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Tend to think both suggestions are wrong.
Although I'm not sure this bird looks twin-engined
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I assure you Lame, it has two engines.
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The Carden-Baynes Bee...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carden-Baynes_Bee
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Right you are Graeme.
Your turn.
James
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Cheers James.
(https://i.postimg.cc/htYkkPSZ/Scan0043.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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DH 67/ Gloster Survey?
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That's the one!
Over to you...
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Gotta take a pass - open house
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If you gentlemen got nothing else to do, here is a nice little one (BTW, are there any gentlewomen sheltering in this forum? - just wondering)
(https://i.postimg.cc/MHRwfJf1/SASQuiz77.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It looks like a half-scale model of avro anson with the engines of its competitor the havilan dragon rapide also at scale ... the gypsy minor ...
Anyway, I think it's from some country that make cookies with a lot of butter... :-|
I think here more than anywhere else, have more chances of finding someone who identifies sexually as a atack helicopter, than the possibilities of finding a gentlewoman... ;D
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Don't know about cookies - but the beer is good
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but the beer is good
German?
Gotha Go.150?
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A small military trainer, originally intended as a civilian aircraft.
Oh yes. You are absolutely right, Graeme.
Your turn :)
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Cheers!
The beer continues to flow....
(https://i.postimg.cc/509GjCxZ/Front.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Let 410?
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Nord 262?
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I was following on from LameHawk with the beer.
This too is German...
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Do-131 mockup?
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Not from Dornier, Loco.
Here's the full photo...
(https://i.postimg.cc/gjt5j1P9/Scan0056.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hamburger Flugzeugbau litle version of transall?!?!?!?! :-|
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Hamburger Flugzeugbau litle version of transall?!?!?!?! :-|
Does look a little like a miniature Transall. MTO weight was predicted to be 6800 kg...
(https://i.postimg.cc/Njv6X5K0/Scan0060.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Time to shut this one down.
Lots of versions planned - but it all came to nought...
https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1977/1977%20-%202639.html?search=Air%20Metal
OPEN HOUSE.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kvv027TC/Scan0061.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Damn! ::(
just that I was going to put on that!
It is the problem of living in the time zone contrary to the rest of the universe :-[
I thought that air metal was this
https://youtu.be/dUQJZOcvwEU
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-withdrawn image of an F35-
No one gets slapped this time for this answer. :))
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This plane was already posted thousands of times in this thread !!!!! o_O
It's a Yakovlev yak-141 Freestyle, tuning by Chip Foose. ;)
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I'm going to leave this to SAS~Storebror :)
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Oh what the shit? I just scrolled up and saw Mike recently posted it.. Ah, disregard my post. Still open round. I don't keep tabs on this Thread.
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Try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/gjhKTQWF/78-B3-AD47-601-A-47-CD-AA68-CFFF8-CACB525.jpg)
Cheers!
James
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That's the engine nacelle of your Pe-8 after it fell off from my rocket attack today :P
]cheers[
Mike
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(https://i.postimg.cc/Y01D4fHQ/Scan0065.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Correct Graeme. Your turn.
James
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Cheers.
OPEN HOUSE.
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Give this one a try:
(https://i.postimg.cc/dVsTmG1H/quest-2019-07-08.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TpswTLng)
]cheers[
Mike
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Curtiss A-3 Falcon
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Almost - close enough for me though 8)
Actually it's a paruvian model 35F "Export Falcon" aka "South American D-12 Falcon", equipped with a Curtiss D-12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_D-12) engine.
That by the way was one of the first truly successful aluminum cast-block engines, paving way for more commonly known engines as the Rolls-Royce Kestrel and Junkers Jumo 210, which trace their design to the D-12.
Your turn!
]cheers[
Mike
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Thank you.
Here is an oddity
(https://i.postimg.cc/FHVCcYr0/SASQuiz78.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I think I've had that as a little boy, driven by a rubber-band ]read2[
]cheers[
Mike
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An L-5 powered by a ceiling fan?
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Joking aside, isn't that the "Quiet Airplane" L-5 used by the NACA sound lab group?
]cheers[
Mike
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Exactly.
That's the one. Forerunner of the YO-3 of Vietnam vintage.
The propeller had rubber leading edges!
Back to you, Big Brother
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Thanks LameHawk.
Try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Zq8HSCY1/quest-2019-07-08-02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TyPgj2D9)
]cheers[
Mike
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Pützer SR.57 Buzzard
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That man knows his business!
To be precise, it's an SR-57-2k (the ducted fan is a -2k feature).
Your turn Charles James 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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Thanks Mike,
This is perhaps my favorite of this type of aircraft:
(https://i.postimg.cc/j5Zrb3VD/B171-BEAB-9-EBF-4259-B0-E4-7-BF1-DDE28-E7-B.jpg)
Good luck.
James
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This is from page 400...
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.4788.html
Angus Aquila.
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I repeated myself!?
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Let me redo that if you’ll give me the chance.
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/QtbX0kjq/45-EF8498-733-D-478-C-A2-E8-E922-E4-F8-B722.jpg)
Now good luck!
James
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I repeated myself!?
I've done that myself many times.
I believe your latest is the Linke-Hoffman R1. The invisible plane that remained visible...
(https://i.postimg.cc/G38YgHW1/Scan0066.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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'Invisible plane'?
Perhaps the fact that they were able to photograph the thing may have given an indication of it's effectiveness!
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Correct! Your turn Graeme.
James
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Cheers.
(https://i.postimg.cc/rpGyMdYH/Bloated.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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« Reply #2397 on: October 03, 2017
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« Reply #2397 on: October 03, 2017
Ahh...had it before. :)
Over to you LameHawk.
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Ahh...had it before. :)
Consider that this is the 5328th post on the 444th page of this thread. With an average of 5 posts per quest aircraft, we must have gone over more than 1000 types. I guess we're very close to the limit where only very obscure prototypes or DIY aircraft can be a novelty. Perhaps it would be time to shift to ships or vehicles. Or to birds with ca. 10,000 species to have some perspective ;)
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That sounds like a challenge!
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It's amazing. 445 pages and really there have been very few duplicates.
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Guess I asked for it, having orignally posted the Aereon.
This one is not quite so obscure (I think)
(https://i.postimg.cc/jSGz2tcw/SASQuiz79.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Arsenal-Delanne 10
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Much too easy. :(
Over to you, James
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Thanks Lame,
This one should be pretty easy too and may have been posted before:
(https://i.postimg.cc/htzK58Vx/F5-CE3483-A85-A-451-C-AE82-8-B28-B0-F316-FC.jpg)
If we’ve already done this one then you can always try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y95r6bXb/C7-C24-FE2-3-C22-4600-80-B8-54-B86-BB093-A3.jpg)
Good luck,
James
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Possibly the : REPUBLIC RC-3 SEABEE ?
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The bottom pic could be the: N3N Canary ?
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I think the amphibian is the Italian twin-boomer - SIAI Marchetti/Nardi FN-333 Riviera.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIAI-Marchetti_FN.333_Riviera
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Did you do this one already?
(http://www.italianways.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/IW_Caproni_Stipa_01.jpg)
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According to Wiki that's the 3/5th-scale replica (VH-SCZ) of the Caproni Stipa. Another site says it's 2/3rd-scale...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipa-Caproni
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have gone over more than 1000 types. I guess we're very close to the limit where only very obscure prototypes or DIY aircraft can be a novelty.
In the introduction to one of John W.R. Taylor's (Jane's ATWA fame) books he mentions that around 35,000 different aircraft have been built.
He wrote that in 1978. :)
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The bottom pic could be the: N3N Canary ?
Score one for DH
I think the amphibian is the Italian twin-boomer - SIAI Marchetti/Nardi FN-333 Riviera.
And a point to Graeme.
Now you two will fight to the death Gladiator style until one is victorious.
Cheers and good luck,
James
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DHumphrey it is then. :)
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Actually Graeme … you have the honor, the original post was for the "top" pic, if we couldn't find it then see if we could guess the "bottom" pic. Although I had the correct guess, was for the bottom pic, you guessed correctly for the top one … so your turn. :)
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Thanks mate - but I'm traveling this weekend, so Open House/Round.
Cheers. :)
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DHumphrey - you are on again ;D
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Graeme called open house so I’ll give you a quick one.
No reverse image searches for this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tRSj2vGN/E30-DBEAD-4290-442-B-BAC0-EF3851-BE4-B07.jpg)
James
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Northrop BT-1?
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BT-.... 2
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You’re up Mex!
James
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I'll give it to von- I've got nothing (though I swear I did find a good one last night, in a dream - if only it existed...)
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Hey, this one's about aircraft. Not ladies
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I don't really have anything...open round
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I can’t allow this thread to not be active.
This one will be really easy.
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/3xkrwRgQ/0571-F7-AB-DA2-B-4-E9-C-8140-5-CAEF2959-E31.jpg)
James
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Could this possibly be Boeing B&W (replica)?
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Correct!
Your turn Lame.
James
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Thank you.
This one shouldn't be too difficult either
(https://i.postimg.cc/8khwgz3m/SASQuiz80.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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I know what it used to be...
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On Mark Marksman/Marketeer....?
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Not quite right, but close enough.
There were several companies that converted the Douglas B-26 into civilian use.
L B Smith Aircraft Corp. was one, so the plane is a Smith Tempo II.
So Graeme, you are on
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Not quite right, but close enough.
You're very generous mate! :)
It didn't look right, as the nose seemed longer and pointier, but I thought I'd take a stab.
Try this...
(https://i.postimg.cc/G3ZrHZZX/Cockpit.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Pilates P-2?
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No Pilates here.
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The plane looks to be in German markings, but did it ever serve in the Luftwaffe?
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The owner has dressed it in German markings - but it's not German nor served with the Luftwaffe.
First flight was 1957....
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Is it a Nord 3202?
I’m pretty sure that this is the exact plane after a hard landing:
(https://i.postimg.cc/bJQhbQxG/FF444-EA6-5-FD1-4-C4-A-A1-B5-6-CB5-C72-AF9-CA.jpg)
James
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Spot on James! ]thumbsup[
(https://i.postimg.cc/5t44K7JZ/Scan0062.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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OMG :o
They should have got shot for applying that painting to this bird.
]cheers[
Mike
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It does seem to have been sabotaged ;)
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The aircraft itself looks like a cross between a Chipmunk and a lawnmower
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So now it is in lawnmower mode! ;D
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Tail makes me (very vaguely) think about a Ju-87B...
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Try this one gents:
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZYxdrSRg/6-C4-EB284-FC98-490-F-A0-B2-1636-C32700-F8.jpg)
Good luck.
James
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(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0Z7L1qX/Scan0068.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Correct Graeme!
I would have also accepted the Potez 56E or OR-31
Your turn.
James
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Another paint scheme...
(https://i.postimg.cc/xTMNPw6g/British.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The yak (52?) used to film DUnkirk
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That's him! :)
All yours...
(https://i.postimg.cc/G2x918pH/Supermarine-Spitfire-with-IMAX-Camera-Dunkirk-movie-850x415.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I've actually got one this time:
(https://i.postimg.cc/YSXWC3Zd/xplane11.jpg)
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Langley Aircraft Corporation XNL-1/Twin
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Yessir. You’re in control now
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Thanks Mex,
Try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/MK0f0Tk2/36-B62-D7-A-16-E1-49-F9-A429-8890-FF148-F77.jpg)
Good luck!
James
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Nieuport Ni-140
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Correct Graeme.
You’re up.
James
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Cheers!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Gp6W0gvX/Scan0067.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Helicopter ?
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Helicopter ?
Indeed. :)
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Lockheed ?
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Not from Lockheed...
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This one?
Sikorsky HR2S-1W
(https://i.postimg.cc/vHLjLwg9/sik-s-56-aew-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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This one?
Yes. :)
Over to you LH.
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And the designation of this oldie (but goldie)?
(https://i.postimg.cc/SN12DfZr/SASQuiz76.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Ok, the guy on the left looks Asian and the guy and the guy on the right looks sad. The plane. Seems to have two cockpits, close together. I’m guessing it’s British - dH?
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dh it is.
And designation?
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Jupiter DH 4?
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You are in fact so close that I'll give it to you.
It is a de Havilland DH9J, with a Jaguar engine.
And the occasion according to Flight:
"His Imperial Highness
Prince Chichibu, the
second son of the
Emperor of Japan, ex-
perienced the pleasures
of flying for the first
time at the Stag Lane
Aerodrome ."
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Nice. ]thumbsup[
A little more on the J model...
(https://i.postimg.cc/T37QRPzB/Scan0079.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I wasn’t really that close... Open house
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I think you were.
The "9" builds on the "4". Little external difference.
And the "J" used both Jaguar and Jupiter engines
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Except for the plane and the engine I was spot on! ;)
Anyway, open house - I don't have anything...
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This aircraft (believe it or not) has better performance than a Lockheed Model 10A Electra.
Here you go:
(https://i.postimg.cc/28YyrBkg/C9-A752-DA-08-F7-4-B9-E-8-B24-44-A0-C20-FD8-A0.jpg)
James
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It's the General Aircraft ST-18 Croydon
Ended its life ignominiously on a coral reef in the Timor Sea.
Somewhere I have seen pictures of the poor thing lying there
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Correct Lame,
You’re up!
James
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Far away from my computer.
Have to declare open round
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Quote from sniperton #5328
With an average of 5 posts per quest aircraft, we must have gone over more than 1000 types. I guess we're very close to the limit where only very obscure prototypes or DIY aircraft can be a novelty. Perhaps it would be time to shift to ships or vehicles. Or to birds with ca. 10,000 species to have some perspective ;)
......forget birds.......fish are the way to go ;D
Q: what lunatics dreamt up these beauties, when and what happened next...... o_O
(https://i.postimg.cc/PrF2TBC5/fish1A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4mVz12vD) (https://i.postimg.cc/j5X499VK/fish2A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LYJPgx60)
Apologies for the frivolity....I'm on holiday and just back from the BEACH 8)
Cheers
Alfie
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By the way...
(https://i.postimg.cc/G29DGyx8/pvg0tu2ijjt11.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Alouette?
Interesting camouflage, by the way
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I just found the pic without any further info, but belonging to the Indian Navy it can't be other than the Alouette I guess. :)
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But... WHY???? :o
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Fish glide effortlessly through water....so if you want your balloon / helicopter to glide effortlessly through the air you make it like a fish
Obvious when you think of it ;)
Question is....who thought of the idea first ?
Cheers
Alfie
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I might understand this if it was an underwater helicopter.
Alouette sous-marin
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Alouette sous-marin
;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/GhZHdZvZ/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RNLMTpsR)
What about starting another game with planes named after raptor birds, common birds, dive birds, fishes, sea animals, sea monsters, etc?
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.......ah, all quiet on the western front.....
Looks like there's no fish balloon experts available, so I'll reveal all....
The first one is a project suggested by M de Saint-Just in 1784 on seeing the Montgolfier brothers first attempt
He thought making the balloon like a fish would increase it's speed & maneuverability.......forgot to add landing gear :-[ FAIL
The second one is the Pauly & Egg Dolphin ( I'm not making this up)
Made by S.J Pauly and Durs Egg in 1816 in Knightsbridge England. It was 90ft long 24ft wide and 30ft high filled with Hydrogen
Was propelled and steered by oars and had a movable weight on a line from the car to the tail for balancing
Unfortunately Pauly died before the ship was completed and the project was abandoned :-[ FAIL
I originally thought oars would be rubbish to steer and propel any sort of flying machine......and then I saw this
https://www.festo.com/group/en/cms/10224.htm
Perhaps Pauly & Egg were right after all :D
Anyway, enough of this piscean diversion ;)
OPEN HOUSE
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Looks like there's no fish balloon experts available, so I'll reveal all....
Sorry, Alfie, I mistook them for pure phantasy illustrations and misregarded the option they represented something real... :-[
The fish balloon concept does work, see here some remote controlled ones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIJINiK9azc
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My cats would love this!
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Since we’ve gotten far off topic, allow me to bring us back to the root of this great thread.
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/MpYXZcg1/18-B8-FDF1-6-A36-403-C-AABB-1-C022-B1-DF426.jpg)
James
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Italian ?
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The girl in the back?
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I've seen this before, isn't this an experimental development of the Il-2 - can't remember the correct designation, obviously it was a developmental dead end and not many were produced?
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Radoye is the closest so far.
It is Soviet, it is an improvement over the Il-2 and it goes by the exact same designation as another Ilyushin design similar to the Lockheed 188.
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It is Soviet
Olga, master butcher from Владивосток
(https://i.postimg.cc/GtvRZJBh/11637478.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Phwoarr...I would :)
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I'm sure her axe is somewhere in the rear cockpit...
(https://i.postimg.cc/yxBqNQn2/Olga.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Almost right.
1: Igor. He's in love with Olga.
(https://i.postimg.cc/gcVXphL1/igor.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WwJCdBZ)
2: Meat storage
3: Olga
4: Mincer
5: Meat ball throwers
6: Igor's fart exhaust
7: Olga's fart exhaust
8: Cesspit
]cheers[
Mike
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Graeme, you are correct.
Your turn.
James
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Cheers James.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VvSYX8Nr/Cockpit.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I believe this plane had retractable undercarriage... 😉
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OK a total shot in the dark here - Boeing XB-15?
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I believe this plane had retractable undercarriage... 😉
I've been rumbled! Yes, an unusual undercarriage. :)
OK a total shot in the dark here - Boeing XB-15?
No mate, this is a British aircraft...
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But is it a plane, or rather a seaplane ?
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Flying-boat/float-plane. :)
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By Blackburn ???
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Was it the Blackburn B20, with the retractable floats?
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Yep - Blackburn B-20. Well found. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_B-20
(https://i.postimg.cc/1Xw71k0j/Scan0093.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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This would stump me but I doubt it will be much trouble for this bunch:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Jht2T8cB/Screen-Hunter-40.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Ryan Fireball?
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Correct. Your turn Radoye.
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"Ryan Fireball" a most unfortunate name for an aircraft.
As to the Blackburn B20. Prototype crashed and 2 crew lost. How was it that Blackburn was awarded so many military contracts? Nearly all of it's production was sub-par.
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Correct. Your turn Radoye.
I got nothing, open house
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(https://i.postimg.cc/t4Vtx5gr/20190221-105738.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/68tvsCnR)
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M-15 Belphegor, but there was already a question about this plane in DHumphreys "Reply #4856"
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It’s been far too long since the last post.
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/jjfYbF0M/C21-A0-B02-F348-4-A0-D-B7-F4-8-ABB6-EA09-ED3.jpg)
James
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Bratu 220
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Indeed Lame.........did you reverse image search it?
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No, I didn't.
I just remembered it being French, and the somewhat special configuration made it rather easy to dig up.
Note the time stamp on my answer. I might be able to do a reverse image search in that time but I'd have to be very quick.
I can only agree with you. This place has been too dormant over the summer (or winter), so I'll be back again later in the day with something nasty - I hope
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Sounds good. Can’t wait.
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OK, what's this?
(https://i.postimg.cc/9FjDFchc/SASQuiz81.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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A mistake.
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Likely.
Not overly successful
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It reminds me of this for some reason:
(https://i.postimg.cc/RC86NVMG/5-C0-CD56-F-5-F91-4-F3-A-A93-E-B902-DE4-B0-EAD.jpg)
James
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American
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The landing gear struts look very Bellanca-ish, is it some version of the Bellanca 77?
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I tried to cut the picture so it would be possible to see the Bellanca peculiarity.
So, mexchiwa, your keen eye hit the nail right on the head (so to speak).
I haven't been able to find the precise variant, but it looks like something between the Bellanca bomber and a civilianised float version.
So over to you.
(https://i.postimg.cc/76GJcFR4/bellanca-77-140-24563880774-23d6bb0f57-o.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4d6smw7t/o9036v.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/5NNb2BxY/Bellanca-floats.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I got nuthin. Open house
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Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/dV6MyRCC/4-E056-C2-B-9-C6-B-40-EF-9274-1-C6241-B542-EA.jpg)
James
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I don't want to try that, even trying a Heinkel 177 seems more reasonable.
]cheers[
Mike
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As usual couldn't remember where I had seen this before, so it took me a while.
Loire 250
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Indeed Lame,
You’re up.
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Right.
And this sleeping beauty(?)
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4SHCVDQ/SASQuiz82.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Fairchild AT-21 Gunner
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Oh, well. That was quick!
Back to you, James
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Seems James has gone AWOL
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Sorry, a bit busy lately.
I’ll put one up tonight.
James
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Try this one guys:
(https://i.postimg.cc/bND6Ds0Y/757-B4725-BD06-4-B5-D-8-CB1-58-A91-FAFC984.jpg)
James
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Why so pixelated?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Xvs5Vkz2/M-3-Bonzo-1948-3.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Why so pixelated?
Possibly scanned?
Looking at the framework on some old silhouettes of single engine light aircraft from the 40's and 50's (assumptions) I've found something similar on...
Lombardi.
Nardi.
Mraz.
Nord.
My choice...
(https://i.postimg.cc/c1Mdyns7/Scan0128.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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One of those is correct Graeme,
But which one?
Mwahahahahaha!
James
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Lock me in then for the Mraz M-3 Bonzo...
(https://i.postimg.cc/sXNQgS9X/810-NDch-UVSL-SX450.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That’s it Graeme!
You’re turn.
James
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Cheers.
(https://i.postimg.cc/25NrB5gJ/Scan0132.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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A bad name for an airplane after the late 70s...?
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Something like "Groundhog" or similar?
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Something like "Groundhog" or similar?
As in A-10? No mate.
A bad name for an airplane after the late 70s...?
I think you're onto me....
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(https://i.postimg.cc/gcX9vyQJ/Scan0134.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Ah, yes.
This one had slipped my mind entirely.
The Temco TT-1 Pinto
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Nicely done LameHawk.
Over to you. ]thumright[
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Thank you.
A nice little one here
(https://i.postimg.cc/hGrCw2Lk/SASQuiz83.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Anything unique about this biplane?
Construction method? Country of origin?
Landing gear arrangement looks a little weird
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Nothing unique, I believe.
But let's narrow it down to Germany
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Heinkel?
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It looks like a Heinkel because the two design engineers just left Heinkel and went to the company in question where this aircraft was their first design.
6pcs built (other sources mention just two).
]cheers[
Mike
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Cheers for the clues LameHawk and Mike.
The Blohm und Voss Ha 135...
(https://i.postimg.cc/MGCsxCSs/Scan0136.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That's right, Graeme ;D
You again
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Cheers mate!
Try this. Plenty of clues available if needed...
(https://i.postimg.cc/6645wFdR/Scan0133.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It's a Burberry jacket
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4 Burberry jackets.
British.
First flight in 1988.
Quite fast at 540mph...
:)
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Named after a big cat, but not a Jaguar?
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Everytime I attempt to search this plane I get absolutely zero results
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Named after a big cat, but not a Jaguar?
Yes. :)
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Wait just a damn second!
It’s a CMC Leopard.
I initially discounted it because I couldn’t find pictures of the interior.
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That's the cat James. :)
Over to you...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMC_Leopard
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQB47D2K/Scan0131.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Try this duckling:
(https://i.postimg.cc/nrQYQ34R/0-B225-D87-126-B-4-E35-87-CC-90-F5750-A5641.jpg)
James
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F-35?
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Gotta be French, right?
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The French made some particularly ugly aircraft during the twenties.
Gotta be French
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Take-off distance was a mere 80 metres...
(https://i.postimg.cc/FKkvw7JL/Scan0137.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/65bDwBKL/20191009-094433.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That’s it Graeme!
Another one of my aircraft from my imaginary air forces.
Your turn bud,
James
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Cheers!
But it's time for OPEN HOUSE.
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Hmmm
Who's this ?
What's this ?
.....and what was the point ?
(https://i.postimg.cc/0N03dqd6/TP.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers
Alfie
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Indeed what is the point? The props aren't counter-rotating!
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The full story of the aircraft is available here: https://oldmachinepress.com/2017/05/05/rumpler-loutzkoy-taube-aircraft/
]cheers[
Mike
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Nice try I thought.......
If you want to give your standard Rumpler Taube some Oomph...stick a second motor in......
It's obvious
(https://i.postimg.cc/d1njx87c/rumpler-loutzkoy-taube-argus-engines.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
That's a very HEAVY Taube ::(
Ho Hum
Over to you Mike........
Cheers
Alfie
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Mike never claimed his “prize” so in order to keep this alive, I will commandeer this thread.
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/YC719z8L/2355-A73-E-AB28-4242-92-B9-346209-C50-A2-A.jpg)
James
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http://jn.passieux.free.fr/html/Fleetster.php (http://jn.passieux.free.fr/html/Fleetster.php)
8)
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Jesus that was fast!
On to you Gerhard.
James
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Jesus that was fast!
Because it was that easy. :D
(https://i.ibb.co/RN3ZS9n/That-was-fast.jpg)
On to you P51 ;)
]cheers[
Gerhard
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Mike never claimed his “prize”
I'm sorry, totally forgot.
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"Failure is not an option." ;)
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Yes Sir, I beg for beheading.
At least a Luger if you agree.
]cheers[
Mike
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I did in fact inherit a Luger from my father!
But when I did I quickly passed it on to the police.
So you should be safe for now.
Come to think of it, I also inherited a sabre from my grandfather. It must have been for ornamental use only - it's not able to behead anything or anyone.
So relax and perhaps enjoy a whisky before dinner
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Fine then,
This will be more of a challenge methinks.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCHQ6YBM/5-FFBF7-BD-640-F-4-F6-C-88-BD-2-C65792-A2-A40.jpg)
James
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Nixon Special perhaps.
Ref. New England Air Museum
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You guys are on the ball today!
You’re up Lame.
James
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You make it easy for us, James ;)
Nice streamlined thing here
(https://i.postimg.cc/X7g1gNkM/SASQuiz84.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I'm thinking the Polish Lampart...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL.48_Lampart
(https://i.postimg.cc/fytVwpVK/Scan0140.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The photo is from an aircraft exposition in Paris in 1938.
Which means this is in fact a PZL 38.
The 46 and the 38 being so closely related, I'll pass the baton to you, Graeme
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The photo is from an aircraft
That's as far as I got :D
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Thanks for the PZL leniency LameHawk. ]thumleft[
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4bqNx2q/Scan0141.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Soviet, but not Russian....
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Ag plane?
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It didn’t have to fly far to get to Sweden - just over the Baltic. Same engine as a Yak-55
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Yes, a 2-seat agricultural machine - from Lithuania. Homebuilt aircraft put together from a variety of cropdusters. First flight was in 1989. The photo was shot (1992?) at the Experimental Aircraft Association Chapter 222 fly-in at Barkaby, near Stockholm, Sweden...
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I’ll go ahead and answer - Kensgaila VK-8
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Kensgaila VK-8
Well done sir! :)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/YGknhj1x/xplane12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YGknhj1x)
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Now you are being nasty :o
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Hints are 50 cents each, or three for a dollar
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Possibly an F-82?
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Not a Twin Mustang, but right country and era
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Looks like this to me:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/8865/17846455656_9af1e236bd_o.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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That would be it
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A Phantom I....I would have never guessed.
Great job Mike!
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Looks like a F2H banshee
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It’s definitely a FH Phantom.
This is a Banshee:
(https://i.postimg.cc/8kw8Z6QX/7-CAAC5-FA-51-C3-4750-B6-DA-B3-FC2-FA309-BC.jpg)
And this is a Phantom:
(https://i.postimg.cc/VkgD8jg2/23-A228-F8-6-FA4-4-F81-B8-E2-708-E7-F253-F1-D.jpg)
Note the jet nozzles and the placement of the horizontal stabilizer.
James
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Indeed.
If the baton has been put into my hands, I forward it to James hereby.
]cheers[
Mike
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Thank you Mike. That’s very kind of you.
Try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/HsjvRwSn/E9-B40571-DBDE-41-E9-BDE1-15-F4-B4-B650-C0.jpg)
Good luck.
James
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Total stab in the dark: 1/8 scale aerodynamic model for the Concorde?
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Must be Place de la Concorde
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A Pou du ciel of some kind...not a Mignet. Is it a Newton?
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Neither BD
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The Scooter?
(https://i.postimg.cc/sXQ7DFb0/Scan0142.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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You got it Graeme!
Good job buddy. I’ll be sure to do difficult ones like this in the future.
Looks like it’s your turn.
James
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Cheers James.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Qxy5FP4c/Scan0143.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I honestly can’t tell if this is a glider, a helicopter or a blimp. Or which way is forward. Or why the guy is lying down like that
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This guy got into an argument about the P-51 flight model that got so deep, he got the bends. Now he is in a decompression chamber.
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I honestly can’t tell if this is a glider, a helicopter or a blimp. Or which way is forward. Or why the guy is lying down like that
Twin engine (Lycoming IO-540) amphibian. Wiki says the first flight was in 1991 - only two built. Dunno why the guy is doing that, probably just to illustrate the enormous space - aft.
Meanwhile, at the front...
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZYwRYmdY/Scan0145.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Donnerwetter!
Is it yellow?
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This one is white - but there was a yellow one..... :)
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looks to be a Wilson global explorer
(https://i.postimg.cc/1XNnsfBZ/Wilson-Global-Explorer-N376-LC-1-Santa-Fe-NM-25-06-95-R-edited-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That's him. ]thumright[
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4dq99Kb/Scan0147.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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See if you all can figure out this one...
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMQbJrNs/The-Challenge.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/94NGzz5K)
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Looks very much like a Tu-144 cockpit.
It's a bit odd that the control colums have slightly less buttons than usual and the addon panel in the center/top is so small, but nevertheless, it should be a Tu-144.
]cheers[
Mike
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Yep you got it mike, it seems my knowledge of obscure Soviet aircraft was too easy for you all
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Mmmmh... I would not say that Tu-144 is an obscure aircraft...
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Yes but who else but us airplane nerds knows it even existed?
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Thanks Flanker.
Time for something easier.
Please name which the navigator of the aircraft on this photo has been in service on during the first 5 months flying time.
Alternatively, tell the name of his daughter's dog:
(https://i.postimg.cc/k5MTncS6/p2Xmfp1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJTqgXDm)
]cheers[
Mike
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Мла́дший сержа́нт Victor Oblyenko.
His daughter’s name is Nadia.
Her pet dog is named Masya.
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So you've been the one who had a bit of how's your father with Nadia?
Anyway, the baton goes to: James
]cheers[
Mike
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Alright then,
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Nj6bCyHp/2286733-E-3716-403-C-8-E83-B0874780986-E.jpg)
Good luck....
James
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How on earth does a German come across the colloquial English phrase "a bit of 'ow's yer father!"
A term not in popular usage here since the 1950's :)
Do you know what squadron the Typhoon in your image belongs to Mike? Just wondering if it was my Brother in Law's, or maybe even him piloting. He used to intercept Bears with 17 Squadron, 2005 I think.
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How on earth does a German come across the colloquial English phrase "a bit of 'ow's yer father!"
A term not in popular usage here since the 1950's :)
Monty Python's?
http://www.montypython.net/scripts/RAFbanter.php
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Мла́дший сержа́нт Victor Oblyenko.
His daughter’s name is Nadia.
Her pet dog is named Masya.
Can you also give the length of his moustache and the size of his wife's bra ?
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Is that Farmer Brown’s D-558-2?
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It’s the original static test model. Full working system with metal and wood construction. It was property of our museum until someone made an offer on it. It went home with one of our volunteers who promptly turned it into his son’s playground. It then caught fire under “mysterious” circumstances and was quickly scrapped.
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How on earth does a German come across the colloquial English phrase "a bit of 'ow's yer father!"
A term not in popular usage here since the 1950's :)
Look: You're not the only one growing old :P
Do you know what squadron the Typhoon in your image belongs to Mike? Just wondering if it was my Brother in Law's, or maybe even him piloting. He used to intercept Bears with 17 Squadron, 2005 I think.
Then it's not him.
The aircraft shown is a Typhoon F2 of Block 2B, S/N "ZJ392", which went into service on November 10 2006 as 36th Typhoon fighter aircraft of the RAF.
The plane has later been upgraded to FGR.4 standard and is in service with the XI (F) Sqaudron (https://www.raf.mod.uk/our-organisation/squadrons/xi-f-squadron/) at RAF Coningsby.
17 Squadron by the way is usually an OEU and as such was at RAF Coningsby in 2005-2013. Nowadays they fly the F-35B at Edwards AFB.
]cheers[
Mike
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Open house
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Let´s relive the trivia! :o
Guess this friends!
(https://i.postimg.cc/FH4G1m9C/guess911.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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Thinking this...
(https://i.postimg.cc/yx0yg7Jt/Scan0159.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Yes! ;D
you´re Up Graeme!
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Cheers Loco!
(https://i.postimg.cc/2jwY1nXF/Scan0127.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Would it help to know what the plane is in the background? (Looks like a DC-3 with a B-17 tail)
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Well, regardless of the background identity, I can tell you this is Italian...
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Is this a flying car? Are the wings/engine/ and tail removable?
Is it the Aerauto Pl5c?
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Is it the Aerauto Pl5c?
Indeed it is Mexchiwa. ]thumright[
Over to you....
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Here's one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/gJV0p50f/xplane13.jpg)
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The Willoughby Delta...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willoughby_Delta_8
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Yessir. Some more info here http://dingeraviation.net/delta/willoughbydeltas.htm
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Cheers!
Open House...
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I won’t allow this thread to die!
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/YCqRWRn2/91-EE6-F4-C-00-D7-4382-814-C-826-F3294-DBAA.jpg)
Good luck.
James
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Anyone volunteer to become ball turret gunner on that one?
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I would hope not
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It’d actually be very safe - the “plane” never got off the “ground”...
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It’d actually be very safe - the “plane” never got off the “ground”...
Thanks for the clue!
Grumman XTB2F...
(https://i.postimg.cc/X7bt9vBM/TB2-F-Colored.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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That’s it Graeme!
Your turn.
James
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Cheers!
(https://i.postimg.cc/bN2f9gfG/Nose-Front.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Northrop F-5
]cheers[
Gerhard
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Don’t think so. Is this the made-in-Taiwan version?
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Is this the made-in-Taiwan version?
Indeed. :)
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Open House.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0ywcM8nZ/Scan0174.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4bk6nZs)
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Alright, time for another strange bird.
Guess this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/NfsTc5zg/561-AF1-DB-C8-F9-4708-BE07-B316-B908-DE12.jpg)
This should be easy.
Sincerely,
James
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Douglas ?
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Looks like the Northrop F-15.
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Good guess Graeme but not quite
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Then maybe the XP-61E.
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That’s the one.
You’re up.
James
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Cheers James.
Another OPEN HOUSE please.
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Happy New Years! Here's one to start us off - let's see if we can overcome our inability to find any aircraft we don't already know about:
(https://i.postimg.cc/vZZGJjpJ/xplane14.jpg)
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This reminds me about absolutely nothing. It's not a helicopter, is it?
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you could call it a helicopter
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Found it. ;D
Transcendental Model 2.
Certainly not a well known aircraft
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Yep. I'd never heard of it until a few days ago. Your turn!
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Thank you.
Here is a somewhat obscure plane as well
(https://i.postimg.cc/V6YGbWWt/SASQuiz85.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Sidecar Lighting :P
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Well found Loco! ]thumbsup[
Something I've never seen before.
(https://i.postimg.cc/nL91F6HR/lock-RP38.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
"P-38 (Model 222) 1940 = 37mm cannon; range: 1490. POP: 30 [40-744/773], of which 1 converted to XP-38A and 1 fitted with an experimental cockpit in the port boom as RP-38 [40-744] to test physical effects on a person remote from the center of gravity."[/b]
Happy New Year to everyone!
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You are both right, of course.
Not sure who to hand the baton.
Loco certainly hit the nail on the head, whereas Graeme came up with all the details (Aerofiles, I can see).
Tend to think the precise designation must tip the scales, so Graeme, you are up
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Not sure who to hand the baton.
Loco certainly hit the nail on the head
Hand the baton to Loco please. I think a Lightning Sidecar describes it beautifully. :)
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I agree - a very good description.
So, Loco, your turn :D
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Thank you friends for giving me the baton! ;D
I think was the least effort that I do in this trivia. o_O
Was just see and comment the first thing that came out of my mind. :P
Let's go with this nice batrachian
(https://i.postimg.cc/tgKmk3Hy/guess911.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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Have another go Loco...
You posted the Miles a few pages back...
Post No. #5566
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47916.5556.html
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I had the suspicion ... :-[
Look for it with the search tool above and nothing appears. :-|
I did not delete it from my folder of mystery planes and that is my mistake. :(
It must be the age ... ;D
let's try this
(https://i.postimg.cc/yYDhfyw2/guess2022.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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Immediate though was Russian.
Now thinking French?
Possibly the SNCAC NC 420?
https://www.aviafrance.com/aviafrance1.php?ID=9496&ID_CONSTRUCTEUR=1141&ANNEE=0&ID_MISSION=0&MOTCLEF=
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I agree with Graeme’s guess here.
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Yes!
Is the SNCAC Sn-420 ;D
Graeme you have the baton!
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Cheers Loco!
(https://i.postimg.cc/3Jt0ysQZ/Hot-End.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Sarlacc jet?
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More like the opposite!
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Would those things be jato bottles?
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Indeed they are LH.
This is a big machine.
Wiki says the maximum take off weight is around 63,000 lbs.
Very unique looking.
Appeared in a movie with William Holden.
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Gilbert XF-120?
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Martin XB-51, talk about an interesting airplane the other two engines look like afterthoughts strapped to the bottom, it was also suppose to be armed with 8 20mm cannon that’s a scary amount of firepower
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Gilbert XF-120?
Done! ;)
Over to you.
(https://i.postimg.cc/BbgrqwcV/xb-51-back.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/jj7BWj4N/XB-51-Mar-092.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I’ll give it to Flanker
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I’ll give it up as a free post I need to hunt my strange aircraft books some
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Try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/q7jW7rW5/B9-EB4792-24-F3-4135-BA19-0435579-BBEB1.jpg)
James
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DeHavilland Dove?
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Armstrong Whitworth AW55 Apollo
Just two built. It just wasn't good enough
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Yeah but it was interesting looking.
Lame, you’re up.
James
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A nice one here
(https://i.postimg.cc/C5Yx45Ym/SASQuiz86.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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You are right, Graeme.
These small German civilian/aerobatic/communication/training aircraft from the thirties are so pretty :)
Over to you
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I thought I was seeing a nose wheel - but an optical illusion?
Arado Ar-79?
(https://i.postimg.cc/6pf2n6zz/Capture.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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No nosewheel.
When I get back to my computer I will post the original picture
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Cheers LameHawk. I deleted my original reply cause of the 'nose wheel' - but then had a closer look at your photo. :)
Open House for the moment....
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Now it looks as if I accepted your answer before it arrived 8)
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This is the original
(https://i.postimg.cc/vZCZnmNx/Ar-79b.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Cheers LameHawk.
Try a plan view silhouette....
(https://i.postimg.cc/fLw6FrzZ/SAS.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Not a HP Hermes, in case anyone was thinking that
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Only one built.
First flight was in 1958.
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Tend to think it is an Italian: Agusta-Zappata AZ.8
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It looks like if a DH Comet got drunk at a party and spent the night with a Douglas.
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Tend to think it is an Italian: Agusta-Zappata AZ.8
Done! :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agusta_AZ.8L
Back to you sir...
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Thank you.
Here is one that is almost guaranteed to be nasty
(https://i.postimg.cc/0NHMcTzB/SASQuiz87.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It is nasty.
And it's from a country who's export products ruined life for many.
]cheers[
Mike
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Not quite sure what you have in mind.
Wine?
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People :P
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Ah, yes.
I agree.
Unfortunately they are not alone
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Silence is golden.
First flight, 1936.
And not from one of the bigger aircraft producing countries
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What continent is this thing on? (Stan in the dark here- is it in the Iberian peninsula?
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It's european. To be precise, right south of germany.
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Don't tell me it is Swiss...
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Surely not.
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my first post in this thread .. :)
its a Hopfner HR 14/34.
http://www.histaviation.com/hopfner_hr_1434.html
Thanks for the hints .. yes we "exported" a lot of people:
Hansi Hinterseer, Gabalier, Toni Polster .. was there someone else ? :-X
And especially the Germans always liked those people .. o_O
(https://i.postimg.cc/jqwRhgHX/Hopfner-HR-14-34.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Here are more Austrian planes:
http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2010/12/04/aircraft-production-in-austria/nggallery/page/1
As I do not know wich plane to ask for I declare a open round ... ;)
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Looks like you're right.
Pending LameHawks confirmation, since this is open round...
How about this one?
(https://i.ibb.co/gTy0wZr/IMG-4507.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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It's hard to disagree with the answer.
So open round it is.
And since it is a first for you here, Gerax, welcome.
Hope you will not declare open round each time :)
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Thanks for the hints .. yes we "exported" a lot of people:
Hansi Hinterseer, Gabalier, Toni Polster
Hansi Hinterseer is quite popular up here in Denmark too. If the other two are like him, I think I'll just leave it there.
I like this better:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/watch?v=k2HGVsHFlLM
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How about this one?
De Havilland Mosquito?
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Absolutely right Graeme, your turn.
]cheers[
Mike
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Cheers Mike.
(https://i.postimg.cc/T2mF6zj3/Scan0223.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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First prototype Mitsubishi Ki-21
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Spot on James.
Over to you sir.
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I’m just about to head out for the museum so I’ll leave an easy one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/43cL3jZz/5-CF1-F278-AB22-4259-A57-B-4-C59206040-E9.jpg)
James
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F-35?
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Naval version
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Curtiss L-2
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You got it Lame.
Your turn.
James
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Thank you.
Now for one with fire in the tail
(https://i.postimg.cc/j5xc3Lwc/SASQuiz88.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Looks pretty much like an EE Lightning with underwing rocket pod.
]cheers[
Mike
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Only if you had the registration number you could be more precise (XR722)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Yq856n8G/25-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kB6Y9y0q)
You got it again
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Best and british, just what I like.
This should be fairly easy:
(https://i.ibb.co/SsCN4m2/IMG-4408.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Oh yes, that's one I like :P
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Blackburn Buccaneer?
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Absolutely correct Radoye.
It's a Blackburn Buccaneer S.50, c/n SA.12/42, reg.no. 422.
Details about the S.50 can be found here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_Buccaneer#South_African_Air_Force).
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7536/15542362348_88f714bd67_o.jpg)
Your turn!
]cheers[
Mike
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OK this shouldn't be too hard:
(https://i.postimg.cc/RFfySY2P/whatsthis.jpg)
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Kawasaki Ki-78
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Correct, your turn!
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im booring... :-[
Let´s relive this tread!
guess this!
(https://i.postimg.cc/G3qfGXh3/guess-153.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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Makes me think ybout a A-5 Vigilante with steroids... made by same company, North American ???
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Looks quite a lot like the NA XF-108 mockup.
Nice plane and indeed the design concepts and a couple of weapon systems later emerged in the Vigilante.
]cheers[
Mike
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It's a planeeeeeeeeeee
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Yes mike!
It is the only model of the XF-108. an interceptor and weapon system with the same engines as the XB-70 Valkyrie.
After its cancellation, part of it was used in the Vigilante, essentially the fuselage, discarding the double delta wings.
Gaston was close ...
(https://i.postimg.cc/mDynvK9h/f-108-rapier.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I also expected the other classic response that delights us ... ;)
Your turn mike!
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Thanks loco.
No clue what you mean by "the other response" 8)
Let's give this one a try:
(https://i.ibb.co/vchtB5x/quest-2020-03-17.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Would that be a Dornier 17?
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Absolutely correct LameHawk, well spotted! Your turn 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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The early 17s looked so good!
Here is a fairly easy one
(https://i.postimg.cc/k4Rfp8NP/SASQuiz89.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Now if that's not an F-35 then I got nothing...
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For some reason I find that a little hard to believe... :D
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That is what we wanted to hear! :P
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Wasn't it remote controlled after take-off ???
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Yes
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Mmmmh... did not someone who could have been a future US President die in this "thing" ???
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That is of course speculation, but yes.
Although he flew a different type.
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I sense a certain reluctance actually mentioning what it is :-|
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Mentioning the F-35 or the BQ-7?
]cheers[
Mike
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There is in fact an F-35 in the picture.
But I cut that out to sort of focus on the BQ-7.
So you got it again, Big Brother 8)
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Sorry guys, I'm a bit late.
This one's for you to guess:
(https://i.postimg.cc/htsSQXFb/quest-2020-03-25.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5XHcZN26)
]cheers[
Mike
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I seem to have the same book ;)
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Bisnovat Sk-2?
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Bisnovat Sk-2?
Almost 8)
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look like an
North American XP-51 Mustang
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Come on, RealDarko...you just have the number wrong !
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^^Gaston is damn right.
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I see now the cockpit, is the Sk-1?
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Finally! 8)
You are right RealDarko, it's the Sk-1.
You've got the baton!
]cheers[
Mike
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(https://i.imgur.com/uJLvD6W.jpg)
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Boeing's attempt to fix the ongoing 737MAX issues?
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lol
Not from Boeing
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Makes me think about this :
(https://i.postimg.cc/9QchqRNX/philips-gc2040-70-k1511104158326-B-153555962.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xp1hRJbt)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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This is a plane:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Gmg4R7YG/7ae7c79eba9d1b633dceccf0f7410f81.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5Xv4qms2)
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I don’t know if any civilians had even heard of this one until it popped up in a museum...
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Reminds me of the Tesla pickup truck for some reason.
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That is a Northrop Tacit Blue
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Reminds me of the Tesla pickup truck for some reason.
:D
God that is a awful piece of design
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That is a Northrop Tacit Blue
Yes, your turn!
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It’s been a while since I’ve been here so I’ll give you something interesting.
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y2yPvXbY/2212-B20-F-A45-C-42-A0-8-FD4-1-F348-E780-A69.jpg)
James
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A windsock.
Or is it a flag there in the background?
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Use your imagination Mike. I know there’s something in that polished brain of yours.
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Mike is confused because it is not an F-35.
(More likely a Su -50)
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same nose shape as De Haviland Dove and Heron but cockpit is different
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that polished brain of yours
Agreed 8)
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closed thing i found was the CASA C 207 Azor :(
but im sure its not
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CASA isn't polished enough to be correct.
]cheers[
Mike
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I began to polish my search a little more, at the end found:
PZL MD-12
;D
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That’s correct Loco.
Your turn.
James
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tanks james!
It would have been impossible without the help of Mike's shined brain! ;D
Try this easy one!
(https://i.postimg.cc/PxrYBrdg/guess19420.png) (https://postimages.org/)
cheers!
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Oh... with this false look of a Mosquito... made in Argentina ?
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You already have it gaston .. only the name is missing.
there is one more similar to a mosquito even :P
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FMA I.Ae.24 Calquin, is what I think...
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Yes it is! ;D
Now you have the baton Gaston!
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Okay, and thanks ! I lik this Argentinian plane, even if it was not very successful...
So... baton is moine ? Well... let's see...
(https://i.postimg.cc/7L1hG0bd/Quiquizz54.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
What is this plane ? Hope I did not post it already !!! if you know the place I took this photo, you will find easily what plane it is !
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There is a symbol on the side of the fuselage.
It looked Thai like to me, so since I already knew that they have a very interesting aviation museum there,
I went straight over there.
It must be the Vought V93S Corsair
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And you are perfectly right :
(https://i.postimg.cc/pLnHmtrS/Vought-O2-U-Corsair.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvZjz2Q7)
This museum (RTAF Museum, in Bangkok, near Don Mueang Airport) is one of my favourite places in Thailand ! Hopefully, I will go again next September ! Hopefully... damn COVID-19...
Your turn !
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Thank you.
Now for a fire and brimstone type.
Exact type number, please
(https://i.postimg.cc/PrtWXvY5/SASQuiz90.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hawker ??? Makes me think a lor about the Sea Hawk, so member of the family ?
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On the right track
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So... a Sea Hawk with rocket engine, like the P.1072 ???
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Exactly!
Well done - your turn again
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Thanks. Was not too difficult : jet exhaust of Sea Hawk are quite characteristic !
My turn ? OK.
(https://i.postimg.cc/cC115z8n/Quiquizz55.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
What plane is this ? Think it will not last very long...
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Siam pretty sure I know where this is...
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Siam is a good direction...
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RTAF-5. Basically a single-engined OV-10. Anyway, I don’t have anything, so open house
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You are right, Mexchiwa !
(https://i.postimg.cc/WzFB5D0Q/RTAF-5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PvHVx534)
Saw it when I visited RTAF Museum in Bangkok in 2017. And hope to visit this museum again next September (hopefully, if this COVID thing gets better !).
So... your turn or open house !
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The house is open
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Try this gents:
(https://i.postimg.cc/KvnFgSLL/91-EEDEEE-DB55-415-F-BC7-D-DCDE7108-A102.jpg)
James
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i'm not sure... :-[
Curtiss Kingbird.
but can't say what model :-|
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I’ll take Kingbird as an acceptable answer. Good job Loco.
Onto you,
James
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tanks james! ;D
was the Curtiss Kingbird D2??? :-[
let's try this easy rarity
(https://i.postimg.cc/br9RqNHW/guess9520.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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Looks like the illegitimats son of a Su-15 and a Su-24... Sukhoi ?
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Gaston!
close! but no cigar! ;)
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Su 15 and Su 24? That is incestous!
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Throw in a little Yak-38 and TSR.2 for some genetic diversity
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You were quite correct with the genetics of this litle bastard! ;D
Already know what family it is and named some relatives.
He has the same face as his son, a similar body.
Father's arms.
Of the uncle has the extra, a bit useless, things to jump on.
Of the british cousin has same "blown" ability
We could calmly say that he is the F-35's great uncle! :P
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I’ll go ahead and solve the puzzle- Sukhoi T-6
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Yes mex! ;D
puzzle solved!
Sukhoi T-6-1 was the first attempt to Su-24.
Have the wings of Su-15
6 engines, 4 for sustentation like Yak-38 and blown flaps to shorts landings.
You have the baton now!
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Very interesting plane, with such good ideas in it !
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(https://i.postimg.cc/WzwhSVJ0/xplane15.jpg)
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Do-28A-1.
Couldn't you find a smaller pic of that bird ;)
]cheers[
Mike
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Yep. Sorry, I needed a really misleading pic of one on floats...
You’re up
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thx mexchiwa.
Sorry for the bad quality of this pic, but it's scanned straight from the book:
(https://i.postimg.cc/T1QJT2Tz/quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hQzdrBzs)
]cheers[
Mike
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Lol,
FliWaTüt.
Habe ich jetzt eine Tüte Erdnüsse gewonnen?
]cheers[
Gerhard
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Keine Erdnüsse, sondern 1 Sekunde Wellness Urlaub, die sofort anzutreten ist.
Und, wie war Dein Urlaub?
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...Wellness Urlaub...
habe ich dringend nötig, meine Pumpe will nicht mehr so richtig...!
]cheers[
Gerhard
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Is that a Schweizer X-26 also known as QT-2?
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Thank you, I was really curious what the hell it was. Now I know:
http://www.quietaircraft.com/history.html
Not as crazy as my first thought was (DIY ultra-light VTOL), but still pretty odd and strange-looking. :D
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I think the baton should go to glibble, he got as close as I'd expect anyone to get without Google's help.
Your turn glibble :)
@bomberkiller: Sag Deiner Pumpe: Gestorben wird jetzt nicht, das versaut nur die Statistik!
Jeder, der im Moment ins Gras beißt, wird doch am Ende irgendwie als Corona-Toter gezählt...
]cheers[
Mike
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Klar, habe doch nicht 132 Päckchen Butter weggeschmolzen damit die Sargträger es leichter haben! :))
]cheers[
Gerhard
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Wow my turn eh? That's a first :P
(https://i.imgur.com/kKuR5rE.jpg)
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Could it be the AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-Kuo?
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Could it be the AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-Kuo?
Yes you are correct!
Now it's your turn :)
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Thanks glibble,
Try this guys:
(https://i.postimg.cc/4N0fY0bD/5-B736-AC8-BB02-4-F19-9700-EB231-C946-C89.jpg)
James
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that nice face and the bastan engines have already been posted. :-[
But I like so much that I'm going to excuse myself from answering this time. ;D
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Is that so? Damn.....
I’ll choose another then.
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Let’s try that again. Thanks Loco ;)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hk2zmjcz/F880-D384-61-C9-44-F5-AD93-1-F2-CF9-E0-EF7-E.jpg)
James
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Interesting plane.
The first polish serial production aircraft after WW2, the Szpak-4T, produced in a series of 10 planes.
Designed by LWD (Lotnicze Warsztaty Doświadczalne = Aviation Experimental Workshops), manufactured by PZL (Polskie Zakłady Lotnicze = Polish Aviation Works), formerly "WSK" (Wytwórnia Sprzętu Komunikacyjnego = Communication Equipment Factory) in Mielec, simply called "PZL Mielec".
The engine was a pre-WW2 german Bramo manufactured Siemens-Halske Sh.14A-4, the engine series which also powered famous planes like the Focke-Wulf Fw 44 "Stieglitz", the Bücker Bü-133 "Jungmeister", the first fully controllable helicopter Focke-Wulf Fw 61 and the Flettner Fl 282 "Kolibri" Synchropter.
]cheers[
Mike
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Absolutely Mike.
I take it you’ve seen it yourself.
You’re up,
James
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Unfortunately I've been too late, the plane has been disassembled in 2008.
Now... admittedly we've had this plane before, but it doesn't make it less interesting:
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMDyLDPV/quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KkKcHPbr)
]cheers[
Mike
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French, I think...
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French, I think...
Yep. From northern France. ;)
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Agree.
Winged baguette 8)
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:D
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So I watch you solve the trivia... 1500 times
(https://i.postimg.cc/6qxMVQmc/Griffon.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Griffon isn't it ?
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Think so...
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Perhaps 02
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Chrival took the baton 8)
Your turn Chrival!
]cheers[
Mike
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Ok.
First try for me
(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZLSc4HL/Aviasport-11-1960.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TpZyLZW8)
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The tailcode gives away that it's french, and that leads us to the Fournier RF-1 IMHO.
]cheers[
Mike
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Congratulations Mike !
When I was young I flew the RF-6B, code F-GANF. IIRC it was the only one in France
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Im Next Which one it is. Try this.
(https://i.postimg.cc/mkG2sG2Z/Lavochkin-La-152.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Lavochkin La 152
https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZitd4qS_1kTaE9Z89z5lMsJ1KmkUg0hVZZdesDA9ybGIfoKXNpuux6WEfSam9657YgUWKmIh-cIJsTNz1jYGV2la1rtAxwrEdJDluPix3rV_1Dpfw-dn8LI0nQTnwy96_1SQCgRltiIgzC805edK3EBaLIa8439jR4qWzTM3cWBWavqv2j6m4hryg0zv_15Pa53hU5EgQNn_15CAbd8azNIZa_1yF_1-NZ-cvh4TokgyrIGwkZ5jgLZOUAcnKi-Isfow35vcf0LzhaNZbnepnEEvfsLkDx8J9ljLyBXWKW7d-RsZf7jonKq97RrZK86qpV-b5O5FrwrfFgwnVHgdIq49dAuOxQn0kO28A (https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZitd4qS_1kTaE9Z89z5lMsJ1KmkUg0hVZZdesDA9ybGIfoKXNpuux6WEfSam9657YgUWKmIh-cIJsTNz1jYGV2la1rtAxwrEdJDluPix3rV_1Dpfw-dn8LI0nQTnwy96_1SQCgRltiIgzC805edK3EBaLIa8439jR4qWzTM3cWBWavqv2j6m4hryg0zv_15Pa53hU5EgQNn_15CAbd8azNIZa_1yF_1-NZ-cvh4TokgyrIGwkZ5jgLZOUAcnKi-Isfow35vcf0LzhaNZbnepnEEvfsLkDx8J9ljLyBXWKW7d-RsZf7jonKq97RrZK86qpV-b5O5FrwrfFgwnVHgdIq49dAuOxQn0kO28A)
Best regards,
Gerhard (https://i.ibb.co/khTPgtX/Haegar-Hauwegden-Humpen.png)
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Nice one BK, your Next.
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Hello KT,
You try the next please.
]cheers[
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Try this, I hope you find one.
(https://i.postimg.cc/FRPbSKfz/be7af61668d1b9b5689ddcabd0b93726.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Yakovlev Yak 25, 1947
https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZitbv6Ei6NSgmFZ8H3fr_1JtDRPxiLVqgOQr_1mMMXnwqaj9oEOq-Om1wZdhVt1ykzCiM9nYJm945-XyAsKS3m0v-nQ1bndGZ-eTTN5QryqldMoKB98BDbZhXAqAJCA32PBgnWOy7SGrHnJqe24JQOdwzaVSRdRaVhrZoSkkGCWG3opz1hzPbkfpFuporS5IsT08Yolt-lYq0dRQYJ8CSgpPddzzpV6wCxwy_1xwEg7XlHO-orNU1nlNUhotiJwF34iHDxhEbRDewwteXtcSdLQ4LpZhSkhT0TqlQe0g1H17qWAwoqfr4RS5uB1nYmk5YsCurtZhhaIN2ewo6oR8ttMn1rj4Y0wFA (https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZitbv6Ei6NSgmFZ8H3fr_1JtDRPxiLVqgOQr_1mMMXnwqaj9oEOq-Om1wZdhVt1ykzCiM9nYJm945-XyAsKS3m0v-nQ1bndGZ-eTTN5QryqldMoKB98BDbZhXAqAJCA32PBgnWOy7SGrHnJqe24JQOdwzaVSRdRaVhrZoSkkGCWG3opz1hzPbkfpFuporS5IsT08Yolt-lYq0dRQYJ8CSgpPddzzpV6wCxwy_1xwEg7XlHO-orNU1nlNUhotiJwF34iHDxhEbRDewwteXtcSdLQ4LpZhSkhT0TqlQe0g1H17qWAwoqfr4RS5uB1nYmk5YsCurtZhhaIN2ewo6oR8ttMn1rj4Y0wFA)
Best regards,
Gerhard (https://i.ibb.co/khTPgtX/Haegar-Hauwegden-Humpen.png)
KT, the next one please. :D
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It’s Your Turn, BK Not me.
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I’ll go again. Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/76zwxV0R/E6729-DF5-E071-43-AE-A4-F7-1-E30-C0421119.jpg)
Good luck.
James
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Think we already have this mother... :-|
or the little son. :P
(https://i.postimg.cc/nzxs13tr/lil-batard.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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It’s similar but look at the right side of the picture and the landing gear. Different plane.
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yes, i know...
you are talking about the mother...
i was post the son...
nevermind... i go to solve.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DfR3jTdM/mother-and-son.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Tu-4LL (mother) and Tu-91 (son)
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Those Russians think of everything.
You’re up Loco
James
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tanks James! ;D
go with this beauty!
(https://i.postimg.cc/2S5spHp6/guess2907.png) (https://postimages.org/)
cheers!
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Yes, the real beauty of british jet design on the verge of the 50s, 2/3rd down the way from Sea Hawk to Hunter.
]cheers[
Mike
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All that mick said is correct... ;D
But he not name it. :o
Still wait a correct and exact name. ;)
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Hawker P.1081
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Yes James! ;D
You have the baton!
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Well, let´s try relive it. ;D
Guess this!
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4G9mJPR/guess2906.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers!
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That's an eagle owl on steroids!
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Hi all, first time chiming in...
Su-12?
https://airpages.ru/draw/su12_1.gif
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Yes Hamilton! ;D
is a Su-12
You have the baton now!
Cheers!
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Oh thanks!
Difficult to find something still unpublished on this thread of connoisseurs ..
I had in my mind the Berlin B-9, but after a quick search I noticed that even such an obscure plane already appeared in an old post.
So.. let's go to back the basics...
(https://i.postimg.cc/WbJvQdMH/Detail.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Cheers, H
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F-35, no doubt.
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F-35, no doubt.
+1
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Mrs Lilienthals static Flycatcher
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[Mrs Lilienthals static Flycatcher]
No static, but flying... and more like an X-36 than a F-35.
The cropped image shows just the tail and the propeller... it is a pusher! Apparently, the first cruciform tail in aviation history...
H
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Oh well, my proposal wasn't very successful apparently.
It was a detail of Alphonse Penaud's Planophore, which, powered by a rubber band, flew a whopping 131 feet streak on 18 August 1871 at the Tuileries Garden in Paris, delighting the members of the Société Aéronautique.
Open house!
(https://i.postimg.cc/hvRBN7vW/Planophere-Pusher-Photo.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Was too hard Hamilton... :-[ and needs be categorized in drone section :P
I go with the plane of Diana Prince before switch invisibility on.
She looks ugly with helmet.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKh8PyFt/guess3006-Wonder-Woman-Plane.png) (https://postimages.org/)
i think is super easy and roll fast.
Cheers!
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XF-90?
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Yes Mex!
Superfast! ;D
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I had one I wanted to post so I was keeping an eye out...
Anyway, here it is:
(https://i.postimg.cc/QNRsGscX/xplane16.jpg)
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The Lockheed Duo-4 was essentially a Lockheed Vega with two Menasco C-4 Pirate inlines mounted on their sides with the cylinder heads closest together and the shafts farthest apart. It eventually crashed during a test flight in 1931 and was rebuilt with larger more powerful engines. The four cylinder Pirate engines were replaced with six cylinder B6S Buccaneer engines with superchargers that had a power output of 230 hp. It flew again in 1934 and proved to be a successful design. Unfortunately nothing came of this and it was put on the back burner.
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I need more info...
Kidding, of course - all yours
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Try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/t4cT6FVd/301-C0-A45-7531-4-CEE-80-F7-DFE6620-A48-CB.jpg)
James
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That’s Jennifer. Next!
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That's Janet, not Jennifer.
Jennifer was the brown haired one.
]cheers[
Mike
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The plane (not the girl) does look preggers, though - is there something to that?
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Large internal area.
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This thing is factory built? (Not a kitplane?). Does it have a wheeled option or just floats?
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It is a kit built aircraft and as of this year only six have been constructed. It comes with tricycle type landing gear but can be fitted to amphibious floats.
(https://i.postimg.cc/W3X77w6g/93-F52-F31-1-C49-48-B2-994-F-E543-D1845733.jpg)
James
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I still have no idea what it is - but it looks like it was built by Winnebago
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I’ll give you a big hint:
It privately explores
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Ok, got it. The Wilson Private Explorer (take that name out of context...), I guess built by the same people who did the Global Explorer (that yellow flying boat we had on this quiz earlier)
And that thing is bloated
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That’s the one Mex. Your turn.
James
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Open house
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Ok, no takers, so I'll post this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/15vvfDY0/xplane17.jpg)
Hopefully y'all will need some clues, and this will be somewhat of a challenge.
Here's clue #1 - The wings are unmistakable
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It looks like a Bell P-39 that was modified to be a movie plane not unlike the Willis JA-3 from the movie Chain Lightning.
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It did have a mid-mounted engine
And the wing and tailplane were from a WW II fighter - but not a P-39
Not a movie prop - but was never completed and never flew
You should’ve kept the JA-3 up your sleeve - I’d have never guessed there was a P-39 under there...
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Another clue - it had four very distinguishing features which were never installed
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the wing and tailplane were from a WW II fighter - but not a P-39
Rather a Spitfire Mk.XIV me thinks.
]cheers[
Mike
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Youthinks correctly. I have the feeling you know what this is, if you can be that specific...
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Another clue - this thing is as intended to be the South American cousin to the Curtiss X-19, with a German daddy
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.......Designed by Germans and built in Brazil using an American engine, British wings, and Swedish "wood on metal framed" propellers ?
I think you could say this is it's "father" (https://i.postimg.cc/XJwXsPXv/Fa269u-rv.jpg) ;)
G;
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Coincidentally I was reading an article today that highlighted on this very aircraft.
It’s a CTA Heliconair HC-1 Convertiplano and it was designed by none other than Heinrich Focke.
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Yep. The turn is yours
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Alright everybody, try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/PqV09WCn/EB643973-05-B3-4-E8-D-A6-AA-E171-CFF86208.jpg)
This should be relatively easy.
James
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Wheels are weird... but the rest makes me irresistibly think about a Piper Cub... am I right ?
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It is in fact a Piper Super Cub fitted with tandem wheeled gear for operations from rough fields. A few were sold to Israel for their spotter and liaison aircraft but overall the undercarriage was not widely adopted.
Your turn Gaston
James
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Thanks James !
So next ? Something easy, I guess :
(https://i.postimg.cc/KjsJB9pM/Quiquizz57.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Good night !
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Well that’s probably a Tumansky under that cowl so I’m gonna say that this is a Polikarpov I-180S
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The only right word is Polikarpov.
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Interesting
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Ah the Polikarpov Interesting, that's indeed and interesting aircraft!
]cheers[
Mike
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Yep. But no Tumansky... not 180S...
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Polikarpov I-185?
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Found this image of the Polikarpov I-185...
The front and background looks the same as Gaston's?
(https://i.postimg.cc/0QXB25HQ/I-185.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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How about this:
From wikipedia,
"On 13 May 1941 the NKAP ordered the OKO to convert a MiG-3 to use the Shvetsov ASh-82A radial engine then entering production. The resulting aircraft had a variety of names, including I-210, MiG-3-82, Samolyot IKh or Izdeliye 65. The design was a failure, but was promising enough to continue the program as the I-211."
(https://www.mediafire.com/file/j26w2u78rnezkpn/file)
(https://www.mediafire.com/file/daixiaf9ss9rfoa/file)
(https://www.mediafire.com/file/bkmitsqlko5fcaf/file)
]cheers[
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Sorry, guys... I was on holidays, with my tablet not working... only back home today. Liguria was so nice ! And food delicious.
So... seems Graeme and Bwf. have it !
It is a Polikarpov I-185-M-82.
Here is the full picture :
(https://i.postimg.cc/V6brgwsJ/Polikarpov-I-185-M82.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I would say Graeme had it first. So he has hand too.
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Cheers Gaston.
Plan view to try...
(https://i.postimg.cc/wMbZFW2j/Mystery.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Valmet Vihuri?
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That's him LameHawk. ]thumleft[
(https://i.postimg.cc/2S6PB0d8/Scan0369.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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This may be a bit obscure.
(https://i.postimg.cc/13VYKtd1/SASQuiz91.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It may be obscure, but I’m familiar with it.
Gerbrecht W.3
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It may be obscure, but I’m familiar with it.
Gerbrecht W.3
More info on the W.3 here:http:
www.airwar.ru/enc/cw1/gerbrechtw3.html
]cheers[
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That was quick!
Over to you, James
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Thanks Lame.
Try this one guys:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJszyQrw/AE1676-FF-EA90-4-CE3-B0-A8-3-AC2-C591-BCC5.jpg)
James
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What a strange hood for a Provost
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It’s not a Provost and never was one.
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It looks a wee bit like a Chipmunk but the tail and canopy say it isn't.
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Trees don't look British.
How about a Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation CA-25 Winjeel?
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It’s not a Provost and never was one.
My bad. I look forward to the discernible differences. :)
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Good job Lame!
You found my hint with those hawk like eyes of yours.
It is in fact a Winjeel! They’re wonderful flying aircraft. If you ever get the chance to have some stick time in one, I highly recommend the experience. Much more docile than a Piper and able to handle gusts much better than a Texan.
Your turn buddy!
James
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I would have loved to have seen swarms of these aircraft
(https://i.postimg.cc/2yM7nG3M/SASQuiz92.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The Belyayev DB-LK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belyayev_DB-LK
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That's right, Graeme. ;)
You are in control.
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Thanks LM.
Try this...
(https://i.postimg.cc/kX5zBs6X/What.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Ancient Cylon, pretty early version.
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This is the nose of a photo-reconnaissance version of a very well known aircraft.
Wiki say says close to 2,000 in all versions were built.
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I’m just spitballing here but is it an Entendard IVP/IVM?
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The Etendard made me think of something else.
Hawker Hunter?
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Hawker Hunter?
That'll do nicely. :)
(https://i.postimg.cc/GtjQVB4P/1200px-Hawker-Hunter-FGA-17528899686.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Not too easy that was.
Now for something else.
(https://i.postimg.cc/2S4D3ZpT/SASQuiz93.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Not a D.XXI is it?
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It most certainly is!
Some of the Danish D.XXIs were equipped with 20mm Madsen cannon.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sXpSQ8HL/D-XXI.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Would have been quite a match for the 110s that paid an unexpected visit - if they had ever left the ground.
(https://i.postimg.cc/02H6QP2Q/image211.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
So your turn, mex
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I’ll pass for now -
Open house
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Time for something dead simple:
(https://i.postimg.cc/K8BgWdCF/quest.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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~snip~
Haven't seen it this page so I'ma say it anyways.
F-35
[FAC]Ghost129er runs away at lightning speed.
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The mighty Tupolev Tu-98 Backfin.
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Graeme got it, your turn!
]cheers[
Mike
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Cheers Mike.
Another nose...
(https://i.postimg.cc/rstqRvdR/Quiz.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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You guys and photos of your holes... ;D
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Italian.
Twin pusher.
Only one built, which now resides in a museum in Trento.
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Well then... this would mean it'd have to be the Caproni Ca.193
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caproni_Ca.193
]cheers[
Mike
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That's him Mike. ]thumright[
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Thanks Graeme.
Try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/HLRk0wC8/questc.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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A German Ivy Leaguer?
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Yep, you could put it that way.
]cheers[
Mike
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Bulgarian?
DAR-10F?
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Eh... no not at all. Neither nor.
]cheers[
Mike
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Ex-Armée de l'air North American BT-14 Yale being evaluated by Luftwaffe pilots after capture. You reversed the image, that’s why the exhaust is coming out the wrong side.
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I could be nitpicking now James and say that the description of the original image says that it's an NA-64 (and the wing shape indicates that's true), but since they're really hard to distinguish, I'll say "close enough" and hand over the baton to you!
]cheers[
Mike
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Thanks Mike,
I now submit to evidence this rotund creation from the late 30’s:
(https://i.postimg.cc/R07YLZqk/1-A8-A38-B6-20-B3-426-B-8425-90-EB43-D7-BF92.jpg)
Good luck,
James
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Total stab in the dark - is this a Ryan?
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Afraid not...
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Paulic XTC-3.
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I’ll give it to you Graeme even though you got the designation wrong.
It’s XT3-B and then later in 1939 is was re-designated T-3B-1.
James
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Thanks James.
Open House.
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Since no one has stepped up to the plate yet, I will do the duty.
Try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/R0H8YCVr/81-BBA12-B-A482-4-BF4-A2-C4-6-D3-B0-A103-B00.jpg)
James
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Can't say I've run into this one before.
Seems to be a Brown-Young BY-1
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I love giving you guys stuff that you’ve never seen or heard of and of course, yes, Lame has guessed correctly.
Your turn buddy,
James
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According to Google, this is a propeller driven aircraft.
But I don't think is should be too difficult.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sfqcsKkK/SASQuiz94.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hurel-Dubois HD-34
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Mmmmh... saw this one in airshows, way back in the '80s, if I remember correctly...
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OK, James. Couldn't be more correct.
Back to you ;D
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Alright then,
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bv8nY0h8/66-D82879-5373-4867-A83-A-7-FDACF5-E82-F3.jpg)
I hope that you get enjoyment out of my aircraft choices.
James
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The Breese-Dallas Model 1.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breese-Dallas_Model_1
Or in a source on the Spanish Civil War - the Breese-Dallas Racer.
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Also known in certain circles as the “Model X”
Your turn Graeme.
James
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Thanks James.
(https://i.postimg.cc/rsN3TjBg/Scan0382.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Extremely obscure, but I think I've found it.
French aircraft from 1960.
Jidey J-13 Flash
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]thumright[
That's him. Over to you mate.
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Thank you.
Another nice plane
(https://i.postimg.cc/dV3J00GR/SASQuiz95.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I'm quite sure we've had that cheesy thing before 8)
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Ah, memory - or rather lack of it.
In which case, open house.
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Something not as graceful as the P-16 above.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5yZhVffz/Spat.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Caproni Ca.122
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Indeed it is James. ]thumright[
Over to you.
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Alright boys,
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/nhcGywyb/7-A87-CAA4-8-A15-4922-82-D7-8-C894-FC6-C4-CA.jpg)
James
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Doman LZ-5?
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Correct. One of my favorite projects I’ve worked on.
This is her now:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kzs3tNZ6/A9-A86-D34-0-CD3-48-EB-80-BC-41072638426-F.jpg)
Your turn Graeme.
James
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Another rotor...
(https://i.postimg.cc/VNmhxRpB/Rotor-hub.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Is that a French rotor?
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Not French.
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Thats BS :D
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Thats BS :D
Indeed it is. Bristol Sycamore.
Over to you Loku...
(https://i.postimg.cc/XvHvTg4G/20200225-115654.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Thaks Graeme, there is still one of them flying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9CgUis12GQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9CgUis12GQ)
And this is a new ridle.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bvm2qxSt/easyone.jpg)
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Yak-100
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Yes, this was a tricky one, Yak-100 was only a prototype "genuine" soviet design, resemblance to R-5 is "pure coincidence" :).
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I guess that means it’s my turn.
Try this thing:
(https://i.postimg.cc/4yhKLSGT/BA40-A20-F-91-E2-4-DA5-B9-FA-A8-C070161503.jpg)
James
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The Bratukhin B-10.
http://airwar.ru/enc/uh/b10.html
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Nice job Graeme.
On to you.
James
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Thanks James.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DZkXjMgz/BB.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Total shot in the dark here, is it a Neptune?
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Excellent night-shooting. Neptune it is. ]thumright[
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I’m surprised that that’s right.
Try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/HLHBbXCz/C4-E274-F3-0-B20-47-D9-9173-7-F881118-FC5-D.jpg)
James
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Obviously looks like a Ford or Hamilton product - anything to that? What are I the front of the spats? (Which unusually seem to be attached to the fuselage)
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Not a Ford or a Hamilton. The holes in the spat fairings contain the landing lights and they are not attached directly to the fuselage despite looks.
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That forward tilted windscreen look italian to me.
]cheers[
Mike
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From Aerofiles?
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Graeme, that’s not where I got it but if it exists, it probably exists on aerofiles.
Mike, not Italian.
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If it's not italian, then it has to be french.
]cheers[
Mike
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Not French either.
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Romanian?
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Nope
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Klingon?
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You’ve hit bottom huh?
I’ve stumped the unstumpable.
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I'm quite sure I've seen that plane before, but can't remember where and when.
]cheers[
Mike
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As a courtesy to your jumbled minds, I’ll put this picture here as “help.”
It depicts the same aircraft from a different angle. It may help you or it may stump you further.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9M3Yh08N/D484-C16-C-F9-AF-400-C-BD64-9-B9-E50244-AD6.jpg)
James
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Graeme, that’s not where I got it but if it exists, it probably exists on aerofiles.
I've never had a great deal of success with the search engine on Aerofiles, but I believe with adding the word "corrugated" it narrowed it down to thirteen choices.
The biggest problem is despite the search there is not always an associated photo.
But I got lucky this morning, this looks to be the machine....
(https://i.postimg.cc/jSvRhWpd/Answer.png) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tT6087M6/craw-clm01.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That would be the one. I own the only remaining piece of this aircraft. One of the landing lights.
Good job Graeme, your turn.
James
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Thanks James.
I'm more than happy for someone else to have a turn.
Cheers.
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Thought I would revive this excellent thread.....but cheating a bit 'cos I've no idea what these are. I thought Tempest, but they are Naval?
Scan taken from my wife's Grandad's album. He was Military Controller of Ports during the last World War, so presume he was involved in the transportation depicted here.
I'm sure the experten here will put me right :)
(https://i.postimg.cc/J7bRHVZz/Tempest-0002.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/CKf3yk4x/Tempest-0001.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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These were my last two Fifi's approach results.
Quest solved!
]cheers[
Mike
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First looks like a Sea Fury, second a Firefly. Looks like they were recovered from forced landings
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Yeah, first is definitely a Sea Fury. Can't really see the second.
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I think the second one is a Fulmar with its wings folded judging by the size of the horizontal stab, the thickness of the wings, and the shape of the air intake below the nose (engine is definitely a Merlin as opposed to a Griffon as in a Firefly).
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I have to disagree with James, sorry to say.
- It's plain to see that the photos have been taken at the very same spot, similar viewpoint, probably at the same time.
Would be quite surprising to see a Fulmar and not a Firefly following a Sea Fury on that road.
This was as if germans would put a broken 262 with a 109C on the same train. - The shape of the air intake below the nose?
Well you can't see much of it, but what you can see never fits to a Fulmar, but would fit to an early Firefly (e.g. FR Mk.I). - The engine's exhaust pipes give away that it's never ever a Fulmar. Fits to an early Firefly again though.
- The horizontal stab is too high for a Fulmar (would need to be several inches below the fuselage back chord), but fits for a Firefly.
Conclusion: Sea Fury and Firefly.
]cheers[
Mike
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Looking further, it would appear that you are correct. Cheers Mike.
James
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I knew I could count on you lot! :) The date of this photo album is 1947. Susan's G'dad was stationed in Southampton post war.
I wonder if these are therefore being transported for scrap or instructional airframes. Shame the re. no. is indiscernible.
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Looks like this stalled completely.
Guess this one:
(https://i.ibb.co/MMmmDdk/quest-2021-08-02.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Pure guess on my part........Potez? :-|
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eh... no :P
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Looks like a NiD-121 to me .. one of the most modern fighters if the early 30ies...
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Spot on, your turn Phil ;)
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Here we go...
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQ8GPvM4/Hall-XPTBH-2-in-flight.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Now if that's not an F-35... James?
]cheers[
Mike
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I believe it is a HALL XPTBH.
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...and we have a winner :)
Imagine a squadron if these things charging into a CAP of Zeroes.
Interesting concept but very flawed and outdated, in a time where even the TBD was essentially obsoletenoncenit reachesd squadrons in strength
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It would fill the role the HE-115 or Fokker TVIII did. Could fly along with the "Black Cat" PBY.
Anyways, Open House. I got nothing.
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Very easy iconic plane in my country...
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4rGzfYR/1628007235012.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hawker FB.60? One of the last versions of the Sea Fury, IMHO.
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Absolutely not an F-35. I'm lost.
]cheers[
Mike
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Hawker FB.60? One of the last versions of the Sea Fury, IMHO.
Yes Sea fury Cuban Air Force
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Sorry, I was overwhelmed by work.. Did I nail it?
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Well, since the thread seems quiet, and I just noticed it's my turn, I'll try to revive it...
I recently stumbled on this book in an Italian bookstore:
I thought that the cover picture could be an interesting challenge!
(https://i.postimg.cc/C5smGShz/a0ea3e26d9530a8765db68a4d154323c.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Must be the Douglas B-18 Bolo
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It is!
Your turn LameHawk :)
Cheers
H
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Thank you.
What's this?
(https://i.postimg.cc/3xV88Y50/SASQuiz100.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That would be the SNCASE SE-1010
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I knew I could count on you!
Indeed it is, so your turn.
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Thanks Lame,
Let’s see what you guys can make of this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/pTGyb7mL/1337-F049-A452-4017-94-EF-EDC49-B0-A911-F.jpg)
Have fun…
James
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Kaman?
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Funny to see how similar the shape is to an Arado 234 ;)
]cheers[
Mike
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Flying Banana?
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Mex was the closest so I’ll give it to him.
That is the Kaman HOK-1 that I am restoring.
Here is a much better view of her:
(https://i.postimg.cc/qvDKgmzp/08303148-1-E0-D-4-F46-8-BA4-DA78342377-CD.jpg)
So Mexchiwa, on to you.
James
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What a freaky design ]clown[
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It's definitely a strange bird :o
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I wasn’t trying to get it, just thought it was a Kaman. They were used a lot for aircrew rescue, right?
Anyway, I haven’t been to this thread in a while, but open house
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Hello all,
It seems that this thread has been dead for a trifle long. Hopefully it is revivable.
Try this one on for size:
(https://i.postimg.cc/K8Fm5hp8/55-D878-D5-3-C8-B-457-C-A65-D-ACE718-A20-B9-D.jpg)
James/PvF
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Think I've seen this before.
American, thirties.
Better have a look
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Pretty much an F-35, isn't it?
]cheers[
Mike
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Sikorsky S-39?
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Sikorsky XSS-2
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Actually I think it's one of those new German F-35s.
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The answer was the Sikorsky XSS-2.
It’s your turn Wolfosito!
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I'm gonna try not post anything too rare, for now
(https://i.postimg.cc/3JHKHP3F/Screenshot-2022-05-08-115729.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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That’s got to be a Beriev Be-12N
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Searching for the Moskva? :P
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Yup, Be-12
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Thanks Wolfosito,
Here’s the next mystery:
(https://i.postimg.cc/7YLsV3Vt/E7-B576-B6-67-B7-46-AA-B043-CD41-ADE40-A8-B.jpg)
Good luck….
James
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Japanese, 4 blade prop, biplane, floats...
Definitely a F-2
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Kawanishi E7K
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The guy crawling to the lower right wingtip is サトシ (Satoshi).
He used to feel dizzy when the floats barely left water.
]cheers[
Mike
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I’ll give it to you Lame,
I was looking for E7K1 since the one pictured has the 620-hp Hiro Type 91 W-12, but you got close enough….lol
You’re up.
James
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Thanks for forgiving my sloppiness. I'll try to do better next time. ;D
Of course I'll also expect precision here. Things aren't necessarily exactly what they seem.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qqHdL4VZ/SASQuiz001.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Letov L-290 Orel (Eagle) from Czechoslovakia. I couldn't find anymore definitive detailed information (model/variant) since only one was built.
Fascinating choice LameHawk! My initial thought was some kind of Ju-90/290 (which was... partially correct, windows didn't look right among other things). I started thinking maybe it was French and the FW-190 in the background was a SNCAC NC.900. The FW-190 probably is an FW-190 since the propellers from -190s were used on the L-290. I google image searched Ju-90 (not reverse image search, that is for cheaters) and after a minute the exact photo popped up and boy what a roller coaster of knowledge that was. I had no idea Czechoslovakia used one after the war (I knew the Spanish did, a quick look at the wikipedia reveal the Czech's did too). Makes sense, they were built there. Maybe in 3 days dsawan will make a request about it (sarcasm). I don't care about my turn, anybody can go in my stead.
https://www.armedconflicts.com/Letov-L-290-Orel-t54230
https://www.tresbohemes.com/2018/07/the-letov-l-290-orel-maneuvering-through-prague/
https://ininet.org/armstrong-whitworth-albemarle-in-soviet-service.html?page=10 (Site is weird to navigate)
Major assemblies of the Ju 290 four-engined transport and reconnaissance aircraft were built by Letov at Prague-Ruzyne during WWII, although final assembly of the type remained in Germany. After the end of the war, several of those assemblies were left at the Ruzyne factory. So it was decided to complete one Ju 290 as a 40/48 seat airliner. The aircraft received the designation Letov L-290 "Orel" (eagle). It underwent trials, but did not find favour with either the state airline CSA or the Czechoslovakian military. So the L-290 was abandoned in 1947 after only 43 flying hours, although it was not actually scrapped until 1956.
11 0212 no reg L-290 Letov f/f 01aug46 c/n also given as 290/0212; rebuild of an unfinished Ju 290A-8 with parts from a Ju 290B; in light greenish grey c/s, no markings apart from Czechoslovakian flag on fin; wfu in 1947 with t/t 43 hours; scrapped in 1956
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I did go for a precise answer.
Your answer is pretty impressive - and correct of course. Not to mention, quick!
So basically it's your turn. Sure you don't have anything lying around?
If not, the new challenge is up for grabs
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I guess I'll go then
(https://i.postimg.cc/W310TDNk/20191025160910376.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/HLHQvZF3/20191025160910456.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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What a coincidence!
I was just reading about this one in a book today.
That’s got to be the Shishmarev MK-1 Rybka
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Yup, MK-1
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Thanks Wolf,
This should be an easy one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/DzN1Mkd3/59-C2819-A-0970-4399-B4-F7-ACC9-B59-FE2-F4.jpg)
Good luck.
James
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You may inadvertently have turned the picture upside down.
Or perhaps been doing a headstand whilst operating the computer.
Heh!
Anyway, my guess is a Kamov 26
(https://i.postimg.cc/DwLMtD7W/Kamov-Ka-26-505-Hungarian-Air-Force.webp) (https://postimages.org/)
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The angle to them made me think kamov, but I completely forgot about the 26
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Lame,
The image reversal was intentional.
Anything to throw you guys off the trail.
Good job on the sleuth work Lame.
It’s your turn.
James
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Thank you.
An elderly one which might be slightly tricky.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yYXVwZZs/SASQuiz002.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtkf9hj5)
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Hey James,
Thanks for resurrecting this thread. Although I've never contributed to it, it is one of my favorites.
And thanks to all of you guys who do contribute to it.
Dave
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The image reversal was intentional.
Anything to throw you guys off the trail.
James
I say....sneaky underhand and not cricket Old Boy! ;D
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Dear Dave,
It’s my absolute pleasure!
And BD,
It may be underhanded and might not be cricket, but never did I say that I was opposed to sneaky behavior. I need to preserve my standing in the quest somehow….. :P
Lame,
Is that A Heinkel He-8 with a Bristol Mercury? I recognize the stripes on the tail as belonging to the Royal Yugoslav Navy. I know they operated exactly 1 He-8.
James
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Knowing that Yugoslavia had a single He-8 is rather impressive.
You are absolutely right.
It is a He-8d, which for some reason also carried the designation HE/J.
The engine though is a 480 HP Gnôme Rhône Jupiter. Slightly more powerful than the original Armstrong-Siddeley Jaguar.
The plane was taken over by the Germans and was lost in the Suda Bay during the battle of Crete.
Back to you!
BTW I doctor the pictues as well. If someone "cheats" by doing a simple picture search, I find that "not cricket".
So just to keep weak souls from falling into that trap, well...
Dilemma.
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And BD,
It may be underhanded and might not be cricket, but never did I say that I was opposed to sneaky behavior. I need to preserve my standing in the quest somehow….. :P
You, sir, are a Cad and a Bounder Sirrah! And if I ever get UP3 to work again (considering my technical ineptitude) I will call you out, so I will! :)
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I look forward to that day good sir!
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I guess it’s my time to throw you all for a loop.
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/pdT2gdyw/6-B131-D12-8-D03-41-F2-B6-C7-BB261-A770095.jpg)
Have fun and good luck.
James
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Dewoitine D720 I think?
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Sorry for the delay. :P
Right you are Wolfosito!
Your turn.
James
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(https://i.postimg.cc/xCstKtGH/quiz.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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H.P. Manx?
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Yup, H.P. 75
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OK what about this one?
(https://i.postimg.cc/QxsczjKm/index.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Italian boomerang
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Chu XP-0
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Chu XP-0
Correct, specifically the second prototype!
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Stalled again eh?
Guess this one:
(https://i.ibb.co/3WR5SRN/quest.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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BF-109-E-7
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Behind the wheel, yes.
Now the foreground one please 8)
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Is that the Tempest? Not 100% sure if it was called like that
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And the baton goes to... *drum roll* ...Wolfosito!
Indeed, that's a mock up of the BAE Systems Tempest (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Tempest).
]cheers[
Mike
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I prefer his WW2 ancestor...
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(https://i.postimg.cc/GpsPpJbf/ah64apache.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Now with those colours on the fan and with such a distinctive tail wheel, hit me if that ain't a Kamov.
]cheers[
Mike
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Yup, Ka-60
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Well then, looks like we need new quest pic fresh from the shelf.
How about this one?
(https://i.ibb.co/tYK4Q08/quest.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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I know that one, F-22 Raptor, Only 187 is still Operational.
Best Regards KT503
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Now that's plain wrong KT.
Not only that this isn't an F-22, you also got the number of operational F-22s wrong.
]cheers[
Mike
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F-35?
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Damn. You got me. I was mistaken. It was F-35
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F-35?
Bingo!
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Here's one I drive past a few times a year.
(https://i.postimg.cc/6QvYkxn9/Screenshot-20220727-212401-Earth.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3y3XG6t6)
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AW.660 Argosy
Leaving next one for whoever wants it
if it is
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AW.660 Argosy
Correct
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How about this one?
(https://i.ibb.co/KrLJN5C/quest.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Looks like B-17 'Sally B' to me.
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Right so, in it's "Memphis Belle" dress.
Your turn Andy.
]cheers[
Mike
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Hmmmm...
(https://i.postimg.cc/J4FKLJSw/9bdf858aff84e2f5fa3bd0d82a2da513-a.jpg)
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It looks like the four 20mm cannon nose mounting on the Westland Whirlwind fighter.
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Correct!
Over to you, larschance. :)
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I am posting this on behalf of Larschance (it is his picture):
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8LsW3h5/Lars-Quest-Pic.png) (https://postimg.cc/bZY8Dbxf)
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Not actually my picture but what aircraft is being worked on.
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Oh, I thought for sure that was you climbing the ladder!
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I would say B29 ?
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Yes Chrival you are correct. Your turn.
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This thread has stalled for a looooooong while, let's try to breath some life into it.
Guess this :D
(https://i.ibb.co/q0jXptM/887.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Junkers Ju 52/3m ...?
Die erste einmotorige Ju hatte eine eckige Motorverkleidung. Darum mein Raten.
]cheers[
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Wait... you know other planes than 109s?
]cheers[
Mike
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Wait... you know other planes than 109s?
One or two, maximum three. :)) ]cheers[
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So I'll give that quest to you.
Indeed it's a Ju 52/3m, in particular this one: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_52/3m_D-AQUI
]cheers[
Mike
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Don't know if a question like this is allowed according to the rules.
So I try it once:
Who is painting on which aircraft?
(https://i.ibb.co/rp2nrFR/Who-paint-here-on-what.jpg)
]cheers[
Gerhard
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Gerhard,
I believe that that is Siegfried Schnell painting kill marks on his Fw-190A.
James
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... Joseph "Sepp" Wurmheller ... ;)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XJVVzc2X/Joseph-Wurmheller.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DWMkWs3K)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RV3vy0T1/2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LnpdZ2wh)
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Ahh damn, guess I was pretty far off…
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No! This is not a boss from one of the classic arcade games Raiden, 1942 or Strikers 1945.
Apologies if this has already be done.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xC8qHyMG/russian1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0tq1Ggj/russian2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1RkYVPV/russian3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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F-35?
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That classic artsy Ace-Combat-y render of a Kaliningrad K-7 that made the rounds on the internet all those years ago?
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Heavy Bomber K7 correct.
When I first saw these pictures I thought surely this can't be real and was going to post asking so.
The short text that accompanies the pictures convinced me it was, unless someone tells me it isn't.
You can read the text and see other interesting aircraft pictures at the link below and clicking the Interesting Pictures tab on the left hand side.
https://www.22squadronassociation.org.au/
22 Squadron was the only RAAF squadron to fly Bostons.
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I can confirm that none of those images are real. They are complete fabrications of an otherwise real aircraft that was very flawed in design.
As a note; The actual Kalinin only had 7 engines and was never fitted with any heavy armament except for a few machine guns for testing service viability (which ultimately proved too costly and impractical)
Here is the real aircraft: A much smaller yet still mildly impressive aircraft with some serious vibration issues.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Qd3gRQwb/K71.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rwNGcdLL/K72.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KYcPYZZ3/K73.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/CKvjBW1P/K74.jpg)
I really wish people would stop parroting obviously fake images as if they were real. I thought we were better that this in this day and age.
Sincerely,
James/PvF
IRL Aviation Restorer, Archivist, and Curator
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... Joseph "Sepp" Wurmheller ...
Hello Mick,
I haven't been here on this site for a long time - sorry.
Of course you are right about Sepp Wurmheller!
Congratulations and greetings.
Gerhard :)
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The actual Kalinin only had 7 engines and was never fitted with any heavy armament except for a few machine guns for testing service viability (which ultimately proved too costly and impractical)
Here is the real aircraft: A much smaller yet still mildly impressive aircraft with some serious vibration issues.
Interesting kite.
Regarding the vibration issues, initially the O.G.P.U. (Soviet secret police) investigators apparently considered the competing design office of Andrei Tupolev to be involved in some kind of sabotage.
The later official report determined that the structure of the tail booms (one of which failed) was sufficiently strong, but that oscillations induced by aerodynamic flutter led to the failure.
I would like to believe the later statement about "natural frequencies of structures and their response to vibration" if only there was any source available as to how they came to that conclusion, considering the (natural) lack of construction details available.
]cheers[
Mike
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Real shame, could you imagine the multiplayer fun grabbing a couple of mates and taking down one of these while also battling escorts.
Like a X-Wing taking on the Imperial Fleet.
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What I find really interesting is the undercarriage design of the K-7. It's like a huge floatplane with wheels or a tricycle configuration aircraft without nose wheel. Seems to be quite a unique solution. Does anyone know of any airplane with a similar design?
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Looks like we got stuck again, time to revive the thread.
Before you start yelling: Yes, we all know that this is a Concorde.
The question is: What's so special about this particular picture? Can you tell the story behind?
(https://i.ibb.co/bdsRjj3/concorde-ta.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Apparently, if I am not mistaken, we see Earth curvature in the picture.
If so, this picture was taken at a very high altitude, at which Concorde was supersonic:
And from his supposition, what is the aircraft used to take this picture? An another Concorde? A jet fighter?
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First use of the BA Landor livery?
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If so, this picture was taken at a very high altitude, at which Concorde was supersonic:
And from his supposition, what is the aircraft used to take this picture? An another Concorde? A jet fighter?
You're on a good path.
Hint: You can buy a signed copy of this picture for £145.00.
]cheers[
Mike
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If so, this picture was taken at a very high altitude, at which Concorde was supersonic:
And from his supposition, what is the aircraft used to take this picture? An another Concorde? A jet fighter?
You're on a good path.
Hint: You can buy a signed copy of this picture for £145.00.
]cheers[
Mike
Don't tell me it was from a SR71! o_O
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Not quite.
From an SR-71 you would have all the time it takes to get the perfect picture, but would end up with none taken since almost certainly you wouldn't be able to handle a decent camera and get a good angle to start with.
The particular aircraft where this picture got taken from could keep up with the Concorde for exactly four minutes.
]cheers[
Mike
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Only known photo of Concorde flying supersonic taken by a RAF Tornado.
Read more here,
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/heres-the-only-picture-of-concorde-flying-at-supersonic-speed/amp/
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Exactly :D
The baton goes to genXgamer, congratulations!
]cheers[
Mike
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(https://i.postimg.cc/wvRTgvhv/Clipboard-3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Image Credit - ADF Serials
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Australian ?
Makes me think about another plane, but the other has a radial engine...
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Yes the aircraft is Australian.
What would be the radial engine aircraft you are thinking of?
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Was thinking about the CA-6 Wackett... but it has a radial engine.
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Miles Magister
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Was thinking about the CA-6 Wackett... but it has a radial engine.
Good hint.
Looks like there's a predecessor to it, the CA-2 Wackett prototype with Gypsy Major (aft plane) / Six (front plane, 2nd prototype) inline engines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC_Wackett
(No pictures of the prototypes on Wiki unfortunately)
]cheers[
Mike
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De Havilland Chipmunk (although the tail doesn't look right)
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De Havilland Chipmunk (although the tail doesn't look right)
That was my first thought too, but DH Chipmunk is Canadian, not Australian...
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Sorry guys, while answers were coming through I was sleeping.
It seems Gaston was on to it from the get go, backed up by Mike.
Indeed the two aircraft pictured are the first two prototypes CA-2 serials A3-1 and A3-2 of the Wackett Trainer fitted with Gipsy Major engines.
The engines would be replaced with Warner Super Scarab radial engines.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Vvw1wN7j/Clipboard-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Image Credit - ADF Serials
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Nice choice.
Time for something new then, isn't it?
If Gaston wants to take the bacon, I will withdraw this of course.
(https://i.ibb.co/cLn1xZr/hu211-ta.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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No, no, Storebror... take it ! I have no idea for the moment...
Anyway... is your proposition a Junkers ???
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Not quite. I mean... in a way yes, but officially it's not.
]cheers[
Mike
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What the?!
It looks like a Ju388 nose and engine fronts joined to part of a Ju488/288 fuselage, with a butterfly tail plane.
Never seen/read this being refered to, is it just officially a P numbered project, but obviously by Junkers?
Cheers
Shessi
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Yes, it's a prototype.
Yes, the nose design is borrowed from the 388, nacelle design is borrowed from the He 219 and most other parts are borrowed from the Ju 288.
Nevertheless, this is not a Junkers project.
And to answer the next obvious question, it's not a Heinkel project either.
]cheers[
Mike
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Hmmmm...possibly a Focke-Wulf project then, and if so, maybe a Kurt Tank one? One of the 'Schnell Bomber' proposals?
If it didn't have the Balkenkreuz on the side, then possibly a post war Russian bitsa ac?
Shessi
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Not Focke-Wulf, not Kurt Tank, definitely not russian 8)
Not a Schnellbomber proposal either.
]cheers[
Mike
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Agggggggg!!
I know a 'Stor-t-ebror-ke'...lol
Well then, possibly Messerschmitt or Dornier then. Messerschmitt had quite a few projects with a butterfly tails....or?
S
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Neither Messerschmidt nor Dornier, sorry.
]cheers[
Mike
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Is that German, anyway ???
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Oh yes, absolutely.
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How about a Hütter 211....
S
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Bingo!
It's the first version of the Hü 211, the one that's derived from the Ju 388.
2nd version switched to a He 219 based design.
The baton is yours, Shessi. Congratulations ]thumbsup[
]cheers [
Mike
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Old but not that old...... ;)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3R1tjydx/Dont-cheat.png) (https://postimg.cc/5YH5b2Bh)
Cheers
Shessi
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An aircraft belonging to the Finnish Air Force?
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Possibly.......;)
S
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One of three French Caudron C.59 biplanes purchased by Finland.
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Yes, give that man a cigar! :D
Over to you G....
Cheers
Shessi
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(https://i.postimg.cc/sxXn91Lt/CAC-CA-31-4.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Aussie Hawker?
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Hawker P.1103?
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F-35? 8)
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So It was clear that this was a full scale model but I was in doubt if it was a british or french design as it had some characteristics from Hawker planes but the wing was similar to the Mirage finally this was an Aussie concept trainer the CA-31 that actually was never built https://eamonh.wordpress.com/2014/01/03/the-ca-31-the-best-little-jet-trainer-that-never-was/
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Correct!
Perhaps not in the spirit that Mike intended for this topic, but it did make it from a design on paper to a full sized mockup.
You can read an article and view the intended specifications here.
https://www.aarg.com.au/ca31.html
Your turn Frankiek
(https://i.postimg.cc/hGssfq2f/07-09-2014-CA31-007-Brendan-Cowan-0037-me.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8PvqsjMc/07-09-2014-CA31-007-Brendan-Cowan-0050-me.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tT7cbT9X/CAC-C-31-5.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Perhaps not in the spirit that Mike intended for this topic
Don't worry about that.
The only intention is to keep the quest running 8)
]cheers[
Mike
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24 hours has elapsed so I am continuing the Quest by posting a new (easier) pic.
(https://i.postimg.cc/MHm78YgC/Strat.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vxDgr5Yh)
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The Stratolaunch, the "biggest" plane
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Yes mate
That was quick, would you like to continue the Quest?
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhSKCk3R/images-8.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Bloody hell! That IS big!
I've seen pics of it flying but not in comparison with people/hangar, great first pic.
Cheers
Shessi
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Yes mate
That was quick, would you like to continue the Quest?
I've got to find something first lol
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Ok found one, a little obscure
(https://i.postimg.cc/RVr38Mrc/20230821-215323.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Really looks like some of ours good old "frankens"
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I'm goin' to say 750XL-II SUPERPAC or something very close.
Made by a New Zealand company called NZSkydive Ltd.
Here's a rather cool looking one that was given to PNG.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fW58LVkX/1690528282118.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pdxjzB6d/1690528280205.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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You gotbit! You're turn now
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(https://i.postimg.cc/GpVcNfS3/1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Image Credit - ADF Serials
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With the help of Google:
UC-64 Noorduyn Norseman
Flying pick up truck.
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Yep, a Canadian aircraft.
Your turn pied.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/m29b6yKm/images.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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As I played BoS / Flying Circus a couple of moons ago, it is obvious that this is a Siemens-Schuckert.
Flying Circus has the D.IV in the set, but this one's a D.III as can be seen by the wing struts which show the deeper wings of the D.III compared to the D.IV.
]cheers[
Mike
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Nicely done Mike!
You are up.
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Here's an aircraft manufacturer that instantly comes to mind when we think of WW2.
(https://i.postimg.cc/x8gkpSP1/img09.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Image Credit - Geoff Goodall's Aviation History
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Messerschmitt M27 i think, but not sure
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I think it is a Ryan STM, possibly build here in San Diego though this looks like an RAAF variant.
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Damn that was quick von!
Ryan STM-2 or S2? (Sport Trainer Military).
Originally purchased by the Dutch, like a number of their aircraft and personnel they found their way into RAAF service.
I think you'll all agree it is a handsome looking aircraft which is why a number of them survived post war and still fly today.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bN34mC2v/Clipboard-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1fVWtKBx)
Image Credit - NZ Warbirds Association
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Love this plane. I love this thread too and have lurked here for years but I suck at knowing the planes. I've lived in San Diego Ca though since 1975 and had a lot of interaction with the Ryan company and its offspring. Any way, let's identify this one.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Xv5hMTpy/Screen-Hunter-954.png) (https://postimg.cc/Z9TjpsPT)
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Ryan S-C (Sports Coupe)
The Ryan S-C (Sports-Coupe) was an American three-seat cabin monoplane designed and
built by the Ryan Aeronautical Company. At least one was impressed into service with the
United States Army Air Forces as the L-10.
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Correct. Well done Flamer. Give us a good picture.
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This may have been posted in the past, if so, here it is again:
(https://i.postimg.cc/xnxbCbXp/Mystery-Plane.jpg)
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Capelis XC-12
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You are correct Whitesnake' ]thumleft[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capelis_XC-12
Now it's your turn for a new one.
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One of my favorit aircraft 8)
Shouldnt be to hard to guess this one.
(https://i.postimg.cc/mZmqSmvd/2158-078292.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hj7BY9s5)
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P-3 orion/L-188 Electra
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Royal Netherlands Navy P-3 Orion, so your right. 301 got upgraded, painted in a gloss grey and was shortly after (2005?) sold to Germany and became 60+01, as far as i know she remains in use untill shes replaced by the P-8 Poseidon in 2025.
Dutch Orions where stationed at Valkenburg (Katwijk, Hato (Curacao) and Iceland.
Basicly the ones that where updated where sold to Germany, the ones that still awaited there updates where sold to Portugal.
L-188 is the aircraft it was based on, but from nose to tail its a difrent aircraft.
So geuss its your turn now @ZtheE Studios
EDIT:
(https://i.postimg.cc/cJQMM4qj/Schermopname-21-105042.png) (https://postimg.cc/CZxqw0xH)
Made the old 301 for MSFS, and the 302 in its last grey livery, sadly i cant figure out how to get the (satin) gloss effect to properly come out.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/C1XW29gw/img002.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Image Credit - Geoff Goodall's Aviation History
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(https://i.postimg.cc/C1XW29gw/img002.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Dolphin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Dolphin
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Correct, Douglas Dolphin
The above example belonged to Australasian Petroleum Company and operated throughout New Guinea pre-war.
With the outbreak of war it was donated to the Australian Government.
Your turn mate
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(https://i.postimg.cc/xTvJChTK/images-8.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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F-35 ?
apologies to Mike ;)
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My response to Mike would of been.
Be more specific, which variant?
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(https://i.postimg.cc/xTvJChTK/images-8.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Volocopter - Voloregion
https://www.volocopter.com/solutions/
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(https://i.postimg.cc/cH7xdS1h/1-guess.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
A bit blurry picture should make it harder te geuss i hope.
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G'day Whitesnake
You jumped the gun mate, your answer is actually incorrect.
No problem you can continue on.
Correct answer drone on steroids VOLOCONNECT.
(https://i.postimg.cc/SQXWQCD6/Volocopter-Volo-Connect-Flying-Past-scaled-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bkCmGvh)
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G'day Whitesnake
You jumped the gun mate, your answer is actually incorrect.
No problem you can continue on.
Correct answer drone on steroids VOLOCONNECT.
(https://i.postimg.cc/SQXWQCD6/Volocopter-Volo-Connect-Flying-Past-scaled-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bkCmGvh)
Actualy Sir, they renamed the Voloconnect to Voloregion: https://www.volocopter.com/solutions/voloregion/ (the actual picture you posted is there)
https://www.volocopter.com/newsroom/volocopters-4-seater-evtol-takes-first-flight/
Scroll down and right above the video it says: *The VoloConnect was renamed in October 2022 and is now known as the VoloRegion.
I knew it was a Volocopter as there is one in Microsoft FlightSimulator so i regonized it, than i just wen to the Volocopter site :o)
But i am still curious if someone can guess what the flying aircraft is i just posted, wouldnt be suprised if no one gets it as its usealy depicted as a different "fantasy" version wich i think would be unable to fly.
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Whitesnake's pic looks like the (actual) K-7 superheavy bomber
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Whitesnake's pic looks like the (actual) K-7 superheavy bomber
Thats correct, Kalinin K-7 wich on a lot of images is depicted as this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/rw4hwH9H/1k7.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I dont think that would be able to get of the ground
So Ta183Huckebein, its your turn now.
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Alright, i do an other one, Should be really easy:
(https://i.postimg.cc/5N9KyyM0/1229x1536.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/py7J12rb)
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Alright, i do an other one, Should be really easy:
(https://i.postimg.cc/5N9KyyM0/1229x1536.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/py7J12rb)
Flying Replica of a Fokker D.XXI?
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Flying Replica of a Fokker D.XXI?
Yes, but the official documents read "rebuild" as everything was done from the original drawings, and the engine is a unused original spare engine wich has been in storage but they did mount a constand speed prop wich helps with stability of the plane.
Fokker D.XXI 229 reg. PH-XXI
https://www.fokkerd21.com/
https://www.upinthesky.nl/2021/05/29/de-fokker-d-xxi-229-als-nieuw-in-hoogeveen/
Guess its your turn now :)
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Ok can anyone identify this turret?
(https://i.postimg.cc/B6JCBrQ8/4-F1-F9-A6-B-3-EFD-433-E-9075-C600276-B35-FC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rdYW8Y4c)
Bonus points if you know what plane it’s going in
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Almost looks like a B-17G chin turret
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B-25J upper turret
Could that plane perhaps be Sandbar Mitchell?
James/PvF
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B-25J upper turret
Could that plane perhaps be Sandbar Mitchell?
James/PvF
You sir, would be correct!
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Try this one on for size
Photo taken by me, yesterday.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bwwmCWyM/IMG-4527.jpg)
Good Luck,
James/PvF
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No apparent cockpit, swept wings with seemingly straight chord, folded...
SSM-N-8 Regulus (1?) by chance?
]cheers[
Mike
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Excellent work, Mike.
You're up!
James/PvF
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Oh yeah, my turn... hope this isn't too hard to guess:
(https://i.ibb.co/TvBy6MN/f35.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Armstrong-Hawker Aviation BAE-46 Spitfire FB.69 8)
(https://i.postimg.cc/hPd59M6v/IMG-20230903-WA0000.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Armstrong-Hawker Aviation BAE-46 Spitfire FB.69
Spot on! How on earth did you know?
Your turn!
]cheers[
Mike
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God damnit
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Alright, you know the drill
(https://i.postimg.cc/D0Xj9xWg/Walsh-Brothers-Type-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Lgm3fB3Y)
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Well this is a coincidence, I was just reading about this one today.
Walsh Brothers Type D
James/PvF
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Walsh Brothers Type D
That's what you drank last night.
We're searching for an aircraft :D
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That gave me a good chuckle, Mike.
I’ve got a good one lined up as soon as ZtheE confirms my answer.
James/PvF
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You got it
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Thanks ZtheE,
Next up is this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/VLvzknQB/IMG-5024.jpg)
Good luck,
James/PvF
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Looks a lot like a Sikorsky XPBS-1 to me.
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You'd be correct, Mike.
Your turn Mike.
James/PvF
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Mike...you clever sod! Stop guessing!!!... :P
S
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Can't comply, too tempting :D
Here's another tough nut:
(https://i.ibb.co/zspXjQp/Tornado2.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Thats a Panavia Tornado IDS My Friends
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From the Taktisches Luftwaffengeschwader 33
Best Regards KT503
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Oh sorry, just noticed that I forgot to mention:
The quest was about the shoe size of WSO's daughter.
]cheers[
Mike
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lololololololol
]laughing4] ]laughing4] ]laughing4] ]laughing4] ]laughing4] ]laughing4] ]laughing4] ]laughing4] ]laughing4] ]laughing4] ]laughing4] ]laughing4] ]laughing4] ]laughing4] ]laughing4]
Best Regards KT503
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The quest was about the shoe size of WSO's daughter.
US size 13.5, Men's.
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That seems about right :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I55B7LHDe5M
The baton goes to KT :P
]cheers[
Mike
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Since KT didn't pull the finger out yet, I take the liberty of unlocking the thread.
Guess this one. No, just naming the base type isn't enough, we need the exact model.
(https://i.ibb.co/rfhVZyr/F-4-With-Gunpod.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Since KT didn't pull the finger out yet, I take the liberty of unlocking the thread.
Guess this one. No, just naming the base type isn't enough, we need the exact model.
(https://i.ibb.co/rfhVZyr/F-4-With-Gunpod.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
RF-4C, specifically 62-12201
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Damn Im Late, Well Better up next time
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RF-4C, specifically 62-12201
To be deadly precise, the planes initial designation was YRF-110A, later redesignated as YRF-4C and Finally GRF-4C.
But since you got the S/N right, it's safe to say we are talking about the same aircraft, so the baton is yours ]thumbsup[
]cheers[
Mike
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Can you name not only the plane but the airline it’s from?
(https://i.postimg.cc/3JDpDVDJ/IMG-7072.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Convair CV-580
As for the airline - with the help of Google, I’m saying IFL as a WAG (wild-assed guess)
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Convair CV-580
As for the airline - with the help of Google, I’m saying IFL as a WAG (wild-assed guess)
You sir, are correct on both! Crazy to think they are still flying
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Open house
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(https://i.postimg.cc/0Qs0fgGg/M.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Image Credit: NZDF-Serials
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Some sort of Mitsubishi MU-2.
My least favorite aircraft to service and fuel. Damn things are (excuse my French) fucking annoying.
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Correct RNZAF Mitsubishi MU-2F.
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(excuse my French)
Geez James, I never realized that you spoke French. :P
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Thanks genX,
Yes Cloyd, I believe that makes me bilingual although I've found parallels between my version of "French" and sailor mouth. Perhaps they come from the same root.
Either way, NEW QUEST!
Try this wacky thing:
(https://i.postimg.cc/nzn9Q44K/Quest-SAS2.jpg)
Forward visibility? Who needs that?
Good luck.
James/PvF/Charles
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Looks a lot like a French worker at Morane-Saulnier who had too much wine on the evening before, and held the engine mount drawing upside down while putting together the front section of a Criquet.
]cheers[
Mike
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Ready to give a hint? Is it French?
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It is not French
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Could be anything.
The gear and wing struts and the cockpit remind me of a Storch, but the wings have no leading slats.
The engine could be of U.S. origin, but that's nothing special in the 1930s.
Could or could not be an STOL type, pretty much an observer aircraft.
Apparently nothing that ever made it to series production, definitely nothing I've seen before.
]cheers[
Mike
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Could it be a Polish 1930s design?
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Mike got close with his American remark. (There’s a reason I use my useless aviation knowledge to pick the hardest quests :P )
It is a US Army aircraft but that’s all I’ll say as I’d be giving far too much away.
James
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Looks like a messed up Curtiss Robin
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Ooh, so close.
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Not part of my aircraft general knowledge, but thanks to mexchiwa I worked out it's a Curtiss XC-10.
mexchiwa can take the next round.
(https://i.postimg.cc/3N0Gz8Yj/051202-F-1234-P-013.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p5xyFt9y)
Image Credit - National Museum of the United States Air Force
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Excellent job!
Perhaps I was too liberal with my hints but Mex definitely had this so even though you did identify the aircraft correctly, GenX, I will respect your wishes that it be Mex’s turn next.
Looks like you’re up, Mexchiwa.
James/PvF
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New aircraft.
(https://i.postimg.cc/4yVhZWX8/1-Air-Trials-Unit-Woomera-c-1955-Percival-Prince-Mk-3-A90-3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Looks like Percival P.50 Prince/Sea Prince
It’s definitely not the P.48 Merganser because that has inlines and it’s also definitely not a P.66 Pembroke because the quest aircraft is too small.
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RAAF Percival Prince
It was meant to be a quick one, but that literally took the time for me to have my morning shower.
Next one more challenging.
Your turn.
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Spicing things up!
Want the answer to be a PICTURE.
To answer, post an image of another aircraft that shares the same name as the one below.
If correct I will fill in the gaps.
Fingers crossed there isn't a third aircraft or I might come a cropper.
(https://i.postimg.cc/6qDh4xrw/img05.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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(https://i.ibb.co/9nSTSGp/GANNET-4.jpg)
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Well done!
Thanks for playing along.
Your image shows a Fairey Gannet and mine the Tugan Gannet also known as Wackett Gannet.
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Oh dammit, almost stalled.
Here's another one to guess.
Kind of especially for genXgamer:
(https://i.ibb.co/pZF4vF0/quest-ai.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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I'm pretty sure i rode in one of these on the merry-go-round at the local fair when i was about 5... :-|
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Would you believe a third Gannet!
This time a Gloster Gannet.
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Life is full of surprises, isn't it?
The baton is yours genXgamer!
]cheers[
Mike
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A quick search and I couldn't find any discussion here on this one.
That's not to say someone doesn't know exactly what it is.
(https://i.postimg.cc/QCD01wpZ/new-quest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bHQfHc0)
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French Leduc 021-02, isn't it genXgamer ???
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The Leduc was another crazy French project of the early post war, but with style :D
(https://i.postimg.cc/mgzy1F0q/A-Screenshot-2023-10-29-155520.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
and with the nose extended so the pilot could enter and exit:
(https://i.postimg.cc/zXmg2PMd/022-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Prm8gQnd/022-3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
and with the ramjet in action:
(https://i.postimg.cc/k4F0rHsx/Escanear0005.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JcKMtq5)
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Gaston you were first with the correct answer.
It was the Leduc 0.21
ADD CAPTION
(https://i.postimg.cc/LXzCdTmD/leduc-021-experimental-ramjet.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Here's a great video of the 0.22 which unlike the 0.21 could takeoff on it's own.
https://youtu.be/_F_JUlCbDFg?si=EFPpNcL68gmE1q7P
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OK. So... what next ???
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4WqqxSm/QuiQuizz.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Oh, yes... what plane here ???
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I can tell you where it is…
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...and if you know where it is, you know what it is ! So... tell us !
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It’s at the Royal Thai Air Force Museum. It looks like a single-engined OV-10 Bronco, only with a pusher prop in the rear fuselage instead of twin props in the booms
That said, I have no idea what its name is, and haven’t looked it up since that doesn’t seem to be in the spirit of the game…
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You have it. Name of the plane is RTAF-5.
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1w9YrV6/RTAF-5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p91sJZrD)
And can be seen at the museum you mentioned.
Now... your turn !
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This is one from another forum:
(Here’s the original link: https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/the-what-is-it-game.25244/page-519
(So far no one has gotten over there)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TY7jzN7x/img026.jpg)
I’ll start by saying I don’t know what this one is (but have some guesses)
If this violates the rules of the game I’ll give an open house to someone else
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Enlighten us with your guesses please.
So far it could be anything, simply because what's visible doesn't suffice for identifying the airplane.
Apparently it's a high-wing monoplane, fixed gear, 9cyl radial, probably American (P&W Wasp or something similar).
The flaps look interesting, as does the obvious "extra" on top of the wing. Early cropduster mod of some airplane? God knows.
]cheers[
Mike
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My gut reaction was it has to Bellanca - but I can’t find anything by them that matches
Not a Howard DGA, not a Cessna 195, not a Stinson, not a Douglas O-46 or a Norseman
DHC-2 Beaver? But the OP said it was American
Like I said, this is from another forum and I have no idea what it is (and they don’t either)
What the thing is above and behind the engine - fuel tank? Then why not below the fuselage? Something gravity-fed?
Not sure about the flaps - not sure if the trailing edge of the wing is in line with the prop in this pic
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Vought/Chance Vought ac used slim NACA cowlings ie Kingfisher etc. I appreciate the same sort of NACA cowlings were also used by many other manufacturers.
The dome fitting above the wing/engine, could it be experiments with forced induction? or even early airbourne radar?
Good one BTW....
Cheers
Shessi
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I can’t think of any Vought aircraft with a high wing (not counting the F-8 or A-7, obviously)
I think we need to eliminate the obvious
This plane wasn’t built like this from scratch - it’s a modification of an existing aircraft
I thought it might be a fuel tank Ryan NYP-style, but really, really doubt that
We have two avenues to figure this out - what is the original plane (probably a common aircraft) and what is the modification? Is it a radar (late PBY style?). Is it a crew position?
Anyway, just my thoughts.
Are the wing struts a red herring? They aren’t attached to the tank. Are they part of the plane?
Another possibility we can probably eliminate - not a Lockheed Vega
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Alright, I have it.
It's the Stinson L-1 Vigilant S/N 40-255 modified by Prof. E. A. Stalker.
Can't find the original full scale picture of the quest, but here's two more:
(https://i.ibb.co/cYNPYMK/361304812-3502884613332923-1683392280976281473-n.jpg)
The story behind:
Sometimes, solutions can take a strange shape. When developing one of the first Boundary Layer Control testbeds on an Air Force Stinson L-1 Vigilant (40-255), Prof. E. A. Stalker found that the aircraft was much too small to fit in the auxiliary engine needed to create suction between the flaps. This suction would enable the aircraft to hang on to the boundary layer of the airstream, which would give it greatly increased lift at low airspeeds.
So, the solution was to create a colossal, bulbous fairing above the cabin to house the additional 80 hp Franklin O-180 engine, which would power the system. As a result, the L-1, based out of Michigan’s Tri-City Airport (now MBS International), became known by airmen as the “Humpback.” In addition to the hump, the L-1 also had new plywood wings equipped with two-segment full-span Fowler flaps that could extend 33 degrees. The segments between the flaps was where the auxiliary engine would draw air and create suction. The air sucked in would then be expelled from the back of the hump. The result would (hopefully) be a shorter takeoff and landing distance as well as a greatly increased lift coefficient.
However, in 1944, testing on Boundary Layer Control was very new, and not yet fully understood. With the added weight of its hump, the Humpback L-1’s lift coefficient only increased by 0.1, and the landing distance was actually longer. After 19 flights, it was transferred to Wright Field, where it crashed in the neighborhood of Alpha, Ohio, during stall testing, killing the test pilot.
Prof. Stalker came to realize how poor of a choice the L-1 was for BLC, due to its tiny size, and later BLC testing was done on much larger aircraft. I wouldn’t call the Humpback a failure however, because in order to find the right way, you’ve got to find the wrong way first!
]cheers[
Mike
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Alright. You’ve got it
I won’t tell the guys on the other forum
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Ahhhh interesting....thx for the info about it as well.
S
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Storebror got it, but I don’t think he’s going to post a new one, so open house
(If I’m wrong and you’re going to post one, jump in and let me know)
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Oh sorry, somehow got lost.
Just a moment, new quest incoming!
]cheers[
Mike
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Late, but hopefully not too late.
An easy one for you guys:
(https://i.ibb.co/c1KKvhy/quest-col.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Gotta be the XB-32 Dominator prototype. I’d recognize that fin back there anywhere.
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The baton is yours James, well done!
]cheers[
Mike
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Can 'I bend the rules a bit and ask if you know where this joystick come from
Sokol1 brought this to my attention
(https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/uploads/monthly_2023_11/IMG_0445.jpeg.75f7f776a0b7d0a19ed2c1ce969d5f3b.jpeg)
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Formation Stick for Type C-1 Automatic Pilot System
Check out this site:
https://aeroantique.com/products/formation-stick-for-type-c-1-automatic-pilot-system?variant=7648143900702
Cheers
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It's been awhile, so here's a quick one to get things rolling.
(https://i.postimg.cc/3JrNZfMs/temora-012.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Recognized that instantly, Cessna A-37B Dragonfly
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Yeah mate
Here's a link to the one pictured.
https://aviationmuseum.com.au/cessna-a-37b-dragonfly/
You're up next.
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Ok, lets see if anyone can guess this one, full aircraft brand, type and nickname please :P
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKhGZ7f5/raadhetplaatje.jpg)
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Cessna T-37 Tweet
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Cessna T-37 Tweet
Cessna T-37B Tweet to be exact, but close enough, its the Trainer version they based the A-37B Dragonfly on.
Your turn :)
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Kinda keeping to the theme
(https://i.postimg.cc/g0hqmVYC/download-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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F-35?
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F-35?
So close!
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No. F-35 is so ugly !!! This one is much nicer.
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I suppose that the registration number on the rudder tells everything you want to know
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I suppose that the registration number on the rudder tells everything you want to know
Good point, thats why i (and some others probably) picked a image where its not visible, otherwise it could be really easy to look up.
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I suppose that the registration number on the rudder tells everything you want to know
You're no fun, no guesses 4 u
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It's a Cessna Citation Business Jet, more specifically the Cessna 526.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_526_CitationJet
One of the many failed follow ons for the T-37.
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It's a Cessna Citation Business Jet, more specifically the Cessna 526.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_526_CitationJet
One of the many failed follow ons for the T-37.
Yep, you got it
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It's a Cessna Citation Business Jet, more specifically the Cessna 526.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_526_CitationJet
One of the many failed follow ons for the T-37.
It is not a Business Jet, just check your own link ;)
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I am fully aware, there is also a Cessna Citation business jet.
It is meant to be a joke, now that it is explained, the joke is dead, thank you.
I guess it's my turn :) Photo has been edited to remove markings.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kXXNmw9g/tttttttttttttttttt.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I guess it's myPhoto has been edited to remove markings.
Where is the big black censor bar that covers half the screen?
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A true classic: the Boeing Stearman
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Where is the big black censor bar that covers half the screen?
I am more civilized then adding a black bar.
A true classic: the Boeing Stearman
No. Not even the correct manufacturer.
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I am fully aware, there is also a Cessna Citation business jet.
It is meant to be a joke, now that it is explained, the joke is dead, thank you.
I guess it's my turn :) Photo has been edited to remove markings.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kXXNmw9g/tttttttttttttttttt.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Curtis Wright CW-16E from the Argentine Navy
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Correct. Picture (not mine) is the museum and airport I used to work at through highschool and university.
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Guess that means its my turn again ;D
I post one later today.
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Here it is:
(https://i.postimg.cc/vB0GZgp1/126917.webp)
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Ilyushin Il-20M
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Ilyushin Il-20M
That was faster than i expected...
I posted that because someone put up a thread about a IL-20 (1948) mod, which is a completely different aircraft.
So you are correct, (actualy i think its not a M but a PP version but ok) so its your turn now P51vsFw190 :)
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I’ll do something a little bit easier just to keep the ball rolling.
Try this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/6QR15gr1/IMG-2973.jpg)
I’ve had to cover up some things outside the aircraft so it’s not too easy even though it’s pretty damn easy anyway.
PvF/James
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B-29A-60-BN, 44-69175, built at the Boeing Renton plant.
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Technically it's a 55-BN but that's splitting hairs I suppose.
It's Jack's Hack of course! The resident B-29 of the New England Air Museum and one of my many "offices."
You're up Geschirr.
James/PvF
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No no, you are right it is a -55, in fact 44-69175 doesn't exist, why would the internet lie to me, why didn't I fact check it, I've wasted every bodies time.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/DzJ9Pjsr/26-A.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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If this isn’t somehow related to the Max Holste (?) Broussard I’ll eat my shoe
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It looks like a variation of an Auster
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I think this is in a British Aircraft of WW2 book. I'll get it out once I'm home
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My first impression was also an Auster, until I saw the twin tail.
I'll be interested to find out what it is.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qBh9LyhV/images.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Looks more French than British to me...
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I agree I was going for a Miles due to the twin tail but the undercarriage is definitely different
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French SNCAC Norvigie ?
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Good job Gaston! Yes, the SNCAC NC.856 Norvigie.
I saw it as a prop plane in the Christmas movie The Shepherd, and it took me 5 minutes of digging to figure it out. Of course I was working with a color version, at a weird angle. Your turn.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Mp3ZwzD2/Screenshot-20240120-060724-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJMPBQpD)
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OK. Thanks. This time, let's go for something different. As you know, many squadrons in many air forces have their insignia. So...
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0LWTHyt/Quiquizz59b.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Which squadron did use this insigna ?
Finding the air force will certainly help you.
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Very easy one for me.
I'll let someone else have a crack first.
EDIT: I have my own squadron insignia I want to post so I'll give an answer.
Swiss Air Force 6 Squadron or Escadrille 6
Written up in records as Cp Av 6 which at the time of doing my Swiss campaign I knew what that stood for.
From memory some squadrons had French names while others had German.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bvwNCvXD/swiss.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Written up in records as Cp Av 6 which at the time of doing my Swiss campaign I knew what that stood for.
CP.AV.6 = Compagnie d'aviation 6 = Fliegerkompanie (Fliegerstaffel) 6 = Fightersquadron 6.
]cheers[
Mike
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Exactly, genXgamer ! This insignia was Cp. Av. 6 insigna. Can be seen on Me-109E-3 during WW2 :
(https://i.postimg.cc/J4X6Qt9K/Messerschmitt-Bf-109-E3-Swiss-Cpav6-J318-WNr-2166-featuring-the-witch-on-broomstick-emblem-Switzerlan.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zVJFzDDR)
Your turn.
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I'll follow up Gaston's squadron insignia with one I've had lined up for some time.
What is this affectionately know as?
(https://i.postimg.cc/T3sFtfxM/newquest.png) (https://postimg.cc/gxvgJ9rN)
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I don't know about the affectionate part, but is this an Asian Fu (foo?) dog?
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Not the answer I'm after.
Perhaps my question is a bit vague.
Belongs to a squadron and has a nickname.
Here's a more detailed image.
(https://i.postimg.cc/YSzJDXFH/1020-726x10242.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Oh finally. F-35!! :D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._77_Squadron_RAAF
]cheers[
Mike
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Well the answer is in there somewhere.
Grumpy Monkey not to be confused with Evil Monkey.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kM2p93jp/evil-monkey-angry.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
The unit motto is "Swift to Destroy" and the crest features an oriental temple lion, a legacy of No. 77 Squadron's role in the Korean War. Nicknamed the "grumpy monkey", the lion represents "a defender of peace, which, when disturbed, is swift to destroy".
Have a turn Mike.
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Thanks man 8)
Something easy to relax:
(https://i.ibb.co/7pF7VLd/313199428-495836442586488-4670657633778169062-n.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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At first I thought it might be a swing-wing Ballsack...sorry Balzac, but it's a Dassault Mirage G8.01....good looking ac.
Cheers
Shessi
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That's perfectly right Shessi, your turn ]thumbsup[
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Ok, something different.......
(https://i.postimg.cc/hjPgWZhd/I-wonder.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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PZL M-15 Belphegor, I presume?
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You presume correctly H...;)
Supposidly the slowest flying jet ac ever produced!
Over to you.
S
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The only biplane jet too, I think...
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I love the 'rubber bands' holding the wing tank on ... ;D
S
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The only biplane jet too, I think...
Depends.
https://www.radaerosports.com/
https://www.richgoodwinairshows.com/g-jpit
Arguably both fall into the "mixed power" category though.
]cheers[
Mike
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A biplane too...
(https://i.postimg.cc/nc0c989H/Muu.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rKRL7P9b)
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Looks a lot like a Muniz M-7:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muniz_M-7
(https://i.ibb.co/Swfq2dz/325201.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Yes, it looks like it, and it is. Somewhere in time between Santos Dumont and Embraer. Landing gear mounting always fascinates me. Now it's your turn.
(https://i.postimg.cc/tRf6J4WW/Muu2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PNWJFh65)
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Sorry for stalling the thread.
Anyone can share the story behind this one?
(https://i.ibb.co/2cnNF6F/Lockheed-L-1011-385-3-Tri-Star-500-Air-Lanka-AN0962210.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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The TriStar flew over Chernobyl
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Some kind of an engine testbed?
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Sorry for stalling the thread.
Anyone can share the story behind this one?
]cheers[
Mike
It's an Air Lanka L-1011-500 TriStar ferrying an extra engine.
Haven't found any more on this yet.
Flamer'
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It's an Air Lanka L-1011-500 TriStar ferrying an extra engine.
Haven't found any more on this yet.
That's correct and the baton goes to you.
A little more detail (really just a little): In the early days of Jet Airliners, it was quite common to ferry a spare engine especially over long distances.
3- or 4-Engine aircraft were regularly equipped with a hardpoint for ferrying a spare engine, and they even used it on revenue flights.
Nowadays when most of the airliners are twin engine aircraft, this isn't possible anymore.
Not for the fact hat a twin couldn't carry the additional 3rd engine, but the additional drag would make single engine operation unfeasible in case of an engine failure, let alone adhering to ETOPS.
Here's a few more oddballs:
(https://i.ibb.co/7yQZG0Y/0457505.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/YDP8P4x/1113x.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/XJJqC4p/8025004734-c41d4689db-b.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vjtGRRN/apayw-july8.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/VSq7xJ2/G-ARVM-fifthengine.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/CQsN2Q6/SaE8r.jpg)
Your turn Flamer50!
]cheers[
Mike
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It's not what you might think:
(https://i.postimg.cc/fMGSKXZ0/Mystery-Bird-2.jpg)
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Wait... no F-35?
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Convair Charger?
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It's not what you might think:
Looks like a Bronco, but that has a different cockpit cabin.
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Convair Charger?
You are correct, the Convair Model 48 Charger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_Model_48_Charger
Your turn. ]cheers[
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(https://i.postimg.cc/pTCGxVnJ/IMG-1073.jpg)
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Supposedly Amelia Earhart Lockheed 10E Electra even though i am really doubtful
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Yep. You got it. Guess we’ll just have to wait to see what it really is. I think it’s MH370 myself….
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Shouldn't MH370 be lost west of Australia? Should also be much bigger than the Electra.
In any case with all the planes that went MIA in the Pacific during WWII it could be anything.
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Shouldn't MH370 be lost west of Australia? Should also be much bigger than the Electra.
In any case with all the planes that went MIA in the Pacific during WWII it could be anything.
In WW2 plenty of planes went missing and where never found, but i would not be surprised at all if it is not even a aircraft at all.
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Shouldn't MH370 be lost west of Australia? Should also be much bigger than the Electra.
In any case with all the planes that went MIA in the Pacific during WWII it could be anything.
(I wasn’t really being serious…). But it really could be Earhart’s Electra.
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It would be great if that blur is really Earhart's Electra, but I share the skepticism of others here. There are many things that it could be.
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Looks like we have reached "stalled" state again.
Guess this:
(https://i.ibb.co/CPZYdSr/quest.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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It would’ve flown rings around any other postwar piston airliner…
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If that piston airliner was parked maybe.
Otherwise, its top speed would not suffice.
]cheers[
Mike
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Ok, it’s a Lockheed Saturn. Pending confirmation I’ll say open house
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You got that right mexchiwa.
Open house?
Okay, how about that one:
(https://i.ibb.co/1Mgvcj2/QUEST.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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Jave-Meteo-tour? (It looks like a mashup of a Javelin, Meteor and Vatour)
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It even has something of the Yak-28, mexchiwa...
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It's nothing!
Look real close and zoom in. None of the details make any sense and none of the panel lines are completely coherent.
This is an entirely fabricated AI image.
Which reminds me, Mike, you've been using some AI touching up in some recent screenshots haven't you?
Like this image for example (from a Sunday mission from a few months ago when we were flying through that hangar and KT flew into you):
(https://i.postimg.cc/gcHvjjwM/und6insy.png)
James/PvF
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And further more if we zoom in on the vehicles in the background on the left, you'll see that they aren't even rendered properly (AI still has a ways to go).
(https://i.postimg.cc/65YRtP7T/QUEST1.jpg)
Or what about the landing gear? None of it even remotely makes sense from an engineering perspective let alone being able to physically move.
(https://i.postimg.cc/q79DQq4f/QUEST2.jpg)
I think this is a completely made up aircraft using a prompt that included at least two of the aircraft that Mexchiwa mentioned.
I think Mike made this to throw us off but I'm on to you, you crafty German bastard! ;)
James/PvF
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You are so pretentious James! Next your going to tell me none of these are real!
(https://i.postimg.cc/4yVff1p8/9716b098-821d-41e1-9689-610ad4b2ae47.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJC5GKsf)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fW9TfM1x/a-beautiful-194-60a289f1-26ac-4f55-85ce-a46de944093d.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SjmhybSs)
(https://i.postimg.cc/gkbcMfP1/asdf.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RqGzhphT)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9FPmsJm0/asgdasdgag.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZCRzdPyz)
(https://i.postimg.cc/YCpr7Y03/de-havilland-mo-81ccb2da-c5d2-4f9b-b84a-2db36719faa2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JG2VcybD)
(https://i.postimg.cc/2S2zSyBf/english-electri-27f37828-805a-4220-8811-5fe4fbb174f7-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1RKW6VW)
(https://i.postimg.cc/FKzhdvjk/img-5402.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jDppmG3R)
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLWpqWkR/img-5403.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1FKj28W)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4dhZP12J/img-5405.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9RVvFyjS)
(https://i.postimg.cc/T1Mx4WBn/j.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJgRWmvz)
(https://i.postimg.cc/HnwmDkCR/raf-se5a-1a6ed7a3-3a77-4097-95ec-6aaf2dd57085-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zHG6T5vF)
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQrwT4T6/supermarine-spi-a58434f0-8ceb-4cff-b016-be4168d5eb2b-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BtSdr5pP)
https://hushkit.net/
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Oh, nooooooooo, Geschirr... there are so many beautiful aircrafts... why ask IA to do so ugly "things" ???
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I think Mike made this to throw us off but I'm on to you, you crafty German bastard! ;)
(https://i.ibb.co/tmwkd2x/Adolf-Hitler-Arthur-Kannenberg-Harz-mountain.jpg)
Mike, you've been using some AI touching up in some recent screenshots haven't you?
Well... isn't the whole game "AI" in some way?
The baton is your James!
]cheers[
Mike
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Thanks Mike!
Alright gentlemen, try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/qRWyX4Wj/IMG-6371.jpg)
Good luck as always.
James/PvF
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Getting strong Lokheed Connie vibes off this one...
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You are so pretentious James! Next your going to tell me none of these are real!
My eyes are hurting! o_O o_O
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a proving Ground in Ohrdruf/GDR 1988
Russian soldiers standing next to a...?
(https://i.postimg.cc/pTZw39Mv/Polygon-Ohrdruf-Truppen-bungsplatz-1988.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
LOL
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Thanks Mike!
Alright gentlemen, try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/qRWyX4Wj/IMG-6371.jpg)
Good luck as always.
Have the feeling this has something to do with Fairey or Supermarine. (The former almost surely)
James/PvF
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Alright gentlemen, try this one:
Good luck as always.
James/PvF
How about a Fairey FC1, prototype not completed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_FC1
Butch
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Good job, Flamer!
Sorry for the delay.
Your turn.
James/PvF
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O.K., try this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/np9NvDss/Mystery-Plane-3.jpg)
The prototype was built and flight tested.
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737 MAX-13?
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Can't be a 737 Max, the access panels are all still in place. Try again?
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If not 737 Max, then, it is a F-35.
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Typically, Douglas cabin, triple fin – it can be only the DC-4E. :)
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You are correct HaFu1939 ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-4E#
Your turn :)
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And what’s this?
(https://i.postimg.cc/mDrsy9Ff/aaa.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Good luck, HaFu1939
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Coincidentally, I have the Naval Institute Press's book on Miles next to me and I can confidently say that this is a Miles M.2D Hawk three-seater powered by a ADC Cirrus IIIA producing 95hp.
You know they only made six to special order?
James/PvF
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Your answer is correct and very comprehensive, yes, it is the Miles M2D Hawk.
My source is Brown, D. L. (1970). Miles aircraft since 1925. London: Putnam.
The story of the Miles aircraft company is very romantic and I like the light aircraft of the pre-war period. This one is particularly interesting as a three-seater. I am very happy that someone else is reading about the same topic quite by chance.
And yes, I know there were only five (your source mentions six?) made in total :)
Now is your turn...
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Sorry for the extended delay, gentlemen. Real life reared its wicked and ugly head and I had to attend to that.
Now, for the reason we all come here,
Guess this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/yYQnWNr4/IMG-8304.jpg)
Good luck, although I’m sure none of you will need it since it’s a pretty simple one.
Sincerely,
PvF/James/Charles ;)
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PZL P.1
On a hunch I checked a PZL fighter aircraft list, and found the exact picture you used too.
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Good work in record time there, Ta183.
You’re up!
PvF/James/Charles
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Yeehaw, sometimes I get lucky
Alright, bit of an obscure one to update the quest (although now that I've said that, it'll be trivially easy to guess right)
(https://i.imgur.com/59P86DK.jpg)
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That’s gotta be an Aichi AB-3
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And indeed it is, very well done
Solved in record time in return!
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Thanks!
Now try this goofy thing on for size:
(https://i.postimg.cc/3JB9d0T9/IMG-8313.jpg)
This one may not actually be that difficult to do. I had to post the entire thing because it just looks so goofy.
PvF/James/Charles
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Dang, that was a hard one. Finally found it when, at my wit's end, I googled the barely legible number on the tail plus trimotor.
Zenith Albatros Z-12.
You're quite right, that's an odd lookin' critter there
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Excellent work!
You’re up….uhh, again ;D
PvF/James/Charles
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Alright, time for another "it might be hard, it might take 3 minutes" plane
(https://i.imgur.com/RuSqGCH.png)
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It’s taken me a good deal of deep searching but I think I’ve cracked it.
It’s the Bartini Stal-6
(https://i.postimg.cc/bwPgTvd5/IMG-8315.png)
PvF/James/Charles
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Indeed it is, very well done sir 8)
You're up.... again :P
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You and I really need to stop doing this. If we don’t, we may exhaust the limited supply of weird aircraft designs.
If I guess the one after this one correct again, I will call an open round so we aren’t completely hogging the thread and also so we don’t get called massive nerds forever………oops, secrets out! :P :D
Anywho, try this:
And good luck ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/xjFnct9s/IMG-8317.jpg)
PvF/James/Charles
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Hi,
is it this one ?
Baby White 1916
15hp motorcycle engine and chain-driven pusher propeller; span: 18'0" length: 16'0"
Canard configuration with trailing-edge ailerons; reverse tricycle gear
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It would indeed be the 1916 Baby White; the first kit-built aircraft to be sold in the USA.
Your turn, Maveric!
PvF/James/Charles
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and this one is ... ?
(https://i.postimg.cc/bYG7WYsq/avion.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Well it’s definitely a Beech Model 18 and it has the improved wingtips of the standard postwar modifications to improve stability and flight efficiency and performance.
As for which subtype it belongs to, I’m at a loss since this example shows little modification besides the wingtips.
PvF/James/Charles
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good,
P51vsFw190 your turn 8)
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Open Round!
I’ve made this quest thread seem a little one-sided in the last few days. I’m called an open round for anyone to post their quest.
Just remember that it’s first come, first serve so when someone posts, that’s it, open round has ended.
Get ready gentlemen and START YOUR ENGINES!
GO!
PvF/James/Charles
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Something easy to fill the gap:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDvTZNh/334093277-1667988200338561-7732853532305983953-n.jpg)
]cheers[
Mike
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A2D Skyshark ?
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Bingo, your turn Dreamk!
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Well let's try this one - must not be too difficult:
(https://i.postimg.cc/9Fd0scPF/92.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Lnsm1K0r)
and a colour "artistic" propaganda photo of the same:
(https://i.postimg.cc/NF1GhxHP/727x489.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I normallly don't comment in these quests but it''s indeed easy. it's the Mitsubishi Ki-20 heavy Bomber (Japanese Designation) and for the original owners which is Germany, the Junkers G 38. Playing BAT does really help you learn new planes day by day.
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Correct! Your turn ChicagoFire.
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for the original owners which is Germany, the Junkers G 38
Junkers K 51 to be precise.
Roots to the G 38, no doubt, but the Germans followed the same weird idea to derive a bomber from the passenger airplane, which resulted in the K 51.
The K 51 was never built in Germany (rumors are that a carcass got built though) but the drawings were sold to Japan, who accepted it to be produced as the Ki-20.
Source: The ones who definitely know it... https://hugo.junkers.de/blog/flugzeuge/junkers-k-51/
]cheers[
Mike
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So here I go with my turn now for you to guess:
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1DDZrV6/su-11-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zv69dfQf/su-11-1-m.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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F-35!
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Unfortunately it's not a F-35 but a hint: It's Soviet and Post-WW2.
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SU-35F? 35-26?
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Another tip: It's a Soviet clone of the Me-262 so your guessing should be around the years 1945-1947 ;)
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35-26=9... Su-9...
I know it's an Su-9(1946), it was easy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-9_(1946)
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Aaand we have a winner, yes that's correct , Su-9 (1946) aka me-262 clone, do not confuse with the later Su-9 , tecnically it's a Su-11 but with the linked wikipedia page you probably saw it too so it's your turn now Geschirr.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/MKBXZHvH/q.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Martin T4M with Saratoga in the background or rather backsea
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Correct.
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Thanks Geschirr,
Guess this pretty bird:
(https://i.postimg.cc/TPXJkY57/IMG-8865.jpg)
Good luck as always.
PvF/James/Charles ;)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/w38GsRYH/kadiac.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2LGws65X)
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this is somehow a true question for our experts the pic below is from Bourget air show 1933 does anybody know the plane on the left down corner?
(https://i.postimg.cc/dVvSL9CG/Paris-Le-Bourget-1933-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Frankiek,
That is the Blériot 125
PvF/James
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Thank you nice plane
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So we still have a quest in progress.
This pretty little biplane:
(https://i.postimg.cc/9X1c4Cxg/IMG-8865.jpg)
Good luck as always.
PvF/James/Charles ;)
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I have no idea, but I’ll throw a random guess out there to get things going
A random WACO alternative to the Boeing 100
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(https://i.postimg.cc/w38GsRYH/kadiac.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2LGws65X)
I guess I was too subtle... a kodiak bear waving hi... the Kadiak KC-1 Speedster, kadiak being inuit for kodiak. I'll never try again...
Built by Everett David in Michigan. He sold it in 1939, was damaged by a tornado in Texas in 1961 registration NR11312. Rebuilt as the KC-2 with an
inline engine registration N41C. At least that is best I can surmise from a couple google searches. I'm sure you have a book or documents about it at your museum.
Anyone else can take the next one, I don't care.
(https://i.postimg.cc/HnJ0CQwz/kadiak.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
What I assume is the KC-1 with the 95hp Velie M-5 radial
http://www.aerofiles.com/_k.html
(https://i.postimg.cc/wTdqsDMs/kadiak-kc1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
What is assume KC-1 is the 5 cylinder 90hp Lambert engine
(https://i.postimg.cc/1XkND2kh/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6GRTbBj)
I assume this is the rebuilt KC-1 as KC-2 with inline engine registration N41C.
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Sorry Geschirr,
I didn’t catch your humorous visual pun unfortunately.
It’s your turn, man!
PvF/James/Charles ;)
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I didn’t catch your humorous visual pun unfortunately.
Kadiak <-> Kodiak
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Hint, typically had a 5 cylinder radial Kinner engine.
This is from the air museum I worked at through highschool and college.
Hopefully I'm not violating any rules trying to ruin reverse image searches :)
(https://i.postimg.cc/hG9SGF4p/pre.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xk1rs4zz)
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By the vertical stabilizer it could be Fleet Model 7, I guess. This one is on display at Historic Aircraft Restoration Museum, St Louis. The engine is de Havilland Gipsy Major, isn't it?
Best regards,
HaFu1939
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Well damn... you're right.
From what I remember it was an Ranger engine.
I learned that from the owner, after witnessing multiple 3+ hour tours I learned that he wasn't always... consistent with his stories. Entertaining yes! Factual or consistent... not always.
Your turn HaFu!
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Sorry, maybe I'm going out of thread...
Yes, I know, Vickers Wellington... but which one?
This is the only photo I know. And that's all I know about it too (if I leave out the somewhat shaky account of Günther Frenzel's flight to the Belgian Congo).
Does anyone know more about this?
(https://i.postimg.cc/kGgS27yr/Vickers-Wellington.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I really don't want to block the fun discussion...
Ok, sorry for the yellow Wellington (I'll figure out what that is anyway), so here's something more in line with the nature and purpose of the thread:
(https://i.postimg.cc/kGvr2R92/marek-rys-t-117-vip-action-bw2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0KjX3Qzv)
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Is the bottom one Junkers-related?
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No, I’m sorry, Mexchiwa, it is not a Junkers plane. Both designers made large aircraft, both used corrugated metal covering.
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Soviet, maybe ???
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Tupolev ANT-2
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It is preserved in Monino museum
(https://sun9-76.userapi.com/impg/LmbqMOK6bzj14M1Rem8-LeQxsrhj51jrO7VNdQ/_PdZrQsW8jQ.jpg?size=2560x1920&quality=95&sign=dc2eeb2f82972391bafff63853bf15a0&type=album)
(https://sun9-28.userapi.com/impg/Aw98hghiC2kdRGE09_BpxSw-9-OAM8E06p8Kbw/uhaLjkZlciQ.jpg?size=2560x1920&quality=95&sign=e490d9ff3e8964d6b92d94cd4737f379&type=album)
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Yes, it is Tupolev ANT-2. Congratulations, P51vsFw190, now is your turn. Ol Willy, thanks for nice pictures, she looks pretty good for her age… 😊
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Thanks HaFu,
Try this one on for size:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Qdn0q0ns/IMG-9034.jpg)
Good luck,
James/PvF
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Hey. I might know this one! Twin Ag-Cat?
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It would be that indeed, Mex! Good job.
Here’s the craft in question:
(https://i.postimg.cc/4ys0tY8N/IMG-9033.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rm63Vnx4/IMG-9034.jpg)
Your turn, Mex!
James/PvF
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Open house