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philip.ed

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Re: 3D German 20mm Cannon Spiralsmoke
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2010, 02:23:01 PM »

Hmm, HG is right. I mean, with loads of aircraft and heavy AAA fire, my fps drops.
Also, if every gun was using this effect in combat, then you'd notice smoke textures disappearing and your props disappearing as well ;)

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Re: 3D German 20mm Cannon Spiralsmoke
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2010, 02:24:02 PM »

and aircrafts canopies disappearing :D

 
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Re: 3D German 20mm Cannon Spiralsmoke
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2010, 02:25:03 PM »

Yep, I had that as well once ;)
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Re: 3D German 20mm Cannon Spiralsmoke
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2010, 02:29:07 PM »

That would be nice, but..

1 - the Il2 game engine cannot handle all those 3D trails (sadly!)
2 - it would'nt be all too historical, since not all guns displayed such spiral trails. :)

Eexhaton is right with both points .

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Re: 3D German 20mm Cannon Spiralsmoke
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2010, 02:52:44 PM »

However, I'm still interested to see what you can do, panzer. I love trying out different mod variations ;)
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Re: 3D German 20mm Cannon Spiralsmoke
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2010, 02:38:48 AM »

Lol, I leave you guys alone for 1 evening (in my timezone) and see what happens! ;D

Thanks for making my point more clear HG!
Overall I feel some sort of guide or anything should come up for FX file modders.
I know it's good to experiment with all stuff, but with IL2 the limits are becoming more and more visible of what can and can't be done within the game FX.

So, Panzer1b, feel free to experiment, but keep in mind what's been said here. My attempt at 3D smoke already pushes the IL2 Game engine over it's limits.
If you plan to release something, be sure to test it properly - (during dense missions, play ingame tracks, adjust, rinse & repeat) - and give credits to the proper people.
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Re: 3D German 20mm Cannon Spiralsmoke
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2010, 08:16:34 AM »


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Re: 3D German 20mm Cannon Spiralsmoke
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2010, 09:08:29 AM »

The only real solution is changing class files so that the other cannons don't share effects with rifle-caliber MGs and such.  Having this effect for all guns (that have smoke trails) is very easy, but there is no way to pick and choose.  The nice thing about the MG 151/20 effect is that it is only shared by a few other German cannon (or maybe just one) and light cannon AAA.

HG, your INBOX is full.  :(
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Re: 3D German 20mm Cannon Spiralsmoke
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2010, 09:21:38 AM »


HG, your INBOX is full.  :(
;D That's my fault..

I suppose it would have been better if more guns and cannons had their own unshared effects, perhaps that'll still come, some day ;)
I'm not too happy with the shared effect atm. Because the AAA -20mm and 37mm - have such a big impact on FPS with the 3D smokespiral enabled. :(
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Re: 3D German 20mm Cannon Spiralsmoke
« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2010, 09:56:52 AM »

Oh , didn't noticed it's already full again  ;D
Thanks for notice AKD , I'll do some spring cleaning right now , yes , class files
editing would be an option to get rid of the other ground objects guns smoketrail and
sharing madness between each other  :D

@ Eexhaton  ;D PM's must go on  :)

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Re: 3D German 20mm Cannon Spiralsmoke
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2010, 05:32:52 PM »

anyone ever going to try to modify the core il2 engine, allowing in this case up to 100000 or so max particles, as well i have a computer that usually is colder then my house when i run il2

i feel no heat and i'd lov ethe engine to be upped to it's full potential allowing increased GPU/CPU load

my computer(laptop at that) makes il2 seem like microsoft word when it comes to resources

someone has to create a new exe or something that allows way more effects at once

then i can place like 20 4 barreled 20mm cannons and watch all the particles spawned at once
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Re: 3D German 20mm Cannon Spiralsmoke
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2010, 09:19:41 AM »

What are your laptop specs? I'm on a laptop, but I doubt it's as cold as you make your one out to be! :D
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