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[Knochenlutscher]

Hi fellow Mates, recently stumbled over Agraciers Maps. Now they are kicking, really good maps. Will try myself to get some minimum scramble missions/none to some of his maps I would like to see in my QMB working. Thank you for posting/sharing your experience, as it helps a lot for a noob like me. I'd like to post here some pictorial online Tutorials I found very easy to understand while it comes to basic mission creation (settings, flypath). They are step-by-step and with all the information required to do so. As I'm a complete noob I need very detailed pictures to each step to understand FMB. Asking all the time cause in wasting times of others. Here they go:
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http://www.combatsim.com/memb123/htm/2001/12/il2-miss/

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http://www.combatsim.com/memb123/htm/2001/12/il2-miss2/

I'm sure it'll help some of you get familiar with the basics,
Greets

[Smilinjack]

Hi Guys,
I've been attempting to create a QMBPro mission for the Gulf of Finland map. I've saved the mission as finsgulfrednone00.mis but when I try to fly it in QMBPro, I get a "data file corrupt"  error. Can someone point out to me what's generating this error?
The mission:

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[MAIN]
  MAP FinsGulf/load.ini
  TIME 12.0
  CloudType 0
  CloudHeight 1000.0
  player g0100
  army 2
  playerNum 0
[Wing]
  g0100
  r0100
  g0101
  g0102
  g0103
  r0102
  r0103
  r0101
[g0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.BF_109G4
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[g0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 158776.45 163338.15 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 179226.15 157065.46 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 180676.48 162612.99 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 162909.90 166891.47 1000.00 300.00 &0
[r0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.LA_5
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 196267.56 149958.83 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 174693.86 164969.78 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 175382.77 170481.04 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 195071.04 157863.15 1000.00 300.00 &0
[g0101]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.BF_109G4
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[g0101_Way]
  NORMFLY 158343.14 163251.61 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 178918.90 156909.62 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 180407.53 162904.94 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 163176.10 167044.56 1000.00 300.00 &0
[g0102]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.BF_109G4
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[g0102_Way]
  NORMFLY 158241.18 163170.04 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 178653.80 156828.06 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 180101.65 163271.100 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 163583.95 167187.30 1000.00 300.00 &0
[g0103]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.BF_109G4
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[g0103_Way]
  NORMFLY 158057.65 163088.47 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 178409.09 156746.49 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 179836.55 163598.27 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 163971.40 167391.23 1000.00 300.00 &0
[r0102]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.LA_5
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0102_Way]
  NORMFLY 196394.75 150200.07 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 174921.74 165127.18 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 175513.11 170102.88 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 194926.51 157704.41 1000.00 300.00 &0
[r0103]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.LA_5
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0103_Way]
  NORMFLY 196476.31 150485.57 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 175227.62 165269.93 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 175635.46 169756.22 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 194763.37 157582.06 1000.00 300.00 &0
[r0101]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.LA_5
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0101_Way]
  NORMFLY 196537.49 150771.06 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 175451.93 165433.06 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 175757.82 169470.72 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 194600.23 157500.49 1000.00 300.00 &0
[NStationary]
[Buildings]
[Bridge]
[House]

Thanks,
Smilinjack

[Le0ne]

Because of some sort of gameengine shortage you need to put all red ac as russian army none and all blue to german army none in ETO maps,  If you dont you will have data corrupt or similar. You need only to make 1 ac at every flight and useonly 4 squadrons. I belive all thow not tryed it that in passific missions you can use us army none and ija army none atleast you could in unmodded il2.
correct mapname on QMBmap.ini and start on every mission like FinsGulfRedNone00.mis/none10.mis is pos A none20 is pos.D
Look at bold type heads

Best regards

[Smilinjack]

LeOne,
Thanks for the response. I checked the use of "Russian Army None" and "German Army None" for the red and blue aircraft respectively and the mission is correct. However, all 4 flights for both Red and Blue are assigned "Squadron 1". Your reply implies that each flight should be a unique squadron (1 thru 4). Did I understand you correctly?
Thanks,
Smilinjack

[SAS~Malone]

the squadrons used in QMB missions must be Squadron 1, Flight 1-4 and must be the default squadron for Red and Blue, i.e: Russia and Germany.
i've noticed that if you use the wrong flights initially, then change it to the correct ones, the game very often will still refuse to load these missions, so it is vital that you use the correct flights initially. in the FMB box, it must be Russian Army(none) Squadron 1, Flight 1-4...and German Army(none) Squadron 1, Flight 1-4.
hope this helps 

[Le0ne]

Sorry I ment only 4 flights and just 1. squadrond as malone here said

[Smilinjack]

Thanks Guys,
I've checked the mission against several other "none" missions on different Euro maps and I still can't see any difference/problem. The mission in question does not have landing waypoints for the Red or Blue aircraft but I assume that's not the problem.
I guess the only thing to try now is use FMB to build another misssion from scratch using the guidance you've both offered and see what happens.
Stay tuned.
Smilinjack

[Smilinjack]

Malone and LeOne:
I've tried another new mission flying the Kursk map (KurskBlueNone00) and got the same "data file corrupt" error. Again, the mission flew when launched fromthe FMB. What I did notice is that when "Axis" is selected as the side in QMBPro, the background music that plays is the Japanese theme, not the German theme. This also happened when the first mission I posted here did not work (same corrupt error), the Japanese background music played when "Axis" was selected in the QMBPro GUI.
Makes me think there is some type of configuration error in QMBPro in thinking it's playing a Japanese side mission.
Here's the latest attempt (I could find nothing wrong and it played fine when launched from the FMB:

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[MAIN]
  MAP Kursk/load.ini
  TIME 12.0
  CloudType 0
  CloudHeight 1000.0
  player g0100
  army 2
  playerNum 0
[Wing]
  g0100
  g0101
  g0102
  g0103
  r0100
  r0101
  r0102
  r0103
[g0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.FW_190A4
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[g0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 42475.19 80262.89 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 77781.89 80392.93 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85064.30 76003.98 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 84934.26 63487.34 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 68353.76 67258.58 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 44685.93 76946.79 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 41349.85 80208.13 0 0 &0
[g0101]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.FW_190A4
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[g0101_Way]
  NORMFLY 41987.53 80685.53 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 77619.33 80718.04 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85324.39 76231.56 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85129.32 63194.74 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 68223.72 66933.48 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 44425.84 76914.28 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 41349.85 80208.13 0 0 &0
[g0102]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.FW_190A4
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[g0102_Way]
  NORMFLY 43125.41 81075.66 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 77586.82 81010.64 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85551.96 76556.66 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85356.90 62967.16 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 68028.66 66640.88 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 44003.20 76849.26 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 41349.85 80208.13 0 0 &0
[g0103]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.FW_190A4
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[g0103_Way]
  NORMFLY 43385.50 81433.28 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 77521.80 81400.77 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85942.09 76816.75 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85649.49 62869.63 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 82495.95 63227.25 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 67768.57 66478.33 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 43580.56 76784.24 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 41349.85 80208.13 0 0 &0
[r0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.MIG_3U
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 110375.86 88293.05 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 80726.04 77759.56 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 87845.90 65307.94 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 107612.45 74475.97 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 111968.89 81660.85 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 113509.28 86882.03 0 0 &0
[r0101]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.MIG_3U
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0101_Way]
  NORMFLY 110538.41 87935.43 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 80530.98 77336.92 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 87748.37 65015.34 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 107840.02 74345.93 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 112228.97 81530.81 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 113509.28 86882.03 0 0 &0
[r0102]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.MIG_3U
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0102_Way]
  NORMFLY 110668.46 87707.86 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 80205.87 77076.84 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 87585.81 64787.77 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 108100.11 74118.36 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 112619.10 81563.32 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 113509.28 86882.03 0 0 &0
[r0103]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.MIG_3U
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0103_Way]
  NORMFLY 110700.97 87447.77 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 80108.34 76654.20 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 87455.77 64560.19 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 108360.19 74150.87 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 113009.23 81465.79 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 113509.28 86882.03 0 0 &0
[NStationary]
[Buildings]
[Bridge]
[House]
Any ideas as to why QMB apparently thinks the mission is "Japanese"?

[Sir_Galahad]

One suggestion: don't chose any specific plane. Try leaving the first that comes up in the list in FMB. Sometime is difficult to understand for me too how some Quick Missions work faultlessly, while other not...

[SAS~Gerax]

Smilinjack: you will always need at least two QMB missions before it works OK.... in your case you need also the KurskRedNone00.mis mission to avoid the data file corrupt error. (same with your FinsGulf mission above).

Its very simply to do this for test purpose: when making the first mission (in your case for blue) save it, then set the first red planes pilot to active and save this now as Red one.

Looks like this:

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[MAIN]
  MAP Kursk/load.ini
  TIME 12.0
  CloudType 0
  CloudHeight 1000.0
  player r0100
  army 1
  playerNum 0
[Wing]
  g0100
  g0101
  g0102
  g0103
  r0100
  r0101
  r0102
  r0103
[g0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.FW_190A4
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[g0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 42475.19 80262.89 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 77781.89 80392.93 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85064.30 76003.98 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 84934.26 63487.34 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 68353.76 67258.58 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 44685.93 76946.79 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 41349.85 80208.13 0 0 &0
[g0101]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.FW_190A4
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[g0101_Way]
  NORMFLY 41987.53 80685.53 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 77619.33 80718.04 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85324.39 76231.56 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85129.32 63194.74 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 68223.72 66933.48 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 44425.84 76914.28 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 41349.85 80208.13 0 0 &0
[g0102]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.FW_190A4
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[g0102_Way]
  NORMFLY 43125.41 81075.66 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 77586.82 81010.64 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85551.96 76556.66 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85356.90 62967.16 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 68028.66 66640.88 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 44003.20 76849.26 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 41349.85 80208.13 0 0 &0
[g0103]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.FW_190A4
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[g0103_Way]
  NORMFLY 43385.50 81433.28 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 77521.80 81400.77 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85942.09 76816.75 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 85649.49 62869.63 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 82495.95 63227.25 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 67768.57 66478.33 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 43580.56 76784.24 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 41349.85 80208.13 0 0 &0
[r0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.MIG_3U
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 110375.86 88293.05 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 80726.04 77759.56 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 87845.90 65307.94 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 107612.45 74475.97 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 111968.89 81660.85 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 113509.28 86882.03 0 0 &0
[r0101]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.MIG_3U
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0101_Way]
  NORMFLY 110538.41 87935.43 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 80530.98 77336.92 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 87748.37 65015.34 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 107840.02 74345.93 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 112228.97 81530.81 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 113509.28 86882.03 0 0 &0
[r0102]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.MIG_3U
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0102_Way]
  NORMFLY 110668.46 87707.86 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 80205.87 77076.84 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 87585.81 64787.77 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 108100.11 74118.36 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 112619.10 81563.32 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 113509.28 86882.03 0 0 &0
[r0103]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.MIG_3U
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0103_Way]
  NORMFLY 110700.97 87447.77 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 80108.34 76654.20 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 87455.77 64560.19 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 108360.19 74150.87 1000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 113009.23 81465.79 300.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 113509.28 86882.03 0 0 &0
[NStationary]
[Buildings]
[Bridge]
[House]


[Sir_Galahad]

Hi Gerax!
This is the piece of information I was missing since some months now! Thanks! I will check it out for some WIP I have around that wasn't working...

[Smilinjack]

Gerax:
Thanks much for the reply and explanation. Looks like you made Sir G's day also.
Smilinjack

[SAS~Gerax]

Thanks mates! Have fun with your missions  ..

When trying I learned that it isn't mandatory to have landing points ...I didn't know this. 

[SAS~Malone]

 ...when making the first mission (in your case for blue) save it, then set the first red planes pilot to active and save this now as Red one.

Gerax, i've found that it's not even necessary to set any plane with an active pilot for QMB missions - i don't do it, and it still works fine. so, for example, i just make a mission with 4 flights red/blue, save it as RedNone00 AND BlueNone00, and that works....
just an extra 2 cents from me....

[SAS~Gerax]

Thanks, good to know! 
Seems this missions are more easier to make as I always thought,
maybe sometimes I'm thinking too much in the Austrian way.... always confrontated with restrictions everywhere in RL ...



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