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vanir

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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2011, 04:16:05 PM »

Oleg never included the WER settings of the P-40 or any of the Zeros and probably just imposed the same limitation on the grummans.
P-40s are missing about 300hp under 5-8000ft, Zeros are missing about 120hp for take off, etc.
It's a very big job to redress all these individual aircraft, as you do some the others all stand out more. Eventually the job is to go through every single FM in the entire sim/game using good info like the documentation at above mentioned site.

I no longer have time to be a modder, but when I've dipped into fm modding in the past, it was always a very huge task before anyone doing it. People have been working on it plane by plane for years, there are so many it is still going to take many years, we'll be old men when we finally say, ah IL2 is completely finished now :D

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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2011, 05:10:44 PM »

Apparently, the F6F FM will be revised in the TD 4.12 patch.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2012, 09:37:03 PM »

The hellcat with the stock FM is a loser. Try flying the F6F-6 mod. You can pork it with fuel/stores to tweek it a bit. Works for me.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2012, 02:48:53 AM »

4.12? ???

4.12 = 2013 :P



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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2012, 02:59:56 AM »

I agree, better the FM gurus here cook something up than waiting for TD.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2012, 03:10:14 AM »

Zero seems to retain too much 'e,' but that is for another thread...lol
Maybe it's not so much then that the US F4F and F6F need some tune-up, but the Zero series needs a bit of a tone-down aswell? (In terms of; getting looked into, the least)

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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2012, 09:25:32 PM »

Zero seems to retain too much 'e,' but that is for another thread...lol
Maybe it's not so much then that the US F4F and F6F need some tune-up, but the Zero series needs a bit of a tone-down aswell? (In terms of; getting looked into, the least)

One of the things that U.S. pilots testing the first captured A6M2 noted was that it didn't have a constant flow carburetor, so the engine would cut out if you flew inverted for any period of time - just like the early Spitfire versions. AFAIK, that's not modeled in the game.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2012, 09:09:22 AM »

True, true. I'm not sure why it was left out, I've noticed that feature on other non-carburetor aircraft (mainly the MC 200).
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2012, 10:05:14 AM »

Zero seems to retain too much 'e,' but that is for another thread...lol
Maybe it's not so much then that the US F4F and F6F need some tune-up, but the Zero series needs a bit of a tone-down aswell? (In terms of; getting looked into, the least)

One of the things that U.S. pilots testing the first captured A6M2 noted was that it didn't have a constant flow carburetor, so the engine would cut out if you flew inverted for any period of time - just like the early Spitfire versions. AFAIK, that's not modeled in the game.

It is
At least in DBW
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2012, 12:30:53 AM »

Stratodog @ what fuel did you test your fm at.When you did your speed test.You have to remember american performance charts are all at 100% fuel and combat ready.The russians have a tendency to fib on there performance charts where they use 50% fuel on clean loadout and NO AMMO.Thats one of the reason why russian planes are over modeled in this sim.The hard data they put in is wrong. just to point that out. For Example the mighty I-185 which never saw action and was canceled the wing loading on that bird is 47lbs per square inch and the P-51D with 100 fuel and combat ready it is 39lbs per squad inch. why is wing loading so important becuase wing load will tell you at minimum turn speed and also @ corner velocity the plane will turn tighter and the radius of the circle will be smaller. But in this sim the P-51D could not stay in the turn even with both planes with same Engery State.But in reality the P-51D Has a lower wing loading and should be able to beat the I-185 in a Two Circle Dogfight.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2012, 10:22:39 AM »

I always use 100% fuel for testing.  It would be a bit silly not to.  :)

I haven't flown the new 4.11 Hellcat yet.  Supposedly they did some work on the Hellcat FM.  I'm curious to see what you guys think of the new 4.11 Hellcats.
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Re: F6F Hellcat
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2012, 03:58:18 PM »

It does seem to perform better.  At least in climb.  I can't say for sure for the other characteristics, other than increased stabililty.
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