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[Bison_M]

Hello!

In the cockpits of which have been made originally for 410 when transferring those in the 412/413 visual distortions occur. (I used to think that it's just me, but now I saw that I was not alone).

So I dare to correct distortions in the 3D pilots cockpits for:

Lancaster

https://www.mediafire.com/download/h629hifd6pt3wt5/Lancaster_fix_pilots_cockpit.7z

Lincoln

https://www.mediafire.com/download/y2u7un51xsw9a3v/Lincoln_fix_pilots_cockpit.7z

and Shackleton

https://www.mediafire.com/download/dvl1ousxolh1dj8/Sheckleton_fix_pilots_cockpit.7z


It was the disappearance of TGA, or contrary flicker:






Now it is:



Install:

unzip and overwrite 3Do.


Best regards

[Korrigan]

Works perfectly in modact 5.3. Thank you, Bison_M.

[Epervier]

Thank you very much (409/UP2.01) !

[Mick]

Very important find, Bison_M, this may explain other cockpit flickerings, such as Freddy's Bf109E3 cockpit conversion by Catsy (at least the 4.09 version).

It is incredible that a tiny difference of 0,02 mm (measured by Epervier) between two joining panels can make a cockpit flicker ...! 

Many THX for sharing ... 

[SAS~Tom2]

Many thanks mate. 

[SAS~Tom2]

Mick, as for Freddy's BF-109 cockpits (marvels!) I think or better assume the flickering is not a texture issue..but rather mat file related. F_Red used very advanced lighting tricks for vivid cockpit lighting. Check the D.520 in various positions to the light and you see what I mean. 
Open the instrument mat files and check the ambient and diffuse and specular etc. The compare to other pits.

Chrs

Thorsten

[Bison_M]

I am glad that it was useful to you.

Best wishes!

[SAS~Monty27]

I am glad that it was useful to you.

Best wishes!

Useful?  Its fantastic Bison - Thank you!

[SAS~Malone]

i must add my thanks here, as well - nice job, Bison, much appreciated!

[Mick]

Mick, as for Freddy's BF-109 cockpits (marvels!) I think or better assume the flickering is not a texture issue..but rather mat file related. F_Red used very advanced lighting tricks for vivid cockpit lighting. Check the D.520 in various positions to the light and you see what I mean. 
Open the instrument mat files and check the ambient and diffuse and specular etc. The compare to other pits.

Chrs

Thorsten

THX for the tip, Thorsten, but I have already gone through the mat files tweaking quite a lot, to no avail ... 

Besides, what is very intriguing, is that you only need to switch cockpit lights ON, or even more weird, nav lights ON, to "fix" that bug ... 

That's why I think Bison_M's fix is very interesting, because his fix cures a bug that appeared after a conversion (from 4.10 to 4.12 or 4.13), which is the case for Freddy's E3 cockpit, extracted from IES, then converted ...

I asked several top modders what they thought about it, since this is way beyond my poor skills (but I am at least as stubborn as Freddy ...  ), and up till now, the only one who came up with a relevant explanation is Barnesy (@ Admins: I hope it is OK if I quote him here, regarding a technical point ...)

"... from what you are saying, it sounds as though the cockpit meshes have been miss aligned a little, which makes overlaying meshes tend to flicker as the game tries to figure out which mesh to show, if the overlay mesh is separated by a fraction the game reads one or the other, if you turn on light or anything that shows a reflection then the game switches to one overlay only, so no flicker ..."

What I personally do when I fly the E3 in the day time is switch cockpit lights ON, but I tweaked the night mat files so that the instruments light is barely noticeable ...

[SAS~Tom2]

OK that is interisting. TBH the first time I saw it I assumed it was a non IES issue but a conversion issue.

Well, if the chaps include an all new P-51 (B,C) next, I reinstall it. 

[bomberkiller]

Great Bison, thank you!