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SAS~CirX

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Fw 190 Bar-Out mod by Fucida
« on: July 16, 2009, 04:33:51 AM »

This is the original and legendary fw190 bar-removed and holes solved mod by Fucida.

We repackaged it for our mods folder and added a nifty new read me, as well as rehosted it here, all with his kind permission.

Download: http://storebror.it.cx/sas/archive/sas/othermods/Fucidas_190_baroutmod.zip

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For interest, a few years ago I did a project with Lulu, the Fw190A-6 in Jhb, and took time out to take this carefully set up foto that represent EXACTLY what the pilot sees in seated flight position.



For those otherwise intrigued, the little plate with the two hole on top of the dash were for the ammo counter lights, since their position was taken up by the cathode tube. The ruler in the picture was just incidental, something else we were busy with. The instruments you can see are british, as this A6 was captured and test flown after the war.

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Re: Fw 190 Bar-Out mod by Fucida
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2009, 08:45:53 AM »

Hi Cirx. Glad y'all are back.:)
I like the size of his 1 but it seems to mess up the early FW-190s sights and dimmers on my UP 1.8.
It appears up top in my MODS list.
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Re: Fw 190 Bar-Out mod by Fucida
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2009, 12:47:23 PM »

Yes, some sorting needs down at a stage for those 190's, but dont worry, we will get to them.
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Re: Fw 190 Bar-Out mod by Fucida
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2010, 06:52:15 PM »

ok, i know this thread is old, but i looked at the pictures and i dont see a difference between the 2
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Re: Fw 190 Bar-Out mod by Fucida
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2010, 07:28:58 PM »

Look at the bottom of the reticule glass structure and you will see that the reticule has been moved up in the screen shot actually the bottom bar from the wind screen has been removed. So the reticule is free of obstacle.
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Re: Fw 190 Bar-Out mod by Fucida
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2010, 07:30:34 PM »

oh wow, im blind, lol
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Re: Fw 190 Bar-Out mod by Fucida
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2010, 05:51:31 AM »

After examining the problem myself, I came to the conclusion that it's not the sight that's mounted too low, nor the refraction that should be, but isn't, modelled. It's also not the POV of the pilot that's mounted too high. The kernel of the problem lies in the fact that entire cockpit should be rotated for a few degrees relative to the plane (a mistake that can happen very quickly when building a plane).

As it is modelled in the original game, the pilot eyes (POV) are too high (!), aiming through the sight nearly into own nose, sighting line going barely above the "bar". The pow (position of the eye(s)) of the pilot should be lower (!), aiming through the sight at a small angle upwards from where he is aiming now. Since the direction of the guns is modelled correctly on the external model, the only explanation is that the cockpit is not positioned correctly - it should be rotated around the gunsight for a few degrees "forward" (keeping the POW fixed in relation to external model) in regard to the external aircraft model. This would make it correct with no need for auxiliary correcting via bar deletion. Bar was there historically, but the pilot couldn't see it in normal position since it was too low. If the pilot wanted to see the bar in reality, he'd have to rise his head a bit to be able to see over the top of the instrument panes and look downwards along the nose - which is exactly how it is modelled in the sim as a "correct" position.

I hope all this babbling makes sense, unfortunately it seems I've lost the pictures about the matter.  :(

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