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Boelcke

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Re: UP 3.0 RC4 patch (Cumulative) has been released *29-07-2011*
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2011, 12:59:41 PM »

Cirx, thx for joining in  :)

Concerning to the weapons_ru.dat in UP 3.0 RC1 the loadouts were as following for the G6 for example:


#####################################################################
# Bf-109G-6
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Bf-109G-6.default                   Default
Bf-109G-6.R1-SC250                  R1: 1xSC 250
Bf-109G-6.R1-AB250                  R1: 1xAB 250
Bf-109G-6.R1-SC500                  R1: 1xSC 500
Bf-109G-6.R1-AB500                  R1: 1xAB 500
Bf-109G-6.R2-SC50                   R2: 4xSC 50
Bf-109G-6.R2-AB23                   R2: 4xAB 23
Bf-109G-6.R2-WfrGr21                R2: 2xWfr.Gr.21 Mortars
Bf-109G-6.R3-DROPTANK               R3: 1xType D Droptank
Bf-109G-6.R4-2XMK108                R4: 2xMk 108 Gunpods
Bf-109G-6.R6-2XMG151-20             R6: 2xMG 151/20 Gunpods
Bf-109G-6.R2R3-TANKWfrGr21          R2R3: 2xWfr.Gr.21 + Droptank
Bf-109G-6.R3R6-MG151-20             R3R6: MG 151/20 Pods+Droptank
Bf-109G-6.R3R4-2XMK108              R3R4: Mk 108 Pods+Droptank
Bf-109G-6.U4-MK108                  U4: Mk 108 Nose Cannon
Bf-109G-6.U4R2-MK108WfrGr21         U4R2: Mk 108 + 2xWfr.Gr.21
Bf-109G-6.U4R3-TANK1XMK108          U4R3: Mk 108 + Droptank
Bf-109G-6.U4R4-3XMK108              U4R4: Mk 108 + Mk 108 Gunpods
Bf-109G-6.U4R6-MK1082XMG151-20      U4R6: Mk 108 + MG 151/20 Pods
Bf-109G-6.U4R3R4-3XMK108      U4R3R4: 3x Mk 108 + Droptank
Bf-109G-6.U4R3R6-MK1082XMG151-20    U4R3R6: Mk108 + MG151/20 + Droptank
Bf-109G-6.U3-NOMG131               U3: Recon (No MG131s)
Bf-109G-6.U3R3-TANK-NOMG131         U3R3: No MG131s + Droptank
Bf-109G-6.none                      Empty

Choosing the MK108 loadout, in QMB it was and still is shown as U4-MK108.

Vampire and myself did a lot of trials and testing after every new RC of UP and had always problems with the loadouts for the G6 types. Hades mentioned that the bug was fixed, but as you can see we had still problems, myself especialy with the U4-MK108 loadout. I found in the weapons_ru.dat file from DBW that there are different loadouts included. That confuses me/us much more. What we need is an information what´s the up to date loadout for the G6 types in UP RC4. For UP i couldn´t find any new informations.

I have tested the U3_MK108 loadout for the G6 in DBW and it worked for me, interestingly in the arming screen it is also shown an U4-MK108 loadout - but as said this worked the first time for me since RC1 was released.

I´m not familiar with java code/files so it´s difficult for me to ccheck your files Cirx, i will try it. If the weapons_ru in DBW 1.4 is updated, it will be better to wait for this.


Concerning the U4R3-MK108 loaodut: till 4.09 there wasn´t such a loadout for the G6, it was U3R6 (MK108 with MG151 Gondolas), in 4.10 stock it is MK 108 + drop tank.


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Re: UP 3.0 RC4 patch (Cumulative) has been released *29-07-2011*
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2011, 04:01:21 PM »

You guys are talking about something completely different from the loadout bug. You are talking about the weapons_ru file. That file is meaningless, it is purely cosmetic. I have not looked at a weapons RU file in 3 years. They are always out of date or wrong.

Look at the ACTUAL loadout names in the classfile. that is the loadout name that has to appear in the mission file, not the entry in the weapons properties file, which is , as I said, completely meaningless.

Weapons_ru.properties, is only there to provide a little more descriptive explanation of what the loadout is, when it is displayed in the arming screen. That's it. It is not used anywhere else, and has not bearing or influence on anything.

Boelce, just open any of those java files with text or wordpad, then look at the bottom of it. You will see lists of loadouts, for example this one from the F2:

I mark the area you are interested in red:

        com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft.weaponsRegister(class1, "default", new java.lang.String[] {
            "MGunMG17si 500", "MGunMG17si 500", "MGunMG151ki 200", null, null, null, null, null, null, null
        });
        com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft.weaponsRegister(class1, "1sc250", new java.lang.String[] {
            "MGunMG17si 500", "MGunMG17si 500", "MGunMG151ki 200", "PylonETC900 1", "BombGunSC250 1", null, null, null, null, null
        });
        com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft.weaponsRegister(class1, "4sc50", new java.lang.String[] {
            "MGunMG17si 500", "MGunMG17si 500", "MGunMG151ki 200", "PylonETC50Bf109 1", null, null, "BombGunSC50 1", "BombGunSC50 1", "BombGunSC50 1", "BombGunSC50 1"
        });
        com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft.weaponsRegister(class1, "droptank", new java.lang.String[] {
            "MGunMG17si 500", "MGunMG17si 500", "MGunMG151ki 200", "PylonETC900 1", "FuelTankGun_Type_D 1", null, null, null, null, null
        });
        com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft.weaponsRegister(class1, "field_mod", new java.lang.String[] {
            "MGunMG17si 500", "MGunMG17si 500", "MGunMG151ki 200", null, null, null, null, null, null, null
        });
        com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft.weaponsRegister(class1, "none", new java.lang.String[] {
            null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null

I have no idea what these are cxalled in the weapons_ru.properties file. As I said, I never look at it, and wont be surprised if they are all wrong. Working out and Filling out the correct entries for the weapons_ru file for any plane is something one should be able to do 5 minutes before learning how to mod, it is just dead easy if you can look into the classfile, just time consuming and irritating, which is why most of us dont bother with it, in the hope that some enterprising young modder will do some of them. Alas, properly dedicated and willing-do-sweep-the-monestary-step student modders are virtualy non existent.

Amusingly, (present company excluded) I find 9/10 times when someone complains about RU entries, they are people 100% capable of fixing it and simply uploading the corrections instead of just pointing out the problem and expecting someone else to fix it.

can you imagine il2 if I or anto or hades or sani had that attitude?  :D

OK, I have to get back to DBW 1.4, lots to do. Good luck with it all!
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Re: UP 3.0 RC4 patch (Cumulative) has been released *29-07-2011*
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2011, 01:07:30 AM »

What Cirx says is correct. Don't get obsessed with what the weapons.properties files writes because its COSMETIC only.
I have done some mistakes to mine weapons.properties file, this should be OK though.
Put them in the correct subfolder (#UP#\STD\i18N\..) and check.
Piet feel free to use this as well :)

Cheers.
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Re: UP 3.0 RC4 patch (Cumulative) has been released *29-07-2011*
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2011, 01:28:25 AM »

thx guys, but keep in mind that we didn't had anything else except the weapons_ru file to check for the loadouts before you posted these java files, that's reason why we asked for clarification.

So, thx a lot, will check it out :)

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Re: UP 3.0 RC4 patch (Cumulative) has been released *29-07-2011*
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2011, 07:33:19 AM »

You are talking about the weapons_ru file. That file is meaningless, it is purely cosmetic.

LOL... do you remember that line, Boelcke? ;)

Hades, in my eyes, one of the major issues is that since RC1 the #UP# content never was updated.
You may say today that releasing it was a mistake in the first place but reading so many postings that can be connected to people having old junk in their #Up# and rely on it.... you may want to reconsider. You may save yourself a lot of stupid questions if this is kept up to date.
just my 2 cents.
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Re: UP 3.0 RC4 patch (Cumulative) has been released *29-07-2011*
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2011, 07:55:00 AM »

Hi Hades,

Is there any chance you can provide alternative d/l mirrors?  Gamefront just will not work for me. :(

Many Thanks :)

Hawkers :)
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Re: UP 3.0 RC4 patch (Cumulative) has been released *29-07-2011*
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2011, 09:00:15 AM »

I too would like alternative mirrors; and/or with zip-ed/7z-ed options if posible please Hades.
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Re: UP 3.0 RC4 patch (Cumulative) has been released *29-07-2011*
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2011, 09:18:26 AM »


Share-Online.biz:
UP_3.0RC4_Client.exe

Rapidshare:
UP_3.0RC4_Client.exe
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Re: UP 3.0 RC4 patch (Cumulative) has been released *29-07-2011*
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2011, 09:20:38 AM »

you can "unzip" the exe with 7zip, you know that?

right click, "7zip"-> "open" and 7zip will open it just as any zip file.
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Re: UP 3.0 RC4 patch (Cumulative) has been released *29-07-2011*
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2011, 09:26:49 AM »

Hades,

Many Thanks - you are a Gentleman and a scholar! :)

Hawkers :)
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Re: UP 3.0 RC4 patch (Cumulative) has been released *29-07-2011*
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2011, 09:45:37 AM »

Karaoke anyone?


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and though Java was a little bit frightening,

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Ha-des came through with expert - timing,

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Re: UP 3.0 RC4 patch (Cumulative) has been released *29-07-2011*
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2011, 11:12:29 AM »

:) nice lyrics :P thanks for the alt mirror links Hades ;D attempting dl  ???
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