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[Mangas]

cant help with the problem, but nice to see that you're around

Hello, Istvan. I missed you too, man!

Hi Mangas!

Sorry, I dont know how to help. If it is in your stock game also, then it is something outside the Modact. There is nothing in the modact that could cause that by itself, only if there is an external problem, or a conflicting mod installed.

 
No additional mods are installed: I've installed 4.101 apart from my 4.09m+HSFX just now to see if my new I-16 cockpits will be 4.101 compatible... They are, but only 8-years old types 18 & 24...
Here's what happens when I try to load any other type in it:

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/2463/saserror2.jpg

Apparently, I'm strangely missing cockpits of planes that come with stock 4.09b somehow:

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5870/saserror3.jpg

but it's really weird, 'cause I swear I installed 4.09b before patching 4.10/4.101...
Here's how my fresh 4.101+SASMAct 3.04b looks like now (note the 4.09b readme pdf manual that comes with the patch):

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6375/sas304.jpg

Do you guys have the same? What did I do wrong?
 

[Mangas]

I hope you mean 409m and NOT "409b" ? You have the italian trimotor Savoia SM79, right?

Holy... Grail!  are there TWO different patches? 'Cause I seem missin' Savoia SM79 3d-model somehow:

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5989/sas3043.jpg

Welcome to re-install process, Mangas!

P.S.: so what is the proper exact version of 4.09 I need after 4.08m & prior to 4.10/4.101 for SASModAct 3.04b? 

[Mangas]

DO *NOT* use at any point the obsolete 409b1 patch.

To avoid a complete reinstall, is there any way to roll back from 4.09b to 4.08 to prepare it to be patched with proper 4.09m? Or it's possible just to copy full proper 4.09m over first beta 4.09 & the obsolete files will be overwritten automatically & new files added? Would I have any problems after it? I don't need any... 

[SAS~CirX]

DO *NOT* use at any point the obsolete 409b1 patch.

To avoid a complete reinstall, is there any way to roll back from 4.09b to 4.08 to prepare it to be patched with proper 4.09m? Or it's possible just to copy full proper 4.09m over first beta 4.09 & the obsolete files will be overwritten automatically & new files added? Would I have any problems after it? I don't need any... 

No need to. You can safely install 4.09m OVER 4.09b1m. It will replace it completely.

[Mangas]

So, if now I have a folder with clean 4.101 + SASModAct 3.04b where everything works fine except for the missing planes that came with 4.09m (full), what's my best option? Install 4.09m (full) in that folder (to get the missin' planes), then install again 4.10 + 4.101 and then SASModAct all over this again?
Or just full proper 4.09m will be enough? It will add missin' sfx's and that's it?

[SAS~CirX]

Oh I see...

you have patched your game 4.08m to 4.09b1m to 4.10 to 4.101

when you should have gone 4.08 to 4.09m to 4.10 to 4.101

Now you want to know what is the easiest way to rectify the fact that you installed the wrong 4.09 patch? is this correct?

If so, then you should extract the 4.09m patch to a safe place on your PC, then copy and paste all the contents over to your game, EXCEPT the Files.SFS

[Mangas]

Oh I see...
you have patched your game 4.08m to 4.09b1m to 4.10 to 4.101
when you should have gone 4.08 to 4.09m to 4.10 to 4.101
Now you want to know what is the easiest way to rectify the fact that you installed the wrong 4.09 patch? is this correct?

Exactly!

If so, then you should extract the 4.09m patch to a safe place on your PC, then copy and paste all the contents over to your game, EXCEPT the Files.SFS

Thanks, I will try that... (though I always thought new planes come inside new *.sfs-s files...  )

[SAS~CirX]

well, try it out and let us know how it went.

[SAS~CirX]

wait, I think I see where you misunderstand: copy all the contents of 4.09m, including the sfs files, over to your game, but do not copy over the one file that is called "files.sfs".

[el bradipo]

Hallo.I haved a similar problem http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5989/sas3043.jpg, and http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/2463/saserror2..jpg: in my old u.p. 2.1 +sas: in my folder "mods" I had a copy translated into Italian of the folder "Std" which also contained old files
air.ru.properties,plane.ru.properties.....and air.ini.....:Check, perhaps, that there are no folders double.I hope this can help you.Sorry for english

[SAS~CirX]

Hi el bradipo. I cannot open your second image, so let me just answer in general.

Unfortunately, I cannot provide support for any installation based on a 4.09 with a previous system.
We do recommend a clean , WORKING , install of 4.101. If you previously had 4.09 with UP2 or anything else, and you updated that to 4.101 (thus probably making UP2 unuseable without some fancy switching option, which most guys seem to be incapable of managing properly for any long period), then any errors you may have introduced into your upgrade will be carried over as is to the modact.

the no planes error is not a bug of the modact, it is a bug of a botched upgrade or installation. And we realy cannot help with it.

For guys on previous systems that were dedicated to 409, we can only once again say: put that aside, make a fresh start.

We support this modact in installations with HSFX5 and UP3 and DBW, on working 4.101 installs.

We do not support it in 409 switched installs with older modpacks or anything from the 409 era, suimple because, if we did, we would be spending all our time doing tech help, and no time modding.

[SAS~Storebror]

I cannot open your second image

Here it is:
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/2463/saserror2.jpg

Just shows what you've told already: That installation has passed away, let it rest in peace and start a new one.

Best regards - Mike