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Individual Mods and Packs for IL-2 1946 => Aircraft => US_Singles => Topic started by: Gerd on November 10, 2010, 02:48:22 PM

Title: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: Gerd on November 10, 2010, 02:48:22 PM
Gerd'F8F-2 Beta Version0.4

This MOD is Beta Virsion.
And,there are some limitations.

-Un Completed LOD.
-Cockpit model is alpha version.
-etc...

However, it plays and enjoy it, please:D

Gerd'F8F-2 Beta Version0.4
-Cockpit refine(but alpha version)
-3D model refine
-Apend weapons

======install=====
Requirements... You need SAS's mod environment(mod activator and UI) or HSFX for F8F-2's to work.

Put F8F-2's folder into MODs folder(Please make it if there is no MOD folder).
And then make a back up copy of air.ini and add following lines.

case SAS:
 #SAS\STD\com\maddox\il2\objects\air.ini

case HSFX:
 Files\com\maddox\il2\objects\air.ini

F8F-2             air.F8F2 1                                    usa01 DESERT
F8F-2Racer        air.F8F2Racer 1                               usa01 DESERT


======uninstall=====
Delete these lines.
And then delete F8F-2's folder in MOD folder.

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Credit
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Default 2Dtexture :Gerd
Special 2Dtexture :Gerd,Gumpy,SAS~Malone,101tfs(Now constracting)
3Dmodel :Gerd
FM/EM :Mr J.S
Sound :Mark "Fire Ball" Rooks.(Remixed by Fly!)
JAVA :Gerd
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special thanks
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Special Adviser of FM:stansdds
Historical investigation of cockpit:stansdds
TAK: Exporting tools

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Skin Template
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https://www.mediafire.com/?mn0od4p48cobnwo (https://www.mediafire.com/?mn0od4p48cobnwo)




Wepons MOD for Gerd'F8F-2 Beta Version0.4

======install=====
Requirements... You need SAS's mod environment(mod activator and UI) or HSFX for F8F-2's to work.

Put Wepons_for_F8F's folder into MODs folder(Please make it if there is no MOD folder).

======uninstall=====
And then delete Wepons_for_F8F's folder in MOD folder.

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Caution
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This MOD is not needed by UP3 & DBW.

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Credit
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100 lbs bombs and some napalm tanks :DWB
(3d model: Zorin,classfiles: HaDeS)

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special thanks
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technical advice: Birdman

Down load site:
https://www.mediafire.com/?wd5r55dliz3nmdd

Find the new link in this thread:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,30271.0.html

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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: WhamO on November 10, 2010, 02:50:49 PM
YES PLEASE
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on November 10, 2010, 03:09:24 PM
Finally!!! Thanks oh thanks!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Birdman on November 10, 2010, 03:59:04 PM
F8F has been JapanCat's WIP for a long time, so he may have that bird in more advanced stage.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 10, 2010, 04:21:07 PM
JapanCat tried to be judged that an other one's F8F project has stagnated, and to be developed.
However, his project doesn't have progress more than  one year.(His project  progress is  F8F model  was modified from F6F only)
I was judged that his project had stagnated.
But..
If anyone don't want this F8F in SAS that I will not open to the public this F8F. :(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: F22-Raptor-2006 on November 10, 2010, 04:23:53 PM
Yeah whatever, say what you like.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duffys tavern on November 10, 2010, 04:25:28 PM
Yes, by all means. It would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: JapanCat on November 10, 2010, 06:58:56 PM
If work of 100% Gerd(TAK@Tainan Kosho) does not I have any problem.

If ReadMe you insult isn't written, it's no problem.

If you do not write my real name and privacy in the public BBS, I do not have any problem.

Or would you like still to quarrel?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on November 10, 2010, 07:27:00 PM
That's very beautiful!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 5./JG54_s0crazty on November 10, 2010, 08:21:37 PM
Very nice Model and please act like Grown up People..... Very nice Gerd looking forward !
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on November 11, 2010, 02:07:10 AM
Please, Gentlemen, be calm.

Japancat, you had earlier cooperation with Gerd on the subject of Bearcat? That is good. It is always good to see People do some Teamwork.
Now your Bearcat is halted for a reason?
No problem for Gerd to do his own Bearcat then, correct?
And it is still possible for you two to join efforts on this new plane / monster...

And i am sure that Gerd has seen and observed the "Tainan mod pack" Disaster. He, is not going to disappoint you, because he is a Member of SAS. I do not think members of SAS do this kind of insult.
;)

Big engine, Big Prop, small Fuselage, 6 Guns...
And fly such a Plane off an aircraft Carrier. Nothing for "noobs". Need good training i think.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: F22-Raptor-2006 on November 11, 2010, 02:59:24 AM
Just to point things out Gerd is part of the Tainan group. JapanCat left the Tainan group after complications because of the attitude that was within that group. Also JapanCat is a significantly higher ranked member on SAS than Gerd is and has the support of the admins here at SAS.

Unfortunately frequent issues like this are unknown by the majority so it's not your fault that you don't understand the problems and complications between modders but this one is like a little one on one war between both of them. So just let them deal with each other ;) Just stand back and play the observing role.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on November 11, 2010, 03:08:25 AM
Ah now i see. This Thread is a potential Minefield then, eh?

Still, cannot hurt to calm the waves.
anyway, its not a problem. if they have their own, private problems, there are things like mail, skype, msn, where these things can be handled.

Or is it more fun and have a big mudslinging here on the board? Hmmm...
Only if it involves hot chicks! bring it on!
Big fat Grin!  :P

(http://cdn.holytaco.com/www/sites/default/files/images/2009/Festival_Girls_Mud_Wrestling__9.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: F22-Raptor-2006 on November 11, 2010, 03:13:38 AM
Put it this way, it's the kinda case where you wouldn't talk to the other guy unless you had to... so when their paths cross as it does now then you get this and the rest of the time the paths are on opposite sides of the earth lol. Anyway back on topic now.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 11, 2010, 05:25:43 AM
If work of 100% Gerd(TAK@Tainan Kosho) does not I have any problem.

If ReadMe you insult isn't written, it's no problem.

If you do not write my real name and privacy in the public BBS, I do not have any problem.

Or would you like still to quarrel?

Do not worry.
3D model is created entirely from zero.
Therefore, this 3D model is nothing more than mere data yet on the Metasequoia.

 I am thinking no problem that  creating a MOD.
 I do wrong?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on November 11, 2010, 05:54:38 AM
Hope this plane can be released. We have waited along time to get it.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: JapanCat on November 11, 2010, 07:10:00 AM
Do not worry.
3D model is created entirely from zero.
Therefore, this 3D model is nothing more than mere data yet on the Metasequoia.

 I am thinking no problem that  creating a MOD.
 I do wrong?

I do not have any problem

If it is work of 100% you, it is good.

I think.
As for anyone, the project is free.
Though I want to complete my F8F, I am very busy.

Thank you very much. JapanCat
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on November 11, 2010, 08:37:15 AM
Whoever works on an F-8F has my full sympathy. I love this little mighty plane and always wished to fly it in IL-2.
Carry on , gents..
--Thank you--
Tom
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on November 11, 2010, 08:58:30 AM
Excellent news. Thanks to both of you. Hope you can import the plane to the game correclty.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Bombnick on November 11, 2010, 09:08:26 AM
Looking forward to defrosting this beast! As powerful engine as possible in as small airframe as it gets...  8)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: stansdds on November 11, 2010, 12:10:13 PM
Off to a good start there!  One suggestion:  you can eliminate the brace in the canopy.  All F8F-1's and most F8F-2's were delivered with a canopy that lacked any bracing.  The brace aft of the headrest and armor was introduced sometime before F8F-2 production ended and the new canopy was retrofitted to many Bearcats that were overhauled for export to other nations. 
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 11, 2010, 01:22:30 PM
Off to a good start there!  One suggestion:  you can eliminate the brace in the canopy.  All F8F-1's and most F8F-2's were delivered with a canopy that lacked any bracing.  The brace aft of the headrest and armor was introduced sometime before F8F-2 production ended and the new canopy was retrofitted to many Bearcats that were overhauled for export to other nations.

You will be able to choose to the following by editing hier.him. :)
- Rollbar presence
- Canopy frame presence
- Exhaust stacks shape
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 11, 2010, 01:39:13 PM
and..In the future :)

- Spinner presence
- Wingtip presence
- Stretched tail presence
- Low drag canopy..
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on November 11, 2010, 01:49:00 PM
and in the *empty* loadout you have no guns... but a Bearcat Racing Machine!

:D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 11, 2010, 02:04:53 PM
This is the Front View.
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on November 11, 2010, 02:20:30 PM
Gerd is looking lovely!! Can't wait to test it. Also really like the options that let the end user make a plane at his own taste! Thanks a lot
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: razor1uk on November 11, 2010, 02:32:45 PM
Eagerly awaiting with drool dripping expectation... Good luck etc and peaceful construction wishes to Gerd.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: nick10 on November 12, 2010, 03:01:43 AM
beautiful
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on November 12, 2010, 10:50:09 AM
Argh, loks awesome! Look forward to it!

Cheers
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 13, 2010, 01:56:24 AM
I am making main gear now.
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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Batbomb on November 13, 2010, 02:05:25 AM
Looks awesome! Really great.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: stansdds on November 13, 2010, 05:32:38 AM
Yep, that's definitely a Bearcat, something that a late 1945+ war with Japan definitely needs.

The list of selectable options for this bird sounds great.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~highlander_262 on November 13, 2010, 06:13:38 AM
The only part of a bearcat that looks off, always looks like it's on stilts  ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on November 13, 2010, 06:19:53 AM
yea, needs some serious clearance for that prop...

gonna be a handful to handle. i already have trouble  with the Hellcat...
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on November 13, 2010, 06:47:56 AM
I will love to see the little bird painted in what if schemes for USN WW2 squadrons, good for invasion of Japan!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: stansdds on November 13, 2010, 11:36:37 AM
Digging the prop into the deck was a real potential in the real Bearcats.  This was a fighter that you really wanted to fly off the ground with little or no tail coming up first.  Same with landing, a good three point landing was the most desirable.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 13, 2010, 08:10:52 PM
F8F shock absorber is able to move this much.
And, F8F's propeller and the ground clearance is very tight. :D
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duffys tavern on November 13, 2010, 08:14:28 PM
Ouch!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on November 13, 2010, 11:12:27 PM
This is beautiful work Gerd! Thank you. :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 14, 2010, 09:06:33 AM
In a little more, UV mapping begins. :)
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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on November 14, 2010, 09:14:25 AM
looking great, Gerd! fantastic work!  :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Docholiday on November 14, 2010, 09:18:12 AM
Yeah   realy nice bird !

Thank You Gerd    ;D


Doc
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: si1va on November 14, 2010, 12:33:49 PM
Looking REALLY good, top job Gerd
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: dietz on November 14, 2010, 06:58:17 PM
Oh Wow..I wondered when someone would get to this beauty...it looks very very nice at this stage...
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Batbomb on November 15, 2010, 08:53:29 AM
Thats what I call quality. This model is simply wonderful!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: JG54Spookie on November 15, 2010, 12:11:53 PM
Beautiful work!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Birddog36 on November 16, 2010, 07:46:37 AM
Looking Great!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: max_thehitman on November 16, 2010, 05:18:43 PM

Alright,
since everyone said it looks like a nice great airplane, I will say the opposite!
It looks very UGLY .  :P

But I like flying in ugly airplanes!

 ;D Very beautiful 3D model Gerd.
Good luck with this project!

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Stanko-01 on November 17, 2010, 06:33:25 AM
Im with max.BearCat is ugly and rugged aircraft,and i love flying these planes. 8)
Great model Gerd.
Looking forward to it! ;)

Best Regards,
Stanko
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 17, 2010, 09:20:19 AM
I'm busy with real work. Sorry developing is slow. :(
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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rjel on November 17, 2010, 10:49:28 AM
You've captured the shape of the F8F beautifully.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Jonzynator on November 17, 2010, 11:00:05 AM
UMMM WOW!!!! that looks Great
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: nick10 on November 17, 2010, 02:27:31 PM
awesome
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on November 17, 2010, 02:59:16 PM
I asume is the F8F-2 version with 4 20mm cannons?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: nick10 on November 17, 2010, 04:54:44 PM
this bit of old footage of bearcats landing on a carrier might inspire you.

i guess u need a perfect 3 point landing so as not to clip the prop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7s8wMNyoz0
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Metatron on November 17, 2010, 05:45:47 PM
A very beautiful aircraft!  A noble cause!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Bombnick on November 18, 2010, 04:41:55 AM
I'm busy with real work. Sorry developing is slow. :(

You can't rush art, anyway. :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 18, 2010, 06:56:44 AM
I asume is the F8F-2 version with 4 20mm cannons?

This bird is F8F-1B.
I want to be able to change F8F-1B and F8F-1 by the arms selection.

And,Next new slot is F8F-2.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 18, 2010, 06:57:55 AM
this bit of old footage of bearcats landing on a carrier might inspire you.

i guess u need a perfect 3 point landing so as not to clip the prop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7s8wMNyoz0

This is an interesting video.  :D
Thanks!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on November 18, 2010, 07:35:05 AM
Thanks for the info Gerd!
Having the three versions will be amazing
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rudi_Jaeger on November 18, 2010, 08:43:23 AM
Gerd, it's great to see the work you're doing on the Bearcat. She looks fantastic; Thanks for your efforts!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Lanius on November 18, 2010, 08:46:29 AM
Good luck with this fantastic aircraft.... Looking mighty fine  :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 18, 2010, 11:08:46 AM
F8F-2 Version :)
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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Stanko-01 on November 18, 2010, 11:59:52 AM
Impressive Gerd!!!
Cant wait for it...

Regards,
Stanko
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on November 18, 2010, 12:53:49 PM
Lovely!! Can't wait
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: congo on November 18, 2010, 01:41:34 PM
this bit of old footage of bearcats landing on a carrier might inspire you.

i guess u need a perfect 3 point landing so as not to clip the prop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7s8wMNyoz0

Nice shots of the Skyraiders also!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Docholiday on November 18, 2010, 02:27:02 PM
Really awfull pictures !

I am looking forward to Your bird !

Thx

Doc
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: BravoFxTrt on November 18, 2010, 02:31:02 PM
She is going to be a very welcome addition to IL-2, thank you Gerd.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 19, 2010, 11:52:41 PM
I think that I will make the development of F8F-2 give priority until first beta release.

I think that everyone want get flyable version as soon as possible .
What do you think it?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on November 20, 2010, 12:49:30 AM
oh yes, indeed...sounds like a good plan!
possibly a nice christmas present on the cards for us?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on November 20, 2010, 03:47:20 AM
I really like the idea too!! Can't wait to fight against J7W and Ki-98 over Japan!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: BravoFxTrt on November 20, 2010, 04:16:45 AM
Hear hear! You go Man.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 20, 2010, 07:30:48 AM
F8F-1B
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

F8F-1N
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

F8F-2
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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Stanko-01 on November 20, 2010, 07:32:09 AM
Such a beautiful plane
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on November 20, 2010, 10:36:48 AM
Yes and a masterpiece of work he's doing. My congrats!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on November 20, 2010, 12:13:04 PM
I am truly GOBSMAKED !!  :P
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: nick10 on November 20, 2010, 06:04:56 PM
looks great. keep the updates flowing!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on November 20, 2010, 08:03:22 PM
Great looking, look much forward to it. This fighter together with the P-51D is my favourite prop-driven aircraft. :) Hope I'll be able to land it.. ;) Keep up the good work!

Tom
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 21, 2010, 09:33:40 AM
I am UV mapping now.
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img254/9885/nowuvmapping.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on November 21, 2010, 12:28:22 PM
You're working really fast!! Can't wait to fly it!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: congo on November 21, 2010, 12:39:12 PM
Your work is exquisite, glad to see you modelled the gear correctly this probably was an unusual arrangement for the time with the upper folding out while the lower folds in. Anyway beautiful model and outstanding work. You have really captured the essence of the Bearcat. I have been a fan of Grumman Cats for 60 years.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: zack on November 21, 2010, 02:07:50 PM
Any shots of cockpit?
Awesome work!
Thank You.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on November 21, 2010, 03:43:08 PM
Oh Boy Beautiful Work Gerd Well Done
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Balker on November 21, 2010, 07:47:25 PM
Thank you for your work!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 22, 2010, 07:37:01 PM
Sorry.
This is joke :)

I was so tired,I want to joke...
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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on November 23, 2010, 12:28:14 AM
That's no joke Gerd, that looks like a plane in VF-52 colors. My Dad flew F9F Panthers in VF-52 in Korea. Please continue with that scheme! She is beautiful!! :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: nick10 on November 23, 2010, 01:03:54 AM
what's the joke. looks awesome.

keep it coming.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 23, 2010, 01:18:17 AM
That's no joke Gerd, that looks like a plane in VF-52 colors. My Dad flew F9F Panthers in VF-52 in Korea. Please continue with that scheme! She is beautiful!! :)

She is too real!!!
Sorry :)
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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Dark Apostle on November 23, 2010, 01:19:58 AM
Yeah.....wow!

Nice work man, very nice.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: DarkBlueBoy on November 23, 2010, 01:28:44 AM
Awesome work Gerd.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 23, 2010, 02:31:03 AM
Nice CAF!
here's some sounds:
http://www.filefront.com/17548114/F8F.rar (http://www.filefront.com/17548114/F8F.rar)

Thx!

I will use it.
And,Your team Added to credit.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on November 23, 2010, 07:14:40 AM
I'm planning to use the plane for a good number of what if missions against the USSR ober Hokkaido!
Title: Correction
Post by: Fly! on November 23, 2010, 07:49:55 AM
No team really.  sounds are by Mike Hambly contained w/in FSX - FSX Warbirds
FSX Grumman F-8 Bearcat at Flightsim.com, which is Mark "Fire Ball" Rooks conversion of Michel Migaud's F8F2 for FSX
I just converted them 4 IL-2 & remixed a few.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: [URU]Mustang on November 23, 2010, 08:35:30 AM
Great work dude!
Keep it up!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Docholiday on November 23, 2010, 08:42:59 AM
Awfull !

Thx for doing this work

Doc

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on November 23, 2010, 09:16:19 AM
Simply stunning! This bird looks so beautiful! Great job, keep it up, Gerd!  :)

 
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: [URU]Mustang on November 23, 2010, 09:20:58 AM
Will this beauty have it's own cockpit?
Cheers




[URU]Mustang
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: nick10 on November 24, 2010, 02:06:10 AM
you could use the P-47d cockpit as a stand in. just a thought.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: torgear1 on November 24, 2010, 05:33:43 PM
JIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIZZZZZZ.....  aaaaahhhh, in my pants.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 25, 2010, 09:56:40 AM
Will this beauty have it's own cockpit?
Cheers




[URU]Mustang

I  want to create F8F's special cockpit.
But, It was not yet started.
F8F's special cockpit will be embarked on after the beta release.
Until then, P51 + F6F I plan to substitute the cockpit. :)
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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Batbomb on November 25, 2010, 10:00:58 AM
Looking great mate. Awesome textures...
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on November 25, 2010, 11:04:11 AM
Wow! :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Filippo1995 on November 25, 2010, 12:27:00 PM
Fantastic plane Gerd!
I don't see the time for try it!
But why ther's a jap pilot in the cockpit?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Boelcke on November 25, 2010, 12:36:57 PM
great work again Gerd, looking forward to it :)

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: [URU]Mustang on November 25, 2010, 12:45:21 PM
Flying this bird well be great!
I can imagine this beauty fighting KI-98 and JW7's over Japan :D
Cheers




[URU]Mustang
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 25, 2010, 02:31:19 PM
Fantastic plane Gerd!
I don't see the time for try it!
But why ther's a jap pilot in the cockpit?

This pilot is me ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on November 25, 2010, 02:34:17 PM
Filippo1995, Gerd is Japanese. :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Triad773 on November 25, 2010, 06:59:51 PM
This looks great so far!

Can't wait to try it when ever it it good for release :)

Thanks for the preview

Triad
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: DONAGHY on November 27, 2010, 02:43:55 PM
Thats one mean looking plane great work  got some cool skins awaiting  thank you so much
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on November 27, 2010, 06:01:40 PM
Just AWESOME work Gerd! Thank you so much for making this model!  :P
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 27, 2010, 09:45:30 PM
I'm draw panel line now.
Because the skin is troubled with the photo seen the other side.  :D
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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 28, 2010, 12:35:30 AM
I corrected width of caul flap mistake today.
Therefore, the template is still not complete.
I will release template of F8F in beta release .

Have fun! :D









NO! NO!

Dont't Look Other Side!!! :P


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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: nick10 on November 28, 2010, 04:48:50 AM
awesome
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on November 28, 2010, 05:06:22 AM
awesome

yes, indeed!  ;D 8)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: [URU]Mustang on November 28, 2010, 11:48:23 AM
You are my hero :D
Cheers




[URU]Mustang
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Batbomb on November 28, 2010, 12:01:13 PM
Can't wait to meet her over Tokyo! :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: JG54Spookie on November 29, 2010, 12:40:01 AM
Too cool 8)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on November 29, 2010, 02:14:42 AM
Very Very Nice Mate Well Bloody Done look forward to its release
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Jafa on November 29, 2010, 03:42:57 AM
Wow , chuffin great  ;D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 30, 2010, 09:13:55 AM
I was  inspired by  kodama's J7W1 Propeller. :)
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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: [URU]Mustang on November 30, 2010, 09:44:59 AM
WOOOOW!
This is dam hot! Keep it up :D
Cheers




[URU]Mustang
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on November 30, 2010, 10:50:06 AM
You're making a dream come true..Cheers! :) :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on November 30, 2010, 01:46:42 PM
Amazing!! Imagine using Tiny Tims from this little plane!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: nick10 on December 03, 2010, 05:45:19 AM
more updates please, this is fantastic
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 03, 2010, 06:02:45 AM
err....the last update was only 3 days ago, so let's hold back on update requests, shall we?  :o
Gerd is doing a great job of keeping us updated without any prodding from the members, as it is...so a little patience at this point, will be well rewarded, i'm sure... ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on December 03, 2010, 07:57:39 AM
Gerd, wondering If you know how to add planes into the game or If you will need help for it.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: OberstDanjeje on December 03, 2010, 09:28:48 AM
He already did a wonderful job with the DB603 Dora
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: psychobobicus on December 03, 2010, 11:40:38 AM
AWESOME!!! Nice work!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 03, 2010, 10:33:49 PM
Please wait everyone!
Anyone can't  feel interesting that very little changed 3d model's screen shot.(add antena etc..).
And, I don't up load screen shot until big progress. :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: mishapilot on December 04, 2010, 12:00:53 AM
EXCELLENT!!!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 04, 2010, 12:26:34 PM
I am testing that 3D model install to IL2.
Release is likely still take time. :'(
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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on December 04, 2010, 12:34:46 PM
Gerd will you send the template to a skinner? Roonco can be an amazinf option.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Docholiday on December 04, 2010, 03:01:40 PM
WOW that looks good !

can`t wait   ;D

Doc
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: nick10 on December 04, 2010, 05:37:19 PM
well done
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 05, 2010, 02:30:19 AM
This is Hellbeacat :D
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Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on December 05, 2010, 02:43:40 AM
Looks pretty cool. Is that a captured plane? It hav ea japanese pilot :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on December 05, 2010, 04:32:28 AM
Gerd, That looks amazing! Really can't wait to fly that thing :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 05, 2010, 07:57:37 AM
Movie up! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX2EPnsy0-c

However, F8F occurs more than one machine appear to flicker.
F8F size may have a skin problem. :(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: BP_dFrog on December 05, 2010, 08:29:11 AM
What version is it exactly ? It looks like F8F-2 to me, right ?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 05, 2010, 08:36:39 AM
This movie of F8F is F8F-2.
F8F-2's develop project priority is highest. :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rjel on December 05, 2010, 08:40:28 AM
Stunning work.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on December 05, 2010, 08:55:00 AM
Looking much forward to it, Gerd! :P
 :)

Cheers!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Killer Ghost on December 05, 2010, 08:59:24 AM
this is fantastic, good work.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Silverback on December 05, 2010, 09:00:04 AM
That's pure coolness Gerd. I can't wait to fly it and against it. I wonder how it will stack up against the KI-84. (Just a thought)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 05, 2010, 03:41:01 PM
Oooh That Vid just gave me a hard On looking good Mate
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 12, 2010, 07:49:38 AM
re uploaded :-[
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B817MauxkQ4
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Fly! on December 12, 2010, 08:07:28 AM
Pretty!
That cat's on steroids!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Csocso on December 12, 2010, 08:11:13 AM
Looks great... :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Triad773 on December 12, 2010, 11:53:40 AM
Wow that was really nice :)

Thank you!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: [URU]Mustang on December 12, 2010, 12:10:48 PM
Wooow! Thanks a lot for the update.
A date for the release?
Cheers
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Stanko-01 on December 12, 2010, 12:16:39 PM
Thanks ,it's amazing  :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 12, 2010, 03:29:55 PM
Very Nice Gerd, any Chance you can show a landing and gear deployment ?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 12, 2010, 03:42:14 PM
Very Nice Gerd, any Chance you can show a landing and gear deployment ?

I will develop F8F's landing gear in this week.
I'm thinking no ploblem of gear developing. :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 12, 2010, 11:38:12 PM
I Say Good Show Iam looking forward to it Old Boy
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on December 13, 2010, 06:18:52 AM
Amazing work Gerd!! I am really looking forward to flying this model Thank you very much. :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: pilotsden on December 13, 2010, 02:58:28 PM
do you import aircraft into il-2...or does someone else do it for you?
looks more than decent..will be a great addition...

PD
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: [URU]Mustang on December 16, 2010, 06:43:14 PM
News?
Cheers
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 16, 2010, 11:05:25 PM
enough with the release date and news questions, please guys.
Gerd has already stated that he will update when he can, and please take into consideration that for many people this time of year will be spent with family commitments.
so, please take all this into consideration before repeatedly asking the same questions over and over.
thanks .
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 17, 2010, 03:04:14 PM
I tried Landing TEST!! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnQOIER6A4M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKSKp83pb2U
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 17, 2010, 03:06:57 PM
Well Done Mate Looks Bloody Great
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Stanko-01 on December 17, 2010, 03:08:47 PM
WOW Looks awesome  ;)

Thx for update  :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Triad773 on December 17, 2010, 03:38:08 PM
Supremo!

Nice landing too :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: [URU]Mustang on December 17, 2010, 03:54:30 PM
Stunning :D
Cheers
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Batbomb on December 17, 2010, 04:00:14 PM
cool wingfold animation
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: CWMV on December 17, 2010, 04:10:00 PM
Nice landing! I bet shes a hot little ship, whats the landing speed?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 17, 2010, 06:12:13 PM
This F8F's FMD is F6F.
And,Landing speed is same as F6F.
F8F-2 special FMD is developed by other member:D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on December 17, 2010, 06:35:39 PM
 :P  Words fail me!! I am well and truly dumbstruck!!  Thank you for the update Gerd.  :)  You have made my holidays!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Jafa on December 18, 2010, 02:32:37 AM
Mmmmm , I can understand why pebs keep askin for a release date looks bloody fantastic  ;D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Batbomb on December 18, 2010, 05:42:23 AM
I think the release date is secondary, as it is simply a wonderful Aircraft, that deserves to be implemented in our great Simulator. The F8F is also interesting, as it offers two theaters. Hikoki46' and Korean War!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 18, 2010, 09:08:04 PM
TAXING TEST :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqjkFr1hpo8
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rjel on December 18, 2010, 09:22:09 PM
TAXING TEST :D

At least you're a good modder. ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: frogman2 on December 18, 2010, 10:50:28 PM
*Crew chief* hes going to kill himself doing th--- and he just did...
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 18, 2010, 11:19:13 PM
LOL All that Power
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 20, 2010, 10:55:16 AM
I think that I can release F8F Xmas playable alpha version MOD.
What do you want this MOD? :-\

But,This mod is constructing now damage model,FMD,and so on.
In other words, less polished.(=alpha version)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Silverback on December 20, 2010, 11:08:22 AM
Hell yes
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Batbomb on December 20, 2010, 11:10:37 AM
Yeah! This would be awesome...
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duffys tavern on December 20, 2010, 12:35:50 PM
Love to see it.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on December 20, 2010, 12:40:12 PM
Release it when you're ready to Gerd. Don't let the growing pool of drool influence you one tiny bit!!  ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on December 20, 2010, 12:41:51 PM
Gerd, I think it would be fantastic to release an alpha version for us to play with. She looks amazing
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on December 20, 2010, 01:51:03 PM
Also would (almost) die to have it. I'm at home for Christmas..argh ;)..but release it when you feel you're good and ready.:)

Tom
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on December 20, 2010, 02:19:25 PM
Yes please. I would love to fly this one. :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Bombnick on December 20, 2010, 02:44:07 PM
I'll wait for the polished version, whenever it comes. It's worth the wait. Thank you for all the effort.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 20, 2010, 05:24:28 PM
Gerd you release it when you think its ready and feel comfortable with it
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Triad773 on December 20, 2010, 05:33:15 PM
Gerd you release it when you think its ready and feel comfortable with it

I second that. Do it when you are happy with your work. And thank you- it looks very powerful and impressive.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: pilotsden on December 20, 2010, 10:16:19 PM
alpha is fine by me....much appreciated...
we have had many an aircraft that gets upgraded now and then...

pd
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 21, 2010, 04:10:06 PM
Wow Mate Coming along nicely Keep Up the Good Work
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Dinosbacsi on December 21, 2010, 04:13:47 PM
This plane is so beauty T^T
Awesome work ;D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Docholiday on December 22, 2010, 07:10:40 AM
Do not tease use too much   ;)

I already can`t wait for it  ! ;D

thx

Doc
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: OberstDanjeje on December 22, 2010, 07:25:42 AM
Great job, you are very fast, keep working ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Csocso on December 22, 2010, 07:27:09 AM
Looking great, I'm amazed by the speed of your progress, it's simply unbeliveable. ;D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: razor1uk on December 22, 2010, 08:20:33 AM
WOW!! Jaw droppingly good, waitng with baited breath, drooling longing for future info & release of anticipation.

...Me, on drugs, nah, just really awaiting this plane. Keep up the good work and MErry Xmas & New Year etc, to all.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Batbomb on December 22, 2010, 08:38:59 AM
How fast you've stomped this beauty out of the earth! Its wonderful... looks like a nice attacker!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: [URU]Mustang on December 22, 2010, 09:03:43 AM
Hey dude, you are damn fast :D
Well, xmas is coming, I think that Santa has a lot of presents for us this year :D
Cheers
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on December 22, 2010, 02:19:31 PM
for spring break...
if you are happy with it by then.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 23, 2010, 06:52:31 AM
This is Xmas alpha version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_egfuTyMf4o

Please wait ;D

I think that FMD developing is not complete until Xmas.(If MOD can't find F8F FMD that MOD use F6F FMD.) :'(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 23, 2010, 06:59:02 AM
awesome! i wait patiently.... :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Batbomb on December 23, 2010, 07:03:34 AM
Thanks! Superb.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: adampolska7 on December 23, 2010, 07:28:34 AM
Many good craftsmen on world are. But also true masters how:
Michael Angel,Vincent Willem Van Gogh,Niccolo Paganini ,Akira Kurosawa and
obviously Gerd!!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on December 23, 2010, 07:40:30 AM
This is Xmas alpha version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_egfuTyMf4o

Please wait ;D

I think that FMD developing is not complete until Xmas.(If MOD can't find F8F FMD that MOD use F6F FMD.) :'(

Gerd, Might I suggest using the F4U Corsair FM instead of F6? Might maths performance a little better
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 23, 2010, 07:47:18 AM
RGR :D

This is Xmas alpha version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_egfuTyMf4o

Please wait ;D

I think that FMD developing is not complete until Xmas.(If MOD can't find F8F FMD that MOD use F6F FMD.) :'(

Gerd, Might I suggest using the F4U Corsair FM instead of F6? Might maths performance a little better
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: stansdds on December 23, 2010, 12:06:38 PM
Yes, the flight model for the F4U would be far better than that of the F6F, but I hope the F8F gets its own flight model as it was a real fast climber.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: DD_BadAim on December 23, 2010, 12:40:59 PM
I've just found this thread today, and I must say I'm glad I did. She's a real beauty, and I can't wait to fly her!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: EoW_Drew on December 23, 2010, 01:35:32 PM
Your work is awe-inspiring, Gerd, thanks for making my day fantastic.
Gerd's F8F really deserves its own FM.... It held several climb rate records for a LONG time, want to say until the F-15/16 came out but I may be mistaken.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: EoW_Drew on December 23, 2010, 01:43:02 PM
I can try to find some written pilot experinces after flying restored Bearcats, maybe it'll help the FM'ers capture the feel and power of this amazing aircraft. (Consider these reports as EMPTY loadout performance since the FAA dislikes functioning 20mm's on civillian aircraft)

http://www.airbum.com/pireps/PirepBearcat.html
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: EoW_Drew on December 23, 2010, 01:50:41 PM
 Quote from article above..

"From takeoff to the time I started thinking about turning out, not more than a minute and a half had passed. As I started the turn, I glanced at the altimeter and it showed an amazing 6,000 feet and building rapidly! No wonder the airplane held the takeoff-to-10,000-feet record for years. Supposedly, with a honcho on board instead of a pasture pilot, the Bearcat will reach 10,000 feet in 91 seconds from brake release. We were well up into the century series fighters before a jet finally beat it."

So yah crazyflak the 60's jets probly beat the hell outta of the bearcat from 0-30,000ft.... But it still owned the jets from 0-10,000ft not bad for some late war 1944-45 design.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 23, 2010, 03:59:38 PM
Gerd Amazing work Keep it coming
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 23, 2010, 04:14:10 PM
Do you want this credit?

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,10588.msg113624.html#msg113624
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on December 23, 2010, 04:17:38 PM
Yes. :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 101tfs on December 23, 2010, 06:52:08 PM
Seafury's FM maybe better?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 23, 2010, 07:37:43 PM
Seafury's FM maybe better?

Yes i would say that it would be more suited until it gets its own FM
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: TomNW on December 23, 2010, 08:08:58 PM
right, so the dl link is currently a youtube video. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on December 24, 2010, 06:44:02 AM
Link is up. Thank you Gerd! :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 24, 2010, 06:45:39 AM
Enjoy this MOD!! :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Stanko-01 on December 24, 2010, 07:02:49 AM
Thanks Gerd,awesome mod ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 24, 2010, 07:54:16 AM
Thanks Gerd will Have some fun with this
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 24, 2010, 07:57:40 AM
many thanks, and a merry christmas, Gerd!  8)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on December 24, 2010, 08:04:16 AM
This is Awesome! Thanks Gerd! :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on December 24, 2010, 10:00:47 AM
Gerd, Do you have a copy of the UVW mapping layer so I can see how the aircraft is mapped?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duffys tavern on December 24, 2010, 10:36:03 AM
Don't know which FM you are using but this little girl is a real sweetheart. What a swell job! Thank you very much!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Docholiday on December 24, 2010, 11:20:15 AM
Do You have to use AAA or HSFX to fly Your beauty ?!

In my UP 2.01 I only have a 70% CTD .

Who knows this


Thank You Gerd

Doc
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Stanko-01 on December 24, 2010, 11:34:25 AM
Do You have to use AAA or HSFX to fly Your beauty ?!

In my UP 2.01 I only have a 70% CTD .

Who knows this


Thank You Gerd

Doc

I don't have problems,and i use UP2.01.....Maybe there's some kind of class conflict,or maybe you just don't have diffFM enabled???
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 24, 2010, 01:15:09 PM
And...
If happend CDT then you must check write miss of air.ini.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Docholiday on December 24, 2010, 01:36:04 PM
And...
If happend CDT then you must check write miss of air.ini.

I copy/paste the air.ini entries of Your readme

Doc
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Birdman on December 24, 2010, 01:46:26 PM
Doc, if you have around 750 planes installed then try to disable some plane mod folders together with theis air.ini entries.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: [URU]Mustang on December 24, 2010, 02:09:39 PM
Thanks a lot *-*
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Docholiday on December 24, 2010, 02:16:40 PM
Doc, if you have around 750 planes installed then try to disable some plane mod folders together with theis air.ini entries.

Thx Birdman

that was the problem ! Now it works


Doc
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 24, 2010, 02:22:59 PM
Doc, if you have around 750 planes installed then try to disable some plane mod folders together with theis air.ini entries.

Thx Birdman

that was the problem ! Now it works


Doc

Congratulation!! :D
Thx Birdman!!  ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 24, 2010, 02:26:37 PM
I uploaded skin alpha template :D

https://www.mediafire.com/?qqdh6krjwou4bi6
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on December 24, 2010, 02:27:38 PM
Excellent, Thanks Gerd :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 24, 2010, 07:45:19 PM
Gerd Old Chap what a little Brute handles like a dream...what FM did you end up using?  ;D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 24, 2010, 09:20:26 PM
Gerd Old Chap what a little Brute handles like a dream...what FM did you end up using?  ;D

This MOD uses FM by the following priority levels.  :D

1)F8F-2
2)SeaFuryMkI
3)F4U-C
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 24, 2010, 10:13:21 PM
Ahhh Beautiful Have a Merry Christmas mate and a happy New Year

Studs
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: DONAGHY on December 25, 2010, 03:43:05 AM
just wow
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on December 25, 2010, 04:43:40 AM
Gerd, I've been having great fun working on some skins for this :)

Template is no where near complete but i just had to go fly :D

(http://www.virtual-horsemen.com/images/Bcat2.png)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 25, 2010, 05:00:34 AM
Amazing work! Skin was already made depicting Riped ! !
I look forward to completion. :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 25, 2010, 05:26:21 AM
Nice One Rock looking forward to some new clothes for her....maybe French Air Force Indo China ?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on December 25, 2010, 09:50:14 AM
Very nice Fly. :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on December 25, 2010, 11:11:38 AM
I'm definitely going to a LOT of skins for this aircraft :) Any references you guys can provide would be welcomed to help me get the template correct :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on December 25, 2010, 11:14:33 AM
I hope to also see, down the line of course, is the Navy's Blue Angles that really did fly the F8F :)

(http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu48/Bombsaway_67/F8F-220Bearcat20Good20as20New.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on December 25, 2010, 11:16:26 AM
haha, Ofcourse ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Jonzynator on December 25, 2010, 11:35:30 AM
I hope to also see, down the line of course, is the Navy's Blue Angles that really did fly the F8F :)

Yea the Bearcat was the first plane used by the Blue angles
(http://www.highgallery.com/Navy-Blue-Angels/blue-angels-past/blueangels-bearcat/blueangels-bearcat-002.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on December 25, 2010, 11:37:36 AM
Nope, They used Hellcats for a few months first ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Jonzynator on December 25, 2010, 11:51:09 AM
Nope, They used Hellcats for a few months first ;)
Forgot to say One of the first... :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on December 25, 2010, 12:12:53 PM
Yep :)
F6F Hellcat
F8F Bearcat
F9F Panther
A4 Skyhawk
F4 Phantom
F-18 Hornet
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: F22-Raptor-2006 on December 25, 2010, 12:21:26 PM
There's something special about this aircraft list too.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: [URU]Mustang on December 25, 2010, 12:26:01 PM
We have half of the planes that flew for the Blue Angels, and I heard somthing about someone workin on a F-4 Phantom
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Jonzynator on December 25, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
There's something special about this aircraft list too.
yea most of them in il2 ;)

F6F Hellcat - in
F8F Bearcat - WIP
F9F Panther - in
A4 Skyhawk - Wish
F4 Phantom - wish
F-18 Hornet
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 25, 2010, 12:54:10 PM
did a few quick 'n nasty skins for this beast, as well.... ;)

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/f8f2.jpg)

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/f8f1.jpg)

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/f8f3.jpg)

looking forward to seeing loads of great skins for this plane.... ;D 8)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duffys tavern on December 25, 2010, 12:55:30 PM
Will these skins be available to all?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 25, 2010, 12:57:49 PM
depends...have you all been good lads thru the year?   :D ;D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on December 25, 2010, 12:59:38 PM
No, I havent but I still would like them. :)
Please. :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duffys tavern on December 25, 2010, 01:01:23 PM
Malone, they look swell and really make this bird come alive. Wonderful!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: F22-Raptor-2006 on December 25, 2010, 01:01:49 PM
There's something special about this aircraft list too.
yea most of them in il2 ;)

F6F Hellcat - in
F8F Bearcat - WIP
F9F Panther - in
A4 Skyhawk - Wish
F4 Phantom - wish
F-18 Hornet

well maybe for you, not for me lol
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 25, 2010, 01:07:00 PM
i still have to tidy them up a bit because of the cheap 'n nasty cut 'n paste job i did with them, but i'll release my skins soon.....just a 4-pack to tide you over until the experts start getting the good stuff out....probably monday... ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Checkyersix on December 25, 2010, 01:25:05 PM
Didn't even know this was out. Cheers m8 ;D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on December 25, 2010, 03:06:33 PM
Wondering If someone can create a late WW2 skin for it, just like late Hellcats. The Bearcat missed the war by weeks IIRC.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 25, 2010, 03:52:13 PM
did a few quick 'n nasty skins for this beast, as well.... ;)

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/f8f2.jpg)

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/f8f1.jpg)

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/f8f3.jpg)

looking forward to seeing loads of great skins for this plane.... ;D 8)

This F8F is a 3D model made of me? ???
F8F This place is incredibly realistic! :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 25, 2010, 05:34:04 PM
No, I havent but I still would like them. :)
Please. :)
LOL @ Bombsaway....Me Too
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 25, 2010, 05:54:21 PM
I forgot update cowl flap UV information layer in texture template. :'(
Please update UV information layer.
(Other layer is no problem. ;))

Updated template.
https://www.mediafire.com/?nnrz7ez1riq024b (https://www.mediafire.com/?nnrz7ez1riq024b)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 25, 2010, 06:07:15 PM
Thanks Gerd
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: rustydawg on December 25, 2010, 08:30:26 PM
Gerd, first thank you for this Bearcat.
As for the skin template: I noticed these templates are 4096x4096. The skins in IL-2 folders are 1024x1024. Are these templates for skinning or something else? Also there is no black background to seperate the wings from the tail...etc.

Except for the skin confusion, I am having a blast flying it. :D

Keep up the great work. ;)
Best regards,

rustydawg



Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 25, 2010, 08:40:30 PM
This template need zooming 25%(reduce). :D

Quote
Also there is no black background to seperate the wings from the tail...etc.
Sorry. I am not understood  this comment. :-\
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: rustydawg on December 25, 2010, 09:12:02 PM
Look at the skin file of a F6F-5 Hellcat (solid blue version) for example. It has a black background to separate the tail section and other parts. Maybe the skinner did that himself. I notice the white voids have everything the same color, just the panel lines show up, of course the panel lines help to line things up.

I suppose the skin file you posted is just the quick one for the Alpha version. What do I do with the cowl flap update?

Do I need a 3dMax or Gmax to put this in the template?

Best regards,

rustydawg

I forgot update cowl flap UV information layer in texture template. :'(
Please update UV information layer.
(Other layer is no problem. ;))

Updated template.
https://www.mediafire.com/?nnrz7ez1riq024b (https://www.mediafire.com/?nnrz7ez1riq024b)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)


Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rjel on December 25, 2010, 09:17:56 PM
Yep :)
F6F Hellcat
F8F Bearcat
F9F Panther
A4 Skyhawk
F4 Phantom
F-18 Hornet

You missed a couple in your list.
F9F Couger
F11 Tiger
Chance Vought F7U Cutlass ... that must been a bitch to fly in demonstration considering it was supposed to have been so under powered.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 25, 2010, 10:13:58 PM
Look at the skin file of a F6F-5 Hellcat (solid blue version) for example. It has a black background to separate the tail section and other parts. Maybe the skinner did that himself. I notice the white voids have everything the same color, just the panel lines show up, of course the panel lines help to line things up.

I suppose the skin file you posted is just the quick one for the Alpha version. What do I do with the cowl flap update?

Do I need a 3dMax or Gmax to put this in the template?

I do not want to expose 3D model. ;)
Perhaps, You beyond the desired information in the following information would be obtained. :D

https://www.mediafire.com/?1o9ywgfmw1hwn78 (https://www.mediafire.com/?1o9ywgfmw1hwn78)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: rustydawg on December 26, 2010, 01:01:31 AM
Thanks Gerd, that is exactly what I was looking for.

Best reagrds,

rustydawg
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gumpy on December 26, 2010, 02:35:43 PM
Thanks for the plane Gerd.I have a question, is there a way a guy can deactivate the rolling prop and revert back to using the regular prop mod textures?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 26, 2010, 04:13:34 PM
yes, i've been having difficulty trying to get a different prop to show up for this, as well - there's something a little 'off' about the spinning prop of this version.... :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gumpy on December 26, 2010, 07:37:58 PM
I hope Gerd doesn't mind but this is my attempt at a little better Roll prop effect.Place in MODS folder/Gerd's_F8F-2_Xmas_Alpha folder/3do folder/plane folder/TEXTURES folder you can let it overwrite if you wish or backup the orginal if you don't like mine.Once again (BIG THANKS) to Gerd for the great plane.      (http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/Bingo1957/sey6.jpg)       http://www.filefront.com/17707067/New roll prop for Gerds F8F2.zip     Update!   link for a cleaner version     http://www.filefront.com/17711024/Cleaner version of roll prop.zip
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 26, 2010, 10:27:18 PM
i'll try that, thanks Gumpy.  ;)
also, here's a 4-pack set of skins for now, as promised: https://storebror.it.cx/sas/archive/sas2/Malone/F8F2_Skins.rar
 8)
(https://storebror.it.cx/sas/archive/sas2/Malone/PICS/AC_Stuff/bearcats.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: CWMV on December 26, 2010, 11:22:39 PM
This thing looks like an Americanized/navalized 190. I'm going to have to take her for a spin.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: LV 426 on December 27, 2010, 01:18:56 AM
Oh yes! When i'm looking to this bird, i think about indochine map's... :-* another f...k plane in the great il2 muséum.
Thanks Gerd, sweet work.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 27, 2010, 03:36:29 AM
Thanks Malone they look Most Excellent
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on December 27, 2010, 04:38:23 AM
Gerd, just a few things about the skin/mapping - it'd be nice to be able to get an internals layer, for the cockpit area, which is currently basically just white, as well as the little exhausts on either side of the fuselage, and the inside of the gear undercarriage....
also, she seems to have a tendency to blow up instantly when hit - is there still some work to be done with the damage model?
i understand it's still WIP, so i guess you'll be adressing this at some point - just thought i'd point it out in case you missed it.  ;)
loving this plane, mate....i've had a couple of pretty awesome missions with her... 8)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Mission_bug on December 27, 2010, 04:53:03 AM
Gorgeous aircraft Gerd, thank you very much.  Thanks also to Gumpy for the prop effect.

WIP, F8F-1B No 95105, G.C. 2/21 Auvergne, Tan Son Nhut 1954.

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm42/Mission_bug/F8FIndochina.jpg)

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm42/Mission_bug/F8FIndochina2.jpg)


Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: F22-Raptor-2006 on December 27, 2010, 05:07:30 AM
Yep :)
F6F Hellcat
F8F Bearcat
F9F Panther
A4 Skyhawk
F4 Phantom
F-18 Hornet

You missed a couple in your list.
F9F Couger
F11 Tiger
Chance Vought F7U Cutlass ... that must been a bitch to fly in demonstration considering it was supposed to have been so under powered.

The Vought F7U Cutlass was only flown several times, for solo only.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: si1va on December 27, 2010, 05:32:47 AM
Beautiful aircraft, many many thanks to Gerd and everyone else involved in this project. :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 27, 2010, 09:10:56 AM
I hope Gerd doesn't mind but this is my attempt at a little better Roll prop effect.Place in MODS folder/Gerd's_F8F-2_Xmas_Alpha folder/3do folder/plane folder/TEXTURES folder you can let it overwrite if you wish or backup the orginal if you don't like mine.Once again (BIG THANKS) to Gerd for the great plane.      (http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/Bingo1957/sey6.jpg)       http://www.filefront.com/17707067/New roll prop for Gerds F8F2.zip

Very cool Roll Prop Texture!!
I want to use this  to stanard Texture  :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 27, 2010, 10:04:46 AM
Next version :P
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Dinosbacsi on December 27, 2010, 11:02:14 AM
Airbrakes, cool! =D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gumpy on December 27, 2010, 05:03:26 PM
(Update) Link for a cleaner version of roll prop now in my first post.     (http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/Bingo1957/grab0001.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 27, 2010, 09:46:31 PM
WOW Gerd Shes looking Hot
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 28, 2010, 02:54:52 AM
(Update) Link for a cleaner version of roll prop now in my first post.     

This skin looks is Good!
I want this:D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on December 28, 2010, 03:34:18 AM
Thanks mate!

I'll keep both: the new for high fly where the pitch is high and the cleaner for low flight where the pitch is less!!

cheers

walter
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 28, 2010, 03:23:37 PM
This is F8F-2  FM test movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKdaxi_yMM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKdaxi_yMM)

This fighter G-LOC is very ease ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Triad773 on December 28, 2010, 03:59:35 PM
Nice, Gerd!

Thank you :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 101tfs on December 28, 2010, 10:56:18 PM
Hi,Gerd!
 hope you can add decals like this on it (http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv349/101tfs/w.jpg)
And I did gear skin (http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv349/101tfs/21.jpg) Do you mind if I upload it? :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 29, 2010, 01:29:46 AM
Hi,Gerd!
 hope you can add decals like this on it (http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv349/101tfs/w.jpg)
And I did gear skin (http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv349/101tfs/21.jpg) Do you mind if I upload it? :)

Thank you for creating a cool landing gear texture. :o

 However, this part of the UV mapping may change.
 Therefore, the gear template area and interior area was not included.

Gear and interior color should be selected because F8F have many colors of these.

And,

If you upload this texture then I will add it to selectable gear textures.
(Selecting with rename texture file.)

P.S.
F8F will eventually support the decal. ;)
But,It is alpha...
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 29, 2010, 04:14:23 AM
Please tell me recording conditions when F8F climb 10,000 ft in 91 seconds.
F8F-1 or F8F-2?
Full or Harf Fuel?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 29, 2010, 08:51:02 AM
Please tell me recording conditions when F8F climb 10,000 ft in 91 seconds.
F8F-1 or F8F-2?
Full or Harf Fuel?

I think that F8F is no ammunition and fuel reduced.
But,F8F is nomal the production  model of  F8F-1. :D

There was a Wiki-like following description.
Quote
An unmodified production F8F-1 set a 1946 time-to-climb record (after a run of 115 ft/35 m) of 10,000 ft (3,048 m) in 94 seconds (6,383 fpm). The Bearcat held this record for 10 years until it was broken by a modern jet fighter (which could still not match the Bearcat's short takeoff distance).
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Dinosbacsi on December 29, 2010, 08:54:16 AM
Gerd, you talking with yourself? o.O
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: tancw19 on December 29, 2010, 09:08:30 AM
Here is some date

(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z244/militia_fuchs/Untitled-1651.gif)

f8f-2's date is upper, and F4u-4's is below
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rudi_Jaeger on December 29, 2010, 02:32:31 PM
Regarding the climb record, I saved the following text while doing research on the skins for my old N1K-F8F hacks:

===============
"The original Bearcat climb record was established during “Operation Pogo Stick", which was conducted as a demonstration during the Cleveland Air Race, on November 22, 1946. An F8F-1 piloted by Commander Bill Leonard set a new time to climb record, from a dead stop to 10K feet in 97.8 seconds, including a 150 foot take off run. Unfortunately, he didn't get to keep the record very long. Leiutenant Commander Butch Davenport came along about 15 minutes later and set the next new record of 94 seconds, also in an F8F-1, with a 115 foot take off run. Leonard's take off was into an estimated 30 kt head wind, by the time Davenport took off the head wind was over 40 kts. These wind speeds helped to reduce the time on the ground. Both pilots were assigned to TACTEST at the time; Cdr Leonard was TACTEST projects officer. Lt Cdr Davenport was the F8F project officer. The F8F’s used were the standard Navy aircraft, armed, with ammunition. The planes were modified, however, to allow full emergency military power with the landing gear down, something you couldn’t do in a stock airplane due to safety locks.

The rapid climb to altitude was the F8F's bread and butter. The plane was to have been the solution to the kamikaze problem ... rapid climb capability, firepower, speed, with more better maneuverability than the F6F or F4U.

It's been said that Leonard and Davenport trashed the engines on their planes, but that is not correct. This was not a spur of the moment stunt; they actually practiced back at NAS Patuxent River with the same planes used in Cleveland, doing three or four practice runs each. After the demonstration they flew those same planes back to TACTEST."
===============

Seems to be plausible enough, although I'm not so sure anymore about how long it held the record. I've read that the F-16 was the first to best it, which seems incredible; but I've also read accounts claiming as early as the F-86, and also some of the 'century' fighters. Regardless, it's a record that certainly commands respect to this day.. even though it's not a fair comparison with 'props v jets', it's some cool trivia nonetheless.

btw; She's looking great Gerd. It's been fun to watch the evolution of this beauty. Thanks again for the work you're doing with her.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 29, 2010, 03:15:14 PM
Thanks tancw19.
This perfomance chart was given same one  by stansdds.
F8F of chart can't this record 10000ft/91sec. :'(

Thanks Rudi_Jaeger.
I am very interested in this information.
This F8F-1 is product model and normal armed & armament!! :P
But,I think F8F-1's fuel was reduced.

F8F-1's FM is very dificult. :(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Metatron on December 29, 2010, 03:57:06 PM
What an amazing climb rate.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Cranky.1 on December 29, 2010, 05:22:57 PM
Thanks Gerd very nice  :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on December 29, 2010, 07:59:11 PM
Thanks a lot Gerd, love it! :) ;D
Tom
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Triad773 on December 29, 2010, 08:28:56 PM
Just had a chance to give it a try-- it IS quite a performer!

I am enjoying this and thank you for releasing it :)

Cheers

Triad
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: tancw19 on December 30, 2010, 12:18:04 AM
Someone said it is 9215 pounds when F8F-1 made a climbing record(normal 9850 pounds), but I don't know which record it is.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: stansdds on December 30, 2010, 04:59:14 AM
I would expect the F8F's used to establish the climb record had only enough fuel for the mission, had no ammunition, had the gun ports and shell ejection chutes taped over, and probably had the guns removed.  All of this would have resulted in a lighter and faster climbing aircraft.  As for the F-16 being the first jet fighter to break that record... I'm not surprised.  Piston engined aircraft accelerate rapidly.  As soon as you open the throttle, the power is there.  With turboprop and jet engines, you have to wait for the engines to spool up.  Jets tend to take long takeoff runs and the take off run is part of the climb time, so a high powered piston engined prop aircraft with a good headwind will be off the ground sooner than a jet.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on December 30, 2010, 11:39:35 AM
No pun intended, but I think it's rather highly unlikely the F-16 was the first aircraft to break the F-8's record.
A very early F-15A would have eaten any F-8 climbing in any condition (after leaving the ground and speed let's say 220 knots upward ). Same with F-104 series and F-4s ..also any Mig-21 ;) (?).

From Wiki..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_F8F_Bearcat
"An unmodified production F8F-1 set a 1946 time-to-climb record (after a run of 115 ft/35 m) of 10,000 ft (3,048 m) in 94 seconds (6,383 fpm). The Bearcat held this record for 10 years until it was broken by a modern jet fighter (which could still not match the Bearcat's short takeoff distance)."

The F-4E's rate of climb would be around 7 times faster..e.g-albeit an F-8F1/2 may very well blow the Phantom away in the first 10 seconds... :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on December 30, 2010, 03:39:04 PM
The S-64F helicopter I fly for a living, beat an F-4 Phantom to 10,000 feet way back in the 70's. It did this as a CH-54B, but they are virtually the same machine.  ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on December 30, 2010, 06:02:02 PM
That Sir sounds amazing. I always knew transport heli pilots are hellmen. ;D

I suppose the real climb advantage for fighter jets comes into play at altitudes beyond 15.00 feet, but that's only a guess.

Cheers
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: stansdds on December 31, 2010, 09:31:26 AM
Please, keep in mind that the time-to-climb starts as soon as the aircraft begins moving.  The Bearcat needed a very short takeoff ground run before beginning the climb phase.  A helicopter needs no ground run.  Jet aircraft, other than VSTOL like the Harrier, need a significant ground run before they can begin to climb.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on December 31, 2010, 11:37:50 AM
There's no doubt in my military mind that Stansdds is exactly right about that!! At least as it applies to the helicopter part of it!  ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: si1va on January 02, 2011, 08:05:14 AM
I've written up the weapons.ini entries (cause I'm a neatness freak). I noticed some of the entries are showing the wrong loadouts in the setup screen.

The 150 gal. Droptank and 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets shows the 2x100lb bombs and the  2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR show the  2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR + Droptank loadout.

Keep up the good work Gerd, I'm loving the Bearcat. :)

Code: [Select]
#####################################################################
# F8F-2
#####################################################################
F8F-2.default                    Default
F8F-2.4xhvar2                    4x2.75" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.4xhvargp                   4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.4xhvarap                   4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x150dt                    150 gal. Droptank
F8F-2.1x150dt4xhvar2             150 gal. Droptank + 4x2.75" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x150dt4xhvargp            150 gal. Droptank + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x150dt4xhvarap            150 gal. Droptank + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x100                      2x100lb. Bombs
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvargp             2x100lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvargp1x150dt      2x100lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR + Droptank
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvarap             2x100lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvarap1x150dt      2x100lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR + Droptank
F8F-2.2x100_1x150dt              2x100lb. Bombs + 150 gal. Droptank
F8F-2.2x250                      2x250lb. Bombs
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvargp             2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvargp1x150dt      2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR + Droptank
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvarap             2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvarap1x150dt      2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR + Droptank
F8F-2.2x250_1x150dt              2x250lb. Bombs + 150 gal. Droptank
F8F-2.1x500                      500lb. Bomb
F8F-2.1x500_4xhvargp             500lb. Bomb + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x500_4xhvarap             500lb. Bomb + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x500                      2x500lb. Bombs
F8F-2.2x500_4xhvargp             2x500lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x500_4xhvarap             2x500lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x500_1x150dt              2x500lb. Bombs + 150 gal. Droptank
F8F-2.1x1000                     1000lb. Bomb
F8F-2.1x1000_4xhvargp            1000lb. Bomb + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x1000_4xhvarap            1000lb. Bomb + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.none                       Empty
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: PeanutJelly on January 02, 2011, 09:31:51 AM
Is this plane only for 4.09?

I hope not, because it's awesome.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on January 02, 2011, 10:30:17 AM
I have it flying in my 4.10.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on January 02, 2011, 11:14:16 AM
yep, it works fine in 4.10.
don't be scared to at least try it, guys, before asking if it'll work or not.... :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on January 04, 2011, 03:38:52 PM
I developed temporary F8F-2 MOD of Ver410. ;)

URL is follow.
https://www.mediafire.com/?1x5ve8ed483i12v
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Sani on January 04, 2011, 04:05:24 PM
No pun intended, but I think it's rather highly unlikely the F-16 was the first aircraft to break the F-8's record.
A very early F-15A would have eaten any F-8 climbing in any condition (after leaving the ground and speed let's say 220 knots upward ). Same with F-104 series and F-4s ..also any Mig-21 ;) (?).

Don't forget MiG25 ;)...0-30000m in 3min 10sec (modified)...stock one took just little over 4min for same altitude.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on January 04, 2011, 07:37:28 PM
How do you install it in 4.10 without a MODS folder??
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duffys tavern on January 04, 2011, 08:31:01 PM
Yep, she works great in 4.10. What a great little a/c.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on January 05, 2011, 05:57:00 AM
Thank you bug report :D
I will fixed bug at the next version.

I've written up the weapons.ini entries (cause I'm a neatness freak). I noticed some of the entries are showing the wrong loadouts in the setup screen.

The 150 gal. Droptank and 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets shows the 2x100lb bombs and the  2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR show the  2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR + Droptank loadout.

Keep up the good work Gerd, I'm loving the Bearcat. :)

Code: [Select]
#####################################################################
# F8F-2
#####################################################################
F8F-2.default                    Default
F8F-2.4xhvar2                    4x2.75" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.4xhvargp                   4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.4xhvarap                   4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x150dt                    150 gal. Droptank
F8F-2.1x150dt4xhvar2             150 gal. Droptank + 4x2.75" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x150dt4xhvargp            150 gal. Droptank + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x150dt4xhvarap            150 gal. Droptank + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x100                      2x100lb. Bombs
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvargp             2x100lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvargp1x150dt      2x100lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR + Droptank
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvarap             2x100lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvarap1x150dt      2x100lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR + Droptank
F8F-2.2x100_1x150dt              2x100lb. Bombs + 150 gal. Droptank
F8F-2.2x250                      2x250lb. Bombs
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvargp             2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvargp1x150dt      2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR + Droptank
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvarap             2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvarap1x150dt      2x250lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR + Droptank
F8F-2.2x250_1x150dt              2x250lb. Bombs + 150 gal. Droptank
F8F-2.1x500                      500lb. Bomb
F8F-2.1x500_4xhvargp             500lb. Bomb + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x500_4xhvarap             500lb. Bomb + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x500                      2x500lb. Bombs
F8F-2.2x500_4xhvargp             2x500lb. Bombs + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x500_4xhvarap             2x500lb. Bombs + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.2x500_1x150dt              2x500lb. Bombs + 150 gal. Droptank
F8F-2.1x1000                     1000lb. Bomb
F8F-2.1x1000_4xhvargp            1000lb. Bomb + 4x5" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.1x1000_4xhvarap            1000lb. Bomb + 4x5" AP HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.none                       Empty
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: igora on January 23, 2011, 11:34:36 PM
Very nice iob Gerd! I have a small problem.  I don,t hear a motor sound. I have 4.09, last SAS buttons 7.5
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on January 26, 2011, 09:58:01 AM
Very nice iob Gerd! I have a small problem.  I don,t hear a motor sound. I have 4.09, last SAS buttons 7.5

I release new F8F-2 MOD:D

This MOD'sound  is activated by buttons file that include F8F-2 FMD.
Plase wait new buttons file ;)

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,10588.0.html (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,10588.0.html)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on January 26, 2011, 10:11:44 AM
wow, great! downloading now, thanks, Gerd!  ;D 8)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on January 26, 2011, 01:12:18 PM
Oh very nice! Look forward to flying it later. Thanks, Gerd!  :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on January 26, 2011, 02:53:17 PM
Looks Good Gerd Well Done
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: farang65 on February 08, 2011, 05:10:41 AM
This is an amazing beautiful powerful beast of an aircraft  8) ;) :D

I tested it in 4.10 game version without the environment seems to work ok for the first few tests.

Flying and crashing it.  :D ;)

Would the environment mod be compatible with 4.10.

Can't wait to see a US NAVY blue Angels skin and a few racing skins for this baby  ;D :)

Superb work Gerd  ;D 8)

Cheers Kirby
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duffys tavern on February 08, 2011, 06:51:47 PM
Nice one Rock :)
Here's another for your consideration:
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

Hey Fly, did this one ever make it off the cutting room floor?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: vanir on February 09, 2011, 10:53:26 PM
F-104A will do 10,000ft from brakes off in under 42 seconds. It set this record in 1958. Just short of 30,000ft in 90 secs.

And the MiG is quicker.

A modern fighter, say the Flanker which admitedly has become the measure for all other types to compare, in 55 seconds it does about 40,000ft from brakes off. In 59 seconds it'll do the very same thing with four R-73 and two R-27R slung on pylons. It set these records in 1987/88.

F-16s are tricky vicky. Every production block is a completely different animal. Say we talk a Block 15 well it's got phenomenal initial rates and acceleration but basically isn't really much different to a MiG-23 on those angles, it has about ten times their manoeuvrability and SA though. Get some air under your wings and the MiG will easily outspeed one on any test you care to make, climb, acceleration, airspeed, time to whatever.
But you get something like a Block 50/52 and what you're talking about is something that performs pretty much the same at 25000 than it does at sea level and that's the edge the modern Vipers have.
Still a bit restricted on spools when you're dealing with the big daddies like the Foxhound, which has almost 10% more thrust at 30,000 supersonic than it does at sea level static, it's a scary beasty that actually gets quicker the higher you go and not just because of calculus, so whilst you're climbing and running out of steam it's saying oh yeah baby, come get some, keep coming.

Like what was said though mechanical torque is good for instantaneous acceleration at low speed/alt and those early turbojets needed lots of spooling, meanwhile genuine engine management was almost non-existent, you had to "handle" them, watch airflow overspeeding, pressure temperatures, material limitations, things like that.
When proper management systems appeared and you could finally treat jet engines like four strokes, they got much quicker again, but this didn't really happen too well until the 80s.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on February 10, 2011, 04:58:47 PM
Sorry can't update F8F MOD that reason I'm busy at real work. :(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Fly! on February 18, 2011, 11:12:46 AM
NAVY #122637 finished paint.
https://www.mediafire.com/?vq9u6l52ecr6a15 (https://www.mediafire.com/?vq9u6l52ecr6a15)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on February 18, 2011, 03:37:56 PM
NAVY #122637 finished paint.
https://www.mediafire.com/?69hthu5v0ro130i (https://www.mediafire.com/?69hthu5v0ro130i)

This is very cool skin:D

GJ fly!.
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img824/1262/navysmall.jpg)

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on February 18, 2011, 05:11:28 PM
Where can we get this Skin ?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on February 19, 2011, 04:43:35 PM
Thanks Gerax cant see for looking
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: dietz on February 28, 2011, 09:47:32 AM
Probably somewhere in this long thread but may I ask again the proper working skins folder title...recently there have been a few new skins to add to this marvelous Mod! F-8-F doesn't appear to get the job done..maybe F8F?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Friedrich-Wilhelm on February 28, 2011, 10:11:56 AM
Hi Dietz,

Usually, the name for the skin folder is identical to the first part of the air-ini entry. However, since I do not have this aircraft installed yet, I don't know what the air.ini entry for it is.

Hope this helps,

FW
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: dietz on February 28, 2011, 10:26:12 AM
Hi Dietz,

Usually, the name for the skin folder is identical to the first part of the air-ini entry. However, since I do not have this aircraft installed yet, I don't know what the air.ini entry for it is.
That does make it much easier...but do suggest you download this it makes for great fun as a substitute for the F-6-F in an occasional mission or two!
Hope this helps,

FW
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: dietz on March 01, 2011, 09:32:32 AM
Many thanks- With the help of the previous post I figured it out.I think I sort of knew this but needed confirmation...I love this plane with the possible exception of the prop which isn't quite up to the rest of a beautiful presentation , but after all it is still a Beta & I am grateful for that!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: dietz on March 09, 2011, 10:02:17 AM
Somewhere in this post I think I read the term "Taxi View"...I am unfamiliar with this term/view ( other than chase view that is,) & corresponding key stroke.Can someone fill me in?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on March 09, 2011, 01:18:21 PM
It is the rised position with canopy opened used for carrier landing....
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: dietz on March 09, 2011, 01:42:19 PM
Ah-hah!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: EoW_KYA on March 09, 2011, 08:14:19 PM
I was chewing on a bottle cap and I gasped when I saw this and almost choked on the damn thing


You almost killed me with you Exquisite mod  Beautifully done
Cant wait to fly it

~S~
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: patrick james brian on March 11, 2011, 04:57:49 AM
great plane thanks love it
works well in 4.10
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: w on March 14, 2011, 07:56:49 AM
I found the F8F-2 Alpha and 4.10 Beta version -
is there no UP201 4.09 Beta F8F-2 on this thread?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on March 19, 2011, 11:25:45 PM
I believe that Japan will be reconstruction. :(

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img715/6228/29296046.jpg)

If Japan been reconstruction then I restart Modding :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Dark Apostle on March 20, 2011, 12:27:53 AM
S! Gerd, good to see your okay matey!  Take your time and hope everything is okay with you and your family/friends.

Btw..is that Corsair what I think it is?!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Poltava on March 20, 2011, 12:39:08 AM
Gerd, yes good to  see that you and other valued modders made it through.

Of course you will get out of this. Japan has been through much, much worse.

And that F8F is SO beautiful!!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on March 20, 2011, 03:13:17 AM
Thx Dark Apostle & Poltava .

I want to make F2G at next time:D
Please wait ..
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on March 20, 2011, 06:14:12 AM
Maybe you can think that the sun is down....but remember that the darkest hour of the night is the one that preceed dawn!!!

Your sun 'll rise again and stronger than before!!!

All the best to you and all your countryman!!!

walter
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on March 20, 2011, 07:02:42 AM
All The Best to you and all of Japan, Gerd!
It is one brave and strong nation, my biggest respect to your country!!

And thank you for the great F-8F mod.

 :)

Thorsten
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: dietz on March 20, 2011, 12:06:13 PM
I haven't reviewed all 30 pages of this thread about this beautiful Grumman Cat but did want to ask this skin question anyway: I know there have been a few postings about this already:but has anyone done this in Blue Angels colors,or could someone try it( I realize this might be better posted in "Requests" so, moderator, please feel free to move it there..Thanks!)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 10, 2011, 10:53:28 AM
I'm developing F8F's decals :D
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img508/4066/decalf8f.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: razor1uk on April 10, 2011, 11:53:52 AM
???????????????? Watashi wa, anata ga daij?bu ureshiidesu. I'am glad your ok Gerd:)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on April 10, 2011, 02:44:09 PM
???????????????? Watashi wa, anata ga daij?bu ureshiidesu. I'am glad your ok Gerd:)


+1
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 11, 2011, 10:45:16 AM
???????????????? Watashi wa, anata ga daij?bu ureshiidesu. I'am glad your ok Gerd:)
Thx you! Very nice japanese!

Do not wary. I'm fine:D

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img853/1089/decalf8f2.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: rollnloop on April 11, 2011, 12:12:53 PM
This Bearcat, while looking very good, is a bit distorted, just like if it was compressed from nose to tail. Is it the model or the way screenshots are resized before posting ?

Pictures of the real one here to compare: http://www.google.com/images?hl=fr&source=hp&biw=1016&bih=568&q=F8F+bearcat&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 11, 2011, 04:33:33 PM
This Bearcat, while looking very good, is a bit distorted, just like if it was compressed from nose to tail. Is it the model or the way screenshots are resized before posting ?

Pictures of the real one here to compare: http://www.google.com/images?hl=fr&source=hp&biw=1016&bih=568&q=F8F+bearcat&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=

This F8F is developed to meet the three view. ;)
Therefore, I think that F8F's look short because of the IL-2 3D effect. :-\
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on April 11, 2011, 08:28:06 PM
Good to see you are still plugging away there Gerd Well Done
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Birdman on April 11, 2011, 09:32:43 PM
I also think the distortion is caused by wide FOW that makes left wing look long.

BTW, will this great plane one day get proper damage model and maybe even possibility to use overlay markings for different countries? This one with only numbers is great for USA slot, but I hope to see a multi slot model with markings one day.

I also have issues with the beta version exploding pretty easily when engine gets hit by a bullet from bomber's defensive armament.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: rustydawg on April 12, 2011, 11:17:45 AM
I'm glad to hear your OK Gerd. The F2G Super Corsair is looking great. Here's something that might help with the canopy. I read this in a book about the Corsair development.

A Engineer from Republic (Makers of the P-47) came to Vought with a bubble canopy from a P-47 and the blueprints, and pressure specs also. It was the whole canopy, including the front windshield.
If you look at a picture of a P-47-D25 with the bubble canopy, and a picture of a F2G Super Corsair with the bubble canopy they have the exact same canopy including the front windshield.

I don't know if you could use the bubble canopy from the game or not, but you'll have a basic idea where to start.

I hope that helps.

Best regards,

rustydawg
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 12, 2011, 09:20:07 PM
I also think the distortion is caused by wide FOW that makes left wing look long.

BTW, will this great plane one day get proper damage model and maybe even possibility to use overlay markings for different countries? This one with only numbers is great for USA slot, but I hope to see a multi slot model with markings one day.

I also have issues with the beta version exploding pretty easily when engine gets hit by a bullet from bomber's defensive armament.

I developping mulislot model too:D
Decal place gun damage might have issues. :-\
I will consider this problem.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 12, 2011, 09:31:24 PM
I'm glad to hear your OK Gerd. The F2G Super Corsair is looking great. Here's something that might help with the canopy. I read this in a book about the Corsair development.

A Engineer from Republic (Makers of the P-47) came to Vought with a bubble canopy from a P-47 and the blueprints, and pressure specs also. It was the whole canopy, including the front windshield.
If you look at a picture of a P-47-D25 with the bubble canopy, and a picture of a F2G Super Corsair with the bubble canopy they have the exact same canopy including the front windshield.

I don't know if you could use the bubble canopy from the game or not, but you'll have a basic idea where to start.

I hope that helps.

Best regards,

rustydawg

Thank  Information of F2G.
I think that F2G have two type canopies (P47 conpatible & F2G original).
Eary type F2G have P47 conpatible canopy.
But,Late type F2G have original canopy.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 14, 2011, 10:48:23 AM
Blue Angels!
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img545/4287/bluep.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on April 14, 2011, 11:19:42 AM
First Blue Angels plane!! Well done Gerd
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 14, 2011, 11:38:54 AM
First Blue Angels plane!! Well done Gerd

Thx!

But,This skin is under construction.

You can down load proto type skin from under follow site.
https://www.mediafire.com/download.php?15izyvdo0d710wo
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on April 14, 2011, 11:48:10 AM
Thank you, Gerd! Cool,Blue Angels!  :D :)

Tom
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: saab ja26 on April 14, 2011, 12:39:09 PM
Wow! Awesome looking skin!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on April 14, 2011, 07:11:30 PM
Very Nice Gerd Well Done Old Boy
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 16, 2011, 11:22:23 AM
I'm tired by riveting..
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img96/7600/testycr.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 17, 2011, 01:11:56 AM
 :'(
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img811/4741/testfu.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: snoopy on April 17, 2011, 01:15:35 AM
Yes, now the "Bear" looks realy good! :P ;D
Thank you for your awesome work!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on April 17, 2011, 02:29:46 AM
Hi mate!

The historical number of the rivet used in building Bearcat during line assembling is (from original manifacturing manual) 17527....in your screenshoot I see only 17525 of them....I hope that you fix each one!!

:D

I'M KIDDING!!!!!

I know how annoying is make such kind of work!!!

You did it in a great way!!!!

Thanks for your dedition!!!

All the best!

walter
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Batbomb on April 17, 2011, 02:32:06 AM
Loos superb Gert! Thank you!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: razor1uk on April 17, 2011, 05:42:03 AM
 ??? Riveting Developments Ahead  ???
Keep it up Gerd, sofar your tedious riveting is progressing well to look very good when its done - I find just trying to decide on what opacity & layer settings to use for light & dark rivets on templates hard enough.

I couldn't find a 'Tomoko the Riveter' or similar pic ...so here's Winry the Mechanic instead
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSQwTtKL5Jlvl-snCAYSNYwV9Wj2C4-2EShJ1grCcXPsHn8MWDm)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on April 17, 2011, 05:55:38 AM
Outstanding as always!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 17, 2011, 06:15:00 AM
??? Riveting Developments Ahead  ???
Keep it up Gerd, sofar your tedious riveting is progressing well to look very good when its done - I find just trying to decide on what opacity & layer settings to use for light & dark rivets on templates hard enough.

I couldn't find a 'Tomoko the Riveter' or similar pic ...so here's Winry the Mechanic instead
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSQwTtKL5Jlvl-snCAYSNYwV9Wj2C4-2EShJ1grCcXPsHn8MWDm)

I referring to the following site templates of F8F. :D
http://www.vertigostudios.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?6-F8F-Bearcat

It is also likely some mistakes. .
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: razor1uk on April 17, 2011, 06:25:18 AM
Not as many mistakes or differences that differing aviation artist have between each others plans/drawings of tne same A/C. Go with what you feel looks & seems right Gerd.
Ganbatte!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 18, 2011, 10:53:23 AM
I fond many miss of FSX template.
And,I should draw panel line and rivetting. :'(
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Poltava on April 18, 2011, 11:07:05 AM
Wonderful job! You deserve a medal or something!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on April 19, 2011, 01:34:07 AM
Boy Oh Boy you have come a long way with this Gerd its looking Sweeter all the time
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on April 19, 2011, 01:41:54 AM
Fantastic Gerd, Looking great mate :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on April 19, 2011, 02:15:14 AM
Looking really good mate!!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 19, 2011, 12:04:28 PM
I refine upper wing panel line & rivet. :P
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img822/3884/testdv.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Pink_Tigger on April 19, 2011, 01:39:48 PM
I've just to count them : a pair of rivets are missing. :P

No kidding, nice job. Note the panel line on the engine does not perfectly join with the top part. ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: razor1uk on April 20, 2011, 06:08:25 AM
I've just to count them : a pair of rivets are missing. :P

No kidding, nice job. Note the panel line on the engine does not perfectly join with the top part. ;)

Its only... mmm... 9 pixels out(?) looking at the pic I guestimate. Like the progression Gerd  8)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Fly! on April 20, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
"Construction [of the F8F Bearcat]featured spot welding and flushed rivets." so I would keep the opacity low on this layer. :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 22, 2011, 10:36:46 PM
"Construction [of the F8F Bearcat]featured spot welding and flushed rivets." so I would keep the opacity low on this layer. :)

I think that F8F rivets is low visibility:D
It is almost complete.

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img18/5246/testta.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img811/3391/test7x.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Poltava on April 22, 2011, 11:32:02 PM
Super job by Gerd the riveter!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on April 23, 2011, 02:40:43 AM
I'll nominate you for the next 'Golden Rivet' award!!!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 23, 2011, 03:54:42 AM
I update BLUE ANGELS skin. :D

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ASi4Fdj-K0
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: ReiSen on April 23, 2011, 07:50:16 AM
Excellent work!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: snoopy on April 23, 2011, 09:01:25 AM
 :D :D :D :D :D :P  I like it!!!!!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: razor1uk on April 23, 2011, 11:04:07 AM
 :P 8) ;D :-*
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Storebror on April 24, 2011, 12:44:53 AM
I just gave it a try on my Modact 3 4.10.1 installation but unfortunately went into a 60% (=missing FM) CTD. Putting the buttons from the F-8F in place doesn't work either since then other FMs from the SAS buttons are missing.
I'd tend to say that if the F-8F refers to the Sea Fury or Corsair FM, there seems to be some naming issue. Otherwise, if it already has it's own FM, it might be adviseable to use and/or include DiffFM into the test package.

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 24, 2011, 01:19:44 AM
I just gave it a try on my Modact 3 4.10.1 installation but unfortunately went into a 60% (=missing FM) CTD. Putting the buttons from the F-8F in place doesn't work either since then other FMs from the SAS buttons are missing.
I'd tend to say that if the F-8F refers to the Sea Fury or Corsair FM, there seems to be some naming issue. Otherwise, if it already has it's own FM, it might be adviseable to use and/or include DiffFM into the test package.

Best regards - Mike

Please tell me that DiffFM for 4.10.1 MOD download site.
I will debug this problem.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Storebror on April 24, 2011, 01:31:38 AM
Thx Gerd, here you go: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,12169.0.html

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: ReiSen on April 24, 2011, 01:46:50 AM
Gerd, please upload skin.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 24, 2011, 01:59:08 AM
Gerd, please upload skin.

Please wait next version. ;)
Because This skin need new 3D model(UV Mapping changed).
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 24, 2011, 02:06:05 AM
BLUE ANGELS skin Prototype version 2 ;)
https://www.mediafire.com/download.php?kw01vz8cu85hh9m

CAUTION! This skin have a little problem in canopy rived. :'(
(This problem will be fixed at next version.)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: ReiSen on April 24, 2011, 02:25:22 AM
Thank Gred, in game all is very beautiful!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Stanko-01 on April 24, 2011, 02:39:33 AM
Woah Gerd,
nice job mate ....

You're progressing really fast  ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on April 24, 2011, 06:58:41 AM
Cool! Thank you very much, Gerd! :)

Tom
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 24, 2011, 03:20:57 PM
I just gave it a try on my Modact 3 4.10.1 installation but unfortunately went into a 60% (=missing FM) CTD. Putting the buttons from the F-8F in place doesn't work either since then other FMs from the SAS buttons are missing.
I'd tend to say that if the F-8F refers to the Sea Fury or Corsair FM, there seems to be some naming issue. Otherwise, if it already has it's own FM, it might be adviseable to use and/or include DiffFM into the test package.

Best regards - Mike

SAS buttons file ver 8.6
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,97.0.html

Your IL-2 occurs CDT when using buttons file?
You tell me using the buttons and air.ini.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Storebror on April 25, 2011, 01:36:32 AM
Found it Gerd.
Actually I didn't notice first hand that your 4.10 package contained a whole com/maddox/il2/objects/air.ini and gui/game/buttons structure. After deleting those two folders from the pack (and the empty FlightModels folder), the mod works fine in 4.10.1 for me.
The buttons were already fine for me and according to the logfile they contain an F8F-2 FM already.

Thanks and best regards - Mike
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 04, 2011, 03:58:48 AM
I have created a 3D damage model, But I used too high polygon. . :P

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: razor1uk on May 04, 2011, 06:45:05 AM
Its developing well Gerd, lovely looking motor :D - I'd imagine simplifiing polycounts its a bit easier than trying to add to them? Ganbatte Gerd
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 06, 2011, 03:46:18 PM
I corrected exhaust pipe. :D
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: stansdds on May 07, 2011, 04:29:49 AM
That is looking great, especially given the constraints of modeling in Il-2.

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: farang65 on May 07, 2011, 09:08:28 PM
Hey Gerd

Love flying this ever so sexy lined beastie  :D ;D 8)

Looking forward to the new improvements engine is awesome  :D

Blue Angels skin is very cool too  8)

Cheers Kirby
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Riptide_One on May 09, 2011, 07:04:26 AM
Gerd,

Your Bearcat is an exceptional addition to the game. She's beautiful (in my opinion), powerful and surprisingly maneuverable. Most importantly, I think you have gone a fine job of making the F8F a part of IL-2. Thanks! ;D

Cheers,

Riptide
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 14, 2011, 12:20:07 AM
Small update :D
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img813/2883/engine01.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Batbomb on May 14, 2011, 02:09:29 AM
wow! Thats great! This engine looks very realistic.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Stanko-01 on May 14, 2011, 08:57:14 AM
I think i'm in love with that Pratt & Whitney R-2800-30W  :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: laheugan on May 14, 2011, 09:32:18 AM
we should remove that image of the engine. ITS TOO GOOD! :O
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on May 14, 2011, 04:47:35 PM
Mate what Great Detail Well Done Gerd Keep it up
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: razor1uk on May 14, 2011, 05:19:26 PM
??????????????????/Gerd made an attractive engine, just needs a warm sump and spark plugs :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 22, 2011, 08:58:12 AM
I am modifying smoothing of 3D model. :D
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: razor1uk on May 22, 2011, 09:05:38 AM
Looking better and better Gerd, sugoi! Semi-jokingly, ...if only I had a misses to take care of the after effects of seeing this update.... (virtual aero/metal/engineers porn)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on May 22, 2011, 10:52:15 AM
happens to me after watching a few episodes of "las vegas"
holy moly...
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on June 12, 2011, 03:22:45 AM
Semi-nude video  :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndjQ_UaonnQ
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Csocso on June 12, 2011, 03:36:39 AM
Impressive! :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Wildchild on June 12, 2011, 07:20:37 AM
you have to keep that model without cowling, keep it as a static plane so we can decorate with some crews replacing the motor :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: razor1uk on June 12, 2011, 07:49:38 AM
I second Wild's future wish/idea even if it's without 'Erks'.
Might there be a possibility in the future for a wrecked static model have part or all of cowling open, damaged or removed (because it was blown off , melted or opened by aero firefighter crew/personnel)?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Wildchild on June 12, 2011, 07:55:46 AM
even a damaged model will work  :P
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: michel_boonstra1974 on June 12, 2011, 10:24:21 AM
Great plane, thanks Gerd and those involved making this awesome bird. I love to fly this one!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Docholiday on June 13, 2011, 02:14:12 AM
Semi-nude video  :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndjQ_UaonnQ

Sorry I can`t resist   ;) 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7LJG4_kyv0

after Your great Bearcat I found this !    Thx for Your Ideas and Your work  !!!!


Doc
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Anatoli on July 16, 2011, 01:15:34 AM
Hi everyone...

Any news about this terrific WIP ?  ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on July 16, 2011, 06:20:42 PM
Hi everyone...

Any news about this terrific WIP ?  ;)

I construction inside the wing.

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img19/9982/f8fo.jpg)

but, I'm busy at real work:(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Anatoli on July 17, 2011, 01:28:44 PM
Same : wow !!  :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on July 17, 2011, 02:03:35 PM
That looks fantastic Gerd! Would it be possible to make it so that when we press the "Airbrake" key it opens the cowling so we can see that amazing engine? :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on July 18, 2011, 01:30:44 AM
That looks fantastic Gerd! Would it be possible to make it so that when we press the "Airbrake" key it opens the cowling so we can see that amazing engine? :)

Nice Idea!
I think "bomb bay" key is better than "Airbrake" key. Because F8F have air brake. :D

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: danbigel on July 18, 2011, 01:55:05 AM
Nice, nice, nice. I know the work you do is huge and wonderful. I wanted to know when you think you have done this aircraft because it is beautiful. Why? Because I am preparing a campaign Indochina and wish to integrate it into this one. For the cockpit, you keep the accounts of the F6F?

 To read you and congratulations
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Anatoli on September 14, 2011, 04:56:05 AM
Hi everyone...  :)

Any news about this superb WIP? ...

Can't wait !!!  ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on September 14, 2011, 07:51:27 AM
Hi everyone...  :)

Any news about this superb WIP? ...

Can't wait !!!  ;)

Sorry. I'm very busy in real work.  :'(
Please wait.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on September 19, 2011, 10:21:31 AM
I restart modding! ;)

(I tested adding cables of engine.)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img839/3793/test13a.jpg)

(I tested swapping engine of F8F.)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img16/9813/f6fa.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Jonzynator on September 19, 2011, 11:19:00 AM
Looks great m8t, keep the the good work!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Batbomb on September 19, 2011, 11:55:25 AM
Yeah looks very good there!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on September 19, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
Indeed! Looks gorgeous!  :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Schwieger on September 19, 2011, 02:25:31 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on September 24, 2011, 09:06:04 PM
Sorry to skinner of F8F. :'(
I'm modifying UV mapping.

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: [URU]Mustang on September 24, 2011, 11:55:34 PM
Cool, a shame that old skins won't work, do you think that it is close to release, or are you going to build a new cockpit?
Cheers :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Hemi on September 25, 2011, 01:56:23 AM
Hi Gerd! Wonderfull work !  What about your corsair F2G ?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on September 25, 2011, 02:02:14 AM
do not say sorry. you improve your product and your skills. the interested painters get a new chance to paint the plane again. better. sexier.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on September 25, 2011, 04:56:48 AM
I will develop cockpit. but, it is not start.
F2G developing will restart after this project.
(May develop before this project when  I get tired of this project.)
I want to make  better this MOD.  :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on September 25, 2011, 05:31:51 AM
yes, absolutely - you are doing the hard work - the skinners will adapt once the model is done to your satisfaction.
i have no problem doing the skins over - much easier than trying to re-model the plane...! ;)

it's looking great, Gerd! keep up the epic work! (lol, same thing crazyflak just typed -  ;D )
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Hemi on September 25, 2011, 06:19:20 AM
I will develop cockpit. but, it is not start.
F2G developing will restart after this project.
(May develop before this project when  I get tired of this project.)
I want to make  better this MOD.  :D

Thanks! Good Job, can't wait!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duffys tavern on September 25, 2011, 10:10:42 AM
Love this a/c and what you've done with it so far. Please keep it up and thanx for sharing.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: nonaiansia on September 26, 2011, 01:08:32 AM
Fantastic work, i love this beast!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 03, 2011, 12:58:13 AM
Hello,
First I wish to congratulate you for the moddeling of this nice bird.
I love it !
Then, I want to introduce the skining I've started with your first model (old mapping).
Since I'm French, I've started with French planes.
My first attempt was to make something like that :

(http://www.zargos-skins.net/images/post_skin/f8f-wip-02.jpg)

And here is the "in game" result :

(http://www.zargos-skins.net/images/post_skin/f8f-wip-03.jpg)

(http://www.zargos-skins.net/images/post_skin/f8f-wip-04.jpg)

Honnestly, I'm rather satisfighted, enventhough I could certainly make some color adjustements ...
Nevertheless the skin isn't finsihed yet and there is many things left to do.

By the way the fact you've changed the mapping in not of great importance for us skinners
I will just have, to cut, copy, translate, rotate ... to match with your new desing.
The most important in this matter is to have the best 3D model possible with the most "skinner-convenient" mapping.
I'w eagerly looking forward to discoverinr your final work.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 05, 2011, 03:05:55 PM
I'm creating damage skin.. :D
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img534/3461/damaged.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 05, 2011, 04:12:24 PM
Thank you cool skin!
French bear cat is only fighter that combat proven.

I have to change the UV mapping for effective use of the skin area to do. (to share the skin area for inside wing and so on)
However, please do not worry.
I will only change the UV mapping of the one side wing.
And,I will release better skin template at next version. :D

Hello,
First I wish to congratulate you for the moddeling of this nice bird.
I love it !
Then, I want to introduce the skining I've started with your first model (old mapping).
Since I'm French, I've started with French planes.
My first attempt was to make something like that :

(http://www.zargos-skins.net/images/post_skin/f8f-wip-02.jpg)

And here is the "in game" result :

(http://www.zargos-skins.net/images/post_skin/f8f-wip-03.jpg)

(http://www.zargos-skins.net/images/post_skin/f8f-wip-04.jpg)

Honnestly, I'm rather satisfighted, enventhough I could certainly make some color adjustements ...
Nevertheless the skin isn't finsihed yet and there is many things left to do.

By the way the fact you've changed the mapping in not of great importance for us skinners
I will just have, to cut, copy, translate, rotate ... to match with your new desing.
The most important in this matter is to have the best 3D model possible with the most "skinner-convenient" mapping.
I'w eagerly looking forward to discoverinr your final work.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Pursuivant on October 05, 2011, 08:40:54 PM
Two gentle criticisms about the damage skin.

1) It would look more realistic if the damage was spread more randomly across the wings, rather than being concentrated along the thickest portion of the wing chord.

2) There should only be oil/fuel streaks on the wing surface if there is a fuel, hydraulic or oil tank underneath.

Other than that, the damage textures look very good!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 06, 2011, 12:53:14 AM
@Gerd :
Nice damage model, but what a pity to damage such a nice bird !

For those who are interested the skin of the French Bearcat is available HERE (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads3&file=details&id=980).

(http://zargos-skins.net/images/visionneuse/f8f-auvergne/f8f-auvergne-06.jpg)

(http://zargos-skins.net/images/visionneuse/f8f-auvergne/f8f-auvergne-05.jpg)

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: thewood on October 06, 2011, 11:00:10 AM
Is the current download link still the one on the first page?  Just making sure.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 06, 2011, 11:17:43 AM
Is the current download link still the one on the first page?  Just making sure.
I think so.
I used it to DL all the stuff and make my skins.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 07, 2011, 11:57:50 AM
I modified damage skin.
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img839/864/damaged3.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Roger Smith on October 07, 2011, 12:06:38 PM
nice
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on October 08, 2011, 01:11:48 AM
yes - very nice, Gerd! :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 08, 2011, 02:22:33 AM
Arrrgggghhhh !
I'm looking forward to flying the final model ... and to make some other skins !
Good job Gerd.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Wad_Cutter on October 08, 2011, 01:36:28 PM
I was just wondering if there is any time frame yet to when all of us would be able to fly this aircraft?
This started November 10, 2010 and today is October 8, 2011. Just asking, nothing more.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Storebror on October 09, 2011, 12:56:08 AM
when all of us would be able to fly this aircraft?
You can always pick the alpha version from download link in the first post of this thread.
It's fun to fly and a sweet teaser for the final version, which of course takes it's time.

See, that's the difference between the bunch of franken popups which we've seen lately (which I do like to a certain extend as well) and Gerd's bearcat:
Gerd started from the scratch and he takes much care to eventually provide a bug-free, historically correct and very precise IL-2 implementation of it.
I love it, and I'd rather wait another year for the final version of this one than picking a frankened wannabe.

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 09, 2011, 01:18:18 AM
Hi Wad_Cutter,
Rather than complaining about the time Gerd is spending in modeling the F8F, you should support him, because he is really doing something exceptional (as  Claymore for the D520 and many others).
Of course it is very long, first because 3D modeling softwares are very complex and are difficult to handle.
Then,  keep in mind that moders, skiners and other IL2 contributors are working for free during their free time and must also handle professional and family life.
Please also consider that they want to make something as perfect as possible and spend great amount of time in fixing details that will make the model or the skin really good.
If you want things to go faster, you may offer your help to Gerd ?
Cheers.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Poltava on October 09, 2011, 02:16:05 AM
+1. I am grateful for the massive amounts of work, skill and time he pours into this project, and am perfectly willing to wait until its finished properly.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Wad_Cutter on October 09, 2011, 12:56:36 PM
It was a simple question and nothing more. I guess I forget my place. Sorry, it won't ever happen again.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: razor1uk on October 09, 2011, 01:05:28 PM
Amazing! ..its looking sexier and sexier as it progresses Gerd, keep it up & all the best !!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on October 09, 2011, 02:13:13 PM
I have not seen anything on whether the over-G wingtips are going to be modeled, that would be a rude awakening to look left and right and see yer missing real estate on your wingspan...lol.

I can't wait to have this in it's own permanent slot.  Looking for the final on the late Corsairs too.  Can update the Korean missions I have built. 

Looks great, don't quit till yer done.........
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 09, 2011, 04:52:12 PM
Thx every one! :D

Sorry,I can only create MOD when between real work busy status.
Please wait patiently.

P.S
F8F-2 don't have safety wingtips.

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img403/8376/damaged9.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on October 10, 2011, 05:31:38 PM
Looking Good Mate
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Pursuivant on October 11, 2011, 04:42:34 PM
Great job making the ripped up aluminum look right.

If you're feeling a bit bolder, you could make some more alpha cuts for the big holes in the tail, rear fuselage and outer wing (assuming there's underlying structure you want to show off).

Were the control surfaces of the F8F fabric or aluminum? In the latter case, the cutouts on the ailerons, rudder and elevators would look better if they were edged with a "chewed up aluminum" texture.

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duffys tavern on October 11, 2011, 07:24:20 PM
Very nice, indeed!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 12, 2011, 01:21:52 AM
Top work on damaged skins !
It's more and more difficult to wait for the release !
 ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 16, 2011, 01:58:07 AM
I modified alpha of damaged skin.
and  modified cap mesh..

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img511/5043/test18.jpg)

Great job making the ripped up aluminum look right.

If you're feeling a bit bolder, you could make some more alpha cuts for the big holes in the tail, rear fuselage and outer wing (assuming there's underlying structure you want to show off).

Were the control surfaces of the F8F fabric or aluminum? In the latter case, the cutouts on the ailerons, rudder and elevators would look better if they were edged with a "chewed up aluminum" texture.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on October 16, 2011, 12:00:44 PM
Great work! :)


Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duffys tavern on October 16, 2011, 06:08:10 PM
Love the one we have now and it's hard to wait for this improved version. Great job!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 23, 2011, 04:28:48 PM
These are new screen shots. :D
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img641/7827/f8fnew.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img98/268/10467299.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img33/9402/65213785.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 101tfs on October 23, 2011, 04:37:58 PM
Great work
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Schwieger on October 23, 2011, 06:38:22 PM
Brilliant!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on October 23, 2011, 07:07:06 PM
Good job! :D ;D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: CzechTexan on October 23, 2011, 08:32:46 PM
Looking great so far and the damage model is good.
I just have an observation though.  I'm not an expert on the Bearcat but I noticed the guns are protruding far out of the wings.  I always thought that the guns were hidden inside the wings and it shows on the French planes in the photos a couple pages earlier.  Maybe I'm wrong.  Please correct me if so.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 24, 2011, 12:30:18 AM
Nice work on the internals and damage layer.
I'm eagerly looking forward to making skins from your new mapping !
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: singüe on October 24, 2011, 03:04:03 AM
Really good!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Ruddertab on October 24, 2011, 05:41:10 AM
Looking great so far and the damage model is good.
I just have an observation though.  I'm not an expert on the Bearcat but I noticed the guns are protruding far out of the wings.  I always thought that the guns were hidden inside the wings and it shows on the French planes in the photos a couple pages earlier.  Maybe I'm wrong.  Please correct me if so.

France received about 140 F8F-1 and -1Bs. The F8F-1 have four 0,5 in machine guns while the -1B model have four 20mm cannons. The F8F-2 is an improved version, equipped with a redesigned engine cowling, taller fin and rudder, armed with four 20 mm cannons.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: ReiSen on October 24, 2011, 10:49:17 AM
Super!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 26, 2011, 05:17:14 PM
French & Blue Angels F8F. :D

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img827/7451/frenchm.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img695/2314/bluehr.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img833/6342/52999988.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on October 26, 2011, 06:21:01 PM
Mate that looks Bloody Awsum Well Done
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Pursuivant on October 26, 2011, 06:34:11 PM
Great work!

Forgive me if the admins interpret this as a request, but are you also intending to include a "1946" style camo job - in gloss navy blue with WW2-era "stars and bars" without the red stripe? It would seem like a simple tweak of the current French and Korean War skins and F8Fs were on their way to fight against Japan when the war ended.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 26, 2011, 09:25:17 PM
My skin is just a sample.
And, I want cool skin created by skinner. :D

I want to release new beta MOD  for skinner on Halloween.

Great work!

Forgive me if the admins interpret this as a request, but are you also intending to include a "1946" style camo job - in gloss navy blue with WW2-era "stars and bars" without the red stripe? It would seem like a simple tweak of the current French and Korean War skins and F8Fs were on their way to fight against Japan when the war ended.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 27, 2011, 01:16:46 AM
My skin is just a sample.
And, I want cool skin created by skinner. :D
Just ask ... I'm ready !
 ;)

I want to release new beta MOD  for skinner on Halloween.
This is the best news of the week !
 :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on October 27, 2011, 02:28:05 AM
Pursuivant, not really worried about your skin 'request' but i think it's only fair to let Gerd finish the model with some basic skins, and any other skins can be easily done by skinners after release.
i can assure you, many skinners(as is apparent from previous posts) are chomping at the bit to get stuck into skinning this great plane. :D
to expect Gerd to make many different skins as well, is probably being a bit unfair, don't you think? ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 27, 2011, 04:54:09 PM
i can assure you, many skinners(as is apparent from previous posts) are chomping at the bit to get stuck into skinning this great plane. :D
That's true.
I'll be one of the skinners that will make some skins for this bird.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Pursuivant on October 27, 2011, 08:42:08 PM
Pursuivant, not really worried about your skin 'request' but i think it's only fair to let Gerd finish the model with some basic skins, and any other skins can be easily done by skinners after release.

Fair enough. Once it's released I can easily see the F8F being a favorite plane to skin. By the end of the Pacific war, every carrier in the fleet had distinctive wing and tail markings for its planes, so there's a lot of potential there for "1946" style skins. As long as you don't mind variations of navy blue and white, that is. . . :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 28, 2011, 04:23:56 PM
I like F8F of Tom's Cat :D
Halloween MOD is  viewable the spinner by  Hier.him.

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img442/771/tomscat.jpg)

(http://www.redpegasusdecals.com/images/Gallery/BEARCATS0001_1_1a.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 29, 2011, 02:33:33 AM
Wahoo !
This new model with spiner will allow some nice racer skins !
By the way, I've started some historical skins from new Gerd's UVmapping.
Just a preview, the skin is still "wip" and I've many things to add to finish the skin.
I just started "personnal" internal according pictures I have :

(http://www.zargos-skins.net/images/post_skin/f8f-wip-19.jpg)

(http://www.zargos-skins.net/images/post_skin/f8f-wip-20.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Metatron on October 29, 2011, 04:46:25 AM
This plane reminds me of the Sopwith Camel in design philosophy.

Great skins!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 29, 2011, 09:52:45 AM
I released Halloween Edition MOD!
Please DL it.  :D

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img819/771/tomscat.jpg)

Normal Version:
https://www.mediafire.com/download.php?a6iimaaegdqlkk4

Racer Version:(Spinner & Tail Visible)
https://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mre51j5c2u3fo14
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 29, 2011, 10:10:34 AM
Hi Gerd.
I've DL your latest mod, but I dont see any version with spinner.
Did I miss something ?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 29, 2011, 10:14:25 AM
Please rename TomsCat_hier.him to hier.him at Gerd's_F8F-2_Beta_0_1\3do\plane\F8F-2.
Initially spinner and tail will not be displayed.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on October 29, 2011, 10:25:09 AM
Thank you, Gerd :) ;D!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: ten010 on October 29, 2011, 11:11:02 AM
Thank you!! Great work!

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on October 29, 2011, 02:07:34 PM
renamed heir.him to -heir.him, renamed TomCats_heir.him to heir.him, and I get no spinner either.  is there something wrong with the download, I downloaded it 3 times to make sure there were no glitches and corrupt files.  Are you deleting the initial F8F.2 beta and installing this download or pasting it directly over the old one?

Noticed on the arm screen the old skins put on this new model the panel lines on the port wing are missing.................. bummer!


Thanks.

took about 5 cycles through the quick mission builder and the spinner shows up.  Old skins still no good, the French skins port wing is the Blue's wing.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 29, 2011, 03:07:32 PM
Sorry. New Version MOD is not compatible old skin(UV mapping).
 :'(
If you can't change visible spinner & tail then please download this MOD.
https://www.mediafire.com/download.php?56numgrzngnwrz9

This MOD have initially visible spinner & tail.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Birdman on October 29, 2011, 03:59:39 PM
Great work with one of my favorite planes, thanks a lot!

Unfortunately, I can't test her in game today, but tomorrow I'll have some nice test fights.

While looking at the files I noticed that collision meshes are only included in D0 meshes. In all other planes there are collision meshes included in meshes for every damage level, and collision meshes in hidden meshes seem to have no effect, so I expect that all F8F parts thus can't be damaged anymore after first bullet holes appear. So, if you have difficulties to shoot down and seriously damage F8F, then you can fix that by copying all collision meshes from D0 meshes to damaged meshes (and preferably add references to hier.him also, although that seems to be optional). I can test and confirm this tomorrow since I can't be sure about this without testing.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 29, 2011, 06:39:27 PM
I changed the hier.him file and I see the spinner.
I suppose that in the final release both versions should be available withe out changing the file each time ...
 ;)

I'm currently changing my former skins (the french one) to make the fit with the new mapping.

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 29, 2011, 07:39:31 PM
Thank you for your advice.
I feel My F8F is too toughness.
I  saw reason toughness:D

I release corrected this problem version.
Please download from following site.

 Normal Version:
https://www.mediafire.com/?kd65unapg6mbmv2

 Racer Version:(Spinner & Tail Visible)
https://www.mediafire.com/?48dbd9phm8ee7zq


Great work with one of my favorite planes, thanks a lot!

Unfortunately, I can't test her in game today, but tomorrow I'll have some nice test fights.

While looking at the files I noticed that collision meshes are only included in D0 meshes. In all other planes there are collision meshes included in meshes for every damage level, and collision meshes in hidden meshes seem to have no effect, so I expect that all F8F parts thus can't be damaged anymore after first bullet holes appear. So, if you have difficulties to shoot down and seriously damage F8F, then you can fix that by copying all collision meshes from D0 meshes to damaged meshes (and preferably add references to hier.him also, although that seems to be optional). I can test and confirm this tomorrow since I can't be sure about this without testing.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Wad_Cutter on October 29, 2011, 08:00:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umrp1tIBY8Q
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 29, 2011, 08:31:13 PM
Sorry,I can't understand  mean of this movie. :'(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 30, 2011, 02:13:59 AM
Sorry,I can't understand  mean of this movie. :'(
Neither do I ...
May be a mistake in the link ...

Thank you for providing 2 different versions.
Can these two ones be used simultaneously in the game ?
I ask this question beacause the air.ini additional line is the same for both version.
I suppose that it is necessary to choose one version before launching IL2.
Is that correct ?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on October 30, 2011, 03:14:56 AM
Gerd, in your last post with the latest links, the normal version indicates the file is deleted.
is this correct, or is it a problem?
thanks for the great update, this plane is really nice! :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 30, 2011, 03:28:27 AM
Gerd, in your last post with the latest links, the normal version indicates the file is deleted.
is this correct, or is it a problem?
thanks for the great update, this plane is really nice! :D
Sorry.
I will re upload this MOD soon.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: BP_dFrog on October 30, 2011, 03:30:58 AM
weapon.properties entries for this beautiful bird

#####################################################################
# F8F-2
#####################################################################
F8F-2.default                           Default
F8F-2.4xhvar2                           4x 2,75" HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.4xhvargp                          4x HVAR Rockets
F8F-2.4xhvarap                          4x HVAR AP Rockets
F8F-2.1x150dt4xhvar2                    4x 2,75" HVAR + 150gal. Droptank
F8F-2.1x150dt4xhvargp                   4x HVAR + 150gal. Droptank
F8F-2.1x150dt4xhvarap                   4x HVAR AP + 150gal. Droptank
F8F-2.2x100                             2x 100lbs. Bombs
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvargp                    2x 100lbs. + 4x HVAR
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvarap                    2x 100lbs. + 4x HVAR AP
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvargp1x150dt             2x 100lbs. + 4x HVAR + 1x 150gal. DT
F8F-2.2x100_4xhvarap1x150dt             2x 100lbs. + 4x HVAR AP + 1x 150gal. DT
F8F-2.2x100_1x150dt                     2x 100lbs. + 1x 150gal. Droptank
F8F-2.2x250                             2x 250lbs. Bombs
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvargp                    2x 250lbs. + 4x HVAR
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvarap                    2x 250lbs. + 4x HVAR AP
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvargp1x150dt             2x 250lbs. + 4x HVAR + 1x 150gal. DT
F8F-2.2x250_4xhvarap1x150dt             2x 250lbs. + 4x HVAR AP + 1x 150gal. DT
F8F-2.2x250_1x150dt                     2x 250lbs. + 1x 150gal. Droptank
F8F-2.1x500                             1x 500lbs. Bomb
F8F-2.1x500_4xhvargp                    1x 500lbs. + 4x HVAR
F8F-2.1x500_4xhvarap                    1x 500lbs. + 4x HVAR AP
F8F-2.2x500                             2x 500lbs. Bombs
F8F-2.2x500_4xhvargp                    2x 500lbs. + 4x HVAR
F8F-2.2x500_4xhvarap                    2x 500lbs. + 4x HVAR AP
F8F-2.2x500_1x150dt                     2x 500lbs. + 1x 150gal. Droptank
F8F-2.1x1000                            1x 1000lbs. Bomb
F8F-2.1x1000_4xhvargp                   1x 1000lbs. + 4x HVAR
F8F-2.1x1000_4xhvarap                   1x 1000lbs. + 4x HVAR AP
F8F-2.1x150dt                           1x 150gal. Droptank
F8F-2.none                              Empty
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 30, 2011, 03:48:40 AM
Thx dFrog:D

I finished upload MOD.
Please download from follow site.

 Normal Version:
https://www.mediafire.com/?kd65unapg6mbmv2

 Racer Version:(Spinner & Tail Visible)
https://www.mediafire.com/?48dbd9phm8ee7zq
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 30, 2011, 03:58:15 AM
Sorry,I can't understand  mean of this movie. :'(
Neither do I ...
May be a mistake in the link ...

Thank you for providing 2 different versions.
Can these two ones be used simultaneously in the game ?
I ask this question beacause the air.ini additional line is the same for both version.
I suppose that it is necessary to choose one version before launching IL2.
Is that correct ?

2 different version MOD is same java class.
And, We can't use both version same time.
but We can use F8F-2 and F8F-2(Multi1) shape different.

I will consider indipendent racer MOD of F8F. :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Narvik on October 30, 2011, 05:48:53 AM
Was anybody able to run "Normal" version of F8F on DBW 1.6? I tried but couldn't even start the game (got CTD before appearance of loading screen). I thought it was a result of "too many planes above DBW" issue but instantly after that I deleted F8F and installed several aircraft (Spit-19 CRP, P-47N, Ten's Judy beta) instead and the game runs fine. :(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 30, 2011, 12:27:24 PM
Hello,
Some more "wip" skin for Gerd's new model

(http://www.zargos-skins.net/images/post_skin/f8f-wip-21.jpg)

(http://www.zargos-skins.net/images/post_skin/f8f-wip-22.jpg)

Sorry, this skin is not available because there is many small details to deal with ...

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Anatoli on October 30, 2011, 01:25:13 PM
Terrific (as usually...  ;)  ) !!!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on October 30, 2011, 01:43:34 PM
you should throw that skin away... its shitty.

put it in an email and send it to me. i will take care of it and delete it, no problem.
no, better even. it is so ugly, it has to be deleted multiple times. please put it on some mediafire place, so the entire SAS community can download and cut, burn, explode, dissect destroy and delete it.

trust me.
 8)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Birdman on October 30, 2011, 01:59:57 PM
OK, I've now happily test flown this great plane and she is really good, thank you!

However, I've noticed two small issues that could be fixed in next version:
- Damaged left elevator doesn't move. This can be fixed by changing its parent to the moving D0 elevator and editing position accordingly like it is correctly done for all other control surfaces.
- UP3 and DBW has real 100 lbs bombs available, so for UP3/DBW version it is recommended to use them instead of those FAB 50 bombs.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: gianluca on October 30, 2011, 02:45:44 PM
A propos weapons... should it feasible to have napalm load? it was the most common one (and effective...) used in the Indochine 50-54 confilict, the sole one where the Bearcat saw action!
Anyway Gerd you did a wonderfue job indeed!
My best regards,
gianluca
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 30, 2011, 09:23:09 PM
OK, I've now happily test flown this great plane and she is really good, thank you!

However, I've noticed two small issues that could be fixed in next version:
- Damaged left elevator doesn't move. This can be fixed by changing its parent to the moving D0 elevator and editing position accordingly like it is correctly done for all other control surfaces.

I understood. Correcting it  is very easy.

Quote
- UP3 and DBW has real 100 lbs bombs available, so for UP3/DBW version it is recommended to use them instead of those FAB 50 bombs.

I don't know DBW(MOD?). Are there 100Ibs & 50Ibs bombs another java classes in UP3 and DBW?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 30, 2011, 09:33:36 PM
Was napalm bomb MOD developped by other modder?
Please tell me information.


A propos weapons... should it feasible to have napalm load? it was the most common one (and effective...) used in the Indochine 50-54 confilict, the sole one where the Bearcat saw action!
Anyway Gerd you did a wonderfue job indeed!
My best regards,
gianluca
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on October 31, 2011, 02:59:33 AM
you should throw that skin away... its shitty.

put it in an email and send it to me. i will take care of it and delete it, no problem.
no, better even. it is so ugly, it has to be deleted multiple times. please put it on some mediafire place, so the entire SAS community can download and cut, burn, explode, dissect destroy and delete it.

trust me.
 8)

Hundertz, that's uncalled for, mate - i don't recall seeing any skins from you, and he has also said that it's a wip - if you don't like it, fine, but keep the negativity to yourself, where it'll start festering and eventually make your head explode, or something.
please don't put down other's work in the open forums.
i think we've discussed this before, and i'd rather not be repeating myself with these matters.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on October 31, 2011, 03:23:22 AM
I believe he was kidding.....
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on October 31, 2011, 03:49:24 AM
...Like with F-14As using Iris-Ts? :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: BT~Tarik on October 31, 2011, 04:17:32 AM
you should throw that skin away... its shitty.

put it in an email and send it to me. i will take care of it and delete it, no problem.
no, better even. it is so ugly, it has to be deleted multiple times. please put it on some mediafire place, so the entire SAS community can download and cut, burn, explode, dissect destroy and delete it.

trust me.
 8)

Hundertz, that's uncalled for, mate - i don't recall seeing any skins from you, and he has also said that it's a wip - if you don't like it, fine, but keep the negativity to yourself, where it'll start festering and eventually make your head explode, or something.
please don't put down other's work in the open forums.
i think we've discussed this before, and i'd rather not be repeating myself with these matters.


Malone I think you misunderstood him   :D  I think he rather wanted Zargos to share the skin, but he said in an ironic way ^^ I don't think if he wanted him to really delete the skin he'd have said this :
Quote
it has to be deleted multiple times. please put it on some mediafire place, so the entire SAS community can download
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on October 31, 2011, 04:24:25 AM
I think milantarik is correct  ;)..btw however, I always had a faible for blue/red skins, so this one looks like it can be a nice addition.
Cheers

Tom
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on October 31, 2011, 04:49:41 AM
milantrik +1

;)

actually i like what i saw... the red and white stripes give it a "Racer" style, yet the navy blue makes it clear that this is a combat aircraft.
so... this skin is a "pimp my Bearcat" skin in my book. brings out the speed of the beast if you know what i mean.

and just wanted a way to get my hands on it.

*XXL grin*

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: RealDarko on October 31, 2011, 04:52:33 AM
Is a template for this plane available somewhere??
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: LuseKofte on October 31, 2011, 05:24:34 AM
I believe he was kidding.....

Maby it is but it is no way the recipiant can know that . Malones note of this is well called for. A contributor to IL 2 society should be most welcomed and not be excluded like that. I second Malones statement and ask HundertzehnGustav to think a bit before he write next time
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: gianluca on October 31, 2011, 05:28:01 AM
maybe Epervier will do a stationary for this beauty....
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on October 31, 2011, 08:37:20 AM
for chrissakes...
i wrote that up twice, it took me like five minutes to get that thing built up.
using a " 8)" seems not to have helped clarify my true feelings towards the painters work.

i shall use the [humor]...[/humor] marks or invent the [irony][/irony] tags.

:(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 31, 2011, 09:43:20 AM
Well, all the skins I introduced in this thread will soon be available.
Gerd is now "fine tuning" the UV mapping in order to get a easy skinnable plane.
Once the UV mapping is finished, I will upload a template and some skins.

By the way, the F8F skin I've introduced is the plane of Commander H.E Cook, leader of the 19th Air Group abord Boxer carrier in 1948.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: LuseKofte on October 31, 2011, 09:53:24 AM
Thank you Zargos, Thank you for your work  :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duffys tavern on October 31, 2011, 10:26:29 AM
Skin looks great!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 31, 2011, 11:37:20 AM
After all there is no reason to make you waiting.
I've juste uploaded a small pack with a template and 3 skins ( 2 US and 1 French).
They only work with the latest version of Gerd's mod.
Of course they are WIP thus weathering and paint chipping are not completely finished for some of them.
And some details will certainly change when Gerd has finished the UV mapping.
But you can already test them and report any bug you can see.

Download here (http://www.zargos-skins.net/skins-il2/templates/zsf-f8F-wip.rar).

PS :
Thank you for your comments and support.
And don't forget Gerd who deserves much more than I do.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 31, 2011, 11:39:38 AM
Dear Skinners.
Sorry I change UV mapping again. :'(
This UV mapping changing purpose is Skinner can easy nose number texturing. :D

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img685/1594/uvmappinginfo.jpg)

I am creating a template that can understand  UV mapping position of the antenna wire and inner canopy and inner cowl etc.

Please wait next version.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 31, 2011, 11:45:41 AM
Thank you Gerd.
Eventually the distortion on the engine coiling is quite light although present.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duffys tavern on October 31, 2011, 11:55:34 AM
Thanx alot for the swell skins.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: LuseKofte on October 31, 2011, 12:53:44 PM
After all there is no reason to make you waiting.
I've juste uploaded a small pack with a template and 3 skins ( 2 US and 1 French).
They only work with the latest version of Gerd's mod.
Of course they are WIP thus weathering and paint chipping are not completely finished for some of them.
And some details will certainly change when Gerd has finished the UV mapping.
But you can already test them and report any bug you can see.

Download here (http://www.zargos-skins.net/skins-il2/templates/zsf-f8F-wip.rar).

PS :
Thank you for your comments and support.
And don't forget Gerd who deserves much more than I do.

Please post this also in Skinsection so it is preserved for later use also
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on October 31, 2011, 01:21:11 PM
Please post this also in Skinsection so it is preserved for later use also

That's done !
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Birdman on October 31, 2011, 04:58:14 PM
I'm starting to enjoy flying this plane more and more, and I noticed two small and easy to fix bugs:
- WingRIn_D1.msh doesn't have shadow.
- Some _Clip hook is placed too low below CF so that plane floats in air after belly landing.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 31, 2011, 09:52:20 PM
I'm starting to enjoy flying this plane more and more, and I noticed two small and easy to fix bugs:
- WingRIn_D1.msh doesn't have shadow.
- Some _Clip hook is placed too low below CF so that plane floats in air after belly landing.

Thx you. :D
I will correct these bugs at next version.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: gianluca on November 01, 2011, 05:23:39 AM
quote from Gerd

""""Was napalm bomb MOD developped by other modder?
Please tell me information""""

Hi Gerd, Napalm mod as an effect exists since quite a long time at SAS: you can find two examples looking in:
Visual/Effects/Napalm v2 (by panzer1b)
and here:
Effects/UPDATE 3 IL-2 1946 Plutonium Max Effect v1 mod

Gianluca
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 02, 2011, 05:37:31 PM
Please post this also in Skinsection so it is preserved for later use also

That's done !

Thread Link  :D
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,19383.0.html (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,19383.0.html)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: farang65 on November 03, 2011, 04:52:01 AM
Really enjoyed flying the non damage initial model.  ;D :D

Looking forward to the ultimate deal   :D ;)

Truly the ultimate Thai Fighter   ;D

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww3/f/802/69/0#16

Many colouful profiles

Kirby
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: woofiedog on November 03, 2011, 05:37:06 AM
Great ride and update... Thank's!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 03, 2011, 10:51:35 PM
New Version Released! :D
https://www.mediafire.com/?z6ytmtsyo8blwr7

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on November 04, 2011, 01:43:21 AM
Thanks Gerd.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Malone on November 04, 2011, 02:12:48 AM
yes, thanks for the new version, getting better every time! ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: cgagan on November 04, 2011, 02:19:53 AM
Many thanks, Gerd! 8)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on November 04, 2011, 02:50:32 AM
yes, thanks for the new version, getting better every time! ;)
And more "flexible" to skin as well !
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 04, 2011, 02:58:57 AM
Sorry. I  found bug cockpit UV mapping.  :'(
I released patch.
https://www.mediafire.com/?gb8scbva9p3rbc2
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on November 04, 2011, 03:50:33 AM
Don't worry ...
Changes are really very easy to handle for skiners.
;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 05, 2011, 12:57:51 PM
I developing Instrument Panel. :P
I think cockpit developing is long war..  :'(
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on November 05, 2011, 02:07:28 PM
Hi Gerd,
Maybe you can get some help from Claymore (@ Check-Six).
He performed a impressive work on re-modeling FW190 pannels.
He might be able to give you some valuable hints.
Hold on !
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 06, 2011, 06:11:33 AM
Thank you.
I know Claymore:D
If I have question then I ask him.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: C6_Claymore on November 06, 2011, 07:22:15 AM
No problem Gerd, don't be shy ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on November 06, 2011, 03:01:51 PM
Thanks again Gerd! This is one of the 'sexiest' prop planes ever.

Tom
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 07, 2011, 04:43:44 AM
Thank you.
My motivation is born by rooter and praise. :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: BP_dFrog on November 07, 2011, 11:08:24 AM
Just a minor thing.

F8F-2.1x1000_4xhvargp - this loadout option is listed 2x in menu
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 07, 2011, 12:52:11 PM
Just a minor thing.

F8F-2.1x1000_4xhvargp - this loadout option is listed 2x in menu

Thx bug report. ;)
I confirmed it.
I will correct bug at next version.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 09, 2011, 09:30:03 AM
Armament Test

110GalNapalm
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img64/8526/110gal.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img190/434/110galtest1.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img249/4374/110galtest2.jpg)


75GalNapalm Tye1
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img856/4296/75gal.jpg)

75GalNapalm Type2
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img403/8412/75gal2.jpg)

100lbs
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img683/8629/100lbs.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: gianluca on November 09, 2011, 09:31:52 AM
great!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Silverback on November 09, 2011, 10:30:37 AM
Can this excellent aircraft also be armed with a pair of Tiny Tim rockets?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: mario71 on November 09, 2011, 02:57:23 PM
Awsome.

Great quality...

 :D

Mario

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 10, 2011, 08:15:21 AM
Can this excellent aircraft also be armed with a pair of Tiny Tim rockets?

I can do it. :D

Who permission need when I using this arming ? HaDeS & Zorin?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on November 10, 2011, 09:44:27 PM
Not to sound like a rivet counter here, but I doubt very seriously if the Bearcat ever carried the Tiny Tim rockets, or even could for that matter.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: S3231541 on November 11, 2011, 01:15:49 AM
Not to sound like a rivet counter here, but I doubt very seriously if the Bearcat ever carried the Tiny Tim rockets, or even could for that matter.
;D

Well, just put a couple on and see if they can take off  :P. If they can then there you go. It's there but you don't have to use it
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 11, 2011, 07:47:51 AM
Tiny tim name is tiny but too big... :'(
Tiny tim fin touch F8F's Wings..
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Silverback on November 11, 2011, 11:41:17 AM
Sorry I can't find any proof (pictures) that the F8F was ever armed with the Tiny Tim either. But I'll keep looking. Thanks for your hard work.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Whiskey_Sierra_972 on November 11, 2011, 02:30:03 PM
Something like this:

(http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt222/waltersolito/F8FTinyTim.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 12, 2011, 02:28:11 AM
Thx fly! :D

I look forward to release this skin.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on November 12, 2011, 04:41:17 AM
Something like this:

(http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt222/waltersolito/F8FTinyTim.jpg)

LOL! I stand corrected.  :-[
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on November 12, 2011, 04:53:37 AM
But THAT picture brings me to an interesting question:
if the Bearcat did carry tiny tims, what is wrong with Gerds combination?

Is the Game's Tiny tim too big?
Or is Gerd' s Pylon too small?
A combination of both?

Ah, thats an interesting question, isnt' it?
:)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 12, 2011, 06:15:13 AM
But THAT picture brings me to an interesting question:
if the Bearcat did carry tiny tims, what is wrong with Gerds combination?

Is the Game's Tiny tim too big?
Or is Gerd' s Pylon too small?
A combination of both?

Ah, thats an interesting question, isnt' it?
:)

I try arming Tiny Tim at bombs hook.
But, Rockets hook is facing up the little  :D

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on November 12, 2011, 09:33:44 AM
maybe there was a special adapter, between pylon and rocket...... ?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: mac1 on November 12, 2011, 01:11:52 PM
or perhaps a completely different pylon, which isn't that unlikely either. I love the research and historical photos and such that comes out of projects. SAS1946 the book should be coming out next year :P
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: WWSandMan on November 13, 2011, 11:56:33 AM
S!

Thanks for a wonderful beta project! I've always had a special affection for the F8F, and this model (plus the great skins created for it!) really brings it alive for me. Thanks!

Some images to show that I like the Bearcat .... (click each thumbnail for a full-sized 1680x1050 .png screenshot)

(http://www.wingwalkers.org/vault/sandman/images/f8f_bearcat_mod/f8f-2_cockpit_sm.jpg) (http://www.wingwalkers.org/vault/sandman/images/f8f_bearcat_mod/f8f-2_cockpit_lg.png)
The current cockpit of the F8F-2 ... Perhaps not complete, but certainly functional

(http://www.wingwalkers.org/vault/sandman/images/f8f_bearcat_mod/f8f-2_front_view_sm.jpg) (http://www.wingwalkers.org/vault/sandman/images/f8f_bearcat_mod/f8f-2_front_view_lg.png)
The engine modeling is outstanding!

(http://www.wingwalkers.org/vault/sandman/images/f8f_bearcat_mod/f8f-2_shotup_sm.jpg) (http://www.wingwalkers.org/vault/sandman/images/f8f_bearcat_mod/f8f-2_shotup_lg.png)
Even shot up (and wearing custom skin and nose art), the Bearcat looks dangerous!

~~~

I got the F8F-2 Bearcat beta flying under UP3.0 RC4, by adding a new mod folder with all the files (and using the latest online buttons from SAS) within JSGME. I enable UP3RC4 in JSGME first, then enable the F8F-2 mod's folder within JSGME. Works slick as anything for single-player, but is almost certainly not online (crt=2) compatible. To go back to standard UP3RC4, simply remove the F8F entry from the activated mods in JSGME.

If anyone wants to see how I've made it work, please PM me or send me an email ( wwsandman at wingwalkers dot org ) and I'll send you a link to the package, zipped up and ready for extraction to the JSGMEMODS folder.


Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Spinnetti on November 13, 2011, 12:08:36 PM
Wow.. Great work. I don't actually like the real plane, but I do very much like your model!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 13, 2011, 08:27:25 PM
Dear WWSandMan.
Thank you for your comment of impression.
I am recreating the F8F cockpit.
Please look forward to and wait it.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 16, 2011, 09:40:40 AM
Something like this:

(http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt222/waltersolito/F8FTinyTim.jpg)

I am adjusting Tiny Tim Rockets HOOK positions. :D
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img836/2364/tinytimland.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img593/9041/tinytimarmingsmall.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img833/3416/tinytimfire.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on November 16, 2011, 09:42:22 AM
you killed maverickkkkkk!!!
:D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on November 16, 2011, 10:00:38 AM
..  :D
Great stuff!

Look forward to anything related to this bird (especially pit). To me the only prop bird next to the P-51 and the P-38s that gets me hooked.
I don't know much about 3D creations but I do know it is a lot of work requiring a bunch of patience and talent. Respect! A little Porsche it is. :D :)

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: [URU]Mustang on November 16, 2011, 10:02:45 AM
you killed maverickkkkkk!!!
:D
JJAJAJAJAAJ! xD
Are ou building a F-14 too?
Cheers
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 16, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
If you expected this drone then I'm sorry.
This drone is rental from HAWX.
I can't wait Mirage's F14 and, I do it.
But,I look forward to his working. :D

Please give me more screen shot of his F14!!! :'(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 19, 2011, 11:44:02 PM
Newest Screen Shot. :P
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img266/5936/droptank.jpg)
I refine 3D model of fuel tank as same grade 3D model of napalm.

If skinner want template of DT then I will distribute it. :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 20, 2011, 01:32:51 AM
Is this picture F8F's Napalm?  ???
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)
I must develop new F8F's Napalrm?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: gianluca on November 20, 2011, 05:07:38 AM
the ones you did are already ok Gerd!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on November 20, 2011, 06:14:09 AM
dont need no stinking new napalm containers...
just take the BIG P-38 droptanks and put a LOT of Napalm in them :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 23, 2011, 02:33:09 AM
New Screen Shot. :D

Before
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img266/5936/droptank.jpg)

After
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img535/6523/pylon1.jpg)

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img855/5880/pylon2.jpg)

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Silverback on November 23, 2011, 08:28:02 PM
Man that's some great detail work. Just two questions. How is the fuel transferred from the DT to the aircraft? To be more precise where do the fuel lines connect?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 23, 2011, 09:59:38 PM
Please picture for  fuel line of F8F's DT. :'(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Silverback on November 24, 2011, 11:17:45 AM
Sorry man I can't find a decent picture of a F8F drop tank installation. The best I could find looks like a 2 inch line centered just aft of the forward mounting point on center line of the tank and just aft of that is a smaller maybe electrical connection (maybe for a fuel level sending unit). It is not a good picture.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on November 24, 2011, 04:30:32 PM
look    at    those   cylinders !!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 26, 2011, 12:48:40 AM
Sorry man I can't find a decent picture of a F8F drop tank installation. The best I could find looks like a 2 inch line centered just aft of the forward mounting point on center line of the tank and just aft of that is a smaller maybe electrical connection (maybe for a fuel level sending unit). It is not a good picture.


Don't worry :D
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img705/3267/picfueltank.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img94/7813/sc1d.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img3/6443/sc2e.jpg)
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img163/3985/sc3b.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Silverback on November 26, 2011, 01:31:35 AM
That's the same picture I was looking at but for some reason my resolution wasn't so good (Pensacola NAS). Now you have the best drop tank in IL-2 1946 and possibly the best airplane, great work.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Messcaster on November 26, 2011, 03:05:35 AM
It's realy a beautiful plane :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on November 26, 2011, 03:31:54 AM
i wonder:
what about the blue color on the droptank, in the center between the attachments?
i like the effect, but how does it get there - reflection?
 compare that to the default LaGG-3 80 litres droptank and i go "woooow"
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on November 26, 2011, 05:58:17 AM
i wonder:
what about the blue color on the droptank, in the center between the attachments?
i like the effect, but how does it get there - reflection?
 compare that to the default LaGG-3 80 litres droptank and i go "woooow"

This reflection is paint of skin ;)

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img197/7613/skinqh.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on November 26, 2011, 08:30:13 AM
wow man, thats a lot of polygones for a single droptank.
 good idea about the paint, the illusion is perfect!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 02, 2011, 08:48:11 PM
Correct part of near Armor Plate(But skin unmodified)
(http://s1-03.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/462588951.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on December 03, 2011, 02:25:07 AM
Cool !
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 04, 2011, 05:38:48 AM
Cool !

Thx UF_Zargos :D

I am refining meter panel now.
(http://s1-03.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/463967166.jpg)
(http://s1-04.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/463967851.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: ReiSen on December 04, 2011, 05:44:04 AM
super!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 04, 2011, 08:48:13 AM
Color modified. ;)
(http://s1-02.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/464115296.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Metatron on December 04, 2011, 04:53:39 PM
We love you Gerd. <3
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on December 04, 2011, 11:53:06 PM
It's getting better and better.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duckie on December 05, 2011, 08:19:52 AM
Gerd,
Just amazing work on this, has to be the best FM in IL2.
Have been flying it, and just makes me chuckle everytime i takeoff in it.
you keep outdoing yourself, ~S~ to you for all your hard work.  ;D
daduck
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: mexchiwa on December 06, 2011, 11:02:45 AM
Awesome mod - did some race skins for it at M4T.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: sluggs on December 06, 2011, 11:02:02 PM
I'm in love with this beast. I was just speaking about the under-performing America aircraft in another thread, yet this thing chews through Zeros like it's nothing.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on December 07, 2011, 02:43:29 PM
I'm in love with this beast. I was just speaking about the under-performing America aircraft in another thread, yet this thing chews through Zeros like it's nothing.


It's almost a killer rabbit. :D ;D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 09, 2011, 07:54:58 PM
I'm retouching compass now ;)
(http://s1-05.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/468912379.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKBdrhgHeYA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKBdrhgHeYA)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on December 10, 2011, 07:10:49 AM
Just ... amazing !
The light effect on instrument is so realistic !
Thank you Gerd.
I'm looking forward to having this mod available !
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 14, 2011, 08:51:00 AM
New Screen Shot  :P
(http://s1-02.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/472344991.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: ReiSen on December 14, 2011, 09:38:20 AM
Gerd, you the best!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: ANDYTOTHED on December 14, 2011, 10:21:44 AM
is that an Fg-2 super corsair?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: IKolincak on December 14, 2011, 12:08:21 PM
I think it is F2G-2 Super Corsair.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Silverback on December 14, 2011, 12:22:54 PM
That's some great stuff Gerd. I like the F-14 in the vid also.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on December 14, 2011, 02:49:09 PM
I think I just wet myself!!  :P
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on December 14, 2011, 03:06:52 PM
I think I just wet myself!!  :P

I'm with Razor..............
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Cranky.1 on December 14, 2011, 11:28:15 PM
I was going to make a Request for a F2G Super Corsair 
(http://www.hyperscale.com/2007/features/images/HSF2G-Garcia-021.jpg)
I don't have to now  :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: No5_Studly on December 17, 2011, 04:43:28 PM
Great work Gerd
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 18, 2011, 03:37:55 AM
New screen shot. :D
(http://s1-04.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/475193980.jpg)

Who want to get MOD of conquest 1?

Canopy patch.
https://www.mediafire.com/download.php?qvailt98dp7jm9k
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: ReiSen on December 18, 2011, 03:54:44 AM
Super!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: gianluca on December 20, 2011, 05:33:44 PM
hi Gerd! first of all my compliments for your outstanding work which I am following from the very first post!
Installed the canopy patch today but if I put the two files in 3do/plane/F8F-2 only, I get no modification in the "Conquest"canopy and if I put them in 3do/F8F-2 Multi I get an empty screen in QMB....
did I something wrong?
best regards,
Gianluca
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 21, 2011, 10:38:27 AM
hi Gerd! first of all my compliments for your outstanding work which I am following from the very first post!
Installed the canopy patch today but if I put the two files in 3do/plane/F8F-2 only, I get no modification in the "Conquest"canopy and if I put them in 3do/F8F-2 Multi I get an empty screen in QMB....
did I something wrong?
best regards,
Gianluca

This patch will modify F8F-2Racer only.

If you choice F8F-2Racer then F8F-2Racer have a small canopy .
In Other case F8F-2 have a canopy normal. ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: gianluca on December 21, 2011, 05:01:48 PM
hi Gerd, thks for answering!
I know this mod only influence the racer versioin, my problem is that I get no canopy modification at all! Can you tell me where do I have to put these two files? As I said if I put them only in 3do/plane/F8F-2 folder I get no modification and if I put them in both folder I have in "plane" then the aircraft does not show at all in QMB!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 22, 2011, 07:02:24 AM
Very cool skin! :D
GJ Rock!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 22, 2011, 07:07:50 AM
hi Gerd, thks for answering!
I know this mod only influence the racer versioin, my problem is that I get no canopy modification at all! Can you tell me where do I have to put these two files? As I said if I put them only in 3do/plane/F8F-2 folder I get no modification and if I put them in both folder I have in "plane" then the aircraft does not show at all in QMB!

Please over write 3do/plane/F8F-2/racer_hier.him and CockpitC1_D0.msh.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on December 22, 2011, 03:55:37 PM
Don't wanna hijack your thread, But I get the racer working :)

(http://www.virtual-horsemen.com/images/2.png)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 22, 2011, 05:00:00 PM
This Skin is also great. :D
I look forward to completion.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: western0221 on December 23, 2011, 07:20:01 AM
Hi.

I try Gerd's F8F flying in DBW1.6, but I can't.
DBW crash at LOADING:70%.

When I install F8F beta0.3 into SASModAct3.0.6.
No problem.
I can fly and battle on F8F.

Anyone knows which way to solve DBW 70%CTD problem.
Or... never able on DBW?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 23, 2011, 07:50:28 AM
I'm sorry.
I am busy by real work. So DBW survey starting is  late. :'(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: BT~Tarik on December 23, 2011, 08:20:39 AM
Hi.

I try Gerd's F8F flying in DBW1.6, but I can't.
DBW crash at LOADING:70%.

When I install F8F beta0.3 into SASModAct3.0.6.
No problem.
I can fly and battle on F8F.

Anyone knows which way to solve DBW 70%CTD problem.
Or... never able on DBW?

For me it works fine in DBW 1.6
Try to disable some other Mod planes you don't use, maybe you have hit the java limit.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: western0221 on December 23, 2011, 08:42:19 AM
OK.

In changing DBW functions enable/disable at JSGME,
I find F8F class files conflict with DBW AI MOD(Beta).

When disable DBW AI MOD, F8F can be played in DBW.

But I need DBW AI MOD in DBW, to enable Carrier Take-off and Catapult... I can't disable it.
I will fly F8F in other environments.

When I will have spare time to check class files, I may correct this conflict inside F8F MOD.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: ANDYTOTHED on December 23, 2011, 09:41:11 AM
a 70% CTd is usually caused by something you messed up in the objects such as ships or vehicles
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: gianluca on December 23, 2011, 10:30:28 AM


Please over write 3do/plane/F8F-2/racer_hier.him and CockpitC1_D0.msh.

hi Gerd, I do have in my 3do/plane/F8F-2 a racer_hier.him to overwrite but no CockpitC1_D0.msh at all.
I have beta v3 patched and I downloaded all and assembled two or three times and this file I cannot find.....
everythins is working fine except this modification, I really do not know why!

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: BT~Tarik on December 23, 2011, 01:57:34 PM
OK.

In changing DBW functions enable/disable at JSGME,
I find F8F class files conflict with DBW AI MOD(Beta).

When disable DBW AI MOD, F8F can be played in DBW.

But I need DBW AI MOD in DBW, to enable Carrier Take-off and Catapult... I can't disable it.
I will fly F8F in other environments.

When I will have spare time to check class files, I may correct this conflict inside F8F MOD.

strange because I also enabled DBW AI Mod, and F8F worked.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Birdman on December 23, 2011, 02:39:17 PM
I also don't see any common classfiles with any DBW AI mod version and I too have both enabled and I can fly F8F without issues.

Thus my theory for the AI mod conflict is that there may just be a bit too many planes (and/or other mods adding more java code) installed to get a crash caused by the java code memory limit. AI mod is one of those mods adding more java code, and thus activating it may get you above the java code memory limit while without AI mod you can still be below limit and have stable IL-2. To test this theory you'll just have to disable some mods that add more java code and check whether you can have both F8F and AI mod simply by disabling something else.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: western0221 on December 24, 2011, 05:53:58 AM
Umm... my DBW1.6 folder doesn't have such many MODs or class files...

Not only F8F.
F-51Seahorse(in other topic I was introduced from Milantarik) has the same problem.
With DBW AI MOD 70%CTD, but error log shows nothing bad, recording is stopping at a strange point.


My #DBW folder is...

Crusader_pack
L-39C
OV
PA-48 Enforcer-CRP
T-33
TF9J

ColossusCVFamily
USSEssexCV_ead_SCB125(4.10)
USSEssexCVs_SCB125

These 9 MODs only.
Others... DBW JSGME ones are 00_6dof for TrackIR, MapMods, SAS_ Ecran_Wide_4101, SAS_SmallFX_Collection, VTD AIMOD BETA.
And at disable VTD AIMOD BETA, then F8F and F-51 fly well. :-\

IL2Selector setting is NOT Expert Mode.
RAM usage 1024MB.
6DOF Track IR enable.
only this.

I also compared F8F's class files with DBW AI MOD class files.
They seem nothing conflict. I have no idea.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Birdman on December 24, 2011, 06:33:25 AM
Maybe some of those mods have surprisingly big classfiles since the size of classfiles actually matters instead of number. Anyway, you can just try to comment some air.ini entries for those additional planes and disable their mod folders temporarily to test whether you can fix F8F and F-51Seahorse by disabling others.

BTW, have you looked for possible conflicts with those FreeIL2modding mods and SAS AI mod? I haven't tested them and it is also possible that there is some conflict that just breaks some references for carrier planes and thus those two carrier planes don't work.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 24, 2011, 07:54:41 AM


Please over write 3do/plane/F8F-2/racer_hier.him and CockpitC1_D0.msh.

hi Gerd, I do have in my 3do/plane/F8F-2 a racer_hier.him to overwrite but no CockpitC1_D0.msh at all.
I have beta v3 patched and I downloaded all and assembled two or three times and this file I cannot find.....
everythins is working fine except this modification, I really do not know why!

Sorry
CockpitC1_D0.ms is not include in 3do/plane/F8F-2.
Please copy to under 3do/plane/F8F-2 folder.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: gianluca on December 24, 2011, 08:23:32 AM
hi Gerd, that is exactly what I did from the very beginning and had no luck with the canopy modification.
could be the patch the problem? there I see another Cockpit_D0.msh so maybe there is interference....
please note that I tried to have this canopy modification working in two different installs (but both 409 UP201) on two different computers but had no luck at all unfortunately.
best regards,
Gianluca
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Rock on December 25, 2011, 02:52:51 AM
hi Gerd, that is exactly what I did from the very beginning and had no luck with the canopy modification.
could be the patch the problem? there I see another Cockpit_D0.msh so maybe there is interference....
please note that I tried to have this canopy modification working in two different installs (but both 409 UP201) on two different computers but had no luck at all unfortunately.
best regards,
Gianluca

Hi Gerd,

There is a problem with the racer him file, I had to modify the Hier.him file from the previous version to get it to work correctly for me
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on December 25, 2011, 09:17:04 AM
hi Gerd, that is exactly what I did from the very beginning and had no luck with the canopy modification.
could be the patch the problem? there I see another Cockpit_D0.msh so maybe there is interference....
please note that I tried to have this canopy modification working in two different installs (but both 409 UP201) on two different computers but had no luck at all unfortunately.
best regards,
Gianluca

Hi Gerd,

There is a problem with the racer him file, I had to modify the Hier.him file from the previous version to get it to work correctly for me

Thx Rock.
I will fix this problem after real work finished.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: .50calBMG on January 14, 2012, 03:46:41 PM
Im guessing this wont work on DBW :(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: ANDYTOTHED on January 15, 2012, 03:56:21 PM
it works perfectly on DBW 1.6, I have only just made a whole new reinstall for 4.11
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: .50calBMG on January 16, 2012, 03:18:04 PM
will it work on DBW 1.1?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: The_Alaska_Man on January 16, 2012, 06:35:31 PM
will it work on DBW 1.1?

Install it and find out  ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on January 18, 2012, 06:15:30 AM
Do you like this plane? :D
(http://s1-02.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/497219180.jpg)
(http://s1-01.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/497214093.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on January 18, 2012, 06:19:32 AM
Undoubtly YESSSS !
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: snoopy on January 18, 2012, 08:25:24 AM
OOOOOHHHHHHHHHH YESSSSSSSSSSSS !  WE LIKE IT!!!!! :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Thunda on January 18, 2012, 08:37:42 AM
MMmmmmmm......Aaaaahhhhh......OOOooooooohhh!!!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Tom2 on January 18, 2012, 09:24:32 AM
Klonk! :D ;D :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: duckie on January 18, 2012, 11:00:47 PM
Hi Gerd.
have been flying the F8F-2 since you put it out its just an outstanding fm.
one question are  the two gauges on right side of cockpit going to be for fuel gauges, and seems needles of altimeter get lost as they get to bottom of gauge.
  ~S~
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SloppyJoe on January 21, 2012, 12:17:38 PM
This is great, Gerd! Thanks so much!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Far77 on February 12, 2012, 02:22:10 AM
Discovered in internet:
"Pilot's Handbook for Navy Models F8F-1, F8F-1B, F8F-1N, F8F-2, F8F-2N, F8F-2P Aircraft" (1949)
http://depositfiles.com/files/x34a5gja9

Not sure whether it was given already, but anyway I hope that it could be interesting for somebody.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: VF-51_Cobraj on February 13, 2012, 12:25:00 PM
Wrong post ;) thanks Razor :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on February 13, 2012, 01:07:35 PM
Wrong F8 CobraJ   ;)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on February 13, 2012, 02:02:47 PM
Discovered in internet:
"Pilot's Handbook for Navy Models F8F-1, F8F-1B, F8F-1N, F8F-2, F8F-2N, F8F-2P Aircraft" (1949)
http://depositfiles.com/files/x34a5gja9

Not sure whether it was given already, but anyway I hope that it could be interesting for somebody.

Thx Far77 ;)
Please introduce F8F article if there is also something else.

My books(and PDF) is as follow.
-Pilot's Handbook(AN 01-85FD-1)
-STANDAR AIRCRAFT CHARCTERISTIC F8F-2 "BEARCAT"
-F8F BEARCAT in action(Aricraft Number 99)
-FAMOUS ARIPLANES OF THE WORLD GRAMAN F7F/F8F BEARCAT no.94
-FAMOUS ARIPLANES OF THE WORLD GRAMAN F8F BEARCAT no.148

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Anatoli on March 19, 2012, 12:35:13 PM
Hello...   :)

Is there any news about this WIP ?  ;)

It has been a looooooooong time since the last post...

Cheers
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on March 20, 2012, 04:06:54 AM
Sorry to slow progress of developping F8F-2 MOD.
I am reading the  Pilot's Manual.
But,Following  question is difficult.
Is Fig.28 F8F-2's cockpit image ?. :'(

Fig.28 of  Pilot's Manual
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img703/3338/fig28.png)



Hello...   :)

Is there any news about this WIP ?  ;)

It has been a looooooooong time since the last post...

Cheers
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: crazyflak on March 20, 2012, 04:54:46 AM
I'll look for more later :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32902482@N07/6104700027/lightbox/

Is Fig.28 F8F-2's cockpit image ?. :'(

squadron & signals "in action" book (p30) says the cockpit is same for all variants but the nightfigthers. So the cockpit drawings must be the same for F8F1 & F8F2 and nightfigthers must be different because of radar screen addition.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Storebror on March 21, 2012, 01:57:55 AM
As much as I understand your image shows the "generic" layout of F8F cockpits except for the -1, -1B and -1N.
This is the same image again, but this one can be clicked for full size view:
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif) (https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

This refers to the differences in cockpit layout for the -1 and -1B:
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif) (https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

And this one last but not least covers the -1N:
(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif) (https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/dead/dead.gif)

Hope that helps...

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on March 21, 2012, 03:46:06 PM
Thank crazyflak. But, My question was written by Storebror. :D
Than Storebror. :D

I want more information of F8F-2 historical cockpit .
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: cromhunt on March 21, 2012, 04:50:21 PM
hello:)
do you know the FSX model of Bearcat?
(http://msourisofts.free.fr/newskins/bearcat01.jpg)
(http://msourisofts.free.fr/newskins/bearcat02.jpg)
(http://msourisofts.free.fr/newskins/bearcat03.jpg)
(http://msourisofts.free.fr/newskins/bearcat04.jpg)

Maybe his cockpit could be useful?
in case of you need it,PM me please
see you next:)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 08, 2012, 01:52:35 AM
Sorry my very late response.
Thx cromhunt.  :)
I had referenced to the F8F of FSX screenshot at first. However,I lookup not historical point.(meter layout and so on)

I am referencing to "Famous Airlanes Of The World" and Pilot Manual (Fig.28) now.

By the way,Who want viewing F8F's 3D model at iPhone?
If anyone want viewing then I will distribute F8F's  metasequoia 3D model.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtatmUCDVx4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtatmUCDVx4)
(MQOV is free :D)

hello:)
do you know the FSX model of Bearcat?
(http://msourisofts.free.fr/newskins/bearcat01.jpg)
(http://msourisofts.free.fr/newskins/bearcat02.jpg)
(http://msourisofts.free.fr/newskins/bearcat03.jpg)
(http://msourisofts.free.fr/newskins/bearcat04.jpg)

Maybe his cockpit could be useful?
in case of you need it,PM me please
see you next:)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: gianluca on April 08, 2012, 03:58:17 AM
hi Gerd, noticed in youtube that you have posted a video with a F8F vol 4,5... is this a more advanced version than the one available here? and could it be eventually made available?

thks for your beautiful work and best regards!

Gianluca
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on April 08, 2012, 08:46:48 AM
I have been gone a while and just saw this great plane had an update. I love this plane. One question though. Does anyone know how to change the default pilot from Japanese to American?

EDIT: Nevermind. I got it. I copied the Pilot1mat,Pilot_Do.msh and the PilotPipe_Do.msh from the F6F-6 folder I had in my mods and replaced them in the F8F-2 folder. If anyone else does this be sure to back up your F8F-2 folder just in case.:)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on April 10, 2012, 09:40:46 AM
Hi gianlucabagatti.

I already released MOD of "WIP IL2 F8F MOD Vol.4.5" version.
But, MOD of "WIP F8F Cockpit" is under construction. :D


Hi SAS~Bombsaway

I can't reproduce reported problem.
I will check the this problem at next version. ;)

(http://p.twimg.com/AruM9NrCIAALaB6.jpg:large)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: dietz on April 10, 2012, 10:05:45 AM
Hi gianlucabagatti.

I already released MOD of "WIP IL2 F8F MOD Vol.4.5" version.
But, MOD of "WIP F8F Cockpit" is under construction. :D


Hi SAS~Bombsaway

I can't reproduce reported problem.
I will check the this problem at next version. ;)

(https://p.twimg.com/AqIXFeECQAEk4aZ.jpg)
I just did a search for this version & somehow missed it...can you help.I love this plane - years ago I built a control line model of it...but yours is much more fun!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on May 02, 2012, 12:42:09 AM
I have tentatively stopped making skins for this bird.
But I keep an interrested eye on what happens here.
I'm glad the pit is on a good way !
Carry on Gerd !
If I can give a hand ... Just ask !
Cheers.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 02, 2012, 08:46:06 PM
I have tentatively stopped making skins for this bird.
But I keep an interrested eye on what happens here.
I'm glad the pit is on a good way !
Carry on Gerd !
If I can give a hand ... Just ask !
Cheers.

Thx UF_Zargos!!
When UV mapping is finished, I will ask for your cooperation. :D

(https://p.twimg.com/Ar8B9mKCQAE56oR.jpg:large)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 03, 2012, 09:45:54 AM
I am testing alpha cockpit now. :D
(https://p.twimg.com/Ar-0dz9CQAIggrI.jpg:large)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Roger Smith on May 03, 2012, 10:28:39 AM
cockpit? I'm staring at that F-14
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on May 03, 2012, 04:52:51 PM
LOL, I'll take the Bearcat over the Tomcat anyday.................... 

Default Field of view is extremely close in the cockpit we have now, is it possible to move it back a skosh?..like the one in the FSX screenie?............... I know you can fiddle with TIR and set it, but default would be good too. 
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Wildchild on May 03, 2012, 06:52:43 PM
That picture's not even remotely funny...  :P
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 03, 2012, 10:46:58 PM
LOL, I'll take the Bearcat over the Tomcat anyday.................... 

Default Field of view is extremely close in the cockpit we have now, is it possible to move it back a skosh?..like the one in the FSX screenie?............... I know you can fiddle with TIR and set it, but default would be good too.


I modified head position.
What do you think this position?

http://youtu.be/byTCJJOiKk4

(I can't release F14 because of  this F14 was imported from another flight simulation's 3d moel.)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Roger Smith on May 03, 2012, 10:55:28 PM
I can't release F14

My life just ended, it no longer has any meaning
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 03, 2012, 11:04:09 PM
I can't release F14

My life just ended, it no longer has any meaning

You will get ultimate Tomcat made by Mirage in future.
Mirage is 3D modeling specialist and Tomcat mania :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: hawker445 on May 03, 2012, 11:38:17 PM


(I can't release F14 because of  this F14 was imported from another flight simulation's 3d moel.)

???? WHy? It's working isn't it??
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: HundertzehnGustav on May 04, 2012, 04:20:29 AM
get a grip, man...
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 04, 2012, 04:26:13 AM


(I can't release F14 because of  this F14 was imported from another flight simulation's 3d moel.)

???? WHy? It's working isn't it??

It is very simple logic. ;)
We can develop MOD for other flight simulator as same as IL-2.
And,We can import 3d model to IL-2 from other flight simulator.
However, I can not distribute it.(This is my minimum rule) :-\
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: AG-51_Razor on May 04, 2012, 07:37:16 AM
Head position is great Gerd  :)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on May 04, 2012, 04:56:21 PM
Yes, that's a thousand times better, beautiful work, I know AG-51 is awaiting the final release of this bird with great anticipation.

Thanks Gerd.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 05, 2012, 10:07:06 AM
Please check following link. :P

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,10588.0.html
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on May 05, 2012, 11:13:48 AM
Very nice, love the new cockpit, gauges work much better than the previous version.............. and I'm a Tiny Tim fanatic, love those on the Corsairs, now they are on the F8F......

Looking forward to the final and polished Gerd, it looks like it's going to be one of the best additions yet.

Cheers

Hoss
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: NNFFLYLB on May 05, 2012, 11:22:29 AM
Thank a lot!
the supercharger is auto?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 05, 2012, 04:48:16 PM
Very nice, love the new cockpit, gauges work much better than the previous version.............. and I'm a Tiny Tim fanatic, love those on the Corsairs, now they are on the F8F......

Looking forward to the final and polished Gerd, it looks like it's going to be one of the best additions yet.

Cheers

Hoss

Thank you!!
I will polish this cockpit  :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 05, 2012, 04:51:02 PM
Thank a lot!
the supercharger is auto?

Yes.
F8F-2's super charger is automatic at this version.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 06, 2012, 12:06:27 AM
New version released!! ;)

Gerd'F8F-2 Beta Version0.4
-Cockpit refine(but alpha version)
-3D model refine
-Apend weapons

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,10588.0.html
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: farang65 on May 06, 2012, 12:13:48 AM
Double  :D :D and Triple WOW  ;) ;) ;) Gerd

Have always enjoyed flying this awesome aircraft.  ;) :)
Downloading now will definitely fly it tonight  :)

Again thanks for the great work on the recent additions  :D

Kirby
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: CWMV on May 06, 2012, 12:24:11 AM
Ive never been a fan of naval aircraft, but this thing rocks. It flies like a naval 190.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: UF_Zargos on May 06, 2012, 11:01:01 AM
Hello, here is a preview of a what-if F8F based on new Gerd's release ...

(http://www.zargos-skins.net/images/post_skin/f8f-wip-49.jpg)

PS :
Even it is an alpha version, the cockpit is already great !
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on May 06, 2012, 11:08:25 AM
Nice, using the Racer spinner............ I like the looks of the spinner cover.

As a AG-51 member I know we would be very excited to see VF-51 skins for this bird.

don't ever get bored Zargos!................. 
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: SAS~Bombsaway on May 06, 2012, 04:43:20 PM
Hi Gerd. Your version 3 worked in my 4.09 UP2.01 but version 4 crashes my game. Did you change the classfiles to 4.10?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 07, 2012, 09:24:22 AM
Hi Gerd. Your version 3 worked in my 4.09 UP2.01 but version 4 crashes my game. Did you change the classfiles to 4.10?

I'm sorry.
I have already been developed on the IL-2 4.10 based.
And My test environment is  IL-2 4.10.

IL-2 4.09 support is hard... :(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: gianluca on May 07, 2012, 09:40:15 AM
Epervier, please if you can!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: bomberkiller on May 07, 2012, 12:05:26 PM
Hallo Gerd,

thank you very much!!!

Regards, Gerhard
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: tfs_vindy on May 31, 2012, 11:41:27 PM

Hi Gerd,

thank you  for good job ,i cant find F8F-2-TEMPLATE_1.2.psd in skin floder.
I would like to made RTAF version.

(https://www.sas1946.rocks/images/imageshit/img301/6360/78191452mu0.jpg)

 
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on June 01, 2012, 10:34:54 AM
Please download template from following site :)
https://www.mediafire.com/?mn0od4p48cobnwo
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: mexchiwa on June 02, 2012, 08:23:49 PM
I did some more civil Bearcat skins if anyone is interested:  https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,19383.36.html (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,19383.36.html)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: tfs_vindy on June 06, 2012, 03:09:30 AM
Hi Gerd
Thank you so much for you template flies.

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg17/TFS_Vindy/F8F_RTAF.jpg)

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on June 29, 2012, 10:11:29 PM
Gerd, is there a work around to get your Bearcat flyable in 4.09?.............. those are the only planes I can get to work in HSFX 6.0.  It's bad enough you can't get Jet Pack 1.1 to work so you can get the Skyraiders back along with the Fury, and CAC Sabers, Migs. 

If there was a link in here somewhere for that I absolutely missed it..............

Thanks....

And I hope this is not going to be the case with UP/DBW when they come out too, I'd hate to lose the Bearcat.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on June 30, 2012, 05:55:48 AM
I  checked F8F MOD in environment of 4.09m & SAS_ModAct2.3_Beta.
I can fly F8F in this environment. :D
Please tell me your environment.
I am thinking F8F MOD is conflicted with other MOD. :(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on June 30, 2012, 08:58:45 AM
The environment is HSFX 6.0........................

The only planes I can get to work in it are tagged 4.09.  I'll try putting it in at the very bottom of the air.ini.

update:

I put the ini info at the bottom of the air.ini, the game loads, I go to QMB pick the F8F, pick loadout, but you can not see the plane in the viewer screen, you hit the button and nothing happens.
When you hit fly it loads and you get "Mission Loading Failed: Null

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on June 30, 2012, 05:34:14 PM
======Caution=====

   -for HSFX 6.0 only
   -This Pach delete TyniyTim from F8F-2 MOD.
    Because TyniyTim's HOOK is over limitation number of FSFX 6.0.

======install=====

   -Please replace this 5B034D9EFBF64D3C in folder of Gerd's_F8F-2_Beta_0_4.

   
======down load=====
   https://www.mediafire.com/?5ip1d05c6v0znye
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on June 30, 2012, 06:33:35 PM
Woooo Hoooooo.................... yer the man Gerd, works like a champ now, thank you very very much.

Cheers

Hoss
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on August 19, 2012, 02:47:25 PM
How is the cockpit coming along?..............

It's been awhile since we have seen any screens of your work?...

Got this installed in HSFX 6.0.1 and it works well, didn't use the Tiny Tims anyway, put those on the late Corsairs, and escort them with the Bearcat in 46 Invasion of Japan scenarios..

Cheers..

Hoss
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on August 20, 2012, 10:39:17 AM
Sorry This MOD project progress is no .
Because, Human resource is only me.
(Java programer,3D modeler,default skinner) :'(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Stefan SG on September 12, 2012, 09:25:11 AM
I use HSFX 6.0.14. Unfortunatelly F8F-2 (ver Beta 0.4) works with problems even with good HSFX 6.0 patch to be used.
The game freezes every time with Expert mod or without it. All is OK if F8F-2 is deleted.
I read that there was a version of this great plane for 4.09, which is more compatible with 4.11, but I cannot find it anywhere.
Pls help, because F8F-2 is one of my beloved plane in Il-2 and it would be pity to lose it in the game.
Thank You in advance.


======Caution=====

   -for HSFX 6.0 only
   -This Pach delete TyniyTim from F8F-2 MOD.
    Because TyniyTim's HOOK is over limitation number of FSFX 6.0.

======install=====

   -Please replace this 5B034D9EFBF64D3C in folder of Gerd's_F8F-2_Beta_0_4.

   
======down load=====
   https://www.mediafire.com/?5ip1d05c6v0znye
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on September 17, 2012, 06:06:12 AM
This patch is unstable behavior?
I may be not enough of testing this patch. :(
(My main MOD environment is SAS or DBW.)

I use HSFX 6.0.14. Unfortunatelly F8F-2 (ver Beta 0.4) works with problems even with good HSFX 6.0 patch to be used.
The game freezes every time with Expert mod or without it. All is OK if F8F-2 is deleted.
I read that there was a version of this great plane for 4.09, which is more compatible with 4.11, but I cannot find it anywhere.
Pls help, because F8F-2 is one of my beloved plane in Il-2 and it would be pity to lose it in the game.
Thank You in advance.


======Caution=====

   -for HSFX 6.0 only
   -This Pach delete TyniyTim from F8F-2 MOD.
    Because TyniyTim's HOOK is over limitation number of FSFX 6.0.

======install=====

   -Please replace this 5B034D9EFBF64D3C in folder of Gerd's_F8F-2_Beta_0_4.

   
======down load=====
   https://www.mediafire.com/?5ip1d05c6v0znye
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: 352nd_Hoss on September 17, 2012, 04:09:31 PM
Works like a champ in my HSFX 6.0 install, I installed it right after Gerd posted it, and all is well.  except for the unfinished cockpit...........cough...........Gerd!...............
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: henkypenky on October 16, 2012, 01:28:29 PM
Hi Gerd, thanks for this beauty. But I seems to have a propellor problem:

(http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/henkntb/1610201219-14-23.jpg)

This is in beta 04, but was also in 03. Do you have an idea what can cause this? (Sorry picture is a bit blurred  :-[)
I'm on 4.101 with Modact 3.06.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Birdman on October 16, 2012, 04:11:37 PM
That is a known bug with old version of P-47 cowling and prop mod. Just redownload it, remove old version and install current one to fix it.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on October 16, 2012, 05:00:17 PM
Thx Birdman! :D
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: henkypenky on October 17, 2012, 10:18:19 AM
Thx Birdman!  :D
(Didn't even know there was a new version  :-[)
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: too-cool on October 17, 2012, 07:09:25 PM
Thx Birdman!  :D
(Didn't even know there was a new version  :-[)
Where is this new version located?  Thanks TC
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Birdman on October 17, 2012, 11:43:10 PM
The new version of P-47 cowling and prop mod has simply replaced the old one in the same download link. The update is just not mentioned in the first post, but the download link will give the new version with F8F bug fixed. I posted a notification of the update, but it got hidden in the long thread: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,25142.msg295116.html#msg295116
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: too-cool on October 18, 2012, 07:19:19 PM
The new version of P-47 cowling and prop mod has simply replaced the old one in the same download link. The update is just not mentioned in the first post, but the download link will give the new version with F8F bug fixed. I posted a notification of the update, but it got hidden in the long thread: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,25142.msg295116.html#msg295116
I'm unable to get the F8F2 to show up in game, everything else is OK except that one bird. It's in the plane list but it's not selectable like the F8F2 Racer.  Thanks TC
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gumpy on October 23, 2012, 11:43:11 PM
The new version of P-47 cowling and prop mod has simply replaced the old one in the same download link. The update is just not mentioned in the first post, but the download link will give the new version with F8F bug fixed. I posted a notification of the update, but it got hidden in the long thread: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,25142.msg295116.html#msg295116
I'm not trying to cause a problem here Birdman but,whatever you posted over there didn't seem to work for me or contain the F8F bug fix.I still had the same problem as henkypenky even after installing your new version,the only thing that worked for me was to rename the F8F folder so it would load before the P47 cowling 3d mod.I hate to ask but,are you sure you uploaded the right files or gave the right download link? 
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Birdman on October 24, 2012, 06:13:49 AM
The new version of P-47 cowling and prop mod has simply replaced the old one in the same download link. The update is just not mentioned in the first post, but the download link will give the new version with F8F bug fixed. I posted a notification of the update, but it got hidden in the long thread: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,25142.msg295116.html#msg295116
I'm not trying to cause a problem here Birdman but,whatever you posted over there didn't seem to work for me or contain the F8F bug fix.I still had the same problem as henkypenky even after installing your new version,the only thing that worked for me was to rename the F8F folder so it would load before the P47 cowling 3d mod.I hate to ask but,are you sure you uploaded the right files or gave the right download link? 
Look into 3do/plane/Textures inside your P-47 cowling mod. The new version should only have MechaCommonP47.tga there. If you also have MechaCommon2.tga still there, then that is the conflicting file and you just haven't removed the old version. I checked that the download link gives the updated version.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gumpy on October 24, 2012, 11:39:30 AM
Cool  8) Thanks Birdman.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Fresco23 on November 28, 2012, 02:23:13 PM
in my modact 3.06 4.101, plane works great! but loadouts not appearing in game. only appearing in the customization screen, for example, i choose the droptank, it appears in the window, but in game only the clamps that hold the droptank appear, the tank itself is invisible...

fresco
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: BravoFxTrt on November 28, 2012, 03:35:12 PM
Try to reinstall the pack, and did you look at your log.lst to see if or what is wrong/missing?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Gerd on May 22, 2013, 07:37:16 AM
New version F8F is include in F2G MOD.

Please check this thread. :D
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,30271.0.html
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: nickolas on July 25, 2014, 11:59:35 AM
how do i get one
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: Griffon_301 on July 25, 2014, 02:43:06 PM
ehm, klick on the link and download the file????
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: adler908 on January 16, 2015, 06:00:17 PM
The link is dead  :(
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F
Post by: western0221 on January 16, 2015, 06:13:40 PM
The link is dead  :(

look at the post by Gerd only 3 before from you.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: dagger123456 on April 02, 2016, 02:22:53 PM
I installed the aircraft in HSFX 7.03. I got a message "Loading Mission Failed:null".  I made a minor change though.  I did not include the racer F8F in air.ini.  I just want the combat F8F.  Im sure that is not the cause of the problem.  Or is it?

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[20:12:38] [-] 'GL_EXT_paletted_texture' extension - Palettized textures (8 bit RGBA palette).
[20:12:38] [-] 'GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array' extension - Compiled Vertex arrays.
[20:12:38] [-] 'GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint' extension - Frustum clipping optimization.
[20:12:38] [x] 'GL_EXT_secondary_color' extension - Secondary Color for 3D fog & specular optimization.
[20:12:38] [x] 'GL_EXT_separate_specular_color' extension - SeparateSpecular for 3D fog & specular optimization.
[20:12:38] [x] 'GL_ARB_multitexture' extension - Multitexturing.
[20:12:38] [x] 'GL_EXT_texture_env_combine' extension - Multitextures advanced combining for special effects.
[20:12:38] [x] 'GL_NV_texture_env_combine4' extension - Multitextures advanced combining for special effects.
[20:12:38] [x] 'GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3' extension - Dot3 Bump advanced combining.
[20:12:38] [x] 'GL_NV_depth_clamp' extension - Corrects Shadows rendering
[20:12:38] [x] 'GL_NV_texture_shader' extension - NV Pixel Shaders
[20:12:38] [x] 'GL_ARB_texture_compression' extension - Saves texture memory by 400%
[20:12:38] [x] 'GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic' extension - Anisotropic texture filtering.
[20:12:38]
[20:12:38] Maximum texture size : 16384
[20:12:38] Maximum simultaneous textures :4
[20:12:38] MaxAnisotropic (1.0 = none) : 16.000000
[20:12:39] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 4096 -> 512 (delta = -3584) to Range 1..512
[20:12:39] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.1 -> 0.1 (delta = 0) to Range 0.1..16384
[20:12:39] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 0.1 -> 0.1 (delta = 0) to Range 0.1..16384
[20:12:39] INTERNAL ERROR: Str2FloatClamp() - Clamped 2 -> 0.95 (delta = -1.05) to Range 0..0.95
[20:12:39] WARNING: ****( Unexpected txr reload (tfTranspBorder): 'Effects/Materials/SmokeA.tga'
[20:12:39] WARNING: ****( Unexpected txr reload (tfTranspBorder): 'Effects/Materials/SmokeA.tga'
[20:12:47] Bomb100Lbs Was Found!!
[20:12:47] F8F-2 Option Weapon Was Not Found!!
[20:12:47] FM called 'FlightModels/F8F-2.fmd:URA' is being loaded from File: 'ura'
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[20:12:47]     No.17:RocketGunHVAR5(1)
[20:12:47] F8F2 Wepon Loading List:1x1000_4xhvarap
[20:12:47]     No.1:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.2:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.3:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.4:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.5:PylonF8F(1)
[20:12:47]     No.7:BombGun1000lbs(1)
[20:12:47]     No.14:RocketGunHVAR5AP(1)
[20:12:47]     No.15:RocketGunHVAR5AP(1)
[20:12:47]     No.16:RocketGunHVAR5AP(1)
[20:12:47]     No.17:RocketGunHVAR5AP(1)
[20:12:47] F8F2 Wepon Loading List:none
[20:12:47] F8F2 Wepon Loading List:2x100_1x150dt
[20:12:47]     No.1:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.2:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.3:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.4:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.5:PylonF8F(1)
[20:12:47]     No.6:FuelTankGun_Tank150galF8F(1)
[20:12:47]     No.8:BombGun100Lbs(1)
[20:12:47] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: weapons.BombGun100Lbs
[20:12:47] at com.maddox.rts.ObjIO.classForName(ObjIO.java:138)
[20:12:47] at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft$_WeaponSlot.<init>(Aircraft.java:2988)
[20:12:47] at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.F8F2.weaponsRegister(F8F2.java:825)
[20:12:47] at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.F8F2.<clinit>(F8F2.java:710)
[20:12:47] at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
[20:12:47] at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
[20:12:47] at com.maddox.rts.Spawn.get(Spawn.java:39)
[20:12:47] at com.maddox.rts.Spawn.get(Spawn.java:28)
[20:12:47] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.preloadAirClasses(Main.java:165)
[20:12:47] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:585)
[20:12:47] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main3D.beginApp(Main3D.java:508)
[20:12:47] at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.beginApp(MainWin3D.java:212)
[20:12:47] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:422)
[20:12:47] at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
[20:12:47] F8F2 Wepon Loading List:2x110GalNapalm_1x150dt
[20:12:47]     No.1:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.2:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.3:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.4:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.5:PylonF8F(1)
[20:12:47]     No.6:FuelTankGun_Tank150galF8F(1)
[20:12:47]     No.8:BombGun110GalNapalm(1)
[20:12:47]     No.9:BombGun110GalNapalm(1)
[20:12:47] F8F2 Wepon Loading List:2x75GalNapalm_1x150dt
[20:12:47]     No.1:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.2:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.3:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.4:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.5:PylonF8F(1)
[20:12:47]     No.6:FuelTankGun_Tank150galF8F(1)
[20:12:47]     No.8:BombGun75GalNapalm(1)
[20:12:47]     No.9:BombGun75GalNapalm(1)
[20:12:47] F8F2 Wepon Loading List:2x75Napalm_1x150dt
[20:12:47]     No.1:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.2:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.3:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.4:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.5:PylonF8F(1)
[20:12:47]     No.6:FuelTankGun_Tank150galF8F(1)
[20:12:47]     No.8:BombGun75Napalm(1)
[20:12:47]     No.9:BombGun75Napalm(1)
[20:12:47] F8F2 Wepon Loading List:2xTyniyTim_1x150dt
[20:12:47]     No.1:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.2:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.3:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.4:MGunHispanoMkIkWF(205)
[20:12:47]     No.5:PylonF8F(1)
[20:12:47]     No.6:FuelTankGun_Tank150galF8F(1)
[20:12:47]     No.18:RocketGunTinyTim(1)
[20:12:47]     No.19:RocketGunTinyTim(1)
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/A-26B.fmd:A26B_FM' is being loaded from File: 'a26b_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/A-26K.fmd:A26K_FM' is being loaded from File: 'a26k_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/AD4.fmd:AD4_FM' is being loaded from File: 'ad4_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/A1H.fmd:AD4_FM' is being loaded from File: 'ad4_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/A1J.fmd:AD4_FM' is being loaded from File: 'ad4_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/F4U-4.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/F4U-4B.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/F4U-5.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/F4U-5.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/AU-1.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/F7F-3.fmd:F7F3_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f7f3_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/F8F-2.fmd:URA' is being loaded from File: 'ura'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/La-9.fmd:LA9_FM' is being loaded from File: 'la9_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/La-9.fmd:LA9_FM' is being loaded from File: 'la9_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/La-11.fmd:LA9_FM' is being loaded from File: 'la9_fm'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/MeteorF3.fmd:Meteors' is being loaded from File: 'meteors'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/MeteorF4.fmd:Meteors' is being loaded from File: 'meteors'
[20:13:01] FM called 'FlightModels/MeteorF8.fmd:Meteors' is being loaded from File: 'meteors'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/A-26B.fmd:A26B_FM' is being loaded from File: 'a26b_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/A-26K.fmd:A26K_FM' is being loaded from File: 'a26k_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/AD4.fmd:AD4_FM' is being loaded from File: 'ad4_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/A1H.fmd:AD4_FM' is being loaded from File: 'ad4_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/A1J.fmd:AD4_FM' is being loaded from File: 'ad4_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/F4U-4.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/F4U-4B.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/F4U-5.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/F4U-5.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/AU-1.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/F7F-3.fmd:F7F3_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f7f3_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/F8F-2.fmd:URA' is being loaded from File: 'ura'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/La-9.fmd:LA9_FM' is being loaded from File: 'la9_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/La-9.fmd:LA9_FM' is being loaded from File: 'la9_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/La-11.fmd:LA9_FM' is being loaded from File: 'la9_fm'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/MeteorF3.fmd:Meteors' is being loaded from File: 'meteors'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/MeteorF4.fmd:Meteors' is being loaded from File: 'meteors'
[20:13:02] FM called 'FlightModels/MeteorF8.fmd:Meteors' is being loaded from File: 'meteors'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/A-26B.fmd:A26B_FM' is being loaded from File: 'a26b_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/A-26K.fmd:A26K_FM' is being loaded from File: 'a26k_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/AD4.fmd:AD4_FM' is being loaded from File: 'ad4_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/A1H.fmd:AD4_FM' is being loaded from File: 'ad4_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/A1J.fmd:AD4_FM' is being loaded from File: 'ad4_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/F4U-4.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/F4U-4B.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/F4U-5.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/F4U-5.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/AU-1.fmd:F4ULate_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f4ulate_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/F7F-3.fmd:F7F3_FM' is being loaded from File: 'f7f3_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/F8F-2.fmd:URA' is being loaded from File: 'ura'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/La-9.fmd:LA9_FM' is being loaded from File: 'la9_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/La-9.fmd:LA9_FM' is being loaded from File: 'la9_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/La-11.fmd:LA9_FM' is being loaded from File: 'la9_fm'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/MeteorF3.fmd:Meteors' is being loaded from File: 'meteors'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/MeteorF4.fmd:Meteors' is being loaded from File: 'meteors'
[20:13:03] FM called 'FlightModels/MeteorF8.fmd:Meteors' is being loaded from File: 'meteors'
[20:13:12] Initializing DirectSound playback device...
[20:13:12] Primary buffer created.
[20:13:12] Playback format is set : sampling rate = 44100, num channels = 2.
[20:13:12] Not enought hardware buffers (0), hardware disabled
[20:13:12] Buffer caps : Transfer rate = 0, CPU overhead = 0.
[20:13:12] Default speaker config is : 1310724.
[20:13:12] Direct sound audio device initialized successfully :
[20:13:12] DX Version : 7
[20:13:12] Hardware    - disabled [buffers : 0]
[20:13:12] Extensions  - enabled :
[20:13:12]   EAX ver. 1 [ ]  - disabled
[20:13:12]   EAX ver. 2 [ ]  - disabled
[20:13:12]   EAX ver. 3 [ ]  - disabled
[20:13:12]   I3D ver. 2 [ ]  - disabled
[20:13:12]   ZoomFX     [ ]  - disabled
[20:13:12]   MacroFX    [ ]  - disabled
[20:13:12] SIMD render [X]
[20:13:12] num channels 32
[20:13:12]
[20:13:17] null
[20:13:17] java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIAirArming.prepareWeapons(GUIAirArming.java:1270)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIAirArming._enter(GUIAirArming.java:748)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.il2.game.GameState.enterPush(GameState.java:92)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.il2.game.GameStateStack.push(GameStateStack.java:55)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.il2.game.GameStateStack.push(GameStateStack.java:44)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIQuick$WButtonArming.notify(GUIQuick.java:811)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowDialogControl._notify(GWindowDialogControl.java:51)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIButton._notify(GUIButton.java:18)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowDialogControl.mouseClick(GWindowDialogControl.java:86)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIButton.mouseClick(GUIButton.java:22)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindow._mouseButton(GWindow.java:556)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowRoot.doMouseButton(GWindowRoot.java:251)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowManager.doMouseButton(GWindowManager.java:69)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.il2.engine.GUIWindowManager.msgMouseButton(GUIWindowManager.java:126)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.rts.MsgMouse.invokeListener(MsgMouse.java:98)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.rts.Message._send(Message.java:1217)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToObject(Message.java:1191)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToArray(Message.java:1147)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendTo(Message.java:1128)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.rts.Message.trySend(Message.java:1115)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.rts.Time.loopMessages(Time.java:180)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.rts.RTSConf.loopMsgs(RTSConf.java:101)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:131)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:439)
[20:13:17] at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
[20:13:22] INTERNAL ERROR: BmpLoad_Pal8() - Bitmap 'PaintSchemes/Skins/F7F-3/F7F A 99.bmp'Bad BMP Format!
[20:13:22] Valid BMP format is only  uncompressed 8bit (palette) image
[20:13:22] With width and height equals power of 2
[20:13:22] Skin PaintSchemes/Skins/F7F-3/F7F A 99.bmp NOT loaded
[20:13:22] INTERNAL ERROR: BmpLoad_Pal8() - Bitmap 'PaintSchemes/Skins/F7F-3/F7F G 142.bmp'Bad BMP Format!
[20:13:22] Valid BMP format is only  uncompressed 8bit (palette) image
[20:13:22] With width and height equals power of 2
[20:13:22] Skin PaintSchemes/Skins/F7F-3/F7F G 142.bmp NOT loaded
[20:13:28] java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIAirArming.prepareWeapons(GUIAirArming.java:1270)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIAirArming.access$1100(GUIAirArming.java:72)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.il2.gui.GUIAirArming$DialogClient.notify(GUIAirArming.java:1674)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindow.notify(GWindow.java:144)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowComboControl.setSelected(GWindowComboControl.java:129)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowComboControl$ListArea.mouseButton(GWindowComboControl.java:235)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindow._mouseButton(GWindow.java:569)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowRoot.doMouseButton(GWindowRoot.java:251)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.gwindow.GWindowManager.doMouseButton(GWindowManager.java:69)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.il2.engine.GUIWindowManager.msgMouseButton(GUIWindowManager.java:126)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.rts.MsgMouse.invokeListener(MsgMouse.java:98)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.rts.Message._send(Message.java:1217)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToObject(Message.java:1191)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendToArray(Message.java:1147)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.rts.Message.sendTo(Message.java:1128)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.rts.Message.trySend(Message.java:1115)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.rts.Time.loopMessages(Time.java:180)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.rts.RTSConf.loopMsgs(RTSConf.java:101)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:131)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:439)
[20:13:28] at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
[20:14:26] Loading mission Quick/Okinawa/OkinawaRedScramble01.mis...
[20:14:26] Total number of airports for loaded mission: 0
[20:14:26] Detected Vertex Shaders 3.0.
[20:14:26] *** Detected Shaders 4.0. NVidia 8XXX+ series!!!
[20:14:26] Vertex texture units: 32
[20:14:26]
[20:14:31] PBuffer: suitable formats: 6
[20:14:31]
[20:14:31] Created a 256x256 RenderTexture with BPP(8, 8, 8, 8)
[20:14:31] Depth = 24, stencil = 8
[20:14:31] PBuffer: suitable formats: 6
[20:14:31]
[20:14:31] Created a 512x512 RenderTexture with BPP(8, 8, 8, 8)
[20:14:31] Depth = 24, stencil = 8
[20:14:34] Loading vertex/fragment programs: *568846328*
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [vpFogFar2Tex2D]
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [vpFog2Tex2DBlend]
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[20:14:34] *** Loading: [vpTreeTrunk]
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[20:14:34] *** Loading: [vpSimpleGL]
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpWaterSunLightFast] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpWaterSunLight] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpWaterSunLightBest] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpCoastBump] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpCoastFoam] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpCoastFoamFast] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpCoastFoamFarFogTex] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpCausticSimple] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpCaustic] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpSprites] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpObjectsL0] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpObjectsL0_2L] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpSimpleGL]
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpNearLandFog] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpFarLandFog] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpRiverCoastAA]
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [vpWaterDM_GPU] -> NV4X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [vpWaterDM_GPU8800] -> NV5X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpCoastFoam8800] -> NV5X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpCoastFoamFarFogTex8800] -> NV5X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpCoastBump8800] -> NV5X Optimized!
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[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpWaterNearDM] -> NV4X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpWaterMiddleDM] -> NV4X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpWaterFarDM] -> NV4X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpWaterDM_CPU] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpWaterDM_CPULo] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpWaterNearDM8800] -> NV5X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpWaterMiddleDM8800] -> NV5X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpWaterFarDM8800] -> NV5X Optimized!
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[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpWaterLFogDM]
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpIceWater] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpNearNoBlend] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpNearNoBlendNoise] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpNearBlend] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpNearBlendNoise] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpFarBlend] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpForestPlane] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpForestPlaneNoise] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpForestPlaneEdges] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:34] *** Loading: [fpForestPlaneEdgesNoise] -> NV3X Optimized!
[20:14:35] Load bridges
[20:14:35] Load static objects
[20:14:36] ##### House without collision (3do/Buildings/Port/Floor/live.sim)
[20:14:36] ##### House without collision (3do/Tree/Tree2.sim)
[20:14:38] FM called 'FlightModels/F8F-2.fmd:URA' is being loaded from File: 'ura'
[20:14:38] FM called 'FlightModels/US_P&W_R-2000_F8F:URA.emd' is being loaded from File: 'ura'
[20:14:38] Flight Model File FlightModels/F8F-2.fmd:URA contains no Mach Drag Parameters.
[20:14:38] FM called 'FlightModels/F8F-2.fmd:URA' is being loaded from File: 'ura'
[20:14:39] Mission error, ID_04: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException
[20:14:39] java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException
[20:14:39] at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft.weaponsLoad(Aircraft.java:3308)
[20:14:39] at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft.weaponsLoad(Aircraft.java:3288)
[20:14:39] at com.maddox.il2.objects.air.Aircraft.load(Aircraft.java:2853)
[20:14:39] at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission.loadAir(Mission.java:1525)
[20:14:39] at com.maddox.il2.ai.Wing.load(Wing.java:149)
[20:14:39] at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission.loadWings(Mission.java:1198)
[20:14:39] at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission._load(Mission.java:514)
[20:14:39] at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission.access$6(Mission.java:468)
[20:14:39] at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission$BackgroundLoader.run(Mission.java:4161)
[20:14:39] at com.maddox.rts.BackgroundTask.doRun(BackgroundTask.java:155)
[20:14:39] at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:108)
[20:14:39] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:439)
[20:14:39] at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
[20:14:43] WARNING: ****( Unexpected txr reload (tfNoCompress16Bit,tfCompressMajorAlpha): '3DO/Plane/Textures/propellor.tga'
[20:14:48] WARNING: ****( Unexpected txr reload (tfNoCompress16Bit,tfCompressMajorAlpha): '3DO/Plane/Textures/propellor.tga'
[20:14:52] null
[20:14:52] java.lang.NullPointerException
[20:14:52] at com.maddox.il2.game.order.OrdersTree.getSection(OrdersTree.java:627)
[20:14:52] at com.maddox.il2.game.order.OrdersTree.missionLoaded(OrdersTree.java:567)
[20:14:52] at com.maddox.il2.game.order.OrdersTree.missionLoaded(OrdersTree.java:531)
[20:14:52] at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission._load(Mission.java:690)
[20:14:52] at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission.access$6(Mission.java:468)
[20:14:52] at com.maddox.il2.game.Mission$BackgroundLoader.run(Mission.java:4161)
[20:14:52] at com.maddox.rts.BackgroundTask.doRun(BackgroundTask.java:155)
[20:14:52] at com.maddox.il2.game.MainWin3D.loopApp(MainWin3D.java:108)
[20:14:52] at com.maddox.il2.game.Main.exec(Main.java:439)
[20:14:52] at com.maddox.il2.game.GameWin3D.main(GameWin3D.java:235)
[02.04.2016 20:15:03] -------------- END log session -------------
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: dagger123456 on April 03, 2016, 12:39:16 AM
Fixed.  I found the solution in the last few pages
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: Ta183Huckebein on April 03, 2016, 06:08:03 PM
If anybody wants it, I could upload a standalone version of the F8F I (only very sort of) made, by taking a beta version of the F8F from a link that was still live in this thread, and overwriting the old 3d with the new 3d and sounds from the final version (with the F2G). It works pretty well (using it in 4.13), should work in all versions 4.10+, and (unlike the version with the F2G) doesn't need Engine Mod (or Jetwar, although Jetwar is more of a requirement for the F2G). I flew both versions and felt no discernible difference between them. Just in case people are interested.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: SAS~Storebror on April 04, 2016, 12:33:56 AM
Would be great if you could ask Gerd in advance whether he's fine with that.
He's still around at SAS, at least he's been online today.

Best regards - Mike
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: Ta183Huckebein on April 04, 2016, 07:09:56 AM
Will do. Good to know that he's still around.
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: Wiperton on April 15, 2016, 07:56:17 PM
Fixed.  I found the solution in the last few pages

Hello! Share, please, the recipe. How you solved this problem?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: robert31178 on April 24, 2016, 04:10:56 PM
Forgive my laziness, I didn't want to plow through 60 pages of info to look for this one.....but can I get this plane to work in 4.12.2m on either CUP WAW or VP Modpack?

~S
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: dona on April 24, 2016, 06:21:28 PM
It works fine for me in CUP both WAW and JTW
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: robert31178 on May 08, 2016, 01:08:46 PM
Hi all!!

So I got the Bearcat working in 4.12.2m running VP Modpack......apparently it was just as simple as dropping it in my mods folder and add it to my air.ini  :P Learning so much these days!!

I did have CUP WAW before, and for some reason I remember the Bearcat having a more finished up cockpit than the one in the download link in this thread. Am I making stuff up in my head again, or is there a cockpit repaint available somewhere for this?

~S
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: max_thehitman on May 08, 2016, 03:22:19 PM
Hi all!!

So I got the Bearcat working in 4.12.2m running VP Modpack......apparently it was just as simple as dropping it in my mods folder and add it to my air.ini  :P Learning so much these days!!

I did have CUP WAW before, and for some reason I remember the Bearcat having a more finished up cockpit than the one in the download link in this thread. Am I making stuff up in my head again, or is there a cockpit repaint available somewhere for this?

~S

You can always check the SAS-1946 section for cockpit repaints and EXTRA goodies  ;)
- https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?board=68.0

or read all the posts already made for this airplane here, because sometimes
people just make one post of a certain "special cockpit repaint" and puts them into the
airplane download threads.

Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: robert31178 on May 09, 2016, 05:16:56 PM
Damn....I didn't even know about the cockpit repaints forums!! Nice!!

~S

 
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: steven197106 on August 06, 2016, 07:19:42 AM
How can you change the  20mm to 50cal , I wish to have the  F8F-1 For late pacific missions, the same as the FM-2,
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: Draken on September 25, 2016, 08:21:10 PM
I tried to put this planes pack in HSFX 7.03 .
The F-8F does not work .
The F2G gets a freeze at 30 % loading in QMB .

Even with the new URA ( 45 ko ) .

The F-8F Racer and and the RareBear work .

Is there a fix for the non-working planes , please ?
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: Type83Fighter on September 27, 2016, 05:43:01 PM
Does anyone else have the issue with this aircraft rolling off the side of the carrier after landing? (Sorry if this has been asked before and answered, I have looked through this thread but couldn't find the answer.)

Besides that...like the F7F and A-1,  I can't stop flying this bird!
Title: Re: [WIP] F8F [4.10]
Post by: SAS~Storebror on September 27, 2016, 10:44:44 PM
Does anyone else have the issue with this aircraft rolling off the side of the carrier after landing?
Only with crosswinds.

Best regards - Mike