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[BravoFxTrt]

Yep, thats the right ticket, thanks Istvan.

I posted the ini entries I used for testing and the temperature is -10:

[WORLDPOS]
CAMOUFLAGE = WINTER
WATER_STATE = ICE
MONTH=11
DECLIN = 70
PRESSURE    = 745
TEMPERATURE = -10

This is ArdennesW/Heavy Snow, with the above Values.

[BravoFxTrt]

Would be nice to see a list of what Maps in IL2, Stock/Modded had frozen Lakes and Rivers per Country.

[vpmedia]

If anyone could test this in a standard DBW 1.71 that would be helpful...

[Moezilla]

I fired up standard DBW 1.71 and tested the Moscow and Finsgulf winter maps. Splash in the rivers and lakes even with the ski-equipped Gladiator.

Reverted to stock 4.10.1 and landed on same rivers and lakes just fine.

DBW 1.71 - Y U NO HAVE STRONG ICE?

[SAS~Poltava]

Curioser and curioser, said Alice.

No, still no luck, still looks like ice but behaves like water... 

Which makes a map the the Suomussalmi map very hard to use, as most of the airstrips are improvised ones on frozen lakes...

[vpmedia]

Thanks for the info Moezilla.
Now we know for sure that this error is not in DBW 1.6 but its present in 1.71.
I tried to fix this at the ini level but without any luck.
Setting negative temperatures and adjusting the water_state variable changed nothing.

[yeikov]

Hello,

The classfiles from Zuti's Friction Mod deal with the WATER_STATE varaible, could there be an issue with those? (I don't know if these were changed from 1.6 to 1.71). Some time ago I remember experimenting with them and causing this behaviour in my install too... These are the classfiles which I was playing with (I think they're present both in DBW and in SAS Engine Mod, cannot check now):

24A9459A668293DE
52FFE5E67C6273F0
D8F0937C5601DAE4
26D3836CBD459EB0
9EE807369FED1864
2A0BC4B8216AA6A4
AC200654B5EDB5DA

Sorry for the lack of detail, I hope it helps in pointing you somewhere useful

[vpmedia]

I'm pretty sure that if you remove them you'll get a ctd on map loading but maybe worth a try.

[SAS~Poltava]

Benitomuso thought that "the different behaviour should come from the Map2D class" - is this a clue as to what to do with the above?

I will most certainly have a go at removing these later today. Stay tuned... 

EDIT: But, hmmm, where do I find them?  ???

[yeikov]

No, I did not mean to deactivate those classfiles, I don't know what effect that would have (not good, for sure) 
I just meant that the WATER_STATE variable is handled in those classes (and surely Map2D too, as Benitomuso suggested), so if there was some change in them from DBW 1.6 to 1.71 (or in SAS Engine Mod), it could be worth checking these changes in their Java code.

Another possibility, as the SAS Engine Mod uses them too, is to try different versions of that mod (2.5, 2.6 and none) inside your DBW install and see if any of them makes any difference.
Sorry guys for not being able to check this myself but I don't have a DBW install in my PC right now...

[Korrigan]

Just a thought, isn't the variable temperature mod included in the engine mod ? It uses the 26D3836CBD459EB0 classfile, could it be the origin of the problem ?

[Moezilla]

The variable temp mod was included with the engine mod from v2.6 according to the changelog on the thread. The version of the AI/Engine mod in DBW 1.71 is v2.3 so the temp mod shouldn't be in play. I extracted the stock Moscow load.ini from 4.10.1 and put it into DBW 1.71 and still got no hard ice.

Hey Bravo, what base pack and mods are you rolling with in that pic of the Ardennes map? Could be a clue.