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Re: UP3 RC4 Patch Pack 301
« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2018, 08:31:43 AM »

Interesting.
The next line would have been the sound init: "Sound: Native library (build 1.1, target - P IV) loaded." - that's way before any mod files are being loaded.

Looks like we have to compare everything on a per-file basis.
Would you please open "cmd.exe" from your Ultrapack Directory and enter the following command:
Code: [Select]
dir /OGEN /S >up3files.txt...and send us the generated up3files.txt contents?
It'll be a lot of data, pastebin.com will be your friend when posting this.

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Re: UP3 RC4 Patch Pack 301
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2018, 10:03:42 AM »

Okay, so I downloaded everything all over again and installed the game from my friend's DVD instead of my own or the GOG.com version. Now, for some reason, it works. :o I feel like I should have saved the old installation for testing purposes, but I suspect the issue was most likely between the chair and the keyboard. Might have missed something anyway somewhere down the line.

Anyway, thank you for your time and help, Mike!
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Re: UP3 RC4 Patch Pack 301
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2018, 11:07:02 AM »

Glad to hear that it works for you now ES, see you in the skies :)

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Re: UP3 RC4 Patch Pack 301
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2018, 08:00:17 AM »

Hallo,

the same thing is happening to me as to Ensign_Steel, down to the last bit.

Fresh installation from original 4.07m, upgraded up to 4.10.1m, then UP-3.0RC4. And everything runs smooth and fine.

Finally Patch Pack 301,  activated, installed the full latest Selector as suggested (even though the very last version appears to be shipped in PP301), and confirmed in selector.

Now, boom, game starts, first splash sceen appears a few seconds and that's all ...

Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to benefit the effort of the enlightened contributors.

Now some data:

Console redirect, as for ES, logs the following in startuplog.txt:

  *** Library **** DT ****  Loaded *** 102
RTS Version 2.2
Core Version 2.0

Just in case it  might help, here the initlog.lst:

2018-05-12 23:27:00:259 (dinput.dll) : JVM Parameters injector activated
2018-05-12 23:27:00:275 (dinput.dll) : Applying JVM Memory Settings from IL-2 Selector...
2018-05-12 23:27:00:275 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xms444M
2018-05-12 23:27:00:275 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xmx444M
2018-05-12 23:27:00:275 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xss4096K
2018-05-12 23:27:00:291 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -XX:PermSize=64M
2018-05-12 23:27:00:291 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -XX:MaxPermSize=64M
2018-05-12 23:27:00:291 (dinput.dll) : Checking duplicate JVM Options...
2018-05-12 23:27:00:307 (dinput.dll) : Checking mandatory JVM Options...
2018-05-12 23:27:00:311 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Djava.class.path=.
2018-05-12 23:27:00:313 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xverify:none
2018-05-12 23:27:00:313 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xcomp
2018-05-12 23:27:00:313 (dinput.dll) : Final JVM Option List:
2018-05-12 23:27:00:328 (dinput.dll) : -Xms444M
2018-05-12 23:27:00:328 (dinput.dll) : -Xmx444M
2018-05-12 23:27:00:328 (dinput.dll) : -Xss4096K
2018-05-12 23:27:00:328 (dinput.dll) : -XX:PermSize=64M
2018-05-12 23:27:00:344 (dinput.dll) : -XX:MaxPermSize=64M
2018-05-12 23:27:00:344 (dinput.dll) : -Djava.class.path=.
2018-05-12 23:27:00:344 (dinput.dll) : -Xverify:none
2018-05-12 23:27:00:344 (dinput.dll) : -Xcomp
2018-05-12 23:27:00:360 (dinput.dll) : IL-2 Process ID = 000036DC
2018-05-12 23:27:00:360 (dinput.dll) : Starting Watchdog at C:\GAMES\Ubisoft\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 - UP3\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\bin\selector\basefiles\IL-2 Watchdog.exe 1
2018-05-12 23:27:00:413 (dinput.dll) : Watchdog process started.
2018-05-12 23:27:00:429 (dinput.dll) : Hooked "SAS_CreateJavaVM" function activated, injecting JVM Parameters
2018-05-12 23:27:00:444   (watchdog) : IL-2 Parent Process Handle = 00000180, ID=000036DC
2018-05-12 23:27:00:444   (watchdog) : IL-2 Watchdog started.
2018-05-12 23:27:00:460   (watchdog) : Splash Screen Mode = 1
2018-05-12 23:27:00:460   (watchdog) : Message Window Created.
2018-05-12 23:27:00:460 (dinput.dll) : Java Virtual Machine Initialization with additional parameters successful!
2018-05-12 23:27:00:528    (wrapper) : ProcessAttach, attached Processes =  1
2018-05-12 23:27:00:544    (wrapper) : Calling GetCommandLineParams()
2018-05-12 23:27:00:544    (wrapper) : MODS Folder = "#UP#"
2018-05-12 23:27:00:544    (wrapper) : No FILES Folder set.
2018-05-12 23:27:00:560    (wrapper) : Calling LinkIl2fbExe()
2018-05-12 23:27:00:560    (wrapper) : Trying to link back to C:\GAMES\Ubisoft\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 - UP3\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\il2fb.exe through LoadLibrary()
2018-05-12 23:27:00:560    (wrapper) : Calling CreateModsFolderList()
2018-05-12 23:27:00:575    (wrapper) : Scanning #UP# folder took 7 milliseconds.
2018-05-12 23:27:00:575    (wrapper) : Total number of modded files = 2398.
2018-05-12 23:27:00:591    (wrapper) : Calling SortList()
2018-05-12 23:27:00:591    (wrapper) : Sorting modded files list took 0.321 milliseconds.
2018-05-12 23:27:00:591    (wrapper) : Calling RemoveDuplicates()
2018-05-12 23:27:00:610    (wrapper) : Removing 0 Duplicates took 0.019 milliseconds.
2018-05-12 23:27:00:575   (watchdog) : Splash Screen Created.
2018-05-12 23:27:05:270    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  -1
2018-05-12 23:27:05:285    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  -2
2018-05-12 23:27:05:369    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  -3
2018-05-12 23:27:05:369    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  -4
2018-05-12 23:27:05:443    (wrapper) : ProcessDetach, attached Processes =  0
2018-05-12 23:27:05:443    (wrapper) : Total files opened = 2300
2018-05-12 23:27:05:443    (wrapper) : Total search time consumed = 0.793 milliseconds (0.000793434447 Seconds)
2018-05-12 23:27:05:443    (wrapper) : Search Time per File = 344.971 nanoseconds (0.000000344972 Seconds)
2018-05-12 23:27:05:459    (wrapper) : Average Search Iterations required per File = 5.7
2018-05-12 23:27:05:459 (dinput.dll) : JVM Parameters injector deactivated

And, just for comparison, the initlog.lst from a Patch Pack 216 installation:

2018-05-09 00:38:03:597 (dinput.dll) : JVM Parameters injector activated
2018-05-09 00:38:03:599 (dinput.dll) : Applying JVM Memory Settings from IL-2 Selector...
2018-05-09 00:38:03:599 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xms444M
2018-05-09 00:38:03:599 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xmx444M
2018-05-09 00:38:03:615 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xss4096K
2018-05-09 00:38:03:615 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -XX:PermSize=64M
2018-05-09 00:38:03:615 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -XX:MaxPermSize=64M
2018-05-09 00:38:03:615 (dinput.dll) : Checking duplicate JVM Options...
2018-05-09 00:38:03:630 (dinput.dll) : Checking mandatory JVM Options...
2018-05-09 00:38:03:630 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Djava.class.path=.
2018-05-09 00:38:03:630 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xverify:none
2018-05-09 00:38:03:646 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xcomp
2018-05-09 00:38:03:646 (dinput.dll) : Final JVM Option List:
2018-05-09 00:38:03:646 (dinput.dll) : -Xms444M
2018-05-09 00:38:03:662 (dinput.dll) : -Xmx444M
2018-05-09 00:38:03:662 (dinput.dll) : -Xss4096K
2018-05-09 00:38:03:662 (dinput.dll) : -XX:PermSize=64M
2018-05-09 00:38:03:677 (dinput.dll) : -XX:MaxPermSize=64M
2018-05-09 00:38:03:677 (dinput.dll) : -Djava.class.path=.
2018-05-09 00:38:03:677 (dinput.dll) : -Xverify:none
2018-05-09 00:38:03:693 (dinput.dll) : -Xcomp
2018-05-09 00:38:03:697 (dinput.dll) : IL-2 Process ID = 000023D4
2018-05-09 00:38:03:699 (dinput.dll) : Starting Watchdog at C:\GAMES\Ubisoft\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 - UP2\bin\selector\basefiles\IL-2 Watchdog.exe 1
2018-05-09 00:38:03:762 (dinput.dll) : Watchdog process started.
2018-05-09 00:38:03:800   (watchdog) : IL-2 Parent Process Handle = 00000180, ID=000023D4
2018-05-09 00:38:03:815   (watchdog) : IL-2 Watchdog started.
2018-05-09 00:38:03:815   (watchdog) : Splash Screen Mode = 1
2018-05-09 00:38:03:815   (watchdog) : Message Window Created.
2018-05-09 00:38:03:800 (dinput.dll) : Hooked "SAS_CreateJavaVM" function activated, injecting JVM Parameters
2018-05-09 00:38:03:931 (dinput.dll) : Java Virtual Machine Initialization with additional parameters successful!
2018-05-09 00:38:03:947   (watchdog) : Splash Screen Created.
2018-05-09 00:38:04:000    (wrapper) : ProcessAttach, attached Processes =  1
2018-05-09 00:38:04:016    (wrapper) : Calling GetCommandLineParams()
2018-05-09 00:38:04:016    (wrapper) : MODS Folder = "#UP#"
2018-05-09 00:38:04:031    (wrapper) : No FILES Folder set.
2018-05-09 00:38:04:031    (wrapper) : Calling LinkIl2fbExe()
2018-05-09 00:38:04:031    (wrapper) : Trying to link back to C:\GAMES\Ubisoft\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 - UP2\il2fb.exe through LoadLibrary()
2018-05-09 00:38:04:047    (wrapper) : Calling CreateModsFolderList()
2018-05-09 00:38:04:047    (wrapper) : Scanning #UP# folder took 8 milliseconds.
2018-05-09 00:38:04:063    (wrapper) : Total number of modded files = 2393.
2018-05-09 00:38:04:063    (wrapper) : Calling SortList()
2018-05-09 00:38:04:063    (wrapper) : Sorting modded files list took 0.291 milliseconds.
2018-05-09 00:38:04:078    (wrapper) : Calling RemoveDuplicates()
2018-05-09 00:38:04:078    (wrapper) : Removing 0 Duplicates took 0.012 milliseconds.
2018-05-09 00:38:16:890    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  1
2018-05-09 00:38:16:905    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  2
2018-05-09 00:38:17:159   (watchdog) : IL-2 Main Window created: "Il2-Sturmovik Forgotten Battles" (MaddoxRtsWndClassW), Handle= 0x002F0A86
2018-05-09 00:38:17:190   (watchdog) : Activating IL-2 Main Window (0x002F0A86) using SwitchToThisWindow()
2018-05-09 00:38:17:306    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  3
2018-05-09 00:38:17:323    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  4
2018-05-09 00:38:17:343    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  5
2018-05-09 00:38:17:359    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  6
2018-05-09 00:38:17:375    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  7
2018-05-09 00:38:17:412    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  8
2018-05-09 00:38:18:191   (watchdog) : Successfully activated IL-2 Main Window (Handle: 0x002F0A86)
2018-05-09 00:38:37:554    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  9
2018-05-09 00:38:38:236    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  10
2018-05-09 00:38:38:244    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  11
2018-05-09 00:38:46:775    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  12
2018-05-09 00:38:46:781    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  13
2018-05-09 00:39:01:031    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  14
2018-05-09 00:39:01:038    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  13
2018-05-09 00:41:42:180    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  14
2018-05-09 00:41:42:191    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  13
2018-05-09 00:41:42:410    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  14
2018-05-09 00:41:42:415    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  13
2018-05-09 00:41:42:751    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  14
2018-05-09 00:41:42:757    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  13
2018-05-09 00:41:43:058    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  14
2018-05-09 00:41:43:064    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  13
2018-05-09 00:41:43:400    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  14
2018-05-09 00:41:43:406    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  13
2018-05-09 00:41:50:804    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  14
2018-05-09 00:41:50:813    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  13
2018-05-09 00:41:51:028    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  14
2018-05-09 00:41:51:034    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  13
2018-05-09 00:41:51:334    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  14
2018-05-09 00:41:51:339    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  13
2018-05-09 00:41:51:641    (wrapper) : ThreadAttach, attached Threads =  14
2018-05-09 00:41:51:646    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  13
2018-05-09 00:41:59:315    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  12
2018-05-09 00:41:59:333    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  11
2018-05-09 00:41:59:333    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  10
2018-05-09 00:41:59:333    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  9
2018-05-09 00:41:59:674    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  8
2018-05-09 00:41:59:753    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  7
2018-05-09 00:41:59:838    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  6
2018-05-09 00:41:59:838   (watchdog) : IL-2 Main Window destroyed: "Il2-Sturmovik Forgotten Battles" (MaddoxRtsWndClassW), Handle= 0x002F0A86
2018-05-09 00:41:59:923   (watchdog) : IL-2 main window (handle 0x002F0A86) disappeared, checking process status.
2018-05-09 00:41:59:923   (watchdog) : il2fb.exe process exited safely with exit code 0.
2018-05-09 00:41:59:938    (wrapper) : ProcessDetach, attached Processes =  0
2018-05-09 00:41:59:938    (wrapper) : Total files opened = 82399
2018-05-09 00:41:59:938    (wrapper) : Total search time consumed = 2.165 milliseconds (0.002164942911 Seconds)
2018-05-09 00:41:59:954    (wrapper) : Search Time per File = 26.274 nanoseconds (0.000000026274 Seconds)
2018-05-09 00:41:59:954    (wrapper) : Average Search Iterations required per File = 6.9
2018-05-09 00:41:59:970 (dinput.dll) : JVM Parameters injector deactivated

Thank you in advance for any help you may provide!
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Re: UP3 RC4 Patch Pack 301
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2018, 08:32:57 AM »

You have PM 8)
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Re: UP3 RC4 Patch Pack 301
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2018, 03:08:48 PM »

With the update 4.13.4 being released should I patch from 4.12.2 to 4.13.4 or should I stay with 4.12.2 ?

Is the Mod/Patch compable with the version or not after a clean install ?

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Re: UP3 RC4 Patch Pack 301
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2018, 01:17:29 AM »

Neither nor.
Ultrapack is 4.10.1.

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Re: UP3 RC4 Patch Pack 301
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2018, 01:22:09 PM »

Waaaiiiit I was playing 4.12.2m without any problems  o_O Should I try installing under 4.13.4 ?
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Re: UP3 RC4 Patch Pack 301
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2018, 12:33:27 AM »

No matter what base game version you install UP3 upon, it will always be 4.10.1 when you run UP3 (and if it runs on that version that is).

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Re: UP3 RC4 Patch Pack 301
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2018, 08:39:27 AM »

Ok, thank you Mike
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Re: UP3 RC4 Patch Pack 301
« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2018, 01:56:24 PM »

Hi Mike,

I´m sorry, but have the same problem as mtzt with the new patch 301: "... splash sceen appears a few seconds and that's all ...."

Patch 216 runs fine up to now with the same patch-installer.

Log-file:

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2018-05-24 21:48:09:560 (dinput.dll) : JVM Parameters injector activated
2018-05-24 21:48:09:575 (dinput.dll) : Applying JVM Memory Settings from IL-2 Selector...
2018-05-24 21:48:09:575 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xms444M
2018-05-24 21:48:09:575 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xmx444M
2018-05-24 21:48:09:591 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xss4096K
2018-05-24 21:48:09:591 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -XX:PermSize=64M
2018-05-24 21:48:09:591 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -XX:MaxPermSize=64M
2018-05-24 21:48:09:591 (dinput.dll) : Checking duplicate JVM Options...
2018-05-24 21:48:09:606 (dinput.dll) : Checking mandatory JVM Options...
2018-05-24 21:48:09:606 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Djava.class.path=.
2018-05-24 21:48:09:606 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xverify:none
2018-05-24 21:48:09:606 (dinput.dll) : Adding JVM Option: -Xcomp
2018-05-24 21:48:09:622 (dinput.dll) : Final JVM Option List:
2018-05-24 21:48:09:622 (dinput.dll) : -Xms444M
2018-05-24 21:48:09:622 (dinput.dll) : -Xmx444M
2018-05-24 21:48:09:622 (dinput.dll) : -Xss4096K
2018-05-24 21:48:09:638 (dinput.dll) : -XX:PermSize=64M
2018-05-24 21:48:09:638 (dinput.dll) : -XX:MaxPermSize=64M
2018-05-24 21:48:09:638 (dinput.dll) : -Djava.class.path=.
2018-05-24 21:48:09:638 (dinput.dll) : -Xverify:none
2018-05-24 21:48:09:653 (dinput.dll) : -Xcomp
2018-05-24 21:48:09:653 (dinput.dll) : IL-2 Process ID = 00000F84
2018-05-24 21:48:09:653 (dinput.dll) : Starting Watchdog at C:\Ubisoft\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\bin\selector\basefiles\IL-2 Watchdog.exe 1
2018-05-24 21:48:09:684 (dinput.dll) : Watchdog process started.
2018-05-24 21:48:09:684   (watchdog) : IL-2 Parent Process Handle = 00000080, ID=00000F84
2018-05-24 21:48:09:684   (watchdog) : IL-2 Watchdog started.
2018-05-24 21:48:09:700   (watchdog) : Splash Screen Mode = 1
2018-05-24 21:48:09:700   (watchdog) : Message Window Created.
2018-05-24 21:48:09:700 (dinput.dll) : Hooked "SAS_CreateJavaVM" function activated, injecting JVM Parameters
2018-05-24 21:48:09:762 (dinput.dll) : Java Virtual Machine Initialization with additional parameters successful!
2018-05-24 21:48:09:778    (wrapper) : ProcessAttach, attached Processes =  1
2018-05-24 21:48:09:778    (wrapper) : Calling GetCommandLineParams()
2018-05-24 21:48:09:778    (wrapper) : MODS Folder = "#UP#"
2018-05-24 21:48:09:778    (wrapper) : No FILES Folder set.
2018-05-24 21:48:09:794    (wrapper) : Calling LinkIl2fbExe()
2018-05-24 21:48:09:794    (wrapper) : Trying to link back to C:\Ubisoft\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946\il2fb.exe through LoadLibrary()
2018-05-24 21:48:09:794    (wrapper) : Calling CreateModsFolderList()
2018-05-24 21:48:09:809    (wrapper) : Scanning #UP# folder took 7 milliseconds.
2018-05-24 21:48:09:809    (wrapper) : Total number of modded files = 2430.
2018-05-24 21:48:09:825    (wrapper) : Calling SortList()
2018-05-24 21:48:09:825    (wrapper) : Sorting modded files list took 0.293 milliseconds.
2018-05-24 21:48:09:825    (wrapper) : Calling RemoveDuplicates()
2018-05-24 21:48:09:840    (wrapper) : Removing 9 Duplicates took 0.014 milliseconds.
2018-05-24 21:48:09:825   (watchdog) : Splash Screen Created.
2018-05-24 21:48:10:371    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  -1
2018-05-24 21:48:10:386    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  -2
2018-05-24 21:48:10:433    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  -3
2018-05-24 21:48:10:433    (wrapper) : ThreadDetach, attached Threads =  -4
2018-05-24 21:48:10:496    (wrapper) : ProcessDetach, attached Processes =  0
2018-05-24 21:48:10:496    (wrapper) : Total files opened = 2300
2018-05-24 21:48:10:496    (wrapper) : Total search time consumed = 0.236 milliseconds (0.000235648593 Seconds)
2018-05-24 21:48:10:511    (wrapper) : Search Time per File = 102.456 nanoseconds (0.000000102456 Seconds)
2018-05-24 21:48:10:511    (wrapper) : Average Search Iterations required per File = 5.7
2018-05-24 21:48:10:511 (dinput.dll) : JVM Parameters injector deactivated




Can you help?

Thanks in advance!

Best regards

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Re: UP3 RC4 Patch Pack 301
« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2018, 10:32:49 PM »

Your issue is not the same like mztz.
Your issue is that you have other mods installed:
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2018-05-24 21:48:09:809    (wrapper) : Total number of modded files = 2430.
2018-05-24 21:48:09:840    (wrapper) : Removing 9 Duplicates took 0.014 milliseconds.
It's plain to see since there are no Duplicates in an unmodded UP3 Patch Pack installation.

Get rid of your addon mods and everything will work fine.

mztz by the way has received an excessive "all around" reply by PM but he didn't even bother to login since he reported his issues, just saying.
Consider all he reported as solved, because if the problem persisted, he would have come back.
And the fact that it got solved without even reading my PM means that the issue was self made and figured his fault himself.

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Mike
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