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Title: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on March 29, 2019, 05:14:51 AM
Early days.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Vs9Cz7Ts/image03.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3BBjk84)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: urmel on March 29, 2019, 06:48:21 AM
A long missing Ship!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: steeldust on March 29, 2019, 07:36:01 AM
wow
very promissing !
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Gatrasz on March 29, 2019, 09:21:28 AM
Wow, your ship's production is never ending ! :D
Thank you for all your gifts to the community !
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Cafs on March 29, 2019, 12:01:41 PM
Asheshouse strikes again.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: poiana44 on March 29, 2019, 01:38:54 PM
I can't believe it...
Asheshouse, you are the MASTER!
Maybe in this forum there is already an HMS Hood WIP...
Day by day you, and the others talented modders as you, are making this simulator an historic jewel!
A big thank!

Regards,
Poiana
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on May 06, 2019, 07:05:11 AM
Update -- Lots of parts still to be added, but progressing slowly. Beginning to look like Hipper now.

(https://i.postimg.cc/GhzG2ykH/image04.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0bMbXrXs)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: heaven17 on May 06, 2019, 07:21:15 AM
Already looking great! :)

She will be an important addition to the IL2 Sea :)

Heaven17 :)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Mick on May 06, 2019, 08:23:03 AM
... "she" looks very promising, for sure ...!  8)

By the way, very interesting article about referring to ships as “she” in English language...  ;)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/26/ships-she-royal-navy-language-row-female

Extract:

"Lloyds List, the 285-year-old daily maritime bible, abandoned “she” for “it” almost 20 years ago."
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on May 06, 2019, 12:20:32 PM
I am entirely comfortable with the long established practice of referring to ships as "she".
I am also entirely comfortable with the French term "le bateau"
I cannot comprehend how anybody can find offence in either use.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: David Prosser on May 06, 2019, 02:03:17 PM
I'll use this in missions if the opportunity arises.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Mick on May 06, 2019, 03:27:56 PM
I am entirely comfortable with the long established practice of referring to ships as "she".
I am also entirely comfortable with the French term "le bateau"
I cannot comprehend how anybody can find offence in either use.


... all current British Navy ships are called HMS xxx, and HMS stands for "Her Majesty's Ship", so as long as a queen rules in England, no problem ...  ;)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on May 08, 2019, 01:35:57 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/8cfH6hkv/image05.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PvhYGvwf)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Cafs on May 08, 2019, 02:37:19 PM
Wow, this is going fast. Great job.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: max_thehitman on May 08, 2019, 11:59:32 PM


Very cool looking model ship

Congratulations !  ]cheers[
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: erafitti on May 09, 2019, 02:54:56 AM
As always, first quality. :)

Un saludo.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: tvister on May 09, 2019, 09:25:47 AM
Thank you very much! Very beautiful model.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: steeldust on May 09, 2019, 10:25:44 AM
looks perfect!
thanks for your hard work!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Ace on May 09, 2019, 10:28:48 AM
Looking great!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on May 11, 2019, 08:45:26 AM
The poly count is increasing fast. Still ok, just. Worth it for the detail.

(https://i.postimg.cc/0N8LmgCY/image06.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dhxHPxp3)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on June 12, 2019, 07:09:04 AM
Making a start on texture mapping.

(https://i.postimg.cc/kMspcp6Q/image07.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kDVsMwyG)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Epervier on June 12, 2019, 07:13:10 AM
Gut, sehr gut!  ;)
Bravo !
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: urmel on June 12, 2019, 09:19:11 AM
Beautiful Ship!!!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: steeldust on June 12, 2019, 10:19:16 AM
wunderbar!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: poiana44 on June 12, 2019, 12:10:09 PM
Dear ashe... too much for us...  ;)
Wonderful work in progress, simply perfect!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: David Prosser on June 13, 2019, 02:27:27 PM
Me neither. Le bateau sounds cool. For someone who only speaks English; French sounds incredibly sophisticated. It doesn't matter if they're talking about their favourite soap, or existensialism. The effect is the same. Keep up the good work with the ships.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on June 14, 2019, 05:29:53 AM
Working forward from the stern to get everything mapped, and correcting stuff as I stumble across it.
Working texture is 2048x2048 pixels, but will reduce to standard 1024x1024 when mapping is completed.

(https://i.postimg.cc/mgXT0mq9/image08.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QF7L7JjN)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Mick on June 14, 2019, 05:59:34 AM
... looking very promising, ashe ...!  ;)

Here a size comparison between Kriegsmarine ships (including Hipper) ...

(https://i.postimg.cc/cCHTCMZV/Kriegsmarine-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CB3b68RN)

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on June 14, 2019, 07:13:33 AM
Comparison with the stock Tirpitz model.

(https://i.postimg.cc/kXWJcDZt/image09.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I believe that the German designers made a positive effort to create similar profiles for the major ships in order to make ship recognition a little more difficult.
Tirpitz displacement was 42900t. Hipper displacement was 16170t.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: bomberkiller on June 14, 2019, 10:52:38 AM
...schön!

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_deutscher_Schlachtschiffe_und_Schlachtkreuzer (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_deutscher_Schlachtschiffe_und_Schlachtkreuzer)

 ]cheers[

Gerhard
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on June 16, 2019, 09:01:32 AM
Hipper went through a lot of changes in camo and deck markings. The scheme I am intending to use for the skin is as she appeared in March 1942 when deployed to Norway.
In order to save space on the texture I plan to use the same camoflage scheme on both sides.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Hk2LjC8j/image10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WddVfCnP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/wBgsbVLR/Mrach-1942-Camo.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sMHXM5n3)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: tvister on June 16, 2019, 09:06:22 AM

Super!!!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on June 21, 2019, 09:31:11 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/kgpHJyM5/image11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zyT7pKgm)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Papy_Pitivier on June 21, 2019, 09:56:47 AM

(https://i.postimg.cc/SQZkKcr5/hipper-03-january-40.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SjzwT2H7)


(https://i.postimg.cc/R0sx0B1t/art-flot-korabl-voennyy-5854.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cKnbDPb1)


(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9MLtQ30/5457b49b79257efff018bcbdffb2af94.png) (https://postimg.cc/VSZkRr2P)


(https://i.postimg.cc/05m5VzdH/hipper-14-march-42.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8spV5PYh)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on June 29, 2019, 04:29:20 AM

(https://i.postimg.cc/43LT26r2/image12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSCTdCsX)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: erafitti on June 29, 2019, 04:35:35 AM
Great!  ]wav[

Un saludo.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Epervier on June 29, 2019, 04:55:09 AM
Great!  ]wav[
+1 ! Bravo !
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: urmel on June 29, 2019, 06:39:00 AM
Klasse!!!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Cafs on June 29, 2019, 07:05:30 AM
Wow, beautiful ship.    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: enry711 on June 29, 2019, 07:41:14 AM
I absolutely love this ship!! The design and the camo are just magnificent
Can't wait to have it :)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: poiana44 on June 29, 2019, 08:25:30 AM
Simply the best... ;)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Sharkzz on July 09, 2019, 10:07:39 AM
very very noice ash
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Keeno_50 on August 20, 2019, 04:14:00 AM


That's simply awesome.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on October 08, 2019, 12:19:07 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/C5dHCnBk/il2fb-2019-10-08-19-14-07-03.png) (https://postimg.cc/GTwyd2jm)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: tvister on October 08, 2019, 12:48:28 PM

Great job !!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: urmel on October 08, 2019, 03:00:36 PM
Fantastic!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: enry711 on October 09, 2019, 09:02:29 AM
It's beautiful! Very nice addition
Thank you :)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: xf-108 on October 13, 2019, 12:39:33 AM
It's awesome. :D
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on November 27, 2019, 06:41:06 AM
Any news on a release of this cracker?
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on November 27, 2019, 02:37:13 PM
No progress at present.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Wa99el on November 28, 2019, 03:53:59 PM
This looks really good and professional.  ]wav[

I have 1 question: The Hipper and the Prince Eugen are sister ships.
They are very similar. Maybe you can open a second slot called Pince Eugen
and copy the Hipper in.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on November 29, 2019, 02:20:31 PM
They were not completely identical but would look similar from a distance. First objective is to complete Hipper.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Wa99el on November 29, 2019, 03:42:44 PM
Roger that.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on February 07, 2020, 04:11:30 AM
Hippers sister ship Prinz Eugen. - WoWS Model. The existing model has the 1945 AA armament. I may change this to reflect its 1942 armament during Operation Cereberus.

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1qk3MTj/Prinz-Eugen.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5XdNxHCD)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: glibble on February 08, 2020, 09:16:16 AM
WOW Beautiful... :)

When IL-2 1946 meets World of Warships...
You have the best of both worlds!!!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on February 18, 2020, 10:52:24 PM
Hi Asheshouse just wondered if you had seen this over at flightsim.com
https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?searchid=75708537&page=2
Its a pilotable Admiral Hipper currently at this link but the page could change. Maybe helpful????
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on February 19, 2020, 01:41:41 AM
That link returns “no search results”
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: PO_MAK_249RIP on February 19, 2020, 11:13:33 PM
Same for me too for some reason? If you go onto flightsim.com, click file library then search files > fsx all files, it is still currently on page 2. There are lots of these available btw asheshouse many could be useful i believe?
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: enry711 on February 20, 2020, 02:26:40 AM
WOW asheshouse! Being an occasional WoWs player i'm astonished. It looks perfect :)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Piotrek1 on March 07, 2020, 12:31:51 PM
Hippers sister ship Prinz Eugen. - WoWS Model. The existing model has the 1945 AA armament. I may change this to reflect its 1942 armament during Operation Cereberus.
Hi asheshouse,  model looks fantastic probably adapt it to IL-2 standarts will be a quite difficult task but I hope that it succeeds.

Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on March 10, 2020, 04:09:10 AM
Model is working fine in IL-2.
LOD0, shadows, hooks complete.
Collision boxes in progress.
LOD1 and LOD2 still to do.
Then, at least, some placeholder damage meshes.
Work has been stalled for a while due to medical diversions, but these are diminishing now, so I hope to make more progress.
   
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hkx87LJ5/il2fb-2020-03-10-09-58-00-01.png) (https://postimg.cc/crpLp0B4)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Mick on March 10, 2020, 04:53:49 AM
... coming up very nicely ...!  :P

Just a small suggestion regarding the Arado 196 camo, not sure at all it was that green, but rather grey or dark green, like the ship ...  ;)

Here are the Bismark and Tirpitz AR 196:

http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads2&file=details&id=4939

... and here all my AR-196 skins that were based on a ship, including the one on Admiral Hipper (1940)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/hs4t3ra5poc8mfw/AR-196.7z/file

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: asheshouse on March 10, 2020, 05:30:00 AM
Thanks Mick. The Lo-Poly Ar196 came from a Silent Hunter model. What I really need is to extract the Ar196 model meshes from IL-2 and maybe use the LOD1 meshes. I've not got around to doing that yet.   
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Hans-Joachim Marseille on March 10, 2020, 07:35:35 AM
That looks very good. ash! Love the fine details. Awesome!  :)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: stanislao on March 10, 2020, 08:49:37 AM

 ;D Good boy ! Excellent choice for this model! I follow your progress with trepidation.  ;)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: urmel on March 10, 2020, 08:52:18 AM
Good news!!!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - Admiral Hipper - Heavy Cruiser
Post by: Piotrek1 on March 10, 2020, 09:13:57 AM
looking very good 8), and as I see it almost ready for action. 
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 09, 2020, 08:34:21 AM
Smaller subject for the next project perhaps. This is the Type 39 Torpedo Boat of which 15 were built. Employed in Biscay, The Channel, Northsea and Baltic.
 
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZRqpg3rn/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBZ4T4gn)

Armed with 4 10.5cm guns in single mountings and 2 triple 21in torpedo tubes, along with a variety of AA guns.
On this model AA comprises 2 twin 37mm guns, 1 quad 20mm and 4 twin 20mm.
Source of the model is WoWS, extracted by Maxromash.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: urmel on April 09, 2020, 11:36:42 AM
Great news!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 09, 2020, 11:53:59 AM
Smaller subject for the next project perhaps. This is the Type 39 Torpedo Boat of which 15 were built. Employed in Biscay, The Channel, Northsea and Baltic.
 
Armed with 4 10.5cm guns in single mountings and 2 triple 21in torpedo tubes, along with a variety of AA guns.
On this model AA comprises 2 twin 37mm guns, 1 quad 20mm and 4 twin 20mm.
Source of the model is WoWS, extracted by Maxromash.


... wow ... ! ... another very detailed KM ship in the dockyards ...!  8)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/agOJjnoTCmI
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 09, 2020, 12:33:06 PM
The Z39 is a Type 1936A destroyer. I am working on the T22, a Type 39. Much smaller type. A useful escort vessel.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 09, 2020, 12:38:53 PM
... ooops, just change a letter, Z to T, and you get a different ship ...!  :-[

"The German torpedo boat T22 was one of fifteen Type 39 torpedo boats built for the Kriegsmarine (German Navy) during World War II."

Source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_torpedo_boat_T22
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mission_bug on April 09, 2020, 12:49:50 PM
The Prinz Eugen is one awesome looking warship asheshouse, you would not want to be the enemy in the same sea that is
for sure, thank you very much, really appreciated. 8)


Take care and be safe.


Wishing you all the very best, Pete.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 12, 2020, 07:14:43 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/KjmhDDnh/Capture.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
T-22 Torpedo Boat escorting Prinz Eugen.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Piotrek1 on April 12, 2020, 07:28:14 AM
A great choice ]thumright[, the more apt that the T22 also operated in the Baltic Sea.

Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 14, 2020, 07:15:59 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/Qt2NgGXs/il2fb-2020-04-14-14-11-44-81.png) (https://postimg.cc/WF7PjyFf)
More details still to be added.

Original model is not made by me. Source of the model is WoWS, extracted by Maxromash.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: KingTiger503 on April 14, 2020, 07:38:44 AM
A Torpedo Boats nice,
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: urmel on April 14, 2020, 09:24:26 AM
It looks very good!!!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: stanislao on April 15, 2020, 06:35:22 AM
 
:) Beautiful torpedo boat! Would it be excessive for the load of use to add some members of the crew, perhaps to the machine guns ... just to give a touch of realism, more, to this jewel?     ;)   

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Hans-Joachim Marseille on April 15, 2020, 07:15:56 AM
@Stanislao: I second that!  Has been my thought longtime, especially since we do have deckcrews for CV's who make it all much more real! I also dream about sounds for ships like sirens or horns or maybe signal-lamps flashing etc. But maybe too much to ask, dunno what is possible gamewise... ;)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 15, 2020, 12:59:03 PM
Basic mesh import, including shadows and LODs is complete. Collision boxes still to be added.

(https://i.postimg.cc/W3pzr2w1/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDKsccyB)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: urmel on April 15, 2020, 03:08:10 PM
Fantastic!!!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 15, 2020, 03:29:50 PM
Basic mesh import, including shadows and LODs is complete. Collision boxes still to be added.

... incredible ...!!!

... shadows + LODs + Collision boxes for a ship ...!!!  o_O

Jeez, it's not everywhere that you can get this ...!  8)



Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 17, 2020, 06:34:18 AM
Another hull in the fitting out dock.

(https://i.postimg.cc/HsWr65nG/Capture.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 17, 2020, 07:07:41 AM
... and a big one it is ...!  :P
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 17, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Yes it is.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DfjHdxK9/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PNDSdzJy)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: poiana44 on April 17, 2020, 11:32:12 AM
Operation Cerberus is on the horizon...  ;)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Piotrek1 on April 17, 2020, 12:23:24 PM
Fantastic work! Thank you asheshouse, the new project looks also very interesting o_O 8).

Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 18, 2020, 08:50:34 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4MGZ2mF/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BX6VBhRF)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Piotrek1 on April 18, 2020, 09:47:18 AM
Both, the Arado and the mysterious warship :o ;) look superb, I'm very happy that the project is taking real shape 8).

Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 18, 2020, 10:13:46 AM
... the Arado is on the ship behind ...  8)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Piotrek1 on April 18, 2020, 11:42:43 AM
Oh yes, I see it now :-[, sorry Mick, it is probably old age :-X :P .

Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 19, 2020, 01:14:50 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/VkJsvJRf/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K1yhsvww)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 19, 2020, 01:36:04 PM
... Deutschland-class "Panzerschiff" Graf Spee ...?

ooops, silly me, Graf Spee only had one front and rear turret ...  :-[

This confirms I don't know much about ships ...!  8)

... my last guess, Scharnhorst  ...?
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 19, 2020, 02:10:07 PM
Last guess - spot on.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: KingTiger503 on April 19, 2020, 07:18:11 PM
I can’t wait for H-class Battleship to turn up.


Best Regards KT503
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 20, 2020, 01:18:23 AM
I’ve not got much interest in fantasy ships, however the Graf Zeppelin CV was maybe far enough advanced to be considered virtually a reality. My main focus tho is likely to remain with warships that saw actual wartime service.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 20, 2020, 01:21:37 AM
... I can't agree more ...!  ;)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Griffon_301 on April 20, 2020, 03:07:49 AM
Also cannot agree more! Those wet dream third Reich super weapons that never had a chance to get realised really don't belong into the sim!
We could use more Torpedo Boat class ships, Sperrbrecher, maybe a S-100 S-boat, maybe also the odd Hilfskreuzer...such ships would make sense...
The Scharnhorst/Gneisenau will be great additions too, I am looking forward to seeing these join the virtual fleet..
Maybe also a repaint for the Hipper as everything is here already to add it to the sim, we have the classfiles, the 3d model and the it...
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 20, 2020, 03:44:44 AM
...  8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/nLmcTQQ3/schnellboot-s100-carlo-cestra.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: KingTiger503 on April 20, 2020, 05:19:42 AM
The German Light cruisers Köln one of the Königsberg class light cruiser was commissioned In 1930s, until 1945, it was sunk by the American bombers. But Köln was modified a Landing platform for Experiment  FI-282 To the Testbed.


Best Regards KT503
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Hans-Joachim Marseille on April 20, 2020, 06:37:13 AM
Well don't wanna spoil the party here too much but don't we have a lotta planes that never made it to the battlefield or at least were just plans, maybe just prototypes etc.!? Who's "upset" about those masterpieces!?   o_O   Dunno if it is that "annoying" to have some fictious stuff as well. And "Grosser Kurfürst" for ex. would make my day a lot and could be the main attraction of exciting new missions and campaigns, maybe also in the future scenario "The Attack on the USA" when we now have Me-264 (new cockpit anyone!?)  and so could create a very new chapter with US-maps etc. .  Ships are amazing also in our game and this new quality Ashe is coming up with teases, wakes the appetite and makes wanting  more and even makes wanna wish a total overhaul of our fleets -seriously -  look at the fine details of the new ships. That is a milestone ahead if you ask me. :-*    And for Auxilary Cruiser I would love to see the "Orion" cos my dad was sailing on her. That would mean a lot to me. Just saying. Alright, where's "Mr. Scharnhorst"!?   :D ;)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Griffon_301 on April 20, 2020, 07:30:21 AM
Well, to be honest I do not like most of those fantasy planes either... If some people need their wet fantasies about German super wonder weapons that kill their opponents with one shot of a super duper 50mm gatling MKwhatever fine, but pls annoy the WarThunder crowd....
Also, what attack on the USA scenarios??? Did I miss something?  Nazi Germany did not have the resources to sustain an attack on the East Coast with anything but submarines.
If you read about the Me-264, you will see that it was far from being an Amerika-bomber as envisaged...it could maybe reach the East Coast, but the payload would be ridiculously small for that purpose and without an escort, the 264 would have just been a big fat target for any fighter attacking it...
And don't get me going on the fleet programs of the Nazis...complete and unfulfillable crap...
Sorry for the rant but IMHO it would make more sense to fill the few voids that are still there with regard to missing planes that really were used in the war and any ships are more than welcome, as long as they really operated in the war...
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 20, 2020, 08:29:08 AM
The super dreadnoughts were never a good way for germany to use its limited resources of steel. What would be more useful. One super dreadnought or alternatively say 1000 Panther tanks. Uses roughly the same quantity of steel. If they had proceeded with them then Britain could have countered by completing the Lion Class Fast  Battleships, two of which were already laid down. Along with the existing fleet carriers the RN would have maintained a significant lead.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 20, 2020, 09:04:19 AM
... very nice ships art by Carlo Cestra here:

https://fineartamerica.com/profiles/carlo-cestra

... and if you click on a ship, and then move your mouse pointer above it, you then can enlarge that green square up to 22161x13413 ...!!!

(https://i.postimg.cc/7Lbbsr2q/Pola.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1FQTjhK)

... like this:

(https://i.postimg.cc/k5F9vjj7/p2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VS63YFQh)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Griffon_301 on April 20, 2020, 09:27:38 AM
While the Italian cruiser designs were mostly based on flawed tactical and doctrinal thinking, they were really beautiful ships..
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 20, 2020, 09:47:29 AM
The Italian warships are some of my favourites. Its maybe about time that my Caio Duilio model had some company?
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: KingTiger503 on April 20, 2020, 09:48:24 AM
About that Köln light cruiser, one of the Königsberg class, was modified a landing platform.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 20, 2020, 09:51:48 AM
There was a FI-282 model around somewhere I think?
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: ben_wh on April 20, 2020, 05:33:18 PM
asheshouse,

Thank you for bringing us these highly detailed ships.  Your ships have always been stunning and these latest ones are no exception.

Your ships are so good that they remind me of experience from CFS2 days.  A modder at the time turned a combat flight sim into a semi-ship sim by introducing (at that time) highly detailed ship models into the sim (examples of those converted to FS2004 models can be seen below). 

There was no fine ship navigation control nor detailed ship damage modeling so it wasn't really a full fledged ship sim.  It had however camera views set up on different parts of the ship so that one could feel like a spectator/ crew on these ships.  It was quite something to watch from these angle in game while an air attack or naval battle unfolded. 

Thank you again.

Cheers,

(https://www.surclaro.com/addons/hd-images/destroyerhmslance.jpg)

(https://www.surclaro.com/addons/hd-images/battleshipiseijn19412.jpg)

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: stanislao on April 21, 2020, 05:17:18 AM
 :)  ;D   I support Mick's dream of one day having small German and Royal Navy torpedo boats
sail the seas of IL2 with a definition of the details worthy of the works of Asheshouse !!     


(https://i.imgur.com/ruUSc1A.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sLqKUPx.jpg)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 21, 2020, 05:24:42 AM
... yep, Stan, and the great advantage for the modder, is way less work to do than for a battleship for ex ...   8)

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/e0gO2D
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 21, 2020, 08:07:32 AM
Basic import of Scharnhorst is complete, but still a lot of work to do.  -- LODs, Shadows, Effects, Gun Activation, Collision Boxes.

(https://i.postimg.cc/P5KqCFDv/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K1kbVfJm)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Hans-Joachim Marseille on April 21, 2020, 08:10:30 AM
OMG... :)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 21, 2020, 08:12:18 AM
... Ashes, don't you worry with LODs, Shadows, Effects, Gun Activation, and Collision Boxes, she is already so beautiful like that ...!  :D
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 22, 2020, 03:16:06 AM
Nice model of Schnellboat S38 available here, but you need to register to download it https://gamemodels3d.com/games/warthunder/vehicles/germ-s38
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: stanislao on April 22, 2020, 05:21:09 AM

 ;D  Yeah! You have to pay five dollars to register on the site ... and then how much will they want to download the model? Could we collect it ...... just to say? 
 
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: stanislao on April 22, 2020, 05:33:12 AM

 :) This site has free downloads ... it is not of the same level, but the torpedoboats seem interesting enough ... take a look.

https://www.militarytrainz.com/t%C3%A9l%C3%A9chargements/mat%C3%A9riels-axe-mer/
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: erafitti on April 22, 2020, 05:57:00 AM

 :) This site has free downloads ... it is not of the same level, but the torpedoboats seem interesting enough ... take a look.


It's too heavy. :o

(https://i.postimg.cc/65F3WF8N/s100.jpg)

Un saludo.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 22, 2020, 07:25:39 AM
... jeez ...!  o_O

... with that many polygons, I bet this torpedo boat can fly too ...!  8)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 22, 2020, 07:47:06 AM
For 3$ you can get the War Thunder version from Gamemodels3d. It looks like a better model.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 22, 2020, 09:36:29 AM
:) This site has free downloads ... it is not of the same level, but the torpedoboats seem interesting enough ..

The files on that site are all in *.im format. They would need to be converted to *.obj or *.max to be of any use.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: stanislao on April 22, 2020, 09:37:31 AM
 :(   No, no, with such a polygonal weight, as you put it in the water it sinks like a stone ... !!!    ::(
    (If this is so angular I can't imagine the WarThunder one ..........)

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: stanislao on April 22, 2020, 09:41:16 AM

 :-[  Converting files is a religion that I don't know ... and then I think I'm agnostic ...... I'm sorry!    ;)

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: stanislao on April 22, 2020, 09:44:12 AM

 ;D   If it really costs only 3 dollars to download, I swear I will do it immediately and then I will send you the model to check!  ;)

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 22, 2020, 10:30:24 AM
If you go to the trouble of registering in order to get the model then i will definitely spend some time on it. My preference would be to work on the earlier S38 type which I previously linked rather than the later S100.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: stanislao on April 22, 2020, 11:33:38 AM

 :)  :D  ;D  Yes, dear Asheshouse, I signed up, but I don't understand why, as an Italian, the registration cost 5 dollars + the PayPal commission ... however then the download is included! If the files are transformable WarThunder is truly a gold mine for us! Check  ! LInk:     https://www.mediafire.com/file/p7v4poa87mvo0y4/WarThunder-Ships.rar/file  ;)

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 22, 2020, 12:17:24 PM
My work schedule is filling up. Some minor scaling issues with the import, but easy to sort out.

(https://i.postimg.cc/1RY4s5YW/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9zZcBV2T)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Squashman on April 22, 2020, 12:59:11 PM
My work schedule is filling up. Some minor scaling issues with the import, but easy to sort out.


Nice work Ashe. I've been following this thread with much interest -
Do I understand correctly that the 3d models on the site you mentioned can be purchased for import?

I have registered on the site but I think this is way beyond my skill level, but are there any tutorials explaining how to do this? What programs are needed etc.?
Any advice welcome - I would love to have some of those RN and US cruisers from the WOW list.

If anyone wants any of the models I will get them

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 22, 2020, 01:37:40 PM
The main software tools I use are 3ds Max, Photoshop and a text editor. Also some tools for creating class files. There is a lot to learn. Main tutorials for 3d work are here https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/board,207.0.html
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: ben_wh on April 22, 2020, 09:01:17 PM
Looking at the details of that Schnellboot, one almost wish for the boat to be available as a pilotable multi-crew 'craft' with machine gunner positions controllable.

Not a request, but wistful thinking perhaps.

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 24, 2020, 10:02:30 AM
Shadows, Hooks and LODs complete. 28cm, 15cm and 10.5cm guns animated. 3.7cm and 2.0cm quads and 2.0cm singles still to do along with all collision boxes.

(https://i.postimg.cc/VkpCDWpr/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21dy5hzr)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: urmel on April 24, 2020, 10:27:14 AM
Whow!!!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 24, 2020, 11:06:23 AM
.. you'll for sure feel like you're on holiday, when you switch from this big ship to the Schnellboot ...!  8)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: GAE_Chape on April 24, 2020, 11:19:24 AM
Shadows, Hooks and LODs complete. 28cm, 15cm and 10.5cm guns animated. 3.7cm and 2.0cm quads and 2.0cm singles still to do along with all collision boxes.

NO PICS QUOTE

HOLY MOLY!!!!!

Impressive, if you can install the large waves mods of dr strangelove and take that photo again ......

https://archive.org/download/WATER4LARGERWAVESV1.0/%21%23%20WATER_4%2B_%28LARGER_WAVES%29_%28V1.0%29.rar


It is beautiful, excellent work!

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: KingTiger503 on April 24, 2020, 12:06:01 PM
This Dreadnought is a Monster, but What about a Hindenburg class battleship.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Griffon_301 on April 24, 2020, 12:22:57 PM
The Scharnhorst and Gneisenau were more Battlecruisers than Dreadnoughts, a term that was reserved for real battleships which both the Gneisenau and the Scharnhorst clearly were not!
and as already said, a H-Class battleships is about as necessary for the sim as an Airbus Beluga... there are many ships still missing in IL2 that saw real use and would be more useful for campaigns than your wet-dream battleship; want examples? USN DE destroyer escorts; RN cruisers, no matter which class, useful for MTO scenarios; USN Allen M. Sumner DDs; RN Rodney class BBs; some more Italian DDs and CA/CLs; French CA/CL/DDs;

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on April 24, 2020, 01:29:45 PM
My interests will return to the Med after Scharnhorst is completed.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Griffon_301 on April 24, 2020, 01:33:17 PM
Yesssss....the Med sounds great :)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on April 25, 2020, 02:29:39 AM
My interests will return to the Med after Scharnhorst is completed.

... that's a hell of a piece of good news ...!  :P
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: poiana44 on April 25, 2020, 06:34:38 AM
My interests will return to the Med after Scharnhorst is completed.

Mr. ashehouse for President!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: stanislao on April 25, 2020, 07:01:52 AM
 
o_O   Wow! Asheshouse, now the requests are raining .. a hailstorm!
Please take it easy, we are not here to do naval collecting ......... ;)

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on May 06, 2020, 09:10:05 AM
I've been spending more time looking at the Schnellboot. Converting it to be compatible with IL-2 is possible but due to the way that the textures are applied the conversion would be quite time consuming. I think my time is better spent on the Regia Marina subjects at present. This would be a great subject to be made pilotable though.
So if anyone is keen to take on the java work required, including activating the gun positions, then drop me a PM.
 
(https://i.postimg.cc/FztccgZS/Capture.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/26N87HsC/Capture2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDSv27py)

(https://i.postimg.cc/kgZxqmbw/Capture3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jDHW4BvJ)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on May 10, 2020, 04:10:35 AM
Type 43 Minensuchboote - Possible side project?   -  Source: War Thunder
A very common type. Widely used in Northern Europe and Mediteranean and also built for the Rumanian Navy in the Black Sea.

(https://i.postimg.cc/qvdTqMSR/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rKgbYc8X)

(https://i.postimg.cc/mkjm44cm/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jnWH6G4f)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: bomberkiller on May 10, 2020, 04:31:27 AM
Quote
Mr. ashehouse for President!!!

+1   8)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on May 10, 2020, 09:21:52 AM
... at least Großadmiral ...!  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ntrTlnqpeg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjZF041UcXw
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on May 11, 2020, 02:09:55 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/rFDbj705/Capture2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GH1qh7jp)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on May 11, 2020, 02:40:20 AM
... just born, not yet her teeth ...  8)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on May 11, 2020, 04:37:47 AM
I think I've just about worked out the nuances of converting from War Thunder. Its a little different to WoWS models due to the use of Multi-Subobject materials. Also they include a lot of internal details and divisions which I guess are relevant to the way the damage modelling works, but not required in IL-2. The wires are not modelled as solid so do not remain visible far enough out, so may have to substitute solids?    --- Solved, by adding Layer1 to the mat file so as to drop the Alpha channel at the point where the wires would otherwise disappear.


(https://i.postimg.cc/3wfX9XSN/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jWNnS7rY)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on May 12, 2020, 09:42:19 AM
Basic fitting out is complete.

(https://i.postimg.cc/rmhbbV9Q/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ft9BShp9)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Mick on May 12, 2020, 10:51:39 AM
... brilliant, now she's got teeth ...!  8)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Piotrek1 on May 12, 2020, 12:52:26 PM
Bravo! nice work, with this amount of details, the model looks amazing 8).
Best regards,
Piotrek
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: stanislao on May 13, 2020, 04:34:53 AM

 :)  A jewel among jewels!   ;D

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on June 12, 2020, 12:35:31 PM
To enable use of the Object Viewer with new ships extract the two attached files into the i18n folder.

Entries have only been added for Scharnhorst, Prinz Eugen and T-22. If you want to add more entries the required format is similar.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/b7o5jzin1gsomwl/Ship_Object_Viewer_12-06-20.rar/file
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: asheshouse on October 10, 2020, 10:14:22 AM
This is the M Class Escort. Model sourced from War Thunder. With these models it is necessary to rebuild all the wires and railings to make them appear correctly in IL-2.
Import of the model is nearing completion. These ships were widely used in the English Channel for escorting coastal convoys and for mine laying.
In addition to guns they also carried two torpedo tubes midships. These were primarily for defence rather than attack.

(https://i.postimg.cc/xdmGYyN4/Capture.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cKstB3mR)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Griffon_301 on October 10, 2020, 10:43:09 AM
wow! another great addition!
IIRC the British dubbed them "Channel Destroyers" because they had at least the fighting power of the usual Destroyers (older WW1 leftovers mostly) that the RN used in the Channel flotillas....
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: jpten on October 10, 2020, 10:39:43 PM
"...In addition to guns they also carried two torpedo tubes midships. These were primarily for defence rather than attack.

  "No, officer.  These are only defensive torpedoes!" 
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine - WIP Projects
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on October 11, 2020, 06:07:46 AM
G R E A T ! ! !