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Re: Speaking of Me109G-Series FM Cd
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2012, 07:28:33 PM »

Yep, around 20 seconds or 5 full turns of the flap wheel from what Ive read.
That is one cool thing about CoD, watching the ailerons droop as flaps go down.
Too bad its a busted...never mind.
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Re: Speaking of Me109G-Series FM Cd
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2012, 07:49:42 PM »

I though Freddy (histomod) got the flaps working as should in the cockpit. Did he not release it.. wait, nevermind that will never be standalone.
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Re: Speaking of Me109G-Series FM Cd
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2012, 07:50:55 PM »

Ya lets not open that wound again  :D
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Re: Speaking of Me109G-Series FM Cd
« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2012, 08:07:52 PM »

Yes. All in all I'm super happy with my FM.. hopefully it'll work with 4.11/4.12 too.. but I can't get any of the 109's to work except for the stock 4.11 ones... :(
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Re: Speaking of Me109G-Series FM Cd
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2012, 12:09:19 PM »

Hello Guys,

Lets speak about our last time ID and explored Bf109G10 Erla Werk Numer: 490362.

This year me and collegues made legall exploration of above mentioned aircraft, here some photos:

https://picasaweb.google.com/112862658812080836825/Bf109KarsbachHinzendorfAreaOfPommerenPresentInPoland?authkey=Gv1sRgCPmqiZXCsta_BA

After we agreed following ID of aircraft and pilot:

KIA: March 3, 1945
Bf 109G-10, Werknummer 490362, schwarze 9, 2./JG 3


In this maschine was installed following GEARBOX:
Gerät-Nr.: 9-13005 C-7
Änderungen : 11
Werk Nr.: 11029
Herstelle: bm


where "bm"- mean:
bm - AEG-Allgemeine Elektrizitaets-Gesellschaft, Abeteilung Zaehlerfabrik, Berlin

See technical data plate:



For me are interesting all technical documents and parameters , typ of used engine for this one Bf109G10 which belong to our pilot.
By the way used by Erla Leipzig typ of camufflage and colour of aircraft -- Serie: 490xxx-490800.Delivered to JG3 in November 1944.

I think that will be interested subject confirmed by real aricraft.

BR

KrisJG3   :)

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Re: Speaking of Me109G-Series FM Cd
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2012, 12:23:42 PM »

Technical data plate of Bf109G10 as above.   (...G-10 - Nov. 1944 - May 1945...)  ;)


If somebody has more interesting details about serie of Erla in range: 490xxx-490800 please contact on prive.
I need agree some technical details for this Bf109G10.

"...490000 – 490800 ~ Erla G-10 - many were fitted with DB 605/AS - small main/long fixed tailwheel ..."  ??? Is it confirmed information? From with source?

Which type of engine was used here ?
''...As early as 1942 Daimler had also been working on an upgraded D-series engine that could run on either C2 or C3 fuel. These engines did not see service until 1944 and were quickly followed by the 1,800 PS (1,775 hp) DB 605DB (running on B4 + MW-50 or C-3 without MW-50) and 2,000 PS (1,973 hp) DB 605DC. These engines saw widespread use in the late-war Bf 109 G-10 and Bf 109 K-4. ...'''
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler-Benz_DB_605

Dear ¿Ice-Eagle?

have you more interesting documents for version Bf109G10 from Erla ?

BR

KrisJG3
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Re: Speaking of Me109G-Series FM Cd
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2012, 01:18:02 PM »

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"...490000 – 490800 ~ Erla G-10 - many were fitted with DB 605/AS - small main/long fixed tailwheel ..."  ??? Is it confirmed information? From with source?

Which type of engine was used here ?
''...As early as 1942 Daimler had also been working on an upgraded D-series engine that could run on either C2 or C3 fuel. These engines did not see service until 1944 and were quickly followed by the 1,800 PS (1,775 hp) DB 605DB (running on B4 + MW-50 or C-3 without MW-50) and 2,000 PS (1,973 hp) DB 605DC. These engines saw widespread use in the late-war Bf 109 G-10 and Bf 109 K-4. ...'''
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler-Benz_DB_605

Dear ¿Ice-Eagle?

have you more interesting documents for version Bf109G10 from Erla ?

BR

KrisJG3
Well, the source for WNr.490 000 – 490 800 using the DB 605 AS engines are right from Erla itself. Allied bombing on the DB factory put a stop of the delivery of DB 605 DB/C engines for a few weeks, so they had to substitute with the AS engines they had on hand. Thats why you see before and after these WNr.'s using the DB/C engines. The 2000ps DB605ASCM (1.98ata) wasn't used until Feb/45.
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Re: Speaking of Me109G-Series FM Cd
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2012, 12:30:45 PM »

Hello Ice-Eagle,

Thanks for information. So it is sure that this Bf109G10 made by Erla Leipzig was with DB 605 AS ?
Have you more details about this engine, technical documents (Flugzeug-daten) , scans of his parameters ,....etc ?
By the way have you some photos of this engine , aricraft from serie 490000-49800 ?
It is interesting for me all about this one type of aircraft from Erla.

I collect more information about crashed Bf109G10 (Erla) Werk Nr.:490362.

From which source You have your last information about bombing DB ? Have you more details about date when this part was sent to units like JG3 ?

BR

Kris
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Re: Speaking of Me109G-Series FM Cd
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2012, 02:27:06 PM »

Date: 45.03.03.
WNr.: 490362
Damage: 100% 
Unit: 2. / JG 3

Pilot: Gunter Rabeler, 2./JG3, "Black 9'' , KIA: Karsbach / Hinzendorf - area: Pommern.

Typical Erla camouflage, AS engines you can tell from oil piping bueles lower fron cowl, & engine supports that go around the
DB 603 supercharger. If you need foto of 490xxx batch G-10, I can provide.

Specs for DB605AS engine is what you want? I can provide.

Source for Bombing of factories are right from the book 'the mighty eighth'.

My great Uncle, flew with 4./JG 11 & I./JG 77.
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Re: Speaking of Me109G-Series FM Cd
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2012, 03:38:13 PM »

Yes , It is true . I was one of the man which help to find this wrack.
info.
This is the reason why I looking for more detail.
I have to You anothe question about one pilot from JG3 which was from JG77.
Please provide all what you have about aircrafts from this Erla serie. I need also example of camufflage this serie.
I think we will talk on prive about detail :)

Have you photos your great uncle from Pommern area in 1945 or the Oder river front ?
I know one KIA pilot interesting me from JG3 which was member of JG77 before ....on prive :)

Ps
"...If you need foto of 490xxx batch G-10, I can provide.

Specs for DB605AS engine is what you want? I can provide. ...

ok, please :)


BR
Kris
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Re: Speaking of Me109G-Series FM Cd
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2012, 09:51:29 AM »

Excellent example of 490xxx batch camouflage scheme
http://www.forcedlandingcollection.se/LW/LW124-Bf109.html

Every Erla example you can possibly imagine, and many more 109's
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/

DB 605 ASM specs
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Re: Speaking of Me109G-Series FM Cd
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2012, 10:59:33 AM »

So whiche one was used in this serie Werk Nr.490362 delivered to JG3 in October -November 1944 ---  DB605 AS or DB605 ASM ??

Have you information for which DB605 was used gearbox as below:

Gerät-Nr.: 9-13005 C-7
Änderungen : 11
Werk Nr.: 11029
Herstelle: bm

Have you technical data for version C-7  ????
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