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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #120 on: September 15, 2015, 01:20:52 PM »

Douglas A26  :)
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #121 on: September 15, 2015, 01:27:15 PM »

Douglas A26  :)

I knew the Korea and Vietnam detail was good enough... way to go CirX! Lucky guess!

Here is the original photo, my grandfather (Spanish Air Force radio/navigator) took a photo of one of his friends in front of a (captured?) Invader at (presumably) Torrejón Air Base outside of Madrid, Spain. Obviously the resolution is not great but it can be made out as an invader... Does anybody know what that Invader was doing in Spain? Obviously it came from the USAAF; maybe captured from WWII when it maybe landed on Spanish territory in southern Spain or Morocco?


Your turn CirX  ;D
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #122 on: September 15, 2015, 01:30:57 PM »

Wow, great photo and story, thank you for sharing it. I knew it was either the Tigercat, the black widow or the 26, since they are the only ones I know of on the allied side that had leading edge intakes that were shaped and enlarged. The Tigercat ones were too oval, but I was pretty sold on the Widow, although I could not figure out what angle they took the picture from. Your clue about the engines settled it :)
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #123 on: September 15, 2015, 01:31:53 PM »

Oh, I only saw the korea clue now....damn, :D Could have gotten there 3 seconds faster.
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #124 on: September 15, 2015, 01:36:00 PM »

Oh, I only saw the korea clue now....damn, :D Could have gotten there 3 seconds faster.

I intended that clue as a dead giveaway lol!

Apparently (after some investigation), the Invader in the picture may very well be the one in this photo!

"On October 22, 1944, the aircraft Douglas A-26B-15-DT Invader (43-22342), piloted by Eugene L. Casale and John Jr. as the only crew member Hurek, returned to their base in England after a trip to Morocco, when the aircraft began to have problems; around half past eleven (am) the Invader flew and rolled over several times to try to land at Laxe beach but seeing that it was impossible to change course and headed to the Traba´s beach where they landed on it´s belly. Quickly began to reach people and two crew members refused to descend until the authorities had arrived; then they burned all documentation (it is clear that the Americans did not trust the Spanish authorities knew that these documents come to the Germans). Later the aircraft was dismantled, leaving only the structure was then scrapped and taken to Santiago."

But the picture was taken in the mid 1950's.... had 10 years really passed since its accident on the beach? Did it take that long to get it scrapped or was it in the process of dismantling in the photo (missing prop as evidence)? Maybe the photo was taken at Santiago? Who knows.
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #125 on: September 15, 2015, 01:36:30 PM »

So OK, give me a sec, I have a wicked one for you :)
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #126 on: September 15, 2015, 01:41:27 PM »

here we go:



no clues for now. If there in an expert out there they should get this immediately.
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #127 on: September 15, 2015, 01:41:58 PM »

Oh yes, to clarify, this is a plane.
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #128 on: September 15, 2015, 01:45:21 PM »

Ok... hmmm... Looks like a bomber type from the 1930's.... probably two engined. Based on that nose turret and cockpit, maybe a Potez 540?

If not a DB3/Il-4
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #129 on: September 15, 2015, 01:53:31 PM »

neither :)

Clue 1: (beware, it is misleading!) This type flew for the allies and also the axis, from the beginning of the war until 1944.
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #130 on: September 15, 2015, 01:56:39 PM »

Amiot 143? It is definitely a french aircraft you speak of...
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #131 on: September 15, 2015, 02:02:59 PM »

yes! Amiot 143!



Well done!
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