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Author Topic: Orient is Red - Krarsnyi Vostok - Part 1 v1.0 Ansaldo A1, Sikorsky S12, S12bis, S16-3 S16ser Moscam MB & MB bis  (Read 2777 times)

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Fresco23

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Installed successfully in DBW 1916! Flying well! Flying the s16, I just fought an eindecker to a standstill! He maintained a decisive advantage, but after I damaged him he withdrew.
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SUPER PACK!  8) I love those classic airplanes!
Thank you so much!

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Question for Dreamk......



Is this double rotary a bug or have I made a mess of my installation ?
I have version (3) DoF and version (4) 4.10

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Alfie
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Question for stiv_069......

I was unaware of the Krarsnyl Vostok project and have been researching it.....

http://sites.bu.edu/revolutionaryrussia/files/2013/09/Krasnyi-Vostok.pdf

http://www.academia.edu/30930781/Making_Uzbekistan_Nation_Empire_and_Revolution_in_the_Early_USSR

Do you know of any books /pdf's that explains what role aircraft had in the expedition  (airwar, reconnaissance, propoganda  ?)

Preferably in English  :D

Cheers

Alfie
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The double rotary is a hier.him bug - I''ll correct it.

The books by Marat Khairulin Russian Aviation Colours 1909-1922 (T1 to 4)  have been translated in English and are available on Amazon but deal mainly with camouflage and markings of Russian Air forces the period.
Same for the booklets by the defunct Insignia Magazine on the various Baltic Air forces of the period.
Militaria Ucrainica series has also issued a book on the Ukrainian air forces of the period (under the title "heroes of the sky") but alsos till untranslated
The best book on the subject is sadly only in Russian - Kondratiev & Khairulin - Civil War Airforces, but I have seen an independent english translation of part of its text running through RCW forums. I''l see whether I hace still a  copy of it somewhere on my disks.
You ahve also a number of Polish books on teh subject of the early Polish air force(s).
However a lot of very good and exhaustive information can be gathered on the ww1 aerodrome forum (http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/) - on specific subjects - look for instance for "L.W.F. Model V Tractor info" and you'll get a very detailed description of the Czech legiosn air forces involvement in teh RCW and the Siberia campaign. And such....
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Question for stiv_069......

I was unaware of the Krarsnyl Vostok project and have been researching it.....

http://sites.bu.edu/revolutionaryrussia/files/2013/09/Krasnyi-Vostok.pdf

http://www.academia.edu/30930781/Making_Uzbekistan_Nation_Empire_and_Revolution_in_the_Early_USSR

Do you know of any books /pdf's that explains what role aircraft had in the expedition  (airwar, reconnaissance, propoganda  ?)

Preferably in English  :D

Cheers

Alfie

Vanguard of 'socialist colonization'? The Krasnyi Vostok expedition
of 1920 - A typical non-scientific book. Until 1922 in Russia there was a civil war. For this reason, there were not any agitation units on their own. All of them went along with the Red Army. The same was in Turkestan.
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Many thanks to you both for the info !

stiv_069........wow, what a stunning collection of books....last shot especially   :P

I too am a collector of books on all subjects....and I get shouted at by Mrs Noakes who thinks our house will collapse if I buy any more   o_O  :) ;D :D :D :D :D

Cheers

Alfie
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this is only part of the books on this topic.

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Fantastic work. Very beautiful planes!
Interesting airplane models. A big thanks for planes!
Special thanks for the skins!
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Was looking forward longtime for these Sikorsky's; thanks a lot.  ;D

- a report back                tested S-12 only                   412,2 SAS 5,3 heavy on mods.

- had to rename Rotary file in     !      RotaryMotor for 4.12.2          to bypass conflicts with others ( Dr.I ? ).
- or otherwise I had an underpowered Rotary of old.

- S-12 working fine with a midair start.

- When tried to start the engine on ground or restart in midair had total crash of game to desktop; program "cease to work":
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[1:09:25 PM] java.lang.NoSuchMethodError
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.il2.objects.sounds.MotorSound.onEngineState(MotorSound.java:73)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.il2.fm.Motor.computeStage(Motor.java:1601)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.il2.fm.Motor.update(Motor.java:837)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.il2.fm.EnginesInterface.update(EnginesInterface.java:311)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.il2.fm.RealFlightModel.update(RealFlightModel.java:519)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.il2.fm.FlightModelMain.tick(FlightModelMain.java:1120)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.il2.engine.Interpolators.tick(Interpolators.java:222)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.il2.engine.Actor.interpolateTick(Actor.java:371)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.il2.engine.InterpolateAdapter.msgTimeOut(InterpolateAdapter.java:174)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.rts.MsgTimeOut.invokeListener(MsgTimeOut.java:73)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.rts.Message._send(Message.java:1217)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToObject(Message.java:1191)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendTo(Message.java:1134)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.rts.Message.trySend(Message.java:1115)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.rts.Time.loopMessages(Time.java:252)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.rts.RTSConf.loopMsgs(RTSConf.java:101)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:131)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:422)
[1:09:25 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
( start the engine motor sound  java:73 ??? )
- ..I compared to BAT version: ..I replaced AF5F8A326C3FA53C and resolved the issue.
- all 3 x AF5F8A326C3FA53C files provided in 5,30 version cause such problem.
- have not tested in a pure 412 SAS5,30 without other mods. ( yet ).

  Solution for me was to import of AF5F8A326C3FA53C from the BAT version. 
- of course I have no more HUD special info for rotary engine as a result.


- minor issue : constant repeat of message Engine OFF which prevent other messages such as Chocks IN, Chocks Away.
                             

- or simply must work with HUD messages OFF.

update: lost throttle power in other airplane ( Bf-109F4/Z ); have % moving but without power increasing; rotary was ON; I turned Rotary mod off at this stage. An SAS Modact 5,3 report.



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You must use the BAT version in BAT not the 5.30 - the files are different. look at 1st post
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