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Re: P-61A&B
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2011, 10:58:24 PM »
I installed the P-61 into the dark blue world bld 1.6.  The game loaded with no problem, and the both P-61's show up on the plane list.   How ever when selected then go to the options screen, the upper window that normally displays the aircraft shows not a plane but a tire.   The tire says Dark Blue World on the top and www.sas1946 on the bottom.   If you try to fly the plane it get to about 90% then comes up with a "Mission Failed~Null".    This is a first.   I have never seen that before.    All other planes display normally.   If any one has a clue and can help I would be really grateful.
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Re: P-61A&B
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2011, 11:33:54 PM »
Okay got it working.   Seems like something got hosed up and I did the install.   After reinstalling the plane it worked fine.   :-[   Still I have never seen the tire thing before.  :o
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Re: P-61A&B
« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2011, 12:54:34 AM »
the 'tire thing' is a placeholder image, used in DBW  - you might also see it if you select the 'country' in the airplane list. ;)
if you saw that, it would likely be because of your initial error.
glad it's sorted.  8)
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Re: P-61A&B
« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2011, 01:54:01 AM »
A very good bird, many thanks to all involved, now I´m going to test it aganist the uhu.
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Re: P-61A&B
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2011, 02:31:42 AM »
WOW  ;D  incredibel

A real improuvement over our beloved frankem-P61 !

It works fine in DBW


Thanx a lot 101tfs 

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Re: P-61A&B
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2011, 03:12:55 AM »
Thanks to all involved for another great addition.  :)

I've tested the B version. And, curiously, in my 3.06 ModAct install, only the main fuselage casts a shadow. Has anyone else come across this issue?
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Re: P-61A&B
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2011, 03:23:21 AM »
Put it into UP3 RC4 last night and it runs / flys like a dream. Nice skins too. Just one tiny little question. There doesnt seem to be any texture for the radial engines- is this something we could change in the skin, or is it a modeling issue.

Either way, I can live with it- great addition to IL2.
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Re: P-61A&B
« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2011, 03:39:31 AM »
I've tested the B version. And, curiously, in my 3.06 ModAct install, only the main fuselage casts a shadow. Has anyone else come across this issue?  I have DBW 1.6 and have the same, but who worries about shadows at night?
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Re: P-61A&B
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2011, 03:45:54 AM »
Nice planes!

Many thanks to all involved!

The only minor thing it would be nice to improve - to tune AI-gunner, as he is used to fire from the turret into "empty" directions instead of into enemy planes chasing his P-61 :)
Anyway this is of secondary importance.

I enjoy the models! Thanks again!

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Re: P-61A&B
« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2011, 04:09:59 AM »
Quote from: SAS~crazyflak on October 14, 2011, 01:02:22 AM
Quote from: Col. King on October 13, 2011, 06:32:53 PM
In the two-man crew P-61s the Radar-Operator was moved from the rear position to behind the pilot.

From the Squadron Signal "in Action" series, vol. 1106 "P-61 Black Widow in action" by Larry Davis and Dave Menard, page 10:

"The 425th NFS decided to move the radar operator (RO) from the rear of the aircraft to the gunner's position behind the pilot. Even though the P-61As used by the 425th had no dorsal turrets, the gunner's seat was often retained for use by observers or for training other crew members. The 425th decided to move the RO into this vacant position in the aircraft. This would bring another pair of eyes into the cockpit wich would greatly assist the pilot during night intruder missions.
  9th Air Force brass originally vetoed the idea; however, one aircraft was modified 'on the sly' and the results proved the concept. After flight testing the modified aircraft, 9th AF officials changed their mind and authorized the conversion for all turretless P-61As.
 In the Pacific, aircraft of the 6th NFS were also field modified with four .50 caliber machine guns being mounted in the turret location, fixed to fire forward under the control of the pilot. The guns were given a standard turret cover and looked identical to a standard P-61A with a turret."

Ah! Thank you Col King! So it seems I got it right after all :D

Anyway, whoever wants 3 crew can go to the 3do/plane/P-61A hier.him and "unhidde" the 3rd pilot. But only 2 will bail out, though (FM has only 2 crew).

So P-61B has a lot more punch, but P-61A has slightly better performance because it has a little less weight ;) so both slots should be attractive.

You're welcome, Crazyflak! The P-61 is one of my top 5 favourite birds...

Now, I was thinking, it would be nice (and historically correct) to have a loadout option for the P-61A - the fixed forward turret as field modification... the first 38 P-61As had the turret, wich was later deleted from production line due of shortage. (The turrets were the same used for the B-29, wich got the preference for production).

Hope it can be done with not so much head-scrapping...
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Re: P-61A&B
« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2011, 06:03:15 AM »
Yes it was... Actually, in many cases, there were only the 4 machineguns, covered with a turret cover. Fixed, not rotating...

The rotating mechanism of the turret itself was not there.... The only weight was that of the 4 weapons, the support and the cover. In fact it weighted less than if with a standard turret.
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Re: P-61A&B
« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2011, 08:09:30 AM »
Quote from: SAS~crazyflak on October 13, 2011, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: benitomuso on October 13, 2011, 11:30:57 AM
  Is there any reason why the A version doesn't have anybody sat at the rear position? Was the guy from there go to prepare some coffee inside?

Crews were often reduced to 2, so we represent this fact on the turretless version. However I guess I should invert the positions (only pilot and rear position occupied) since I think the rear was the radar operator position...

Quote from: bobcholmes on October 13, 2011, 01:49:57 PM
I only have one question I think.  I downloaded all the files, but now could one of you fine fellers tell me how/where this should be installed in DBW?  I read the "read me" but to no avail. And before you fuss at me for being stupid, please remember, I have an excuse.  I am probably one of the oldest members here (69 last month), and I'm just not very smart.  As always, I greatly appreciate the help.  Thanks.

paste the air.ini lines in #DBW/STD/com/maddox/il2/objects/air.ini

Then put the "air_P-61 101tfs first release" folder like this #DBW/air_P-61 101tfs first release

I hope this helps :)

Just one more thank you for your help.  Your instructions worked, and when it works for me, you can congratulate yourself on your communication skills.  Something kinda funny, at least to me - I installed the aircraft, went into QMB to make sure it worked, and I selected the P-61A.  I couldn't get the danged guns to fire.  Then I discovered that that a/c didn't have any guns to fire (or any that I could find).  They did in the P-61B.  I do have two questions for you if you'll permit - are there any skins for these P-61's?  And, the instructions you gave me for installation - are they pretty much standard for DBW?  I looked and there was a B-26 that looked interesting and similar.  Would your advice work for it also?  Thanks again.
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