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Gatrasz

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Re: PBJ 1C, 1D, 1G, 1H, 1Hc, 1J, Radome
« Reply #180 on: February 27, 2018, 06:00:18 AM »

I can't remember. Did Riken ever release the one with the radar on the nose?

Yes, it's the PBJ-Radome download link on first post. Based on PBJ-1D, I guess.

EDIT : This PBJ-Radome appears without loadouts in my BAT install. There was a PBJ-1JR before, in the v1 download probably, with radar on the nose and loadouts. I've read the whole thread again and saw that a v3 was to be released and never arrived ; maybe it could have featured more recent stuff, including the solid nose PBJ-1J by SAS~Csocso, impossible to know... By the way, the v2 featured PBjs have very heterogeneous loadouts based on the plane version and some of them still have underside turret instead of the search radar radome installed in its place.
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Re: PBJ 1C, 1D, 1G, 1H, 1Hc, 1J, Radome
« Reply #181 on: March 03, 2018, 09:49:37 AM »

Hi guys ! I did some research on the subject of PBJs possible ordnance, read some books, checked some websites (about VMB 611, 612 and 613 PBJ units mostly - reading old mission reports is quite fascinating ! :o ) and old photographs, and that's what I found for now. I was wondering if PBJ were used to carry ASM-N-2 Bat missile and did not find any proof or mention of this anywhere. Same thing for the GT-1 gliding torpedo ; this weapon was only delivered by 'regular' B-25J aircraft (already possible in-game), so adding them would be unhistorical but...could be considered.

At this point, what I can definitely propose is a revision project of the existing PBJ ordnance in-game more accurate to historical mission reports and globally harmonized. I have listed the actual in-game loadouts corrected (in bold letters) with historical data, gameplay concerns and Dreamk's pack options (here), considering the limitations I've found for each type (a few posts above) and with some suggestions (--in red) of my own. Anyone feel free to correct or disagree with my proposal  ;)

PBJ-1C      :    --no wing racks
  • 12x100-Ibs
  • 6x250-Ibs
  • 4x500-Ibs     --6x500 seems definitely too much
  • (4x)Depth Charges
  • Flares       --for all models maybe ?
  • Markers     --for all models maybe ?
  • 1xMk13 torpedo

PBJ-1D      :   
  • 60xParaF
  • 20x100-Ibs
  • 6x250-Ibs GP
  • 4x500-Ibs GP
  • 2x1000-Ibs SAP
  • (4x)Depth Charges
  • 8xHVAR 5'' rockets
  • 4x250-Ibs GP, 8xHVAR 5'' rockets
  • 4xDepth Charges, 8xHVAR 5'' rockets
  • 4x500-Ibs Incendiary Clusters   --I have seen 6x500 in reports, maybe with turret removed ?
  • 2x500-Ibs Incendiary Clusters, 2x500-Ibs GP
  • Flares
  • Markers
  • 4xSmokeTank     --M10 or M33, not sure...
  • 1xMk13 torpedo --or maybe Mk24/34, even if not historical

PBJ-1G/H/Hc      :  (with radar pod on starboard wingtip - this I can try to do
  • 60xParaF
  • 12x100-Ibs   --I have seen 6x100-Ibs in reports, by the way...
  • 4x250-Ibs GP
  • 4x500-Ibs GP
  • 3xDepth Charges, 1xFlare Mk_V
  • 4xDepth Charges   --only 2 in many mission reports
  • 8xHVAR 5'' rockets
  • 2x11.75'' Tiny Tims   --on belly racks or wings
  • 4x250-Ibs GP, 8xHVAR 5'' rockets   --3x250 according to many VMB613 reports
  • 4x500-Ibs GP, 8xHVAR 5'' rockets   
  • 4xDepth Charges, 8xHVAR 5'' rockets   --3xDepth Charges according to many VMB613 reports
  • 2xTiny Tims, 8xHVAR 5'' rockets --Tiny Tims on belly racks
  • Flares
  • Markers
  • 1xMk13 torpedo --or maybe Mk24/34. No evidence of use but always possible

PBJ-1J/1JR : (with radar pod on starboard wingtip - this I can try to do)
  • 60xParaF
  • 20x100-Ibs
  • 12x250-Ibs GP   --8 in bomb bay and 4 on wing racks ?
  • 6x500-Ibs GP
  • 2x1000-Ibs SAP
  • 6x500-Ibs Incendiary Clusters
  • 4x500-Ibs Incendiary Clusters, 2x500-Ibs GP
  • (4x)Depth Charges
  • 8xHVAR 5'' rockets
  • 2x11.75'' Tiny Tims   --on belly racks or wings
  • 6x250-Ibs GP, 8xHVAR 5'' rockets
  • 6x500-Ibs GP, 8xHVAR 5'' rockets
  • 4xDepth Charges, 8xHVAR 5'' rockets
  • 2xTiny Tims, 8xHVAR 5'' rockets --Tiny Tims on belly racks
  • Flares
  • Markers
  • 4xSmokeTank
  • 1xMk13 torpedo --or maybe Mk24/34, even if not historical
  • 1xGT-1 gliding torpedo --even if not fully historical
  • 2xBat rocket bomb --for fun, even if not fully historical

PBJ-Radome
  • Same as the PBJ-1D, but without dorsal turret ?
  • PBJ-1J loadout capacity, allowed by the reduction of weight ?
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Re: PBJ 1C, 1D, 1G, 1H, 1Hc, 1J, Radome
« Reply #182 on: March 03, 2018, 01:18:52 PM »

Hi Gatrasz, great search result,
I would be very pleased with the weapons that you presented here.  :)
When it comes to BAT missile, I mentioned them here:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,44790.0.html
however, the page that described this topic does not exist anymore. :-X  :(

Best Regards,
Piotrek
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Re: PBJ 1C, 1D, 1G, 1H, 1Hc, 1J, Radome
« Reply #183 on: March 03, 2018, 04:46:40 PM »

I took some time today and gave them all an upgrade of new tires , the engine cowling update and landing lights. We have to dress her up and then give her the proper accessories to take her out. :)
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Re: PBJ 1C, 1D, 1G, 1H, 1Hc, 1J, Radome
« Reply #184 on: May 14, 2018, 01:34:27 PM »

Hi Bombsaway, Have you managed to add new tires, engine cowlings and landing lights? will not to mention about new weaponry ;D :P :),  seriously speaking , any new update to this package would be very welcome.
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Re: PBJ 1C, 1D, 1G, 1H, 1Hc, 1J, Radome
« Reply #185 on: May 14, 2018, 01:38:27 PM »

Actually I forgot all about this one. :) I'll see what I can do this weekend.
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Re: PBJ 1C, 1D, 1G, 1H, 1Hc, 1J, Radome
« Reply #186 on: May 14, 2018, 01:48:34 PM »

I think many of the members of this forum are waiting for this package to be updated.. so we will be waiting impatiently :P ;D.
Best regards,   Piotrek
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Re: PBJ 1C, 1D, 1G, 1H, 1Hc, 1J, Radome
« Reply #187 on: July 05, 2018, 07:29:01 AM »

I think many of the members of this forum are waiting for this package to be updated.. so we will be waiting impatiently :P ;D.
That's a fact that the actual loadout, even allowing great fun, still look a little like 'beta stage' and are quite limited to allow some 'realistic' campaign building. I started a few weeks ago to build one with 4.12 C&C mod, based on the many mission reports I saw, and it looks very promising but, considering the late war operations, Dreamk's pack weapons would be a great addition (especially attacking japanese airfields with incendiary clusters, rockets for anti-shipping assaults or even Tiny Tim rockets, as apparently at this time of the war, aircraft torpedoes weren't much used anymore when rocket weapons could be set instead).
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Re: PBJ 1C, 1D, 1G, 1H, 1Hc, 1J, Radome
« Reply #188 on: January 17, 2019, 07:54:22 PM »

Not sure if Bombsaway ever got around to upgrading this pack, but since i haven't found any more info and the last post about it was almost a year ago i decided to start working on fixing up this pack so far ive only worked on the PBJ1Hc so far but i have gotten the 3D upgrades working on it as well as started to update the load outs



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Re: PBJ 1C, 1D, 1G, 1H, 1Hc, 1J, Radome
« Reply #189 on: January 17, 2019, 08:53:40 PM »

@rockdoon Thanks!
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Re: PBJ 1C, 1D, 1G, 1H, 1Hc, 1J, Radome
« Reply #190 on: January 18, 2019, 10:32:08 AM »

Hi rockdoon,
Great news! since this package appeared also appeared many new add-ons mainly armament so it deserves to be updating ;).
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Re: PBJ 1C, 1D, 1G, 1H, 1Hc, 1J, Radome
« Reply #191 on: January 18, 2019, 10:42:24 AM »

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