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Author Topic: Aer. Macchi C-202 & 205 overhaul  (Read 23061 times)

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Sonny Tucson

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Re: AMT Aer. Macchi C-202 overhaul
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2012, 05:05:55 AM »

Hi Everybody

The original model is catastrophic !

This one and the 205 really need more than a lifting !.

These wings are so thick they make me sick ! :D
They look more like concrete walls than wings.
Compared to these the canopy still look like a jewel !. ( No offense here  ;))

When I think that this fighter was, at the time ,  the best from the Italian stable and praised for his Ferrari outline ,  gulp !

Nice and courageous work Red .

Sonny Tucson.
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LuseKofte

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Re: AMT Aer. Macchi C-202 overhaul
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2012, 07:20:14 AM »

I know what everybody is doing, it is just that this is not the first time constructive criticism appear in a finished mod. Overall it is happening every time a model come out. We have lost many modders  because of this, feeling their work is not welcomed.
Red Fox can handle it, but in long term these kind of remarks are wearing authors down.
I spoke in general, In wip treads these kind of comments can be helpful. In a finished mod we are only grateful.
I know no harm was meant , we are cool.
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Red_Fox90

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Re: AMT Aer. Macchi C-202 overhaul
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2012, 10:02:09 AM »

To be really really honest, something for the wings can be done.
Check page 1, i'll add a download link in the hope it can a make them a little bit better in the part near the fuselage.

Regarding the wheels i opted not to redo them. There are already excellent packs for changing them, and i don't want to create confusion or incompatibilities ;)

And about all the rest: niet, nisba, nada, no, not.
I don't intend on going farther with them. For now this is it. So i'm glad you appreciate them and are so enthusiatic about them to give me advices to make them better and better, but i stop here for now.
I hope you can understand and enjoy what you have for now.

Cheers!
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shardana

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Re: AMT Aer. Macchi C-202 overhaul
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2012, 10:12:18 AM »

Scaricata il primo giorno! usata due secpndi dopo e adesso posso aspettare con tranquillità per i nostri altri cavalli di razza. grazie red fox sei un Dio! hahaha
Downloaded the first day of publication, used within two seconds from downloading and now I can wait quietly for the rest of our fine  horses...... thank's red fox you're a god! hahah
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CWMV

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Re: AMT Aer. Macchi C-202 overhaul
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2012, 02:23:30 PM »

Looks great man!
Will give this a shot when I have some down time.

I can't believe some of you guys. I mean seriously, "oh hey this is great thanks but this is still totally wrong!" Isn't thebest way to show your appreciation.
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Spitwulf

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Re: AMT Aer. Macchi C-202 overhaul
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2012, 05:57:58 PM »

Amazing, really amazing!!! Thank you so much, Red_Fox!!!  :D



p.s. works without any problems with my C.202AS/CB. Now I'm completely happy!!!  :D
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Whiskey_Sierra_972

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Re: AMT Aer. Macchi C-202 overhaul
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2012, 12:20:37 AM »

Did you have installed it directly or adapted?

I'm asking because IIRC the AS/CB have a different plane folder name....
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Spitwulf

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Re: AMT Aer. Macchi C-202 overhaul
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2012, 12:42:08 PM »

Did you have installed it directly or adapted?

I'm asking because IIRC the AS/CB have a different plane folder name....

Installed directly. Ok this is the procedure:

step 1: copy all new meshes from Red_Fox90's folder AMT_Aer.Macchi_C. 202\3do\Plane\MC-202_XII(It) and paste into C202CB\3do\Plane\MC-202XIICB(it) and MC-202XIICB(Multi1). Copy and paste also the new wings. Overwrite if requested.

step 2: go to MC-202XIICB(it) and MC-202XIICB(Multi1) folders and open with your text editor the mesh named "WingLIn_D0" , then add these lines:

[...]

[Hooks]
_Clip18 <BASE>
_Clip21 <BASE>
_Tank3Leak <BASE>
_Tank3Burn <BASE>
_MGUN03 <BASE>
_MGUNDump03 <BASE>
_ExternalBomb01 <BASE>  <------- add this

[HookLoc]
0 1 0 -1 0 0 0 0 1 1.07128 1.33752 -0.08049
0 1 0 -1 0 0 0 0 1 -0.50802 1.33753 0.01766
-0.5 0 -0.866025 0 1 0 0.866025 0 -0.5 0.17975 -1.00956 -0.22945
-1 0 0 -5E-07 1 0 0 0 -1 -0.18168 -1.00956 -0.0237
1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1.12077 -0.0144 -0.08965
0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0.20454 0.02334 -0.19345
1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0.59 0.45 -0.41 <----- add this

[...]

save and close.

step 3: same way for mesh "WingRIn_D0"

[...]

[Hooks]
_Clip19 <BASE>
_Clip20 <BASE>
_Tank4Leak <BASE>
_Tank4Burn <BASE>
_MGUN04 <BASE>
_MGUNDump04 <BASE>
_ExternalBomb02 <BASE>   <---- add this

[HookLoc]
0 1 0 -1 0 0 0 0 1 1.07128 -1.33762 -0.08122
0 1 0 -1 0 0 0 0 1 -0.50802 -1.33762 0.01693
-0.5 0 -0.866025 0 1 0 0.866025 0 -0.5 0.14124 1.03299 -0.20797
-1 0 0 -5E-07 1 0 0 0 -1 -0.18168 1.03299 0.02003
1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1.12077 0.01433 -0.09038
0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0.20454 -0.02342 -0.19418
1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0.59 -0.43 -0.41   <---- add this

[...]

save and close.

step 4: enjoy the Red_Fox90's masterpiece with my modest mod  :D

Bye!
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Re: AMT Aer. Macchi C-202 overhaul
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2012, 12:45:12 PM »

Thanks a lot for your tips!

I'll do it right now!
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Gumpy

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Re: AMT Aer. Macchi C-202 overhaul
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2012, 06:02:06 PM »

With a little work on the original MC 202 hier HIM file your mod doesn't look bad on the MC.202,1942 version either Red_Fox. 
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Red_Fox90

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Re: AMT Aer. Macchi C-202 overhaul
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2012, 04:04:27 AM »

Gumpy, where does that 1940's version comes from? By the way, as far as i can see the CFs and blister haven't been changed to my new ones.
I'll see to implement it for all other variants in a next version, but the problem is that i'm utterly confused by exactly how many variants there are out there in the Il-2 skies. I knew only the ones that came in DBW...???

Grazie Spitwulf! Vedrò di aggiungere anche questa variante più avanti ;)
Thanks Spitwulf! I'll see to add that variant in future too ;)
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Re: AMT Aer. Macchi C-202 overhaul
« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2012, 04:08:36 AM »

Beautiful, thanks  ;)

Always loved flying the MC-202.
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