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agracier

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Re: Aragon and Chaco Maps retextured
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2012, 02:45:30 PM »

I just could make a couple of flights, but checked you made a great job with those textures. The only thing I miss are the Nationalist aerodromes of Saragosse. Sanjurjo should be placed a little outside of the map to the west from the city. This was the main one from the end of 1936 on. El Palomar was important just for the first months, but this map is specially useful for Alas Rojas, so it woud be interesting to include it, and really easy, since it was just at the Northern outskirts of the city.  ;)

maybe give me a placement on an ed_map screenshot or something ...
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Re: Aragon and Chaco Maps retextured
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2012, 03:05:02 PM »

I just photoshoped this. It's the only thing I can give you tonight, but tomorrow I can post a couple of pics with the maps of the airdromes.  :)


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Re: Aragon and Chaco Maps retextured
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2012, 03:09:00 PM »

I just photoshoped this. It's the only thing I can give you tonight, but tomorrow I can post a couple of pics with the maps of the airdromes.  :)

You know, if you or anyone else can make a .mis for the aerodrome of el Palomar, just making the airfield with more or less appropriate objects, I can then extract the objects and incorporate them into the actors ... it would save time cause I don't have much spare time anymore ... there are templates to finish and other real life things ... and making airfields has never been a strong point for me ...
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Re: Aragon and Chaco Maps retextured
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2012, 03:15:00 PM »

OK, not much free time myself these days and quite ill...I never made a new airdrome, but could give it a shot, just be patient.  :-[
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Re: Aragon and Chaco Maps retextured
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2012, 04:43:28 AM »

From my research on the Gran Chaco War, agracier, it appears that all the Chaco airfields were rather primitive. The one at Fuerte San Andro is the most representative looking. That is to say a grass strip. The kind where you'd expect to find canvas hangars, and tents. No buildings.


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Re: Aragon and Chaco Maps retextured
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2012, 06:05:24 AM »

From my research on the Gran Chaco War, agracier, it appears that all the Chaco airfields were rather primitive. The one at Fuerte San Andro is the most representative looking. That is to say a grass strip. The kind where you'd expect to find canvas hangars, and tents. No buildings.

Yup, I suppose that would have been the case ... Chaco was the very first map I posted and back then I had far less grasp of how things worked in the world of combat aviation and what would have been historically more correct or not ... I suppose I should remake the airfields ... but at the moment I really don't have the free time to do so ... maybe after the summer... unless someone else wants a go ... feel free
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Re: Aragon and Chaco Maps retextured
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2012, 07:15:58 AM »

No problem, agracier. Most players will have no idea of what the local airfields looked like anyway.
I just finished another historical Chaco mission. The current airfields do actually look alright. Concrete ones wouldn't.

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Re: Aragon and Chaco Maps retextured
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2012, 06:35:18 PM »

Finally I got some time to make the mission for Aragon map. I made not only El Palomar, but also Sanjurjo, since it's the most important from november 1936 on. They apparently had small roads around them, so I marked the perimeter of the airfields with front markers, which could help also to make the strips, I guess. I also included some planes to try landings and take offs, he, he, he.

http://www.mediafire.com/?iq7rtma00bdx1he

El Palomar was smaller, a former aeroclub airdrome that, after the construction of Sanjurjo, became only an auxiliary one.
Some pics to help, I hope. Not easy to find photos from El Palomar.










I also added a couple of AAA in SariƱena airdrome, the most important of the Republicans in that front. They had some old machine guns and a couple of captured AAA guns.






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Re: Aragon and Chaco Maps retextured
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2012, 10:11:31 PM »

Hi Juan,

Very cool research there downloading the missions now   :D

Have been looking for something interesting for this weekend.

I've always appreciated Agraciers maps very much   ;D :D Any extra work on them by others an immersion bonus   ;D :D

Take me to the 30's he he  ;D

Kirby
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Re: Aragon and Chaco Maps retextured
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2012, 09:57:14 AM »

Thanks Farang, I've seen people has been downloading the "mission" but I don't want people to get dissapointed with it. It's actually only a fake mission to give Agracier the elements to add these two new airdromes to his Aragon map.
If you want to fly over this great map anyway, you can do it, since I put a few planes, but I forgot to advise people that if you want to use the mission, you need to have Ni-52, Ford trimotor and DH-89 mods. If you're a fan of the 30s, as I am, You'll have them all for sure.
Anyway, I'm working in real missions with huge (SCW huge  :D) air combats and ground attacks. Only need some more time...this is the worst time of the year in my job.
I plan to release my first campaign (I hope not too bad) by june the 12th, to give you a clue about the thematic.  ;)
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Re: Aragon and Chaco Maps retextured
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2012, 03:26:55 PM »

Good mission and especially a good populating of the airfields ...

Here is a download link to install the new airfields as imbedded objects.

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http://www.mediafire.com/?31n9wk23vnhq92x

Unzip the file into your ag_Aragon folder. It will contain 5 files, actors.static / load.ini / load_NEW.ini / map_T.tga / map_h.tga .... if you already have these files because you installed the new retex of Aragon, then you may overwrite the existing files (but make a backup of the old ones anyway)

If you do not have the retex of this map installed and are using a version containing this map in an sfs file (as in DBW 1.6 / 1.71) then you should create a folder called 'ag_Aragon' in ... #DBW/mapmods/maps/ ... and unzip the files into that folder.

The file 'load_NEW.ini' will only work for the retex map version .... if you do not have the retex version installed, just ignore this file.

Many thanks to juanmalpuente for making these new airfields ... working together, each to their ability and free time, makes it easier to make good mods and maps and planes ...
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Re: Aragon and Chaco Maps retextured
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2012, 05:03:52 PM »

Wow that's a fast great job. I'm really happy this worked so well. Now, when I fly over this map I can say: Hey, I put those buildings there!   :P ::) ;D
Thanks a lot. Now this campaign is going to look so more accurate...
GRRREAT!
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