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Dreamk

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Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
« Reply #60 on: February 23, 2014, 01:12:49 PM »

Indeed the Koolhoven 51J appears as such but the 51W appears with the name He45
as its class (Koolhoven_FK51W.class) includes mistakenly the line
Property.set(class1, "iconFar_shortClassName", "He45");
instead of
Property.set(class1, "iconFar_shortClassName", "FK51W");
I'll change that and upload a fix in the coming days
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Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
« Reply #61 on: February 23, 2014, 04:00:26 PM »

Thank you, dreamk  :)
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Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
« Reply #62 on: September 23, 2014, 04:10:22 PM »

Works in 4.12 ;)
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Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
« Reply #63 on: June 03, 2015, 02:36:24 PM »

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[8:33:12 PM] Spawn.get( com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Koolhoven_FK51W ): com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Biplanexyz
[8:33:12 PM] java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Biplanexyz
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Koolhovenxyz.class$(Koolhovenxyz.java:22)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Koolhovenxyz.<clinit>(Koolhovenxyz.java:748)
[8:33:12 PM] at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
[8:33:12 PM] at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.rts.Spawn.get(Spawn.java:39)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.rts.Spawn.get(Spawn.java:28)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.preloadAirClasses(Main.java:216)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1646)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1579)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:212)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:432)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
[8:33:12 PM] java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError
[8:33:12 PM] at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
[8:33:12 PM] at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.preloadAirClasses(Main.java:218)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1646)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:1579)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:212)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:432)
[8:33:12 PM] at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)

I am running 4.12.2m.
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Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
« Reply #64 on: June 04, 2015, 01:01:17 PM »

Hi dirtbloxxMC, whats the problem?  Did you remember: To fly this plane you'll need to install the Spanish bombs. ?
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Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
« Reply #65 on: June 04, 2015, 01:11:26 PM »

Yes, I have the spanish bombs.
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Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
« Reply #66 on: June 04, 2015, 04:28:09 PM »

Which version of the Koolhoven have you installed - the original one or an adaptation? The log indicates that the mother class of the Koolhovens (Koolhovenxyz) calls for the class Biplanexyz - but It does not in my original mod.
 Biplanexyz is used as a mother class by other planes (Breguet XIX, Potez25, Osprey, Hispano E-30, Vildebeest) but NOT by the Koolhovens.
I would advise to re-download from the first post in this thread and reinstall completely - use AutoDiffFM or copy the FM files from the "parasol5" pack 4.09 adaptation by Epervier (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,26407.msg277616.html#msg277616), if you want to play in 4.12 (the mod was written for 4.10)
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Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
« Reply #67 on: February 23, 2017, 02:30:35 PM »

flying 4.13.2 sas modatc 6.2 grateful
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Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
« Reply #68 on: August 04, 2018, 03:55:12 PM »

With all due respect of Epervier's work , if is there any other way to have Koolhoven FK51 operating in 4.12 without installing an "parasol5"?.
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Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
« Reply #69 on: September 01, 2018, 04:55:34 PM »

I Wonder if the version with the Jaguar IVa engine wasn't a single seater. One of the story's I found on a Dutch modelplane site states that because of the embargo it was becoming harder for Koolhoven to get engines for the planes ordered by spain. He could lay his hand on second hand Jaguar IV engines from Armstrong Whitworth Argosy  airplanes. These engines were longer and heavier than the Wright engines. And so they had to move the seat of the pilot to the rearseat and cover the frontseat. Ten were delivered, the last six couldn't be delivered and were destroyed on may 10th 1940 when the Koolhoven factory was bombed. So I think we need a new 3d for the Jaguar version. And also a small adjustment in the classfile (only two guns in the wings) and FM (singleseater-just one crew and  slightly more fuel-room of frontseat was taken by extra fueltank-, and also the centre of gravity somewhat more in front.

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Re: Koolhoven FK51 (Wright Whirlwind & Jaguar IVa) - update 01
« Reply #70 on: September 02, 2018, 01:47:44 AM »

No - There is a confusion here:

The Spanish machines were equipped part (11 machines) with an Armstrong Siddeley Jaguar (serials 5117, 5118, 5120 to 5129) and part (15 machines) with a Wright Whirlwind R-975-E1  (serials 51102 to 51107, 51109 to 51117)

The first FK-51 machine (ex-prototype, serial 5101) equipped with an Armstrong Siddeley Cheetah IX was also delivered to Spain

In addition an unique machine (PH-AMP, serial number 51108), equipped also with a Jaguar was delivered as a mono-seater with a closed cockpit. This transformation had been made at the Koolhoven factory to assess the possibility of using the FK-51 as a  mail plane. It would be soon re-modified in Spain into a two-seater, after a brief evaluation as makeshift night fighter.


Concerning the Dutch machines:

A) All the Dutch LVA (Army air component) machines were equipped with an Armstrong Siddeley Cheetah IX
1) the first 10 machines ordered by the Dutch LVA (serials 5102 to 5111), were unarmed training machines - similar to regular production but with a more rounded tail fin (except for the 5107 which has the definitive tail shape). Their rear fuselage is fabric-covered.
2) the 15 machines delivered to the LVA in 1937 (serials 5133, 5135, 5137 to 5139, 5143, 5145 to 5152) had a machine gun under the left upper wing, and the rear fuselage in aluminium
3) the 29 machines ordered by the LVA in 1937 and delivered in 1938 (serials 5162 to 5181, 5194 to 51101, 51123) had also a machine gun in the rear seat position.

These training machines had an optional cover for the rear seat position to train for night flight

B) The Dutch MLD (Marine air component) machines (serials 5112 to 5116, 5130, 5153 to 5161, 51124, 51125) were equipped with a Wright Whirlwind R-975-E1 and were delivered in three batches in 1936, 1937 and 1938.

C) The Dutch LA-KNIL ( Dutch East Indies Air component) machines were equipped with a Pratt and Whittney Wasp junior
They had 2 machine guns in the upper wing. A total of 60 machines were the subject of  4 successive orders, among these 45 machines reached the KNIL before May 40, the last 20 of these machines having enlarged wings. On the last order of 15 machines, 6 of these machines (serials 51146 to 51151) were under construction and destroyed in May 40.

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