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Albatros D.I: Minor 3D corrections
« on: June 13, 2018, 10:42:00 PM »

Albatros D.I: Minor 3D corrections

Outcome from my first exercises to learn Gmax ;)

Minor corrections to external 3d model:
Exhaust pipe modified so it doesn't interfear with the centre struts.
Modified shadow, so it matches the 3d model.
Wires and struts adjusted, so they don't go through the wings.
Tested in DBW_1916 and DOF3.

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After:









Credits:
Based on earlier work by: OAW~Magpie, Lisek, GIO and Kant.
Mission_bug for his kind help answering all my Gmax questions.

Download:
I've uploaded the fix to the IL-2 page on my site.
http://vonoben.free.fr/

Cheers

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Re: Albatros D.I: Minor 3D corrections
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2018, 05:27:14 PM »

Very cool fixes!
Thank you very much vonOben  8) I like them.
Sometimes it is the litle details which make up for the big impression on an aircrafts good looks.
You did great with the 3d-fixing.

I have a small request for you, if possible. It would make the aircraft look more complete and looking
more like the real aircraft.
One small detail which has been overlooked on this aircraft model since the beggining and
could use a little change,  is the side radiator.
The original side-radiator on this aircraft was of a box-like shape and smooth on its side
and what we have now is also a box-like shape.... BUT with a very strange side "effect" blister portuding from its side.
When viewed from the front it looks like a small blister or pimple coming out on its side.
I found this to be very strange and could not find any of this design in any of my researches in
books or on the internet when I was creating a skin-template for this Albatros version.
So I left the design lines I made for the radiator in the skin-template , in the hopes that one day some one could
make it smooth and for it to look more realistic.
Didn´t anyone ever notice this strange radiator design before, or is it just me?

Thank you once again for making these fixes VonOben,
 it is one upgrade which I will surely use in my aircraft models.

This German beer is for you!



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Re: Albatros D.I: Minor 3D corrections
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2018, 04:26:16 AM »

I can have a look at the side-radiator, that would perhaps be a good new Gmax exercise for me.  ;)
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Re: Albatros D.I: Minor 3D corrections
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2018, 12:17:53 PM »

New side-radiator without any skin at this point:

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Re: Albatros D.I: Minor 3D corrections
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2018, 07:17:22 PM »



That looks great!
A realistic Albatros and its cool side beer refrigerator, errrrr.... I mean , side radiator.   ;D
I will buy it !

Looking good VonOben ! Cheers!

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Re: Albatros D.I: Minor 3D corrections
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2018, 04:52:13 AM »

I had som problem exporting the radiator from Gmax, but with an advice from Dreamk I eventually succeeded!  :)

First test flight with the new radiator skinned in IL-2:




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Re: Albatros D.I: Minor 3D corrections
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2018, 05:34:15 AM »



It´s looking great VonOben!  8) Mighty cool looking radiator. Very realistic.
Congratulations on a fine job. This was a part of this aircraft model that needed some attention.
Looks wonderful.
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Re: Albatros D.I: Minor 3D corrections
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2018, 05:14:32 AM »

Hi max

Thanks for the kind words  :)

However I'm not sure it is correct shape I've used.  :-[

I made it like in the picture:



but in the drawings in Windsock Datafile 100 - Albatros D.I-D.II it looks like this.



I've also seen photos with that shape in that book.

Do you know if there were different versions?

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Re: Albatros D.I: Minor 3D corrections
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2018, 05:59:27 AM »

to put your mind at ease,
I personally believe that you did a fine job at making the radiator look like the real thing.
What it needs now is a slight change in the SKIN details of it to wrap into the 3d-model better.  The old skins may not fit
properly the new 3d-model design.

I am not an aviation expert, but I have been around these series of aircraft for along time since its creation a few years back. I have lots
of books on it and lots of photos for references. I needed them to study its design and construction so I could make the skin-templates for
the model. Let´s just say that I dreamed about the albatros aircraft in my sleep  :D LOL

Even thought our 3d-model is not 100% correct, it does come very close to looking like the real aircraft. (Which I love very much)
It is just some details which need some little changes. You have done good with this new radiator design.
Now, (the player) you can zoom in to look at the airplane better and it has that iconic box-like design on its side, instead of the old version.

I usually never trust too much on drawings I see (technical, blueprint or artistic art) simply because there is always something wrong with them.
If I  get 5 diferent sets of blueprints off from books or the internet, they will all be a little diferent. This drives me crazy because it just sets
back my time schedule when I do a skin-template. I have to do extra research on things.
The only drawings I would accept as 100% correct would be original factory blueprints, and those are extremelly rare to discover.
The only things I will accept is photo evidence. Zooming into vintage photos and looking at how the things were made , or painted on the aircraft.

I will leave you with some photos so you can check out the details and agree that YOU did a nice job on this new design.
I will include some model images which are much clearer so you can see the details and also another flight-sim model so you can
notice their design for their 3d-model.
VonOben,  you did great, I congratulate you!

You probably know this guy, he is the young "Red Baron" with his first Albatros... LOOK at the side-radiators in the images.

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What you see in this last image I posted  looking at the radiator from behind, is what is on the drawing you posted
in your last post (Drawing top view).    This detail on the radiator inside, would probably need extra polygons to create in the 3d-model and
make it impossible to put on the flying model. I am not sure, but probably too many extra polys.
I like the simple design you made already.
So you did great, don´t feel sad.


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Re: Albatros D.I: Minor 3D corrections
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2018, 05:37:18 AM »


When will you make this new radiator available VonOben ?
I would like to test it in my aircraft and see if the skins need new details.

Judging by the pictures you posted earlier, I do say its great as it is.  No need for more changes.
Place those 2 cool radiators on the Albatros side and let´s fly this wooden-wonder-machine!


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Re: Albatros D.I: Minor 3D corrections
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2018, 02:24:44 AM »

Hi max

I'm making a new improved version as it was on the drawing and the picture you posted.

I hope to release it quite soon.

Thanks for your interest!

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Re: Albatros D.I: Minor 3D corrections
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2018, 02:32:19 AM »

Preview of the new radiator:
There are some display issues though  :-[, that I need help fixing before release.
I'll post a question about it over at the Tech Help : Making Mods section.

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